/lit/ - Literature

>>16595228
Jews

Woke culture is a psuedo-religious movement based on puritan social assumptions and protestant individuality. Since our society became materialistic, the built in soteriological function of traditional religion is no longer viable. Due to this, people have to find salvation via other methods, primarily social activism. "Woke" is short for "awakened" which is a term generally used to indicate enlightenment, and you must bear this in mind. It is an abortion of materialism, Marxism, CRT, and Protestantism.
It has the majority of the hallmarks of a cult, and practices struggle sessions regularly while fostering an "us" vs "them" mentality.
If you really want to get into the origin of it, research the 60s. Jonestown is unironically what "wokeism" will turn into, as Jonestown practiced everything the modern "woke" crowd practices and preaches.
Social media exacerbates it, as does capitalist marketing. Your product sells better if you associate it with moral righteousness.
>postmodern
I know what you mean, but you don't understand this term. Please stop using it, it's not accurate.

Ultimately, Christianity. More specifically, it's a fusion of Puritanism and Quakerism called the Burning Man Consensus (you can tent surf and get free food, booze, sex, and drugs, but if you break any of the 900,000,000 minute laws of decorum you'll be gangstalked for being an "asshole"). This has absolutely nothing to do with Jews unless you go full Pagang and say that St. Paul was the dirty handrubbing kike behind [thing you don't like].

What Jews DID do, however, was play a role in stripping off the checks, balances, and constraints on the intellectual currents that lead to the Burning Man Consensus. This is where PoMo comes in, in that ultimately PoMo plays no real role, and introduces nothing new. Rather, it just states a series of facts, and American Protestantism reacts to them. It could state an entirely different series of facts, and a totally different reaction would result. This is not to say that Jews are blameless, they're presenting the specific series of facts that they are purely for their own benefit. Rather, they're reacting to a certain thing in a certain way that benefits them and fucks us (and literally everyone else on the planet except them) over.

>>16595228
churchill WAS a racist though. a racist against germans. based neonazis defacing his monument

>>16595228
The Coddling of the American Mind - Jonathan Haidt

Cynical Theories - James Lindsay

Spiral dynamics (stage green, but actually stage red)

Umm sweaty, it's just shedding light on why the dead white men of history weren't the shining paragons of virtue you think they are. Churchill was a racist colonialist that let millions of Bengalis starve in 1937, using the war as an excuse as to why they couldn't send rations.
The Founding Fathers owned slaves and set up the constitution so that only white rich males could vote, a far cry from the champions of democracy that the history books (written by white male historians) make them out to be.

>>16595314
>Churchill was a racist colonialist that let millions of Bengalis starve in 1937, using the war as an excuse as to why they couldn't send rations.

How exactly is this a bad thing?

people see that racism exists and they speak out against it.

>>16595228
Try "Unassailable Ideas: How Unwritten Rules and Social Media Shape Discourse in American Higher Education." Was just released

Deracinated confused puritan americans and americanized europeans living in the dreamlike wandering afterglow of authentic political participation for the masses (especially working class organization) and its replacement with "don't you like when Handsome Pete reassures you with his Firm Handshake" + "Don't you feel bad for the.. what's left.. the queers? What? We already did the queers? Shit, um.. Don't you feel bad for the.. trannies?" technocrat metapolitics which only exists to to keep the wheels turning long enough for processes that were already underway 200 years ago to finish grinding the average human being down into a perfectly docile, perfectly predictable, perfectly shapeable and controllable amoeba

It just so happens that one of the few lingering instincts the masses have, left over from a time when they did things, is the moral messianism and busybody totalitarianism of anglo politics, and this is the most convenient string to pull on at this point if you want to distract people.

Bread and circuses is dangerous, it makes people expect bread and circuses from you. Hardcore nationalism is also dangerous, because inevitably the people's desire for jingoism outstrips the government's desire to foment it, and suddenly the government is reacting to public opinion, in fear of it, rather than tapping it as a resource, in control of it. Even bald-faced technocratic totalitarianism like most iron curtain states is bad because it makes people hate the apparatus.

