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The book has a point. In order for America to remain the rightful hegemonic force in the world and to stop the spread of chinese communism, we must seriously consider tripling our population similarly as we did in the 19th century. China is closing the gap between our gdps fast while only having the gdp per capita of Mexico. And you know, that heartland region in the middle has a LOT of space.

>> No.16714241

>>16714231
It's too late and Chinese communism isn't spreading nor will it although the Chinese will and are attempting to control trade.

>> No.16714251

>>16714231
The average Chinese citizen has an average IQ of 104-106. I don't think tripling the population of the US would help.

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>>16714241
forgot to mention that gdp is a load of bollocks too, thanks

>> No.16714257

>>16714241
>chinese
>communism

>> No.16714265

>>16714251
IQ is also altogether a load of crap so don't worry about that shit, it's basically irrelevant in geopolitics and rightly so. What you can do is have an educated populace, that's probably what you want to get at but not IQ.

>> No.16714267

>>16714231
>in order to control the world you have to give up control of your country
That's retarded

>> No.16714276

>>16714265
>iq isn't real
>every population has exactly the same intelligence because...because I say so
you live in a meme reality anon

>> No.16714285

>>16714231
Takeaway from this thread:
>GDP is bollocks
>IQ is crap
>Chinese isn’t communist (even though they are)
>OP is retarded
Very insightful

>> No.16714294

>>16714276
I didn't say it isn't real you absolute muppet.

>> No.16714299

>>16714285
Better call the Retard Wrangler, eh, what do you think of that?

>> No.16714320

Would all the spics even split on voting or would dems just win by default?

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>>16714320
One party state of free cookies until the Chinese cut us off from their endless supply of shoes and doodads. In turn well start pawning off our natural resources to their point that we will basically be a colony.

America being the nexus of global trade is owed to the legacy value of the USD. The Chinese subsidizing American investment and having their people work for free was a master stroke, as we sent literally every technical secret over for free. I dont understand why Americans think that the Chinese will make all of their shit for free forever. Do people think the chinks are just a bunch of androids?

>> No.16714445

>>16714231
Artificially inseminate brown women with genetically edited whites for money, go to nuclear war with China and Africa.
That's the solution no-one wants to talk about.

>> No.16714453

>>16714265
Strange that educational attainments and geopolitical relevance are almost perfectly correlated with IQ, the only exception being Asian countries doing less well than you'd predict, which you can explain adequately (imo) by throwing psychometrics of personality into the mix.
The Chinese think that way, you don't, they'll eat you.

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>>16714231
Nobody knows how many wetbacks sneaked into your country. Hell, you might even be at the billion mark already.

>> No.16714483

>>16714231
A country of one billion debased consumers is no better than a country of three hundred million of them. Matty's premise is built off the unexamined arrogance of American lifestyle exceptionalism; he draws attention away from this by adding foreign tinges to his proposal e.g. comparing a 1B USA to France in terms of density. I don't want to live in a place with either of these qualities.

>> No.16714495

>>16714257
yes, weaboo

>> No.16714497

Fund baby bonds with a fat tax.

>> No.16714503

>>16714407
>Do people think the chinks are just a bunch of androids?
yes

>> No.16714511

>>16714251
That's not even an entire standard deviation away from the US average.

>> No.16714518

>>16714251
>75% of there population used to be farmers 30 years ago
>avg 105 IQ
fucking retard

>> No.16714530

>>16714453
>educational attainments
I'm not referring to these which can be just about anything you like, rather actual education as in not strictly pre-vocational degrees. I'm fairly certain that your claim
>educational attainments and geopolitical relevance are almost perfectly correlated with IQ
will have no proof, no source, and is sufficiently nebulous to be easily unfalsifiable.
I'm not taking the bait on psychometric personality but I will have to look up what that actually means.

>> No.16714534

>>16714518
How long did it take Europe to completely industrialize in comparison to East Asia?

