/lit/ - Literature

The way you manage to use so many words to express so little is admirable. This reads more like an evocation of the philosophical "style" rather than real, substantial philosophy. It's impressively postmodern. I would maybe go back over it all and cut out the parts which serve no purpose at all. There are lots of them.

>>16742894
Wrong.

Judging by the fact that you posted only 15 minutes after my OP, I know that you are a pseud and an idiot that skims over material without engaging with it. There is a reason that I move slowly and deliberately through the text. It is so that idiots like you can follow along and understand the earth shattering revelations that come at the end of the book.

>>16742894
If anything, the text is too short, and I have redacted too much. There is nothing to be cut, the editorial work I have to do will be minor spelling and sentence structure corrections, with some additions to add greater dimensions of context. I couldn't think of a more stupid criticism of this work than the one you offered.

>>16742907
Let's pretend for a second that you're right, and I'm the precise kind of idiot you're trying to address. Doesn't that mean that your writing is not effectively reaching me? If I am an idiot and I am reacting negatively towards your strategy, which you claim is explicitly targeted at idiots, then your strategy sucks dick at dealing with idiots. I'm not going to engage that heavily with an internet narcissist. There's no point. You're asking for free dick rubs. You're going to have to pay for them.

>>16742926
lmao no. I could give a fuck less if you read or not. I just made this so that you will have no excuse in the future. The book is available, it's in the stupidest level of english. I'm not saying that it's marketable or sexy, it isn't. It's an archaic commentary on biblical texts. That being said, this book will eventually fundamentally transform the political and scientific landscape of the modern world. Whether somebody plagerizes the book or not, it doesn't matter. The revelation in my book leads to the only practicable answer for our contemporary international crisis.

>>16742946
>That being said, this book will eventually fundamentally transform the political and scientific landscape of the modern world.
Of course it will. Good luck, anon!

>>16742946
Nobody is going to be able to say, "The Bible is too hard to understand." or "I don't get it." Because by reading my 500 page book, a child can understand what the Bible actually means.

>>16742840
This is the first time I saw a theory claiming mass is somehow generated inside the earth. have a (You) for introducing the idea to me.
The whole thing reads like a schizo shitpost, you have a fair chance at becoming a cult read, GL.

>>16742840
unironically love this. the level of passion and dedication you put into it is honestly inspiring, so thank you for this.. I'll definitely save it

bump

Wow, I thought schizo posting was just a joke.
Apparently there ARE schizos on this board. And they are always doing philosophy.
Not a poem, not a novel, not a play, not even a screenplay.
Always philosophy, always ideas.

what a bunch of wankers /lit/ is...

I like how his references is only one and a half page long.

Nice, LOL

>>16742918
there is a LOT to be cut. at 500+ pages it's obviously extremely bloated and needs a thorough editing.

for example - the sentence:

"Before delving into the details of the Biblical account of human creation, I felt that it might be necessary to provide a more scientific hypothesis of how planet Earth itself was created."

could be stated as:

"Before delving into the Biblical account of human creation, we consider the scientific hypothesis of how the Earth was created."

while losing very little information.

>>16742840
Biblical prophets didn't take drugs

>>16742840
>I could care less
>could
Anon...

Nigger

>>16743263
based
Verbose op btfo forever
truly a fraud who can't explain his ideas without his THC-soaked brain padding it with stoner babble, that OP.
how will he ever recover?

>>16742840
So you're basically Joe Rogan but more pompous
Move along

>>16742946
>the only practicable answer for our contemporary international crisis
Take a lot of drugs?
Hippies already exist anon

Terence McKenna is a hack. Listening to his lectures is like listening to a schizophrenic, talking about magical gnomes and apes tripping on mushrooms.. I must admit that I had my phase of doing lots of drugs and thinking Terence McKenna was based but you're supposed to grow out of that anon.. He was an eloquent drug addict who admitted to needing to smoke insane amounts of weed to even function properly, who died young and without discovering much of meaning for humanity. Towards the end he didn't even do drugs anymore and mellowed out on his crazy convictions.

>>16743263
This. I picked out the same sentence as an example. OP, your writing is too verbose. The number of words in almost every sentence could be cut without losing anything of substance.

The next incarnation of Huxley over here, Christ.

>>16742840
>Schizo with delusions of grandeur gets lost in a sea of psychedelic drugs and Biblical analogy

Nothing to see here, folks. I've met plenty of schizos who carry around notebooks with their "work" in it too.

>people here take everything seriously
The absolute state of nu/lit/

>>16743342
Writing a 500-page book is a serious endeavour— Schizo or not. Least we can do is tell him how to improve it.

>>16743351
Hello OP

>>16743359
Not OP. OP would have written:

Spending the time to write a 500-page examination of the biblically account of history informed by an analysis of the role of psychedelic drugs as conceived by one of the greatest and most overrated thinkers of his and possibly any generation, Terence McKenna, is a very serious endeavour indeed, regardless of your perception of his mental state. The least we in this thread can do is offer our advice as to the means by which it may be possible, in theory and in practice, to make it a superior work of scholarship, in comparison to the existing work as it currently exists.

>in contemporary science, we are given an origin story that is laughably linear and simple, that a giant explosion started at the beginning of time
If you're going to attack something as firmly grounded as the big bang, you should probably start by actually understanding what it is you're attacking, and quantify it with something a little more concrete than being, and I quote:
>... simply unacceptable from the point of view of human psychology
Why is this unacceptable? Why does "human psychology" have any relevance to the fucking big bang? What is the mechanism for this interaction? How can be drawn the map of their relationships and webs of causality? I'm asking this question because it's fucking impossible to do anything but scoff at this garbage when you expect your readers to take these things on faith. You're so confident in these completely unsubstantiated claims that you see an opportunity to segue into a fucking history lesson about discredited quack science from a century ago instead of saying anything from which there can stem ANY constructive dialogue.

By the way, nobody thinks the earth is static.

