/lit/ - Literature

Crazy how he was outlived by Pynchon. i mean, who would've thought

DFW wasn't a crappy writer though
inb4 contrarians

>>16060512
I think the pendulum is swinging and /lit/'s opinion of DFW is changing (again) from meme to serious appreciation. Five years ago people loved it.

He was too good for this world

IJ is the Great American Novel for Gen X

>>16060527
It's mostly culture wars reaction to the fact that he got cancelled. Which makes American social rejects want to like him.

Anyway, Pale King is 60% of the best 21st century novel.

>>16060473
I can't see McCarthy being born elsewhere. Consider how interconnected The Road is with American geography and culture.

>>16060710
You're 100% right. People didn't take him seriously and now he's been me tood the edgy 4chan hipster love him

He was a talented writer though, tedious but good.

>>16061098
Yeah, that seemed an odd claim. Not just because of his settings, but because the degraded biblical language in Blood Meridian, or the particular sort of curtness in the Border Trilogy are so American. His more realist stuff is like that cosmopolitan world-roaming Hemingway dragged back into the homeland.

>>16060473
Good Old Neon is my favorite by him
Haven't read IJ since its too long

>>16060473
>accusers others of being crappy thinkers
>starts a DFW thread
ngmi

>>16060473
>I can see Cormac McCarthy or Pynchon being born elsewhere
No way.

>>16062755
>McDonalds is my favourite restaurant
>never tried the burgers but the fries are pretty good

>>16060473
>I can see Cormac McCarthy or Pynchon being born elsewhere,
How?

>>16063256
>mcdonalds fries are good

>>16061686
4chan loved him to an absurd degree long before he ever got cancelled. The fact is that he spoke very directly to over-entertained young middle class American white dudes filled with dread and ennui, i.e. the single largest demographic of this site. Personally I love his books, but I don't think they'd really strike me the way they do if I wasn't exactly the kind of person they were written for.

>>16062755
You are seriously missing out. Read it soon. You will want to quit a few hundred pages in but when it ends you will wish there was another thousand pages and have an irrational desire to immediately reread it.

>>16063256
>McDonalds is my favourite restaurant
Are you retarded?

>>16066281
more like steak is my favorite food but i only eat one bite a sitting. a whole steak takes too long to get through

>>16060473
why did he wear it

>>16060473
DFW was too neurotic. If he had lived until now maybe he'd be at Pynchon's level.

>>16065045
BK > McD.

>>16066919
It would be extremely painful

>>16065045
>How?
Not that anon but Charles "Cormac" McCarthy could be and LARPs as being Irish, and Pynchon could be and LARPs as being a non-physical concept of a writer.

>>16060477
lmao
at this point he will outlive me

>>16060701
what about beyond zero?

>>16068757
But McCarthy's books aren't really like the Irish literary tradition, and tendentiously declaring yourself to be Irish, Italian, German etc. is one of the most American things you can do.

As for Pinecone, his public persona is having no persona, but we know for a fact that V has a fair bit to do with his 50's hipster social circle.

>>16068893
I agree that McCarthy's books are about as American-grounded as it gets, I was just joking about his pen name. Pynchon though, I think if I read GR without knowing anything, I would assume a euro wrote it

Isn’t Breakfast of Champions more a precursor to Burgerpunk than IJ?

>>16068903
It's certainly a precursor to reddit.

>>16068903
No, Vonnegut is terrible.

>>16068938
Can you do a comparison?

>>16068970
Sorry, I don't make an effort to talk to people with tripcodes. Just a matter of principle.

>>16063256
kek'd

>>16068989
You don’t read much at all do you.

the /lit/izen cycle
>notice this butterfly tripcode everywhere
>brutally insult it to prove your bona fides
>eventually realize it's a good poster actually
>cringe at seeing others go through 1-3

>>16068938
Doesn't make him uninfluential or not burgerpunk. The whole break into fourth-wall breaking sincerity thing at the end of that book is a fairly clear precursor to DFW too,

>>16069007
The moth has retarded opinions about everything, it's some kind of faggy anarchist-but-everybody-has-to-be-nice tranny.
Even if I agreed with all of a hypothetically non-retarded tripfag's opinions, though, the very fact that they use a trip means they should still be bullied off the site as they do not understand the purpose of anonymity and desperately want people to view them as a celebrity. Every tripfag should leave 4chan, 4channel, the internet, and the mortal plane at their closest opportunity.

>>16069095
she's not a tranner, my dude

>>16069100
I do not care.

>>16069095
It's okay fren. Many people come here to work out some kind of anger. No one will hold a grudge don't worry. I'm pulling for you bro

>>16069110
well, let's talk about something else, then.
any plans for the weekend?

>>16060473
whats with a certain group of people and headbands, i swear...

>>16069227
It was hip in the 90s for white people to wear bandanas in public.

>>16069238
Axel Rose because he sweat a lot on stage
Tennis players because playing made them sweat
DFW because he’d sweat from the coke

>>16069204
I'm going to try making goulash tomorrow and finish À Rebours while it cooks, then start either Independent People or Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter.

>>16069278
Aunt Julia is bad, as most post Conversación en La Catedral is. I couldn't say anything about Independent People, though.

>>16069375
That's disappointing. I've never read any Llosa before, I bought it the other day along with Death in the Andes. I guess Independent People is the better call.

>>16066314
Anon didn't say DFW is his favorite writer, he said Good Old Neon is the best work by DFW that he's read.