>> No.16714538

do you think it's fair to say that Marx is the leading reason for atheism being so wide-spread in the west? clearly the chinks are not communists in any economical sense, but maybe they should still be considered as such in a kind of a cultural sense? I really don't know

>> No.16714545

>>16714299
underrated post

>> No.16714546

>>16714511
It doesn't matter. Meaningful changes can still occur at the population level from just a change in a couple of IQ points.

>> No.16714550

>>16714538
Atheism in the west was prior to Marx.

>> No.16714569

>>16714550
I know a guy who's a falun gong practitioner, and they're pretty set on the idea that it is because china is communist that they are being persecuted. this leads them to read up about Marx and so on. I can't really see that china is communist though.

>> No.16714573

>>16714530
>rather actual education as in not strictly pre-vocational degrees.
Well I don't know about tests of that and how it correlates with IQ, so I limit my claim to educational attainment.
I dislike the education industry, I'm not shilling for it, but it's on you to prove educational attainments (as in, actual standardized tests, not just diplomas) don't correlate with general education. Sounds intuitive that they would. Maybe you could make an argument "general knowledge" is better for a society as a whole than "specialized knowledge" and academia only tests the second? Maybe there are tests of general knowledge that have been done, you should look at that if you want your opinion to have some weight.
>I'm fairly certain that your claim will have no proof, no source, and is sufficiently nebulous to be easily unfalsifiable.
My claim could be translated to this : IQ and the Wealth of Nations, by Lynn, is generally true and only contains few mistakes. I don't really want to have a debate again, but know that it's an old one and that although common opinion and media is biased against the IQ side, it's defended itself well.
I'd make one caveat though ; it seems that putting a ton of money in your army allows you to be stronger than your wealth should suggest, like Russia's done.
>I'm not taking the bait on psychometric personality but I will have to look up what that actually means
You can read about this topic here : https://www.unz.com/akarlin/national-wealth-and-iq/#comment-921684
I agree with the, as I sad, psychometric personality thesis, but he provides others.

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>>16714530
People with higher IQ were more likely to graduate with a bachelors degree. I'd like to also mention that IQ is well correlated with work performance, and if running a company is similar to running a country, why shouldn't we expect countries with higher average IQ to be more successful?

>> No.16714588

For whose benefit would one billion Americans be?

>> No.16714592

only three kinds of people care about IQ: one is teenagers, then there are nazi larpers, and then there are people who have over 120 IQ but absolutely nothing going for them

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>>16714586
Here it is

>> No.16714615

>>16714592
Cope with a capital C

>> No.16714622

>>16714231
>we must seriously consider tripling our population
You lardasses already can't govern yourselves as it is, even with the whole federation crutch, with thrice the population you'd start eating each other.

>> No.16714626

>The conflict of the 21st century will be American cultural power vs Chinese productive power
>To tackle this we need one billion Americans

So cultural imperialism?

>> No.16714628

>>16714573
I'll work on the argument regarding education, you're right it needs to be clearly delineated. Thanks for the post.
>>16714586
>why shouldn't we expect countries with higher average IQ to be more successful?
If you have smart people running the country and they aren't tyrants, sure. My main gripe about IQ is that it is irrelevant when all things are considered.

>> No.16714638

>>16714597
It proves that high IQ is positively correlated with attainment of higher education.

>> No.16714642

>>16714615
*tips*

>> No.16714651

>>16714538
>what was the Enlightenment
Read moar.

>> No.16714718

>>16714569
>I can't really see that china is communist though.
Any signficant company in China can only operate because the state wishes so, and if the state asks them anything they can obey or shut down.
Your property and you other rights are subordinated to your obedience to the state, see the whole social credit thing for the overt example.
Information is strictly controlled, so are movements (both phisical and of assets), so is trade.
All of those are extremely bold anti-capitalist position, I get that amerifats have weird ideas about what communism is but it should be clear that the chinks are red.

>> No.16714734

>>16714651
He should study atheism in light of the French Revolutions

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>>16714642

>> No.16714875

>>16714534
hard to deny there aren't differences in behaviour and intelligence which helped east asia industrial more quickly than other areas
but that's a fucking stupid comparison: of course having to discover, invent and perfect everything will take hundreds of years, and copying/adapting it can be done almost instantly

>> No.16715016

>China
>not believing in communism while having a communist party unilaterally making all political decisions
Fucking dumbasses. They just learned from the USSR that you can't just jump into a planned economy. They plan to become the next super power before spreading socialism. This is literally in their plans. This is like not believing Hitler would enact his plans in mein kampf once he took power.