How are you going to say that the Earth is generating matter when you don't even passingly mention the laws of thermodynamics ONCE? Throughout the entirety of this 500-odd page work, you fail to address the very first question anyone with even the most cursory education would ask: how do you reconcile your theory of an expanding Earth, which equates to nothing less than a perpetual motion machine, with the extremely rigorously defined and proven laws of thermodynamics? The fact that this evidently didn't even cross your mind speaks to a man way out of his depth.

>>16743711
Zero mentions. The word "thermodynamics" appears zero times in the text

>>16742985
>This is the first time I saw a theory claiming mass is somehow generated inside the earth.

Right on Anon, I put the information for people like you who just haven't even been introduced to the idea yet. It seems unrelated to the book subject, but it actually becomes important for Moses' historiography. I appreciate your comments, make sure to give these 2 videos a watch to get the basic gestalt. The comment section is also a treasure trove of Neil Adams BTFOing science onions-boys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dxfJgKB0yk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ&list=PLOdOXoiGTICLdHklMhj9Al8G-1ZLXGEP2&ab_channel=nealadamsdotcom

>>16743139
>>16743302
Respec.

>>16743232
I've legitimately created the new philosophical point of orientation for the 21st century. I have filled in the gap between McKenna's prehistoric mushroom cult and the ancient Greeks. Keep coping.

>>16743245
Like I said, I keep bibliography very short, because most of the text is explicit in the Hebrew Bible once you read from the right perspective. This is not a "Science" paper, this a religious treatise that explains the historical and theological dimensions of the Hebrew Bible. If you look like pic rel you probably won't understand.

>>16743263
>>16743302
I will concede a point here with you anons. There are episodes of unbearable verbosity. This is probably what my next editorial pass will be largely devoted to. Even then, I doubt that I will be able to remove more than 10% of the text... It seems long, but the length is actually necessary.

>>16743270
Completely and utterly wrong.

>>16743280
I'm sober for more than 5 years now brother, find another way to cope.

>>16743287


>>16743294
It's about more than that, it's about how these drugs were integrated into the palatial and governmental culture of the ancient world. These drugs were problem solving technology for the priest classes in antiquity, they were universally used by political leaders. This is very different than having brain dead hippies taking this stuff.

>>16743296
Terence and the Stoned Ape Theory will go down in history as the most significant ideological theory of the 2nd millenium. The buttmad scientists who cucked themselves at university are just mad because a weed smoking hippie who actually enjoys life made this discovery and not them.

Terence McKenna abstained from using hallucinogens during most of his career as a public advocate for their use. Fraud or fed, you be the choice.

>>16744429
>Terence and the Stoned Ape Theory
Is just a one for one substitution of an existing (and evidenced) position on alcohol and its relationship to man’s evolution. He was an utter hack of the first order and you’re too proud to admit you’re wrong.

>>16743287
>So you're basically Joe Rogan but more pompous
pic rel.

>>16743342
>>16743351
I do take this work pretty seriously, and yes, I am open to genuine criticism. I realize that the science basedboys are going to sperg out about the bibliography, and thematic content, I want to try and improve this so we can shut these people up forever.

>>16743711
>>16743719

It isn't necessary to understand the laws of thermodynamics to understand this process. Aside from that, this is not the main subject of the book, it is a necessary precondition of the natural world that I am describing in the later pages. If you want to write a book about the relationship of thermodynamics to expanding earth theory, be my guest. It just isn't important enough to warrant serious focus or attention for this particular kind of historiographical analysis that I am performing on ancient texts.

Go watch the Neil Adams vids on youtube, it's really extremely simple to understand. If you don't believe him, go watch how literally takes the time to BTFO EVERYONE in the comment section. All of these science basedboys walk away limping, it's pretty impressive desu.

>>16744441
100% a Fed, I'm going to talk about the MKultra project in the last part of the book. Basically, I believe that Leary and McKenna played along with the Feds to stay out of Jail and keep talking about these drugs. They genuinely believed that these drugs were going to create social forces that would overpower the state. Guess what? They were right, and we are seeing this manifest even clearer with JRE.

>>16744454
McKenna was the first to single out the psilocybin mushroom, it was unquestionably a stroke of genius. He's 100% correct, and that is why the traditions of the Bible and Near east are utterly riddled with mushroom symbolism. The biblical tradition directly inherited Terence's "Mushroom Religion" through the civilizations of Sumer and Egypt. I reiterate this point on multiple occasions by quoting directly from the Bible. It's actually the simplest explanation for the historical nature of the Bible, and it turns out that the entire story starts to make sense once you begin recognizing the mushroom symbolism.

You're gay but I'll read your shit

Will read op

>>16744857
>>16744985

I might be kind of a sperg at times, but trust me, it is worth your time if you have an interest in history or religion. It clarifies a lot of information about the Bronze Age that classicists have not been able to understand for a very long time. Glad to be shitposting with you anons. Honor and Respec.

>>16742926
Lol, you hit the nail on the head here.

>>16744454
I should probably add that it is much more likely that a drug that grows brain cells (ie: psilocybin mushrooms) would play a greater role in the development of the human brain over evolutionary spans of time. Whereas alcohol, proven to destroy brain cells, would likely not be involved in this process. In fact we might suppose that cultures that used alcohol tended towards decline, and this likely accounts for why alcohol has been prohibited in a number of eastern cultures, as well as by the Free-Masons and Protestants in America.

Terence explains clearly how Alcohol was a generally degraded form of the intoxicating mushroom cult of the near east. Grain could be cultivated and fermented by agricultural civilizations, while mushrooms could not be cultivated until very recently with the development of the microscope.