The best possible strategy is to mislead the masses into thinking that they are the protagonists of history, that they're the hero in an ongoing revolution, but make the revolution totally meaningless, aim it at intermediate leftover powers between state and mass, like the church or the family, that actually indirectly protect the masses by resisting direct state management of them. Then fill the phony revolution with hedonism (especially the chosen forms of hedonism of late modernity, narcissism and celebrity), and make sure it's carried out using the institutions of the managerial state, like you have to have a degree from Harvard and know the right rich New York hipsters to be a believable Marxist personality. Since nothing can happen, you are safe to whip the plebs up into as much of a distracted frenzy as you want. They will only ever terrorize your enemies for you, and any collateral damage will be among the other plebs. You get all the benefits of the other types of oppression but none of the drawbacks of making yourself the enemy of the oppressed.

The plebs will even burn down their own homes and stores so you can move in and purchase what's left of private property and economic autonomy.

>>16595313
The Madness of Crowds: Gender, Race and Identity - Douglas Murray

>>16595325
Racism is detrimental to a harmonious, equal and fair society.

>>16595336
lol no
Shut the fuck up fag
Racism is simply the moral justification for the behavior the participants exhibit. If you live in the western world, I can virtually guarantee you've never seen real, tangible, racism.
Systemic racism isn't real. Interpersonal racism is exceedingly rare unless it's against white people which is in vogue. Language isn't violence.

>>16595366
describe for me a society that is both equal and fair in your mind

>>16595366
>harmonious, equal and fair society
The fantasy of underachieving women and weak willed men.

>>16595366
so are niggers, spics, and kikes.

>>16595228
It's all parenting. Either lack of it, too much of it or the child is just rebellious. Indoctrination by the state and those who are supposed to teach.
The origin is the elite ruling class who paint everyone else as the problem and use "woke culture" as a weapon to turn public opinion against them.

I don't care about people in India starving at all. there are too many of them today and there too many of them during WW2. who fucking cares

>>16595228
The end goal of slave morality. Its current iteration has it's intellectual foundation and origin in poststructuralism, it was then twisted in a game of chinese whispers by universiry students virtue signaling their half baked ideas of it on social media before then becoming adopted by capitalist and mass media marketing. The post war left have always ended up tools of capital.

>>16595402
your mom

>>16595381
Then you don't get to complain about our current society, which is chaotic, unequal and unfair. That means that you're fine with the riots going on, with companies and banks scamming the masses out of their money and getting away with it because they are above the law.

>>16595402
You would quickly change your tune if you were the one starving and your government left you out to dry.

>>16595417
>duuur you can't complain about anything if you're not a libtard

>>16595434
i would be a poo-in-loo so i would welcome death as a sweet release from my cursed existence.

>>16595436
You can but it's pretty hypocritical that you sneer at the thought of building an equal and fair society but turn around and whine when you feel you are not treated fairly.

>>16595434
If I was a fucking pig I would still eat me are you gunna stop eating pig?

>>16595417
>recognizing a utopia as a fantasy means I can not speak out against real injustice
Go back to your undergraduate classes and come talk to me when you've participated in the actual work force for a minimum of 5 years.
The things you listed are either pop-culture or problems as old as time. You bring nothing new to the table and obviously have little to no real world experience. My family's names are on the founding union documents in my town, and I have family that participated in the labor protests at the turn of the 20th century. Your online activism and basic bitch public outbursts (which are backed by global corporations) are as laughable as your goals and work history.

>>16595434

>>16595467
You're values are completly different to mine you imbecile

>>16595467
What do you think fair is though? The basic distinction I see here is that one side thinks it means equal opportunity and the other thinks it means equal outcomes

>>16595472
I'm a practicing Muslim, so no.