>> No.16715027

>>16714875
You think the Europeans just GAVE their technological knowledge to the East Asians?

>> No.16715053

>>16715016
China has no plan for spreading their ideology all over the world, the Chinese culture is highly regressive n exclusive.

>> No.16715063

>>16715053
>the Chinese culture is highly regressive n exclusive.

Doing things properly.

>> No.16715066

>>16714251
China has higher IQ average but America has higher IQ variation.

>> No.16715084

>>16714231
China is going to face a population issue within the next 50 or so years. The average age of a citizen in China is 40. There is sizable imbalance of men to women in the country. I wouldn't be surprised if the country dips below a billion by 2050. Especially with Chinese women starting to become western in their thinking of having kids (not wanting them or fewer than their parents generation)

>> No.16715100

>>16714231
>yes we need 1 billion Americans
>yes we need to stop global warming
>lol wtf are you talking about, I'm not contradicting myself

>> No.16715115

>>16714231
yes why not significantly lower the quality of life of the lower 99% even more.
I hope before my life is over I'm working 16 hours a day just to afford a couple bowls of gruel so my masters are so far removed from me that they have no fear whatsoever that their pedophile islands get discovered. Hell they won't even need an island, they could rape my children in front of me, what could I do

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>>16715084
The world is going to face a population problem eventually. Then we'll really see how systems shake out when the amount of people begin contracting.

>> No.16715181

I know this is a bait thread like the "Open Borders" book posted here but why are these retards so obsessed with GDP? They're not even businessmen...
>Yglesias's father Rafael Yglesias is a screenwriter and novelist and he has a brother named Nicolas. His paternal grandparents were novelists Jose Yglesias and Helen Yglesias (née Bassine). His paternal grandfather was of Spanish-Cuban background, and his three other grandparents were of Eastern European Jewish descent.
Every fucking time.

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>>16714231
china is undergoing a demographic winter and will implode under the weight of an aging population within THIS century. go look at the fertility rates of certain provinces in china. they're worse than anything you've seen in the west. look at south korea. literally every country in the world has declining levels of fertility. even muslim countries like iran are now under replacement levels. the west and east asia were simply the first over the hump. everyone else is following behind them. tripling populations to consoom more, in order to raise gdp is the most brainlet take of all time. countries would be better served by undertaking policy measures like increasing retirement age and augmenting technology like robots to ease the process of a receding population. just importing joggers to consoom more and raise numbers is such a moronic take, it makes me wonder if that guy is an ecoonomist.

>> No.16715440

>>16715181
>his three other grandparents were of Eastern European Jewish descent.

well never mind me, that explains everything.

>> No.16715441

>>16715428
> it makes me wonder if that guy is an ecoonomist.
Look at the post above yours. Anyway the only thing that will save the world from complete demographic and ecological collapse is socialism. One of the main reasons people aren't having kids is they can't afford them.

>> No.16715481

>>16715120
We are on the cusp of this problem. Fossil fuels are right at peak production and we are fucked once they start depleting

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>>16715441
>Anyway the only thing that will save the world from complete demographic and ecological collapse is socialism.

no

>One of the main reasons people aren't having kids is they can't afford them.

the main reason people in a country stop having kids over time is due to increasing prosperity, which influences lifestyle choices like having children. this is a sociological phenomenon that has been seen in literally every country that has gone through industrialization. are you seriously suggesting that dust eating joggers in Mali can afford to have 6 kids, but bitches in Sweden can't? think before you post.

>> No.16715504

>>16715481
Eh, peak oil has been worried about for decades -- and I don't doubt it becoming an issue soon; but population decline is the problem people are severely overlooking. It's basically a sacrosanct issue with most people.

>> No.16715507

>>16715441
>Some of the most left leaning countries on earth are some of the worst demographically

I dunno if going further left is going to solve this bruh.