>>16744465
>It isn't necessary to understand the laws of thermodynamics to understand this process.
How would you know? You don't understand them. I'm willing to bet you'd never even heard of thermodynamics until just now.
>this is not the main subject of the book, it is a necessary precondition of the natural world
YOUR PRECONDITIONS ARE WRONG. It follows that anything building on these preconditions is false. If this is a serious work intended to be taken seriously, you absolutely need to do WAY more than just wave your hands in the direction of bullshit "science" from 100 years ago. Anyone with half a brain and a critical eye is going to read the passage where you try to establish perpetual motion as a fucking fact beyond reproach and stop reading right there. I don't know how to stress this enough. If this isn't some loony bin meme book, you need to do your due diligence. If you intend this to be a work of philosophy, you cannot just pretend that logic works the way you want it to when you want it to. When building an argument, your preconditions need to be unassailable, ESPECIALLY if they are hotly contested.
>All of these science basedboys walk away limping
Yeah, sophistry has that effect when you're heavy on rhetorical skill but light on genuine intellectual rigour.

>>16746077
That's a lot of cope there bud.

Thermodynamics and all of your gay science shit is not necessary to understand that there is big hot molten cum inside of the earth, and by some energetic process, energy is converted to matter there. Simple as. As more matter is generated, the molten cum goes to the surface, cools in the oceans, and creates the surface of the earth. Just because we don't understand how this is happening, doesn't mean that it isn't happening. The age of the ocean floors EXPLICITLY tells us that 300+ million years ago, there were no ocean floors ANYWHERE! This can only mean that the earth is expanding.

Everything about conventional science is FAKE & GAY.

>>16742926
Based

>>16746197
>The age of the ocean floors EXPLICITLY tells us that 300+ million years ago, there were no ocean floors ANYWHERE!
Explain to me your understanding of the methodology behind dating the ocean floors.

>>16746077
The truth is that the world is much more simple than our fraudulent sciences would have us believe. There is nothing arcane or complicated about this. by looking at a few maps any unindoctrinated dumbass can understand that the age of the ocean floor clearly shows that the earth is expanding.

If you can't get this through your thick skull, then frankly, you probably are not capable of comprehending the esoteric concepts that come later in the book. Your so called "Scientific Laws" are just bullshit theories, usually made by 19th century idiots that knew no better than your average joe today. There is nothing fundamentally real about science, it is a set of theoretical constructs that often times do a shitty job of explaining the world in a comprehensible framework for ordinary people. That's why I don't use gay science rhetoric except where it's absolutely necessary to get the onions-boys to stfu.

>>16746224
>Your so called "Scientific Laws" are just bullshit theories
Yeah, I'm sure all science is bullshit except for the parts that suit your argument. It's sophistry, pure and simple. Your book is sophistry and you are a sophist.

>>16746223
>>16746243

All of your arguments are sophistry, and avoiding the fundamental crux of the argument.

Is the earth expanding. Yes? or No?

That's what the argument is, prove that your gay science says one way or the other or just shut up. You are turning this into a personal attack against me because you are jealous. Frankly it is predictable and typical behavior from university cucks like you that will never achieve any form of true historical greatness.

Get fucked.

>>16746260
Ok retard

>>16746304
See? You're an idiot after all. That wasn't that hard to admit was it?

Now you can move on to actually understanding how this works.

>>I take this analysis a step further, and claim that it is precisely within the Abrahamic Religions, that we find the clearest literary evidence of drug use in comparison to any other Religion or culture on the planet today

What's your argument for this?

>>16746388
That's another 500 pages of text. You'll see lots of different examples.

The Israelites preserved the most extensive body of religious literature from the bronze age world. In the stories of all of the Abrahamic Prophets, there are persistent allusions to dreams, visions, intoxicating foods and drinks, bull worship, Temples, avid sex lives, music, and other cultural indicators that point to the use of hallucinogenic drugs.

The first couple of chapters will seem vague and slow moving, but it sets the necessary preconditions for examining the later stories that have explicit references to psychedelic drugs. The analysis becomes more historically verifiable as the narrative progresses By the end of the book you will learn the true origin point of Classical Architecture in the Mediterranean basin. There is a reason that nobody has understood the role of psychedelic drugs in the Abrahamic traditions for several thousand years, and why only very few can understand the origins of classical civilization before Greece. There is a lot of information that you have to examine in context, I just put the analysis on the rails and give the most important pieces of information. It took me 10 years to put this research together.

There will be another volume that addresses the post-bronze age and modern world. This Mushroom tradition has a thread of continuity through organizations like the Free-Masons all the way into the deepest history of the ancient world.

>>dreams, visions, intoxicating foods and drinks, bull worship, Temples, avid sex lives, music, and other cultural indicators
These can all be explained without having to appeal to hallucinogens.

>>16746388
If you want the cheat codes, I'll give you two quick references.

1st reference is the verses in Exodus chapter 16 about the Manna. Many people have discussed how this appears to be a botanical identification of psilocybin mushrooms. I discuss this in the chapter titled "Magical Moses".

The second reference which is my unique discovery is a simple verse from Proverbs 20:30 in the King James Version of the Bible. This verse was authored by Solomon according to tradition, and I include it in the chapter titled "Secrets of Solomon". The verse reads as follows:

"The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil, so do stripes the inward parts of the Belly."

This in my opinion is Solomon directly describing Psilocybin Mushrooms in a poetic manner. By looking at the images you can see the blue bruising of psilocybin mushrooms, and the striped gills underneath the caps appear to represent the "stripes the inward parts of the belly". There are many such instances with Solomon that I discuss in the book. Solomon is very much a priestly and artistic king of the Israelites, an architect and poet with great administrative ability.

>>16746525
If you actually read the book, you will see the explicit references that are constantly mentioned. Although Copelords like you will always try to wriggle and writhe your way out of accepting the validity of this religious tradition because of your mental inferiority.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter, because better men than you will realize the truth of this revelation, and will come to rule over you. This is a fundamental pattern of history, and the Israelite relationship to these drugs is the reason they achieved hegemony over the entire Fertile crescent in antiquity. Biological and historical destiny dictates that the Mushroom cultists always rise to intellectual and political mastery.

Legitimately boring and has been doing before.

