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Hi /lit/

I'm finishing up a paper over Bob Dylan and figured we should talk about him. Like him, don't like him, never listened to him or his lyrics, it doesn't matter. Open Dylan discussion as a literary figure.

>> No.1658155

I guess I'll start...

Dylan is one of the best musicians and songwriters of the twentieth century, in my opinion.

>> No.1658159
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1658159

in real life im alpha i just come on here to pretend and feel how lucky i am by pretending i am loser

i love blonde on blonde

>> No.1658162

BUT I KNOW WHAT HE REALLY LOVES YOU FOR
ITS YOUR BRAND NEW LEOPARD SKIN PILLBOX HAT!!!!!

>> No.1658160

He said Joseph Campbell influenced him, but I don't really see it. Dylan is actually pretty surreal.

>> No.1658164

it's alright, ma is one of my favorites.
Like a Rolling Stone is a beautifully written piece. Gates of Eden is friggin' awesome.

>> No.1658167

>>1658159

That's neat. I never really considered Blonde on Blonde to be one of Dylan's greater works up until recently. Especially this paper has made me reconsider all that I thought of him. Blonde on Blonde may not have been as revolutionary as Highway 61 Revisited, but it still carried on with the Dylan bravado and technique. After listening to it again and again I've come to love it.

>> No.1658169
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1658169

Dylan vs Cohen

Who's the true poet?

>> No.1658170

It Aint Me, Babe is definitely my favourite atm.

>> No.1658172
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1658172

I rank him with the rest of his generation as the puppets of the perverse bourgeois appropriating the means of expression of the lower classes and thus simultaneously sneering contemptibly in their faces

>> No.1658175

>>1658167
i think it sounds mor jammy and inspired than highway 61. like on 61 i think theres moments where he wants it to sound 'deep' and that comes through rather than it just naturally being that way. im not sure if its different musicians either but the guitars and trumpets and basically everything on blonde on blonde sounds so energeticc

>>1658172
that would be the beatles.

>> No.1658177

>>1658172
and there has to be a tripfag to post shit in the thread... oh,/lit...

>> No.1658180

>>1658172

I don't think Dylan was a puppet though. He definitely laughed at people for liking his music. I was talking to one of my professor's about him and he remarked that he loved Dylan's music, but he always imagined Dylan hiding in a bush laughing at him and saying, "Ha, I made you feel this way and like my music"

>> No.1658186

>>1658164

It's alright Ma is fantastic, his performance of the song and its arrangement is stellar.

>> No.1658202

>>1658172

Wow. Shitty sentence is shitty.

>> No.1658206

Desolation Row, Tombstone Blues, Tangled up in Blue and Like a Rolling Stone are masterpieces.

>> No.1658208

great fucking guy

>> No.1658209

>>1658202
he's saying bob dylan wasnt a genuine protest-singer and just a thing to calm people down like the beatles right?

>> No.1658212

What do you guys think of a song like Hurricane? Very explicit I think when compared to a lot of Dylan's work.

>> No.1658234

>>1658209

How exactly did The Beatles calm things down? They blew everything up when they emerged.

>> No.1658241

>>1658234
d&e could probably answer you better.

>> No.1658250

>>1658241

What? But you made the comment, surely you have some reasoning behind your words?

>> No.1658254

>>1658241
Don't pass your ill-thought-out warblings onto me buddy I said nothing about "protest-singers" or the beatles or any such waffle

>> No.1658264
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1658264

When I was little, my parents had this book, which I read all the time. It's one of the main reasons I've written over 1000 poems, few of them being remarkable.

>> No.1658271

There are people who think he ever had a chance at winning the Nobel prize lol

>> No.1658273

>>1658149
shitty overrated dated garbage that only babyboomers, hipsters, and wannabe intellectuals care about

>> No.1658279
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>>1658254
no youre the one thats spamming things you havent thought about. that guy earlier said your sentence doesnt seem like you have a grasp on the terminology and you've just ignored him. speak like a normal person, youre not writing an essay.

>>1658250
ok beatlesmania is the opposite of the original protesters. they only got into it once it was trendy. they were quite manufactured and generally took most of their ideas from psychedelic bands. the lyrics were parent approved unlike the rolling stones, etc.

check
http://www.scaruffi.com/vol1/beatles.html
for accurate popular music history. he's written 3 awesome music books too. but just generally a true intellectual. cognitive scientist, poet etc. like maybe d&e could have been as intelligent as this guy if he didnt spend all his free time on 4chan and leeching booze from parties he wasnt invited too, and also doing excess fitness activities for vanity.