>> No.16715510

>>16715498
>prosperity causes drops in child rearing
To be fair, if decreasing prosperity would raise them up again, socialism is definitely the answer.

>> No.16715526

>>16715498
>are you seriously suggesting that dust eating joggers in Mali can afford to have 6 kids, but bitches in Sweden can't?
You answered this in the first part of your post. Anyway keep profit, you fucking crypto-Jew.

>> No.16715536

>>16715504
We nearly hit it in 2009 when prices spiked up to $150 a barrel. We were bailed out by heavy investment that lead to a Shale oil boom. Those shale wells are in decline and the rig count is as low as its ever been. We can't expect the same thing to happen because oil prices are $40 a barrel and no one is going to invest in new technology.
Yes people have been going on about it for a while, but that doesn't mean it is bullshit. There is a finite amount of oil and no replacement for it in sight

>> No.16715539

>>16715526
>You answered this in the first part of your post. Anyway keep profit, you fucking crypto-Jew.

back to /pol/ you unthinking moron.

>> No.16715552

>>16715539
I'm thinking just fine. The answer to history is socialism + religion. It's literally that simple.

>> No.16715557

>>16715536
I didn't mean to come off as saying peak oil is BS, just that I'm more wary to take it seriously since I've heard about it for a while. Again: I don't discount it as an issue and it will be a rude awakening. Resource consumption/depletion is always a forefront issue.

I've just been more about looking at the population issue than peak oil. They're intertwined, of course.

>> No.16715564

>>16715504
>but population decline is the problem people are severely overlooking.

i blame malthusian alarmism for over a century, in spite of demographic data that assured organic declines.

>> No.16715566

>>16715557
>I've just been more about looking at the population issue than peak oil. They're intertwined, of course
No problem and to me these are same issues. All population is dependent on energy at the end of the day.

>> No.16715576

>>16714251
you must not know any asians if you think they are more intelligent than whites. there is a reason china has to steal everything we make, they are missing something that whites have. even plato said they are a subservient race, it’s probably why they look like insects?

>> No.16715578

>>16715557
as an aside, one of my cousins is in bio-chem with one of the global oils and peak oil is not an issue for now although it was. Bit of a rabbit hole there but it's nothing to worry about.

>> No.16715583

we need 500 million welfare shitskins

>> No.16715586

>>16715576
>stealing US tech
Sounds pretty based to me

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>>16715552
what are you even talking about man? they have socialism in Sweden. even the most generous, pro-natal policies like monthly child allowances, free childcare, paternal leave etc only realized marginal gains in fertility rates. they are still well below replacement. sure, religion affects fertility positively. but that's only in certain cases, with highly orthodox groups who emphasize pro-natalism (amish, mormons, orthodox jews, mennonites etc) and eschew many aspects of modernity. theocratic states like iran are in decline, as is the entire middle east, which is all very religious.

im trying to tell you that population decline is universal. its a sort of self-correction after the unnatural industrial boom. all states experience it. looking at it as if it were a problem meant to be corrected is what leads to brainlet takes like the OP's book.

>> No.16715637

>>16715576
unironically, all the chinese students at my small university were above average in both intelligence and work ethic

>> No.16715641

>>16715617
>Socialism
>Sweden
Uhh no they have cucked social democracy. Capitalism with healthcare and free education.

>> No.16715655

>>16714231
Open Borders for Isreal

>> No.16715662

>>16715617
I'm offended in the opposite direction the other faggot who replied is. Nordic countries actually have pretty high free market indices as rated by right wing think tanks. They're not socialist. All their success is definitely thanks to capitalism. The welfare statism is just them being generous with their capitalist generated wealth. Everything you said aside from the incorrect labeling is on point though.

>> No.16715669

>>16715641
You appear to be an irredeemable retard who has zero understanding of anything even after I broke it down for you Barney style. Address the point you stupid fuck. It's the easiest country in the word to have kids due to generous state gibs, why aren't they doing it? Why are poor joggers in mali shitting out 6 niglets on avg? Gee, could where they are on the industrial timescale have anything to do with it? Fucking hell what an utter moron. Never reproduce.