>>16746624
Funny, because taking hallucinogens didn't make me want to "rise" to anything, just stare at flowers and listen to The Doors. I don't know of anyone who has done otherwise.

>>16746635
I can see how somebody who doesn't read books might say that. If you can make it past the first 100 pages, you will see that in fact, this analysis has never been done before.

>>16746571
"The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil, so do stripes the inward parts of the Belly."
>it's a mushroom, man
>they're blue, man
>no, no, blue in this biblical context doesn't mean the mood of the evil you've just corrected
>mushrooms, man
Are you retarded?

>>16746656
Steve Jobs, Joe Rogan, Terence McKenna, and tens of thousands of unnamed people who find a depth of theological meaning and purpose from taking these drugs.

I've talked to redditors like you before that only talk about the colors and consumer products they consume while under the influence. You are not taking this in the correct frame of mind to be chosen by the Gods. They ignore you.

>>16746658
Always the know nothing's love to chime in! The reason I say this is because Solomon has several other references to these drugs. You have to understand that these people had a completely different understanding of these drugs, and the world around them. They always referenced these drugs poetically out of reverence. It's something that gay science boys like you are just fundamentally incapable of comprehending.

>>16746686
>just fundamentally incapable of comprehending.

It's a soul-affirming proverb from Solomon to guide his followers into not feeling guilt in vanquishing their enemies. Read the fucking Bhagavad Gita sometime.

>find a depth of theological meaning and purpose
>achieve hegemony over the entire Fertile crescent in antiquity
Pick one.

I hate Terrence Mckenna. My brother got into reading a bunch of him at a teenager and young adult. Retard actually fell for the larp and started taking tons of drugs. Did so much acid and K to make himself retarded and schizo.
This whole thread reminds me of my retarded faggot brother. The delusions of grandeur, the narcissistic tantrums, the general foul mood.
I hope your project fails, OP.

>>16746703
Not entirely untrue, but it is also a poetic allusion to psilocybin mushrooms. The warrior cult of the Israelites before Solomon was using these drugs to enhance their ferocity and ability in battle. Solomon was simply continuing the tradition, you would know this if you've ever read the bible.

>>16746781
Plot twist. Your brother is the sane one, and you are the pathetic mentally ill schizophrenic that cucks himself to the authority of the age. Cucks like you end up sucking off whoever is in power, your opinion means nothing.

>>16746786
Already done before. Your whole thesis stinks of erowid forums meets Robert Charroux-tier anthropology. You can't be over the age of 30, right?

>>16746763
Little dicks don't understand that both military power and spiritual grandeur are possible at the same time. Read more BAP.

>>16746678
> finds theological meaning in a toxic chemical
The absolute state of pinhead brainlets.

>>16746798
Wrong, actually. My brother can't survive without the government. He got Jew'd beyond belief.

>>16746828
>dude there's no such thing as spirit, it's all just brain chemicals!

>>16746807
Your just fundamentally wrong. This analysis has never been done before, and the jealous butthurt seethe is reeking off your pathetic posts.

>>16746830
Just because your brother can't handle his shit doesn't mean that better men can't handle it. My guess is that your family is a bunch of weak cucks to raise somebody as resentful of his own blood as you are towards your brother. You people do nothing but expose how spiritually pathetic and idiotic you are when you try to attack this most sacred and ancient tradition.

>>16746820

>>16746828
I'll have you know all my chemicals are theological.

>>16746880
LMAO! The Cope! He breaks out the dick compensating device! Maybe he'll do a drive by in a Lambo!

So, these "aliens" McKenna encountered while tripping -- were they really demons?

>not everything in hyperspace is friendly. Most of you are already aware of this; there are many reports out there of encounters with blatantly malevolent beings. But the most prevalent variety of "evil" (to use a grossly reductionist but convenient cliche) out there is the non-obvious kind, things masquerading as something much different than their true nature. In fact, I would venture to guess that most of the forms of intelligence found in hyperspace, even if not overtly malicious, are not anything like what they pretend to be, do not have your best interests in mind, and are absolutely not trustworthy. I firmly believe that the many varieties of malevolence that can be found out there go far beyond the territory of a mere "bad trip," and are distinctly different from the negative experiences one can have that come from a reflection of one's own thoughts, emotions, and environment (i.e., improper set and setting).

>The discrepancy between how these entities present themselves and what they really are is the point that I really want to emphasize the most. Perhaps all of these things happened to me because I was naively trusting and inexperienced, but I think that even the most experienced psychonaut may not be immune. If you think that you have a clear sense of what is malicious and what isn't, and that nothing out there can deceive you, then they will absolutely use that overconfidence to manipulate you.
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62070

>>16746877
There are literally so many theories pertaining to magic mushrooms being used throughout history. Hell, any rudimentary readings on pagan cultures throughout Europe or the Americas, and one can arrive easily arrive at this theory. It's literally in Hall's Secret Teachings. I don't know why you're jerking yourself off over this very base occult notion.
McKenna himself was a hack, just like his the man who taught him to grift, Crowley.

And the people who usually judge someone for not getting along with a family member are usually those family members who have been ostracized for their behavior. You seem like a lonely guy, spending so much time on this tired DUDE DRUGS stuff.

>both military power and spiritual grandeur are possible at the same time
You're making a non sequitur. Military power comes from manpower, natural resources and political stability. Magic mushrooms are hippie stuff.

>>16746889
A plant that literally grows braincells and can't kill you is hardly "toxic". That's just myco-phobic propaganda from little dick Euros that are afraid of hallucinogenic experience. My guess is that you're also a drunk, and somehow that's not poison. You people are idiots.

>>16746906
Why is this the usually druggie response? We get it, faggot, you ruined your brain with THC, so you instantly deflect onto other substances to alleviate your shame.

