/lit/ - Literature

>>16049097
/Beans General/

>>16049097
In most countries, the age of consent is between 14-16

>>16049097
Because women are hottest from about 13-18 and if nature was allowed to take its course men would gravitate toward these women. Older women who had aged out of this group needed to inflate their sexual value so they agitated to restrict access to this group.

>>16049097
>make a /pol/ bait thread
>shove mentions of writing and authors into the post to pretend it's on topic

>>16049130
This as fuck. Shit thread.

>>16049097
I told you this would happen.
We legalized gays, trannies and bestiality.
This is merely the next step.

"b-but slippery slope isn't real!"

>>16049097
OP has been diddled by a relative and is trying to rationalize pedophilia. Sad!

>>16049097
Because female teenagers are extra dumb. It's not that they actually can't consent to sex but if they're allowed sexual freedom they'll make stupid choices and whore themselves out to old men or become single teen moms run off and get married in a third world country or some dumb shit like this. Women under 18 are property of their parents so if we allow female teenagers to do whatever they want sexually they will damage their value and financially burden their parents. Male teenagers are dumb too but there is less consequence to their sexual bad choices (or lack of choice) so people care less.

>>16049124
Japan is 13 IIRC, but it hardly matters since nobody in Japan has sex anyways. They are the supreme wageslaves

>>16049139

The scary thing is how in this "muh scary far right" era, both the "far right" and raninbow commies seem to be on board to go down that route now. It's not something I expected.

>>16049174
Our greatest weapon and their demise - the marriage of young brides to older men that will educate them properly
Commies will be their own undoing

>>16049097
Fuck off to another board with your shitty bait threads

>>16049139
>>16049174
The sexually frustrated fetishists and decadent wealthy are where these perversions come from.

>>16049167
Japan is what modernity being pushed to the limits looks like, perpetual material hell with no families, no children, rampant degeneracy and unending wage slavery

>>16049097
nothing wrong with it. It's just mostly american puritanism.

>>16049097
Are you going to trust millions of years of evolution or a piece of paper less than 100 years old? Puberty developed as THE way to separate sexually immature members of a species from the sexually mature ones. The development of body and pubic hair, breast tissue and first menstruation are clear markers that a girl is ready to reproduce. Puberty usually comes at 12-14 btw

>>16049280
Girls who get impregnated at that age usually get fucked up inside or get crippled or die though, because their hips are still to small to push out baby. Only modern medicine can make this more viable, but that's not evolution.

>>16049225
>>16049280
It’s more to do with the fact the children are still living with their parents, and can’t easily fend for themselves yet.
But, you pedophiles will twist your dick-heads around that even.

but they can, lol.
age of consent >= 18 is a feminist trickey from the late 1800s in the US. in the rest of the world the age of consent is above 14, usually.

>>16049220
It doesn't help that Japan has a massive population for its land mass. Most young people live in a 10x10 shack and cannot afford to even think about having a family. It's very sad to witness. It's not surprising at all that you have a lot of young men in Japan who have just checked out of dealing with the world

>>16049329
>tranny denies basic biology
Why am I not surprised?

>>16049203
>sexually frustrated fetishists
Look at this hypocrite

>>16049308
Evolution isn't real

>>16049130
10 times a day. every time applications open i get on my fucking knees and BEG to be a jannie just so i can ban these fucking retards

>>16049342
>Saudi girls the age of 14 hold down jobs and single apartments, yo. That's why they can legally marry that young. lol

>>16049329
>It’s more to do with the fact the children are still living with their parents
no, dont try to naturalize something that has its roots in christianity and feminist movements. Culture dictates adult-child relations, not just the fact that children have to live with their parents.

>>16049365
Saudi adult women don't do that either so I guess they're children forever

>>16049365
what does holding jobs and apartments has to do with being able to say "yes" or "no" to sex?

Fucking trolls. None of you can fucking read.

>>16049363
Why would they reject you? I've never even tried.

they *can* consent. that's not exactly the issue. we say they "can't" because the issue is that there is no way to know whether or not they authentically have. i can manipulate any teen you put in my bedroom in 5 seconds flat. unconsciously. no effort. they are dumb as fuck. did you know any girls in high school dating 25 year olds dudes? i sure did. the only way you can do something like that and not constantly second guess yourself is if you are a total sociopath. these guys were weird, dumb and creepy. in totally different stages of life, with absolutely no even remote point of reference to relate to each other

>>16049405
Just admit you resent the fact, that a lot of men (most of the men actually) find young girls more attractive than your sorry old ass.