>>16595228
>219. Leftism is totalitarian force. Wherever leftism is in a position of power it tends to invade every private corner and force every thought into a leftist mold. In part this is because of the quasi-religious character of leftism: Everything contrary to leftist beliefs represents Sin. More importantly, leftism is a totalitarian force because of the leftists’ drive for power. The leftist seeks to satisfy his need for power through identification with a social movement, and he tries to go through the power process by helping to pursue and attain the goals of the movement
>>16595276
(You)

>>16595237
/thread

>>16595228
It's product of the cold war and CIA.
Has anyone here read 'Who Paid The Piper? The CIA and the Cultural Cold War' by Francis Stoner Saunders? It chronicles how the CIA, via the Congress for Cultural Freedom, lavishly funded academics, writers, art exhibitions, and journals(including dozens of socialist journals).This program began in 1951 and continued throughout the Cold War. It intentionally nurtured and fed a 'left' that was fixated on personal identity, rejected class struggle, stopped focusing on economic issues and moved the 'left's' focus to questions of racial and gender issues exclusively. In addition, it was also a left that was relentlessly hostile to the Soviet Union, Cuba, or anything that actually threatened capitalism and imperialism. Leftism in the West(and to a lesser degree in other places) stopped being a working class project aimed at actually taking power and became an individualist, petit bourgeois hobby aimed at fulfilling 'personal freedom' within capitalist consumer society.

The weak, dysfunctional, self sabotaging and ineffectual left we are cursed with in the West today did not just 'happen' it was deliberately created by the ruling class

>>16595501
>USSR
>threatened imperialism
replaced one imperialism with another*

>>16595501
>The weak, dysfunctional, self sabotaging and ineffectual left we are cursed with in the West today did not just 'happen' it was deliberately created by the ruling class
Well, yeah, that's why the ruling class created Leftism in the first place. That's literally the reason the French Revolution happened: so we could be where we are today. You don't seriously think there's any real rift between Marxism and Liberalism, do you? Marxism was nothing more than a cudgel to be used against Illiberal societies that refused to Liberalize by incentive.

>>16595487
What about cows?

>>16595523
Yeah I would eat you, but what's that got to do with the starving Bengalis?

>>16595228
It's simply cope for the fact that formal racial equality under the law did not produce equal outcomes. You have to understand that every educated person genuinely thought that having de jure equality and instituting some form of social democracy would basically solve racial inequality. People thought racial equality would come about within their lifetimes. All wokeness flows out of the fact that the most optimistic dreams of the '60s that many internalized simply did not happen.

>>16595517
Lenin defined imperialism as the following:
>1) The concentration of production and capital developed to such a high stage that it created monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life.
>2) The merging of bank capital with industrial capital, and the creation, on the basis of this “finance capital,” of a “financial oligarchy.”
>3) The export of capital, which has become extremely important, as distinguished from the export of commodities.
>4) The formation of international capitalist monopolies which share the world among themselves.
>5) The territorial division of the whole world among the greatest capitalist powers is completed
Does the Soviet Union fit into this definition? I don't think so.

>>16595519
Are you illiterate or just a retarded /pol/ crossbrowser? Yes marxism is absolutely different from liberalism.

>>16595530
I'm not bengali so why should I give a fuck about them?

>>16595278
I would say that Post-Modernism played the role you think the Jews did (not that I think their blameless either) in removing checks and balances and constraints.

>>16595547
Yeah I don't really care how Lenin defined the word, they took over half of Europe and funded people all over the globe.

>>16595557
It's the responsibility of the government to ensure its citizens don't starve. In this case the British Empire was in charge with Churchill at the helm at the time, it was his responsibility that his subjects didn't starve.

>>16595228
Offshoot of Calvinism.

The logical conclusion of Protestantism, really.

>>16595313
I am reading Cynical Theories at the moment. Absolutely insanity to see its growth from beginning to now from a birds eye view which is often obscured by its proponents itself. It's pretty blackpilling

>>16595566
>imperialism is when a country does stuff
Okay retard.

>>16595567
Why should the British care about a conquered inferior people? They should have exploited them further instead of just industralizing their nation and pulling out so they can swallow them up 100 years down the track

>>16595237
fpbp. All these posts trying to rationalize and cope when this one word answers everything

>>16595580
Then you admit the British Empire and Churchill were evil and racist?