>>16746901
It goes beyond that. I explain how classical architecture was invented by people under the influence of these drugs. That the whole civilization of antiquity was organized around the construction of temple complexes where people go to take hallucinogens. These were administrative and governmental centers that also served a double function as hallucinogenic amusement parks. This is where geo-political intelligence was gathered, and interpreted under the mind altering effects of hallucinogens. I explain how the Israelites created specific archeological sites in the Middle East. Local Arabs have always known and asserted this, but I prove it to gay western faggots.

>>16746915
I'm sober for more than 5 years. I don't have any kind of addiction, nor have I "ruined my brain". Very clearly my thought process is far more historically detailed and intricate than you can even comprehend or keep up with.

>>16746925
YAWN! LITERALLY SOMETHING BLAVATSKY WROTE ABOUT.
There's no shortage of occult literature pertaining to Kabbalistic sects who use substances to see and feel spiritual machinations. Rashid ad-Din Sinan and those Sufis, Zevi and the Sabbateans, the Orphic Gnostics and their cup of sobriety. This whole notion that civilization is built upon the visions of substances has a long and storied history throughout occult study. And now you're going into Graham Hancock-tier argumentation about architecture! What's next? Golden ratio?

>>16746986
There is proof in the bible that King Solomon was real, and that the temple culture he inherited was entirely centered around hallucinogenic experience. So yes, this is a very big deal, because it forces a reckoning upon all of the mainline versions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. They will all be forced to concede that their tradition is a drug cult. This is a fundamental transformation to the ideological substructure of our age. This vindicates the Free Masons, and the American civilizational project that attempted to resurrect this ancient tradition of Antiquity. It is a guide stone for our civilization into the future, and this analysis has never been done in a chronological and detailed manner that traces this tradition from it's origin in the bronze age to the 1960s. I'm sorry to say, but random speculation about the gnostics or sufis is not the same as building a historical framework for understanding the origins of human civilization and culture. That is what this book is about.

>>16747022
>he temple culture he inherited was entirely centered around hallucinogenic experience
> So yes, this is a very big deal, because it forces a reckoning upon all of the mainline versions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
>This vindicates the Free Masons, and the American civilizational project that attempted to resurrect this ancient tradition of Antiquity.

So, like Crowely then? Literally what the A∴A∴ reading list entails. The "old ways" of being, from the Golden Age, bringing them back to usher in the Age of Aquarius. You're probably 100 years too late now, bud. If you think the higher echelons of society will read your book, and glean anything new and insightful from it is just a delusion,

>>16747115
It's not for the "higher eschelons" who as far as I care can all burn in hell. It is a reference book for Neets and memelords to understand how civilization generated itself in antiquity. It is an atlas of the ancient world, filled with excerpts that can be used to humiliate sanctimonious ass holes like yourself. With time, this understanding will grow in populariy, it is a historical inevitability, I'm just about 10 or 20 years ahead of the curve. We are not far away from everyone understanding these things, and totally replacing the Abrahamic Religions with a completely new psychedelic orthodoxy.

I don't think cucks like Crowley had a vision for creating an orthodox religion based on the laws of the old testament, to me he seems like nothing but a liberal faggot. I'm not late, and you'll see in 20 years when this is my world, and you just get to live in it.

>>16747115
To be clear, I'm not claiming to have been the first to assert the use of psychedelic drugs in antiquity, (although I have unquestionably made a number of unique textual discoveries in biblical texts). I am the first person to organize these traditions into a historical framework that can be understood by common people. That's the important part about this work. Is that by understanding the contents of this book, a person can understand the origins of civilization in prehistory, and has an appropriate historiographical framework for understanding the entirety of human history.

>>16747202
>This book will change the world as we know it
>Because by reading my 500 page book, a child can understand what the Bible actually means.
>gets called out for his unoriginal ideas and shit, bloated prose
>Hahah jk guys i wrote this for internet neets and memelords
>literally using the noun memelord

Yup, schizophrenia.
>I don't think cucks like Crowley had a vision for creating an orthodox religion based on the laws of the old testament
Yes he did, you retard. That's what Thelema is all about.
By god, just spend your own goddamn money and hire a fucking editor for your stoner babble. But, I don't think you have the money to spend, really.

>>16744429
Biblical prophets did not take drugs you fucking useless pretentious stoner

>I have unironically written the single most important book of the 21st century
Delusions of grandeur are so disgusting

>>16747202
>I don't think cucks like Crowley

You do know Terrence McKenna idolized Crowley, right? He stated that he felt that he was merely continuing the work that Crowley laid out.
You'd think someone who wrote a 500 page about based on the ideas of McKenna, would at least garner enough research to understand where the fucking guy was coming from.
Shill you fucking book on Reddit, you fucking pseud.

>>16747265
Maybe you didn't notice, but Memelords and Neets create culture in the modern world. This is the only audience that matters.

Baseless attacks that have nothing to do with my work, calling schizofren, accusing me of being poor, all of these things demonstrate nothing except for your own lack of depth and insight.

Crowley was a gay liberal cuck that believed in freewill above everything else. You aren't reading his work correctly if you think he is advocating a legalistic social order based on the ordinances of the Old Testament.

>>16742840

First error spotted within three sentences: internet is not capitalized when it should be. Get yourself a copy editor, I'm not gonna comb through that addled schizo bible of yours to correct every slip up mate. Get off your high unicorn and take some meds, this post is peak delusions of grandeur.

>>16747328
You seem extremely confused. Crowley's basis was the KJV old testament.
You know very little about anything. You rail against Abrahamic religions, then post Templar memes and soijacks.
So all over and place, so disconnected in you rants. Crowley was not a "liberal." I don't even think you know what a "liberal" is.

>>16747307
I'm aware that Crowley was an influential figure during the 60's and onward. I don't have to cuck myself to every single one of Terence's ideas to recognize his achievement in a particular area. Here I am referencing Human Evolution.

Aside from that, Terence McKenna constantly derided the Abrahamic Tradition as a legalistic and non-psychedelic religion. I clearly dispute this attitude of Terence throughout the book. This is not a biography of Terence, it is a commentary on the Bible and I use one of Terence's theories to illustrate some important concepts.