>> No.1658281

>>1658273
he's a great singer and god-tier lyricist, dont troll. check out blonde on blonde.

>> No.1658284

Typical.

Dylan
Cohen
Waits

Listen to more literal based music with importance.
Please.

>> No.1658291

>>1658284
Captain Beefheart too. though its not very stereotypical 'poet'.

>> No.1658298

Jim Morrison was a better lyricist.

>> No.1658299

>>1658298
Mother i want to fuck you.

>> No.1658303

>>1658298
better singer not lyricist.

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>>1658298
>And it stoned me to my soul. Stoned me just like Jelly Roll. And it stoned me. And it stoned me to my soul.
>stoned me just like jelly roll

>> No.1658311

>>1658303
seconded. But have you listened to Dylan actually sing? When he's not doing his whole Woody Guthrie thing, he has a beautiful voice. Let me try and dig up a video for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3fZwz4XsQo

Weird isn't it? It sounds nothing like him.

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>>1658305
<^ d&e sort of looks like a young van morrison

>> No.1658318

She's got everything she needs
She's an artist, she don't look back
She's got everything she needs
She's an artist, she don't look back
She can take the dark out of nighttime
And paint the daytime black.

You will start out standing
Proud to steal her anything she sees
You will start out standing
Proud to steal her anything she sees
But you will wind up peeking through her keyhole
Down upon your knees.

She never stumbles
She's got no place to fall
She never stumbles
She's got no place to fall
She's nobody's child
The Law can't touch her at all.

She wears an Egyptian ring
That sparkles before she speaks
She wears an Egyptian ring
That sparkles before she speaks
She's a hypnotist collector
You are a walking antique.

Bow down to her on Sunday
Salute her when her birthday comes
Bow down to her on Sunday
Salute her when her birthday comes
For Halloween buy her a trumpet
And for Christmas, give her a big drum.
---

How can you not dig the poetry of that?

>> No.1658320

Bod Dylan. What is there to say? I can only imagine what he signified in his day. He might as well be jesus now, washed up and irrelevant. Too romantic for me.

>> No.1658322

>>1658303

I think Dylan's a much better PERFORMER, though. He's got a much more versatile voice/persona, and the way he phrases his lyrics while singing is frequently genius.

>> No.1658323

>>1658311
Also, see all of Nashville Skyline.

>> No.1658347

None of these people know anything of Dylan. God /lit/ sucks. Why do I come here? Bob Dylan is not a real person, you dumbshits.

>> No.1658361

>>1658318
>But you will wind up peeking through her keyhole
>Down upon your knees.
lol

>> No.1658370

>>1658347

Uh, we know his real name is Robert Zimmerman. Why don't you stop being such a childishly superior ass-hat?

>> No.1658371

Love him, love everything about him. Own all of his electric 60s albums on vinyl, play Highway 61 Revisited at least once a day. The only lyricist that can write anywhere near as good as him is Lou Reed and he sucks at everything else unlike Bob.

>> No.1658375

>>1658370
He probably calls Mark Twain Samuel Clemens like a huge turd

>> No.1658381

>>1658172
this is patented nonsense. please leave.

>> No.1658391

I find it strange that so many people hold Dylan in such high regard. His music does nothing for me. I generally don't like music that came out between the 40s and the late 70s, though, so whatever.

>> No.1658413

>>1658391
Because all that music that you like that came after the 70s? Bob Dylan made that possible so soon.

>> No.1658416

>>1658413
So that means I should listen to his music even though I don't enjoy it?

>> No.1658418

>>1658416
No, just give him a little respect and really try to see why people hold him in such high regard.

>> No.1658422

>>1658381
I don't see a 'why' anywhere in that statement

>> No.1658434

zZZzzz

>> No.1658435

>>1658422
Why&Why.e

>> No.1658436

>>1658422
because there is no such thing as a perverse bourgeois. they are too dull to be be perverse.

>> No.1658448

>>1658303
Both actually

>> No.1658453
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>>1658436
That would explain why a lot of Folk music is boring and shitty

>> No.1658490

>>1658453
that was so dadaist!
proletarian means of expression in libya > bob.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xDq6eixXWE