>> No.16715678

>>16715578
Care to explain further? I have been following it for a while and we seem fucked. Shale is in the shitter and no one is going to invest in anything new.

>> No.16715709

>>16714231
>And you know, that heartland region in the middle has a LOT of space
t. flyover nigger
cities are where they are for geographic, material reasons
you are not smarter than settlers who risked their own lives based on the sites they chose

>> No.16715717

>>16714251
tell me you don't actually

>> No.16715722

Yeah it also has a lot of fucking nothing these retards are immediately gunning for cities if this shit ever happend. Theyre stupid but not that stupid

>> No.16715723

>>16714231
>6 Gorillion Jews. The case for a Jewier world.

>> No.16715751

>>16714495
do words even have any meaning anymore

>> No.16715776

>>16714407
>Do people think the chinks are just a bunch of androids?
no, insectoids

>> No.16715793

>>16715776
If we do end in war with China we will have to do something about people with your mentality if we are ever to keep the peace afterwards. Chinese people are people, not insects not sub-human, and anyone who disagrees with me is as useful as a dog that kills his masters livestock.

>> No.16715797

>>16714231
>chinese communism

You mean fascism

>> No.16715833

>>16715793
hahah yes we have to "deal with" our own people because insectoids wont be able to control themselves if random lowly western peasants are bruising their egos with banter. unironically kys yourself

>> No.16715850

>>16714252
Yeah but the bollocks gdp magic affects the US way more, with its huperinflated tech stocks and such

>> No.16715856

>>16715833
I'm sorry but you are not an appropriate level of intelligence to browse this board.

*calls security*

>> No.16715863

>>16715856
>tells other people that they are not smart enough for this board
>thinks there is actually security on 4channel

>> No.16715866

>>16714628
IQ is not irrelevant. It predicts national GDP (yes, reverse causality accounted for) very well.

>> No.16715868

>>16715863
midwits need to gtfo.

This board is reserved for high intelligence individuals and based retards.

>> No.16715871

>>16715866
>irrelevant thing predicts irrelevant thing
hmm...

>> No.16715873

>>16715868
Ok, dont let the door hit you on the way out.

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>>16715871
>why yes, I do not care for GDP as a measure of wellbeing, how could you tell?

>> No.16715883

>>16715877
My wife does love NASCAR

>> No.16715909

What a coincidence. A crypto Jew, 3 of 4 Jewish grandparents but spigger last name, wants to flood the US with 666 million retard midgets from south of the border in order to “fight” the Chinksects. Sounds legit.

I’m completely surprised at what this “fellow American” thinks is good for the country or at the complete lack of concern of the environmental load of 666 million dirty burrito eaters with 85IQ points and early onset diabetes or in his entirely fabricated fear of the Chinksect horde. In no way would his assessment be due to a pathological and biologically driven psychopathy towards and envy of the only group to tolerate behavior and ideas like his.

>> No.16715915

>>16715909
Please take down this VERY anti Semitic post

>> No.16715937

>>16715909
I like Mexicans

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>>16715027
Of course they did. You think every empire/nation/tribe invents all their own technology from scratch?

>> No.16715973

>>16715937
I do too but they are too dumb and cowardly to run a country hence they ran away from theirs. What are you going to do with 666 million gardeners and leaf blowers. Unless the have high European admixture they produce nothing and only consume. There are something like 40 million Mexicans in the US already and no one in this thread can name a single thing anyone of them has produced or created it invented. The only successful ones look Spanish and there are not very many of them. Even if you could somehow make this work you would have a Latin American racial/caste hierarchy. Why do you want to create that here?

>> No.16716032

>>16715973
I have no love for beaners, but that's just ignorant. The States spent 100 years toppling socialist republics in Latin America and funding the development of powerful drug cartels. At this point Mexico's shitty government and army couldn't do shit about it even if they wanted to. Burgers made Latin America one big ghetto, and now they have the nerve to complain about it. Fucking retards.