I think if Terence were here today he would concede to the points that I am making and change his opinion on the Abrahamic Religions, and probably on faggots like Crowley as well.

>>16747356
First of all everyone used the KJV to perform biblical scholarship until very recently. It doesn't mean he was a genuine adherent to the precepts of the Old Testament. As far as I can tell, he defies biblical law with his disgusting notions of liberalism and free will.

What in the hell makes you think I'm railing against the Abrahamic Religions? My interpretation is one of absolute reverence for the biblical prophets without question. I shit on the modern practitioners of these religions because they have soiled the good name of these men with their false interpretations of these texts. I unironically have the only correct interpretation of these texts. It's going to be beautiful when I publicly BTFO all of you people for the sake of the LORD.

>>16747369
> I don't have to cuck myself to every single one of Terence's ideas to recognize his achievement in a particular area.

Shame, if you would have, then you would've realized just how useless your undertaking is.

>>16747352
Like I said it's an early manuscript, and I don't really care that much about reddit grammar. As long as the ideas are being conveyed thoroughly.

>>16747410
What kind of idiotic take is this. Am I not allowed to select different lines of thinking from a variated group of intellectuals? Are you a fuckin' moron?

>>16747405
>What in the hell makes you think I'm railing against the Abrahamic Religions?
>it forces a reckoning upon all of the mainline versions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. They will all be forced to concede that their tradition is a drug cult.

So, yeah, you dream of a New Age where we devolve back to Bacchic rites. You don't even remember what the fuck you've said in this tread. How can I take 500 pages of this jumbled thought process?

>>16747419
>>16747430
You really do sound like a bitter, disgusting person. People point out an obvious gap in your research, something that maybe you should go back and look into, and you begin making shit up and calling people idiots.
>and I don't really care that much about reddit grammar. As long as the ideas are being conveyed thoroughly.
So you're a shit writer, and you admit it. Nice~

>>16747443
No... It's very clearly you who is not understanding what I am asserting. Do you think I would have written a 500 page book to explain my thought if I could explain it through shitposts on a messageboard? You don't know anything about my thought, or my sources, and you claim to have me all figured out. I highly doubt you've ever even read the Bible cover to cover for Christ sake. Just fuck off and go find somewhere else to ruin with your pathetic jealous attitude.

>>16747466
What is the gap? I have seen no gap pointed out to me in this entire discussion. Gay reddit grammar? Sure I'll give you that, I never claimed to be a prolific writer, just that the ideas and theoretical structure I am proposing is going to revolutionize the historiography of antiquity. Even if I don't succeed in this version of the book, eventually these ideas will be accepted by mainstream historians and thinkers, because it's fundamentally true.

>>16747477
>people did drugs
>here are some bible passages that i think are related to drugs
>terrence wanted to usher in the age of aquarius/new world order
>abrahamic religions are bound to die in this new age
>then, because of me, we will look back on the figures in the bible as the cool, subversive drug-taking rogues they were!

It seems pretty fucking braindead to me. Shit that I thought of with my stoner friends in high school.

>>16747272
That's where you're wrong kiddo.

Interested in reading this book simply because you keep BTFOing people in this thread, but are you essentially just an advocate of magic mushrooms? I saw you mention Rogan’s podcast but I don’t think he is on the right page at all about anything.. also based off my own admittedly few experiences with mushrooms, I don’t think all these scientists are going to succeed with using these drugs to treat ‘depression’ and drug addiction. To me they were a very peculiar and interesting experience, but do you think they are really an answer to the problems we face? And do you feel the same about acid too? Sorry if I misunderstood you at all..

Most of these criticisms I’m reading in this thread come off as extremely butthurt, I think it’s as simple as them being jealous that op wrote a book

>>16742840
Where to start with McKenna? I'd appreciate if you gave a reading list.

>Do you think I would have written a 500 page book to explain my thought if I could explain it through shitposts on a messageboard?
No, you only have to summarize your arguments and make them sound plausible and original enough to convince us to read your book. That's what shitposts are for. By the looks of it, you aren't having much success with that.

>>16747571
>Jealous of a NEET who spent an unnecessary amount of time writing Theosopical fanfiction with ideas penned more than 120 years ago

Yeah, ok. Stop samefagging, you schizo.

>>16747496
We'll see how braindead it is when I single-handedly use this understanding to reform the sub-structure of the United States government and save this country from the brink of absolute doom and destruction.

You better start believing in prophecies boyo. Cause you're in one.

>>16747545
Happy to answer anon, you have the right attitude to understand this stuff. Essentially yes, I am an advocate for magic mushrooms, I believe that the human race has a very fundamental symbiotic relationship with these drugs. They contributed to our evolution, and they help us to understand how the realms of cognition and thinking function. Sometimes they do this by showing us our own bullshit, and this is why many people are very afraid of these drugs.

I agree that Rogan is partially misguided about this stuff, but I do not necessarily believe that he is beyond hope. I agree that the medical model is too confined, and that these drugs have to take on a completely different political and religious dimension in our society. In the book I explain how the political and religious dimensions of these drugs functioned at a very basic level.

LSD was likely also used in antiquity, I cover some of theBiblical Ergot references in my book (LSD fungus that grows on grain). In short, the drugs are not the total answer to the problems that we face. We have to relearn how to institutionalize the consumption of these drugs within a religious and political setting. Using the Religious Restoration act, we can assert legal rights to take these drugs recreationally. The next step will be electing politicians who are part of an extended church community of psychedelic practitioners.

The reason for this is that Psychedelic thinkers are more capable of seeing reality for what it is, and not according to their cultural biases. They are also more likely to believe in a higher power, and behave ethically towards other people. The institutionalization of a religious and political class that takes these drugs will save this country. This is essentially what the Free Masons were, and this way all but one of the Signatories of the Constitution were Masons.