>>16595586
Truly a deus ex machina for retards.

>>16595577
>a policy of extending a country's power and influence through diplomacy or military force.
Pretty sure conquering half a continent and funding states all over the world counts. Lenin can redefine the word to mean 'only le capitalists' all he wants, nobody has to care. Also even by his own definition the USSR elite controlled a shitload of capital, it's not like the fucking workers were in charge.

>>16595237
this. woke culture is literally culture of critique

>>16595434
I would have joined the INA and killed some Anglos

>>16595589
And how is that a bad thing?

>>16595594
They were so evil that most people want to go back, really makes you think.

>>16595557
you have to be over 18 to post here.

>>16595607
lmao gommies are deluded

>>16595228
I don't think there's an exact start. I'd say woke talk as we know it today began with McIntosh's Invisible Knapsack, which began the trend of analyzing society through white/male/cis/hetero/whatever privileges and representation. Slightly earlier were Crenshaw and some others using critical theory to understand race, leading to Crenshaw creating intersectionality. These two events might be considered the birth of identity politics as a rigid framework for understanding society, which are what allowed for wokeness to be born at some undefinable date.
Anyway, privilege and intersectional discourse slowly gained ground from within academia. From there it bled out into things close to academia: media, environmentalism, and other such things. Things like diversity and inclusion consultants became a thing, then grew into roles Chief Diversity Officer. Nobody wanted to criticize this because 1) you would be called racist, a social death sentence in most of America and 2) these positions originally held no real power.
I think wokeness really exploded during the Ferguson unrest and Gamergate. Companies started boosting it in order to avoid being seen as reactionary, although you were still allowed to criticize it. Trump's election in 2016 was the final push it needed to become a force that is above criticism, as nobody wanted to seem like they were defending the forces that let him into the white house.

>>16595607
I didn't say they were evil, I said they were obviously imperialist.

>>16595606
>how is being evil a bad thing?
If you're going to be this dense and obtuse then there's no point in arguing here anymore.

>>16595547
>exact same end goals
>exact same methods
>exact same desires
>caters to the exact same people
>disagrees on aesthetics
>disagrees on an incredibly minor technical detail of how to achieve the shared goal
Looks pretty similar to me.

>>16595613
No it's the anti-gommies that are deluded. Like literally repeating capitalist propaganda.

>>16595615
The liberal definition of imperialism would ascribe the era of Lenin and Stalin as imperialist and Khrushchov's era as a period of "detante," as a period of relative peace, because liberalism defends the bourgeoisie insofar as it represents their interests. But the Marxist definition views that the period of Khrushchov marked a shift from the socialist mode of production to the capitalist mode of production and the development of the Soviet Union as an imperialist power.

>>16595639
Imperialism is not fucking based around capitalism, god I hate how Marxists have their own definition of every single word. If you are invading and conquering other countries you're imperialist.

>>16595577
>it’s not imperialism because I made my own definition
You commies really are despicable.

>>16595625
Being evil is based read Nietzsche

>>16595668
He says you should discard Christian morality. In none of his books does he condone being an evil piece of shit.

>>16595645
Okay liberal, it liberated the working classes and fought off the nazis.

>>16595652
Yes because the liberal definition is when a country does stuff. Who isn't imperialist with that retarded definition?

>>16595228
Atheistized christianity mixed with bastard critical theory

>>16595547
>Lenin
oh no no no. look at him and laugh

>>16595577
>invade Iran with anglos to take control of oil
>invade the baltic states for being in the way of harbors that will increase your economic influence
>suppress the cultures and autonomy if ethnic minorities, invade them when they tried to declare independence, sometimes deport then
>not imperialism
Okay fag

>>16595705
Are you really and truly incapable of grasping the concept of 'conquering other countries'? Not even going to get into the ridiculous claim that the Soviets liberated their working class.

>>16595592
It's true though. If the entire history of race conflict was just black people saying white people are bad, nothing would have happened. It's only possible for this to happen when white people see other white people telling them that white people are bad.