>>16049418
It's the same for adult women though

>>16049418
>implying adult women arent just children in older bodies

>>16049113
>>16049147
kek

>>16049418
>stages of life
This is a meme. I don't know where it came from but it pushes the idea that only people in your exact situation in life are people you can relate to, and people in remotely different ones are just too different, because your surface social status is the only thing relevant to your life. It's nonsense enforced by the current structure of society to drive us apart. This isn't really to do with whether it's okay to fuck teen girls though (they aren't really that different intellectually from 20 somethings, just less independent, take that as you will), but just a general observation.

>>16049097
I still don’t understand how teen x teen sex has no legal consequences whatsoever. The age of consent is so high that girls are given plenty of time to be whores and ruin their future marriages. Divorce rates are high in the west for a reason.

I don’t see a teen guy is less of a criminal, or how the teen girl is less of a victim, compared to a man x teen girl interaction. They should either both be right or both be wrong. In any case, premarital sex is an evil that should be done away with.

>>16049365
Women aren't supposed to have jobs retard, read a history book.

I wish this site weren't so anti-loli. The Japanese sites can post it no problem

>>16049534
^And here we have the other extreme.
Holy fuck. Divorce doesn't happen because teens are having sex with each other.

>>16049562
>>>/b/

>>16049562
The japs are also one of the most degenerate people on the planet, really makes the noggin jogging

>>16049203
Or...you know...younger women are just hotter
Just a thought

>>16049560
They have had jobs since even before the conception of civilisation

>>16049581
They're also the most peaceful society on earth

>>16049203
Anti-loli is an effect of adultery. It’s even in the name:
>adult...ery

>>16049560
except one of the most strong and immediate indicators of a wealthy, first world society is how educated and employed their women are

>>16049596
AHAHAHAHAHHA, yeah maybe now because they've completely lost sense of their tradition and roots. They were cunning warriors in days long past

>>16049611
Yes, and now they're cunny warriors. We should be more like them.

>>16049606
that’s because capitalism demands that all members participate in the advancement of capital. It’s unnatural and ultimately detrimental to the health of the family unit.

>>16049596
>most peaceful society on earth
Try asking the Chinese about that.

>>16049622
The nukes pacified them

>>16049616
Okay, so why don't you follow their example and wage slave yourself to death 16 hours a day 365 days a year

>>16049097
For me its Kurisu

>>16049627
>not being a based NEET mooching off of mom

>>16049627
Because I don't reap the benefits that come with that drawback since I don't live in Japan

>>16049637
So you don't want to follow their example, really gets the noggin joggin

>>16049602
?

It's normal to not fetishize things when you have a normal and satisfying sex life. Again, pedophiles arise out of pent up sex starved and the decadent sociopaths that obscene wealth and power creates.
They DON'T consent, they're coerced.

>>16049097
There's reason why age of consent is 16/17/18 in many countries because it's due 300/200 years ago many girls around the 12-16 age range were dying due to childbirth age of consent was made to save women from dying from early deaths.
Age of consent should never be lowered because we need to protect younger members of society.

>>16049474
>pushes the idea that only people in your exact situation in life are people you can relate to, and people in remotely different ones are just too different
Sure, I agree, though I think that's a black/white way to see the argument. Everything in moderation: you can be in different stages but a 15 year old girl living with her parents, ignoring obvious emotional immaturity and an eagerness to leave the iron parental thumb, is likely totally broke and has no real experiences to have learned from - or skills, or anything. Dating some 25+ year old that's been through multiple long term relationships or a divorce, a man fully capable of providing all of her material and emotional desires, not knowing any better that this man just wants to fuck some tight pussy and couldn't possible give the remotest fuck or respect for her.

Like if you can't see the difference that and a college student dating some mechanic, I really don't know what to tell you man.

Teenagers are retarded. Just look at how they post here. They’re not fit to decide anything for themselves.

>>16049667
Based anon with reason.

>>16049097
They can consent. That’s what separates statutory from the real deal.