>>16747573
Food of the Gods is a great start point for understanding Stoned Ape Theory. After that if you want to know Terence's personal life story, you can read "True Hallucinations" to learn about his adventures when he was formulating his thought. His brother Dennis also wrote an extensive Biography called "Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss" that includes lots of interesting insights on Terence and the psychedelic culture of the 60's. Those are the essentials I think, you can read his other works for fun if you like, but these 3 books will give you a good understanding of him as a person and his general thought.

In order:
1. Food of the Gods
2. True Hallucinations
3. Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss

Food of the Gods is a really easy and fun read with lots of great anecdotes and short chapters, give that a shot and see if your interest is captured to read his other works.

>The institutionalization of a religious and political class that takes these drugs will save this country.
Great idea, surely the government would use these substances ethically and not for the purposes of interrogation or mind control of unconsenting victims. There's no way they would do something like that, right?

Are you literally replying to yourself now? lmfao you're a piece of work.

>>16747635
>>16747545

>In the book I explain how the political and religious dimensions of these drugs functioned at a very basic level in the ancient world.

>"and this is why all but one of the Signatories of the Constitution were Masons."

Lastly, if you don't have time to read the book, I made a very shitty documentary last year that explains all of the major themes in 4 hours and 20 minutes. You can watch that instead. The first hour starts a bit slow, but it gets more interesting as it goes along. The video is intentionally a bit of a meme, and is less detailed in comparison to the book, but it shows that these drugs were very likely used in the Abrahamic traditions.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/niUznV7Lzt8u/

>>16742840
>Psychedelic History from the Bronze Age to the 1960's.
>60's
>Error in the description
>His other uploads have thumbnails of Bill Hicks
>DUDE LSD BRO
>STONED APE BRO

Jesus.

ITT:
Schizo larping as a writer who lived a hard life and listened to fringe pseudo-philosopher feds during his formative years recycles two hundred year old ideas, creating a jumbled manuscript more split-brained than Coronameron.
Proud of you anon, you're the next Ram Dass.

>>16747667
I'm talking about an act of personal choice to ingest these drugs and be public about it. Not forcing other people to take these drugs. The bravest members of our society who take these drugs should be universally recognized as leadership material, because these drugs weed out cowardice and immorality from the character of a man. This is why lots of people can't handle it.

>>16747683
Believe it or not there are actually people who are genuinely interested in learning new things.

>>16747704
>if you don't have time to reading my 500 page book, why not watch my four hour long documentary

I'm genuinely impressed with your levels of sheer autism. Good job, anon. You have my respect.

>>16747720
The documentary is a meme version of the theory, I use clips from lots of popular commentators, films, and documentaries to illustrate the historical chronology of events in the bible, and their similarity to the culture of the 1960s. The bible was a fertility cult, and they worshipped sex, drugs, and rock & roll (warfare). As far as the 1960s thing goes, ya got me, I'll change it up.

>>16747739
Honestly I don't know how but all of this just kind of happened when I realized two years ago that I could BTFO literally every popular intellectual with my theory. I decided to try and meme these ideas into the collective unconscious, I'm having more success now than I have had in the past, we'll see where it all goes.

>>16747805
Could be pretty dangerous, this book, if I'm being honest. You sure you're not being gangstalked?

>>16747816
I've had a profile with the FBI for years, they know who I am and if they wanted to kill me they would have done it years ago. I used to worry about Feds trying to kill me over this, but I'm full on Bronze Age Mindset now. I'm ready for a glorious death if they decide to meet me in the strong encounter.

>>16747840
Seems probable. There was certainly some shill behavior in this thread. They probably monitor you all the time. Anything weird going on outside?

>>16747845
I'd really be flattered if they had dedicated agents trying to shill post against me lmao. No, I live in a pretty quiet suburb, and honestly, my intentions are pure. I'm just trying to stop the United States government from collapsing. If anything, I think they would probably recognize that I'm actually stepping in and doing a big part of their work for them.

... And I'm doing it for free...

>>16747856
Well that's a noble cause, anon. Not many undertake such a plight. Now, let me ask you this, you ever take a hard dick to the fucking face, you faggot?

>>16747635
Is that really what mushrooms do..? I actually took them seeking an introspective journey but I would say my experience was beyond words and logic, I felt primal and warmth. But I couldn’t take any of that with me when the experience was over, nothing I ‘saw’ was practical or applicable to my life, I couldn’t say anything other than it was an interesting experience. Somebody once told me that we experience what we want to experience. And I am curious how you would respond to my experience and the experience of so many people who take these substances for entertainment, do you believe that without the proper culture in place the experiences these drugs produce are unguided and therefore unlikely to produce positive change?

>>16747862
I think I struck a nerve when I told the Feds I was carrying their dead weight!

>>16747865
It's an interesting question at the edge of my understanding.

>Is that really what mushrooms do...?
In some cases, they can be used for gaining intuitive insights into complicated issues. This is very relevant for people in political positions, because politicians constantly have to make decisions based on their instincts, where there is no clearly defined objective rule set that they can follow. Without the use of psychedelic drugs, these people are basically lost and have no compass to reference for making these difficult decisions that effect people on a very spiritual and personal level. It takes time and practice to learn how to use these drugs in divination, this is why the ancient world had an entire caste of priests in every society that was typically dedicated to sorting out the government, it's history, language, economy, and usually used hallucinogens.

The short answer to question 2 is yes, that the cognitive and cultural environment determines the quality of the experience to a large degree. One of the main reasons of building beautiful temples in the ancient world was about setting up a "set and setting" for psychedelic drug trips, where people would literally meet with their Gods. Temples in the ancient world were places where you could not harm other people, this would create a reputation for these temples as safe places to have these often times unpredictable experiences. The beautiful artistry on the outside of the temple was meant to inspire people in ordinary consciousness, but also people in psychedelic trance states. Much of the temple architecture of the ancient world is largely designed after floral geometric art motifs, which is how some people describe their hallucinations from these drugs. It is meant to demonstrate the natural and perfect order of mother nature that we see when we take these drugs.