>> No.16716067

>>16716032
I love how you implicitly agree with me by assuming Latinos have no agency of their own (only bad evil white peoples do, PLEASE LET ME LIVE IN YOUR COUNTRY). I agree that the CIA should not have been fucking with other countries like that but those other countries had help from the Russians. This is normal geopolitical politics. Every country has to deal with this shit. It’s not right but this is the Globalist world we live in.You are acting like if the US hadn’t intervened South and Central America would be prosperous and successful lol

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>>16716067
>You are acting like if the US hadn’t intervened South and Central America would be prosperous and successful lol

not him, but why are you just assuming they wouldn't have? pre-columbian civs built great things and sustained massive populations quite ably, without the advantage the old world had of exchanging groundbreaking ideas between the east and west. its not like they were joggers that never built anything. to deny that they possess the capacity to do well absent intervention is simply unfair.

>> No.16716126

>>16716067
Fair enough, idk how socialist south america would have turned out, or if the possibility is even worth entertaining, but regardless, enabling the creation of a massive black market based there destabilized the region for a century and will continue to do so for decades to come at the very least. Of course they have no agency. Did NA's indigenous population have any agency? The whole of both continents have remained de facto American territory ever since the Monroe Doctrine. Racists assume everything's genetic cause they don't understand the difference between correlation and causation.

>> No.16716136

>>16716067
Every single country in which the US intervened in at least since WW II has been made an objectively worse place to live in by the intervention.

>> No.16716167

>>16714231
nooooo not the heckin gross domestic productino that goes mostly to the most wealthy people in the country

>> No.16716175

>>16716111
You argument is the same one Hitler made regarding the Germanic people before the Jews came and Jewed everything to Globalist hell.

Every group of people traveled and expanded. When two groups met they usually fought. Some Native American groups built large cities, some lived in dirt, some genocided their neighbors. There is re it’s if all of this. Some either the Aztecs or Mayans or one of their earlier groups built huge cities then all died when they exhausted the forests and environmentally destroyed themselves. No one seems to care about all this and treat it like it’s totally normal, which it was, but as soon as one of the groups interacting was from Europe it’s bad, white peoples bad, everything was utopia before evil white man ruined everything. This makes no sense. You can’t reconcile this lack of integrity with history. It only makes sense if white liberals impose a religion of self hatred on everyone around them which includes the implicate assumption that white people were smart enough to overcome these obstacles when the tables where turned but brown peoples are not.

>> No.16716178

>>16716136
except israel

>> No.16716182

>>16716178
When did the US intervention occur in Israel?

>> No.16716188

>>16716126
A lot of it is genetics. This has been known since the mid 2000s. This article is old, but more recent studies indicate the same.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB115040765329081636

>> No.16716198

I have to charge my phone

>> No.16716199

>>16716182
when they created israel

>> No.16716228

>>16716136
No. Many of those countries were in the midst of power struggles which made them ripe for outside exploitation. There is no telling how any of those countries would have faired otherwise. Central and South America had many home grown potential dictators without anyone else involvement or help. I agree with you that US involvement was wrong. And it wasn’t just foreign government involvement. Business was brutal in some areas like the original Banana Republic

>> No.16716263

>>16714251
Yes those statistics are representative of all Chinese and not just the ones who cone to the West. To make up for the difference we will import 2 Africans and/or Mexicans with 80-90 IQ but who’s total IQ ((80+90)/2)x2 would be higher. Basically with less IQ on average we can make up for the devastating difference by doubling the number of low IQ retard consumers. Our average IQ may sink to Congo levels but if we add up everyone’s IQ together we will come out on top. My Rabbi showed me the math in the Talmud, it’s genius!

>> No.16716540

>>16714231
>geopolitics
Who cares? Let it burn.

>> No.16716543

>>16714538
>do you think it's fair to say that Marx is the leading reason for atheism being so wide-spread in the west?
No retard.