>>16049667
Age of first menstruation is like 6 years lower than it was hundred years ago. Not pedo but 16 seems reasonable to me

>>16049670
I disagree but I actually dated a 25 year old when I was 15 so I'm pretty biased.

>>16049562
The culture has changed too much. Normalfags ruined the board.

>>16049606
The term "first world" comes from the cold war, when I said "history" I meant "older than your living relatives". Is /lit/ the underage board, is that why we have this thread?

>>16049602
You got no credit for it, that was some top tier wordplay.

>>16049729
>>16049562
Pics like yours I'm fine with. "Sister who knows she's cute messing with her older brother" is aesthetic af anyway, no need for grossness.
I only really care about the full nude stuff, that's supergrossplus. Also the bikini pictures. Kids shouldn't be wearing bikinis (neither should boobless adult women).

>>16049780
Anon...

>>16049113
I like beans

>>16049654
That’s completely circular. You’re assuming it’s a fetish in the first place, of course they’re not gonna seem normal to you. Do you not understand simple logic rules? Do you deny that sexual attraction can be purely physical, specially for men? If not, do you deny that young women are in their physical prime? At the very least they’re much closer than that nannette bitch.

>>16049097
as we all know from reading the greeks, males under age 18 can consent

>>16049380
The fact that sex can lead to pregnancy, which means child rearing, which women of that age are ill equipped for in the modern era.

GOD I JUSY WANT TO FUCK A 16 YEAR OLD GIRL SO BAD RIGHT NOW GRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAHHGHGHGRRHDEGFDVJTV

>>16049780
Notice how none of the girls look younger than 10? There is a clear difference between sick pedos (attracted to prepubescent -10 year olds) and ephebophiles (attracted to pubescent 12-15 year olds).
>Kids shouldn't be wearing bikinis (neither should boobless adult women).
You're Australian, aren't you?

>>16049841
STOOOOOOOOOOOOP I CANT COOM RIGHT NOW

>>16049841
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>>16049729
>>16049562

can a 12 year old even push out a baby without tearing her hips open?

>>16049823
Arguments like these are completely unproductive and meaningless. So would it be alright if she was on birth control? Simple minded idiots.

>>16049870
no it would mean not to have sex at all

>>16049812
>Leans into microphone
It is a fetish in the first place.
Yes, Still developing children Are not in “their prime”

You can also fetishize their youth, being a coward over aging. The pedophile will discard the now adult victim and go hunting for a new toy. They’re symbols, and smaller, you can’t relate with them, you don’t want to. They’re dolls. Of course it’s a damn fetish.

It’s different when you are that young yourself. Romeo and Juliette etc.

>>16049097
Pedophiles should be hanged.

>>16049881
You’re missing the point. If the possibility of pregnancy is what makes it wrong, why would it be morally better to not have sex at all if that possibility is no longer there?

>>16049813
Check out the thread about Lolita and scroll down

>>16049910
im not the original replier but my argument is entirely spiritual and moral

>>16049167
It's 18 in every single prefecture in the country.
>>16049220
You sound like you've never been here. I see families every time I go outside.

>>16049870
No, it’s not ok because the birth control could fail. At the risk of sounding like some DARE program runner the risk is always there.
And because I’m sure someone will follow up with the question of the morality of fucking her if she’s barren or some shit, it’s still be fucked up because of the suffering she is likely to experience because of the social norms we have built up around sex. That could be seen as more subjective, so yeah sure, plow the fifteen year old who throws herself at you, I don’t care. I’m just trying to point out the reasoning for why those taboos exist.

>>16049883
>It is a fetish in the first place
God you’re thick. You can’t say it’s abnormal when you’re trying to prove it’s not normal. Did you lean in too fast and smash your head?
>Still developing
Women will finish puberty at around 14. Men at around 16. After that, growth is slow and trends toward negligible. Are you suggesting the small amount of growth that occurs after that really makes that much of a difference?
>You can also fetishize their youth
I love how you completely avoided the questions I asked. It’s like you know you’re wrong but can’t get yourself to admit it. Again and I’ll rephrase, do you not think it’s normal for a man to sometimes want sex for purely physical reasons? Is it not possible for a 16 year old to be much closer to that man’s womanly ideal than some 30 year old? Should it be a crime to fuck A cups?
> It’s different when you are that young yourself.
This is even more ridiculous, somehow. If you’re going to maintain that they’re children and really still undeveloped versions of an adult, why does the idea of the younger person liking the more developed version as much if not more, suddenly become unthinkable? What magical fairy dust do you get sprinkled on you that makes it so they can no longer consent to sleeping with you, because every other variable doesn’t significantly change.