At the end of the day, the only way to reintroduce this priestly practice of mushroom consumption is to start doing it in general compliance with the descriptions given to us in the Old Testament.

>>16747865
>>16747934

These things being said, these drugs were definitely used for entertainment as well. These temple sites were essentially like resorts for the ancient world. People would travel great distances to these temples to make sacrifices to the Gods, and probably to also have drug experiences to communicate with the God. If they had bad trips, they could talk to the priests, who would try and interpret their visions within the context of the political and social circumstances surrounding that individual. The priests could then offer advice on behalf of the God they served. This was how the temple culture of the Greeks, Romans, Phoenicians, and Jews fundamentally worked, and it was a way to make the psychedelic experience universally accessible to everyone, and to use these experiences to understand the world from a more esoteric and personal point of view.

>>16747522
>no argument
Ok fedorafag

>>16747419
What, me use grammar?

>>16748352
picrel

>>16748062
>no argument
There are more than 500 pages of an argument and a 4 hour long documentary that proves that you are wrong.

>>16748601
Did you take your meds today?

I am going to make sure this book never reaches wider public awareness, believe me

>>16748601
Just don't quit your day job

>>16748698
He probably doesn't have a job since he's begging on 4chan for editing services.

>>16748625
You should really think twice before making that commitment. If I'm right, then the entirety of global civilization will depend on this knowledge in order to survive. The civilizational crisis we are experiencing today is directly caused by our inability to remember these ancient traditions. The fate of civilization depends upon people understanding this information, and applying it to our modern governmental infrastructure in a very specific way.

You may not like it, but this understanding is the only thing that is capable of stopping the total collapse of civilization.

>>16748698
>>16748703

"Man does not live by bread alone, but by every word that floweth from the mouth of God."

That being said I do have a job, and I don't plan on quitting until the Lord makes another way for me. I'm really not begging, like I said, I am open to criticism, but I am posting this knowledge here because I know that many of you here are searching for real answers to the existential crisis of our age. This book has the beginnings of those answers.

>>16748734
>savior complex

Dropped.

I could probably pummel OP thoroughly. Just completely dominate him in a fight. He seems like the meek type of person who is anxious over correcting a wrong order at a restaurant.

>>16748754
I definitely didn't choose this, it chose me. I have a moral obligation to be honest about the significance of these insights. I don't want to be in this position, but the Godless world of today is in such a sorry state that I literally have no choice. Simple truth looks like a divine revelation when it is given to a morally decayed people.

>>16748767
Easy to speak such vain words behind a computer.

>>16748824
nah you seem like a BITCH lmao

>>16743270
Not OP but you’re a fucking fool who has no idea what the history of religion involves.
Op is retarded, but psychedelics have fundamentally altered much of our cultural thought

>>16748834
Perhaps I will have the privilege of testing your theory someday. For now, your words mean nothing.

>>16748849
bitch

>>16745019
Posting this meme confirms you're a LARPing faggot retard

>>16748891
Just severely mentally ill, anon. It's hard to know you're LARPing when your brain LARPs for you.

>>16745019


Nigga you had me at ancient people, im reading op

>>16743310
>>16747571
Thanks for the nice comments anons. in the heat of message board battle sometimes we forget to acknowledge the frens.

>>16746904
Argument is pretty simple here, Mushroom using cultures = priest class with administrative efficiency + warrior class with highly active CNS arousal. In the ancient world combat relied heavily on intimidation and hand eye coordination, these drugs would have contributed immensely to these abilities.

>>16742840
>he made his 'book' over 500 pages long
>no citations
>written poorly
>drole used up talking points with no original insight or poignance
Yep, this is an epic fail OP

>>16748751
Can't take em seriously if they're written sloppily

>>16749448
I want to punch that face

>>16742840
looks like shit

>>16742840
Are you intending it to be in the same style is McKenna? His prose is quite 'wordy' so you've succeeded there...

>>16742926
Hero.

>>16742840
Amanita muscaria grows actually prefers birch over pine, and eating any kind of mushroom growing on a pine is likely to make you sick

>>16742926
basado

>>16751081
>>16751822
I love how you pseuds love praising sophists that do nothing but word play. You are unoriginal hacks with no real academic spine.

>>16751072
I'm not going for any kind of "style" really. I don't fetishize writing as a consumer product the way that most anons in this thread do. I believe words are meant to convey meaning and I do the best job that I can to convey the long thesis of this book. It might come out a little loose at times, but that's what the second run of editing is for. As I've stated before in this thread, the reason I posted this book is for the small number of oldfags left in this hellhole who aren't reddit tourists that actually care about philosophy, history, and the continued intellectual tradition of the human race. Anyone who reads this book and understands it's contents, will be among a small handful of people that actually have the correct interpretation of bronze age history. My goal is to expand those numbers over the coming years, this going to take a very long time and will require patience.

>>16751609
.... Well there are no Birch trees in the Levant, the Amanita's there grow under pine trees. It's not very accurate to say "mushroom in this place is bad", all mushrooms have their own properties, there is a persistent fear of mushrooms among a lot of different cultures because some of them are lethal, and others make you trip balls. European cultures in particular seem to struggle with psychedelic mushrooms, Wasson notes how this is actually what started his interest in mycology, because he was raised to be deathly afraid of mushrooms, but while on his honeymoon his Russian wife found some wild mushrooms and brought them home as a gift. Apparently this caused a small fight, and the event left a lasting impression on Wasson so he started studying these mushrooms and basically became the founder of ethnobotanical studies.

>>16749454
I never said that the words in my book were from the mouth of God if that's what you are implying. The biblical scripture I quoted is a statement that is used by Christians to express that men do not live by money and bread, that we have to live by faith. Although I am gainfully employed, and unlike most anons in this thread I live in my own apartment. whether or not I or anybody else has a job has absolutely no relevance. It's elitist God-less snobbery that dehumanizes the poor, and it's wrong.