>> No.16717061

>>16714231
The problem is that younger generations, and specifically non-whites, are more left wing and more anti-capitalist than ever. they're literally destroying America from the inside

A jew like him should have realised that before encouraging feminism and anti-natalism among white generations that has killed off our fertility rates

>> No.16717109

>>16715066
Yeah, that is kinda what happens when you compare 2 billion Han Chinese against an assortment of vestigial whites along with a large minority of slightly diluted bantu.

>> No.16717564

Whats the case for a billion people in Israel?

>> No.16717579

>>16716543
Don't call him a retard it's a fair question.

>> No.16717581

>>16717061
People claim to be anti-capitalist, but they're just really anti-cronyism -- even if they don't realize it. However, there is a thinking that change -- especially something like demographic change -- is inherently-good, i.e. if a Progressive changes things, it MUST turn out well. It's become, essentially, a religion of change that can't be reverted else it's blasphemy.

>> No.16717591

>>16714231
>one billion "2% irish ancestry"-Americans
Terrifying, they'd dye the entire ocean green

>> No.16717606

>>16717581
I strongly agree with this, but would add that a lot of leftists that claim to be anti capitalist indulge in it quite a bit. I understand that we all live in a capitalist system so there is no need to post that comic. My point is that there is no need to see every Marvel movie or buy the latest iPhone. If you are against this system, you shouldn't be obsessing about the most commercial aspects of it

>> No.16717880

Won't cartels just follow all the beaners to here anyway? Gives them a ripe opportunity to better set up shop here since their easily exploited population is moving en masse

>> No.16717885

>>16717581
Yeah I think far leftoids really underestimate how many true believers they actually have. Most would probably be placated with basic bitch succdemm shit and the muh revolution crap is just bluster from younger people. Plus I think once boomers really start dying off and inheritance money starts coming into play more and more we might see different tunes

>> No.16717918

>>16714251
I keep forgetting that normies actually believe that.

>> No.16717925

>>16717581
>People claim to be anti-gypsy, but they're just really anti-theft-- even if they don't realize it.

>> No.16717969

>>16714231
>Let's import millions of low IQ individuals that hate us and our culture and become atemized consumers to win the imaginary race against the Chinese. All for the God of the Economy.

>> No.16718006

>>16715016
Hitler did enact his plans though, whereas China has only become less communist over the decades

>> No.16718028

>>16714231
Concepts like this seems to claim what is good for the economy and the Government is good for me. Frankly I don't see how competing with more people for less land and resources will benefit me.

>> No.16718051

>>16718028
It is the Great Boomer Delusion, anon. Money is their God.

>> No.16718069
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>>16714231
We should increase our population by annexing other countries and settling them.

>> No.16718105

>>16718069
>conveniently skipping the bit about the genocide

>> No.16718108

>>16714231
>that heartland region in the middle has a LOT of space.
we are full sorry

>> No.16718120

>>16715181
Every. Single. Time.

>> No.16718137

>>16714265
Yea. Particularly good practices that lend towards civilisation. Many chinese are crass and frankly disgusting, I hope their gov corrects this.

>> No.16718195

>>16714592
I fucking hate when a thread turns into endless iq argument

>> No.16718210

>>16714592
Or anyone that wants to understand things like group income/crime disparities, though maybe for you that means 'nazi'.

>> No.16718258

lol and make america even more of a shithole for 90%. just bumping up the population means nothing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZbAUF1-7jE

>> No.16718277

>>16718258
why are you posting a random white monkey?

>> No.16718326

>>16718277
that channel is basically the only source for plain, unbiased footage of china in the world

>> No.16719522

>>16715909
I cant wait for the days Amerimutts getting genocided and cucked eternally

>> No.16719540

>>16718326
I dont trust random whitoid comenting on China or any other asian country

>> No.16719813

What if we just incentivized college graduates to have 3-4 children for two generstions?

>> No.16719875

>>16718105
I mean except for the fact that it's literally portrayed in the painting but sure, kid.