Who can pass for white? Jews
Who invented the Marxist schools responsible for critical theory? Jews
Who owns the platforms that field these theories? Jews
Who will inevitably get off scott-free by retreating to another country? Rich Jews who hate the Torah
Who will get screwed by the inevitable backlash? Poor orthodox Jews stuck in the West.

>>16595705
>liberated the working classes
and what about all of the massive strikes and uprisings in those “liberated” countries. It doesn’t seem to me the workers were very happy being ruled by puppet governments to a foreign nation.

People lashing out at a system that they know is fucking horrible (neo liberal capitalism) but instead of aiming at those who control capital and create currency they are aiming at "rich old white men."

>>16595740
>>16595741
>>16595757
Read this book retards.

>>16595682
Evil = social Darwinism

>>16595228
oh look, it's this post again

>>16595849
Yes. It's a thoroughly discredited ideology that was used by the ruling classes to justify their evil actions

>>16595228
"Wokeness" is an intensification of Civil Rights in America that seeks to explain how equality of outcomes between blacks and nonblacks has not yet manifested as expected following the Civil Rights Movement. Since equality is a given, logically, society must be systematically anti-black, thus the redefinition from "harboring hatred of someone based on race" to "an inequality of outcomes between black and nonblack". Thus the statements that speaking English correctly is racist, showing up on time is racist, standardized testing is racist, following laws is racist, and so on - under the new definition, this is quite literally true.

>>16595668
Nietzsche was nuts.

>>16595228
>CHURCHILL Was a Roust
Uh, ok.

>>16595303
uhh based?

>>16595237
RACISM
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energy

>>16595237
Based. I'm tired of every 2-bit retard performing every possible form of mental gymnastics in the book just so that they can avoid the fact that it's the people behind the wheel who are steering the car off the road.

>>16595228
Protestantism.

Read Tom Holland's Dominion (which I didn't) or watch this interview (which I did):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a27Z1qrguaw

>>16595228
Churchill is cringe not for this, but for supporting Stalin

>>16595276
if you can diagnose the problem why can't you cure it

>>16596215
I'm not really concerned with who, I want to know how. How did wokeness evolve? Where are its origins in the media and academia? Saying jews is just a lazy race baiting answer to me.

Does anyone actually support Churchill though. He manufactured WW2.

>>16595228
It's the frankfurt school, intersectionality and critical theory. "Everything is inheritly bad and made to benefit [out group], so it must be destroyed and rebuilt with [in group] at the top, so that we may achieve (((equality)))

>>16596267
I can echo the sentiment of those who said that it's basically secularized american protestantism gone haywire after most of its adherents lost their faith. When you secularize christianity, all that remain in the rubble are the universalistic, humanistic aspects ("just be kind and accepting"). Combine that with the equally gutted form of mid-19th century materialism (that was all but secularized christianity to begin with, but with a focus on the economical and the material) becoming en vogue for various reasons in the US and you have laid the groundwork for your modern woke liberal. Really, it's all toothless, rootless humanism, a cloudy mix of gutted marxism and christianity.

>>16596280
seriously underestimating how manufactured by intelligence agencies and jews it is even though this operates as a sort of ideological chassis for the beast

>>16595366
"Diversity" is detrimental to a an equal, fair and harmonious society. Biological differences between races (phenotypes if you're a fucking queer that thinks race isn't real) leads to inequality and the only way to correct it is to hinder and help people according to race untill a perfect balance is reached, a thing which would just cause anger as the retarded races realize they're not suited to their jobs and their stations and the non retarded realize they've been gimped because an entitled white bitch that it was sad that niggers were poor and stupid

>>16596304
What do you think you're arguing against dude? Equality is a motte for the anti-white bailey.

>>16596267
Frankfurt school, its a bunch of jews who thought up intersectionality and critical theory and other intellectual weapons of mass retardation

>>16596310
According to who I replied to racism is an issue, while I support than racism is not only natural, it's beneficial and justified by biological and culturual differences between races