>>16050011
>And because I’m sure someone will follow up
So you already know you’re wrong and still post it?
> I don’t care. I’m just trying to point out the reasoning for why those taboos exist
And I’m just trying to point out that type of reasoning shouldn’t be used. It’s capricious and gives the impression than an immoral act could be made moral by easily manipulated factors. Don’t say it’s wrong cause it can lead to bad consequences, the act itself is a bad consequence.

>>16050055
This. most reason people give for why taboos like this exist are just rationalizations with unfortunate implications in one way or another. It's natural but also somewhat disturbing, because it's clear that people do not really object to sexual immorality on moral terms but "something in my biological or social programming makes me feel icky when I think about this, so it means it's bad." While this is the only way masses of people are effectively controlled, it's disturbing when you realize that the only reason people oppose most blatantly immoral things is because it gives them "icky feeling".

>>16050077
I bet that sounded really smart in your head when you typed it out.

>>16050101
Intelligent responses like these are why I come here.

>>16049740
>The term "first world" comes from the cold war, when I said "history" I meant "older than your living relatives".
>the highly developed industrialized nations often considered the westernized countries of the world.
when people don't have a point they try to resort to literality and etymology

>>16049097
> Many authors wrote masterworks before the age of 18
Is no one going to point that that this isn't even remotely true?

>>16050135
It's not but there's a few cases.

>>16049097
Consent isn't real and doesn't matter

the concept of age of consent is inherently degenerate when it is seperated from reproductive consent.

>>16050138
I'm going to name some of my favorite authors and the age that they wrote their best works
> Hemingway, For Whom the Bell Tolls, 41
> Shakespeare, Macbeth, 42
> Forster, Maurice, published after the geezer died; Passage to India, 54

Literally who published their best works when they were teens? I can't think of a single one

>>16050138
perhaps tho i dont think anyone is really arguing that 18 is a perfectly black and white rigid cutoff point where the physical capability of consent becomes spontaneously, immediately realized. there's gotta be a cutoff point, maybe that's 15, or 16, or 18, but not everyone is made equal and you have to play a game of stats here

>>16050188
Mary Shelley?

>>16050202
It looks like it was published when she was 20. Maybe you could make the argument that she spent her teens writing it

The "teenagers are dumb" argument doesn't hold because most teenagers who are retarded as teenagers will be retarded their whole lives, and this is most women anyway (and most people). They just get dunked on because they're to dependent on mommy and daddy to complain about it and because people like to tell themselves they got smarter with time because it makes them feel better about their shitty life choices.

>>16049097
They can if you don’t live in burgerland
But if you want to fuck a girl who isn’t physically developed (ie prepubescent or barely pubescent) you should be killed

>>16049097
Kurisu is 18 though

>>16050172
This is a more general principle of life, by the way, anons. It takes a great deal of time and effort to get good at something. Men who produce work of lasting value generally do so after decades of ceaseless practice, and generally above the age of 40.

Even Richard Dawkins wrote the Selfish Gene when he was in his early 30s, and that book was considered a young man's book. The only young author with a """"magnum opus"""" is that Eragon kid, and his mom was the C-suite executive of a publishing house

>>16050249
Also Elliot Rogers

>>16050437
kek

But even the supreme gentleman was 23

>>16050249
The Eragon kid was the guy I had in mind when I was making the thread. I was imagining that other people also wrote books at his age as well, but I couldn't think of any others off the top of my head.
The books weren't great though, but certainly were good to read as they came out when I was a kid

>>16050879
>I was imagining that other people also wrote books at his age as well, but I couldn't think of any others off the top of my head.

>>16050879
>but certainly were good to read as they came out when I was a kid

>>16050879
>The Eragon kid was the guy I had in mind when I was making the thread.

>>16050879
>The books weren't great though

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>>16051131
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