>> No.16719916

The USA are the number one producer, exporter and enforcer of the globohomo and all related agendas. They are internationally very aggressive. Even the current administration which is "isolatioanist" compared to the few preceding.
There is no reason whatsoever for a non-mutt to support the USA against China.
Just look at the current news. That banana republic is not even capable of holding elections. Mail in ballots, days of counting in secluded rooms not opened to the public, no ID proof, 170 year old in the electorate (courting that undead vote).
The US is destined to become a country of Mexican peopel confused about their genders.
>inb4 putting it all on the Jews

>> No.16720027

>>16714285
China really isn't Communist anymore. You ever heard of Deng Xiaoping? You know they don't have a command economy anymore, right? You know they sold off a ton of state-owned enterprises and engaged in foreign direct investment starting in the '80s, right?

>> No.16720046

>>16720027
This causes a lot of butthurt, they will start talking about how it's all part of the plan to eventually become commie

>> No.16720267

how retarded unless you want to be the world factory like china over population brings more problems than it solves

>> No.16720892

>>16714265
Cringe take actually made me worry for your well being

>> No.16721017

How many times does the CIA have to destabilise South America so you guys will finally understand that socialism is bad?

>> No.16721792

>>16721017
>still butt mad socialists lost the cold war
It's time to move on.

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>>16714231
>tripling your population in the modern era where you need to work 60 hours a week for 20 years before you can even think of having kids
lmao, it isn't the 1900s anymore when anyone could shit out 4 kids before their 30th birthday.
The first world is no longer capable of this without immigration, or radically pro birth government policies, which is something china itself will probably implement in the near future to offset their own demographic issues

>rightful hegemony
>chinese "communism"
Oh i get it, it's a shitpost, nevermine

>> No.16721914

>>16714285
China is not communist.

>> No.16721940

>>16721914
What is it then?

>> No.16722013

>>16714231

Trend of the century: Population is decoupling with wealth and power. Robots are going to do more and more work. Self-driving cars have arrived: see Tesla. Only a matter of time before food industry follows manufacturing. Everything will devolve to capital and natural resources. Warfare will be throwing millions of drones at the enemy, drowning them in munitions.

Of course, you'll need highly skilled programmers to develop AI and robots. But they're the top 0.001% of humanity, given the best education. You need a few tens of thousands max. What are millions of midwits going to do other than soak up UBI money and make their betters feel bad about gassing them in their sleep? That's what will happen to us when they get the power. The direction of history is towards capital, away from labour. It's immutable, guided by the laws of nature.

By all means buy up the most valuable researchers and thinkers and leaders. Bribery of talent is a good idea for all nations, like Operation Paperclip but in peacetime. But mass immigration is totally pointless in a mechanical age.

>> No.16722098

>>16718210
crime statistics don't indicate who is committing crimes, only who gets caught. Obviously if you police certain demographics heavily, they will overrepresent the criminal population. Imagine getting detained every time you jaywalked in the last year.

>> No.16722102

>>16722013
If this is true, explain why my manager is always short on janitors but refuses to buy a fucking roomba?

>> No.16722127

>>16722013
Robots can't into artisinal crafting.

>> No.16722161

>>16722098
correct, if someone is shot in a white neighborhood the police don't show up

>> No.16722233

>>16722013
>Only a matter of time before food industry follows manufacturing
Practically speaking, I find it difficult to imagine that restaurants, with their particular margins and throughput, would achieve the economy of scale necessary to afford investments in automation. You need cooks, servers, hosts, and dishwashers. I doubt those tasks will be automated any time soon due to the lack of sufficient capital for most restaurants. To my knowledge, no one is out there investing in a machine that can cook on a line.

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>>16721940
Fascist, unironically
And I don’t mean in the “hurr durr all right wingers are fascists” antifa definition.
I mean that according to any genuine academic definition of fascism, Xi’s China more closely matches Mussolini’s Italy than any modern nation-state.
>private ownership of business and for-profit corporations are allowed, but are firmly under state supervision, all decisions of businesses must be made with the approval of the Party
>assimilationist social policy, every citizen is brought up to idolize the Nation as their primary object of devotion
>generally supportive of traditional social values and in opposition to modern “progressive” movements such as LGBT
>irredentist and militaristic, their foreign policy is preoccupied with “regaining” territories (Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc.) that they view as “rightfully Chinese” or as having “historical connections to China”