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>> No.16874846

none

>> No.16874847

Jordon Peterson.

>> No.16874848

me

>> No.16874850

me

>> No.16874854

>>16874844
We won't have a civilization in 100 years, so >>1687484 is the correct answer

>> No.16874880

me

>> No.16874883

>>16874844
probably Moldbug... the only philosophers which endure the pass of time are those who come up with their own epistemology. From Plato passing through Aquinas to Hegel until Heidegger.

>> No.16874893

probably Stefan Molyneux

>> No.16874894

>>16874844
Not philosophy but Linguistics for Chomsky.

>> No.16874899

>>16874844
unironically Land, Peterson, Moldbug

>> No.16874901

>>16874883
>moldbug
>developing his own epistemology
>philosopher
LMAO
M
A
O

>> No.16874904

>>16874894
>chomsky instead of Frege

>> No.16874910

>>16874844
Slavoj Zizek is the only correct answer

>> No.16874912
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>>16874883
>probably Moldbug

>> No.16874917

>>16874901
yeah, you're right, but at least he's trying

>> No.16874925
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>>16874883
>americans
>philosophers

>> No.16874926

>>16874910
he's just a pedagological sophist

>> No.16874937

>>16874883
>>16874899
Fuck off accfag

>> No.16874938

Habermas is still alive, guys

>> No.16874941
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>>16874847
He said philosopher

>>16874844
In a 1000 years, if we survive the next hundred, no one will talk about “the west” like this save for historians of the period.
The last truly impactful philosopher was Nietzsche. No one in particular shines as bright for all the 20th century.

>> No.16874946

>>16874926
Confirmed you're unfamiliar with his works.

>> No.16874947

Nick Land unironically

>> No.16874951

>>16874910
Zizek is great but he is more of just a spokesman for previous philosophers

>> No.16874954

>>16874951
His reading of Hegel through Lacan is quite insightful

>> No.16874957

>>16874941
With any luck norm is the answer to OPs question

>> No.16874958

Theodore Kaczynski (unironically)

>> No.16874959

>>16874883
Moldbug is a dead end

>> No.16874961

>>16874946
i read the whole "less than nothing"... interesting illustrations and critiques, but not a single original methodological newness

>> No.16874965

>>16874954
Lacan already based his works through Hegel

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>>16874958
Reactionaries are almost never remembered. If you aren't moving forward you will quickly be left behind.

>> No.16874977

>>16874972
> If you aren't moving forward you will quickly be left behind.

Maybe you haven't noticed but we are currently moving forward to the total collapse of our planet's ecosystem.

>> No.16874993

Nicky Landy
Mency Moldy

>> No.16875005

>>16874910
I think Slavoj is influential as a Hegel scholar but the majority of his books are more of a social commentary. He may release a magnum opus before death, I think he has it in him. As of right now he will certainly be remembered but not on the level of the greats.

>> No.16875009

>>16874961
>original methodological newness
Go
Back

>> No.16875019

>>16874844
my diary

>> No.16875025
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>>16874972
Every time I see the thumbnail for this image my brain first perceives it as a guy imitating the "The Chad Stride" pose

>> No.16875056

>>16875025
Your brain has been irreversibly corrupted by memes. I'm so sorry.

>> No.16875069

>>16875025
kek

>> No.16875148

>>16874977
>the total collapse of our planet's ecosystem.
nice meme

>> No.16875161

>>16874844
Alasdair MacIntyre
Jacques Ellul

>> No.16875164

>>16874977
>so the answer is LARPing we are in the dark ages

>> No.16875171

>>16875161
Wait Ellul is dead, scratch that

>> No.16875191

>>16874844
Donald Trump

>> No.16875196

me, once they dig up my diary

>> No.16875276

>>16874844
I have already written over 500 pages in under a year of a work of philosophy and have thorough outlines for a lot more that develops an absolute criterion of truth, an exhaustive metaphysics, a new concept of gravity, a complete 'key' to the riddle of greco-roman drama that has serious historical implications, a summary and critique of all the major philosophers, political or economic thinkers and so on. I truly believe I am writing the greatest work of philosophy that has ever been written. God has blessed me with immense knowledge. I am going to write it to completion and completely explicate the secrets of reality and die without publishing it in piety to God. Let him reveal what he has revealed. If my writings survive past my death I will be the most famous philosopher who ever lived.

>> No.16875283

>>16875276
Nice. Hacking your shit now. Will post later.

>> No.16875291

>>16874894
Moral pederast

>> No.16875307
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>>16874844

ONLY ONE MAN

>> No.16875348

Lukasiewicz for his modal logic theories and all the other logicians that built on it. Cause it's the only thing that will allow us to create an ultimate AI god, that in the end will going to award its daddies all awards it will think of.

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>>16875348
>Lukasiewicz for his modal logic theories and all the other logicians that built on it. Cause it's the only thing that will allow us to create an ultimate AI god

>> No.16875380

>>16875369
heh, pic with funny men having their mouth open ? Am I just being debunked like that right now :D ?? oh well lol, ya got me ehe :D

>> No.16875411

>>16874844
Richard Dawkins

>> No.16875472

>>16874844
There is only a handful of philosophers for whom that is true to begin with, I’d name Plato, Aristotle, Augustine, Aquinas, Descartes, Spinoza, Hume, and Kant. Even Hegel, Nietzsche, or Heidegger are not universal influences in philosophy, there are very much major philosophers who do philosophy outside their influence.

If there is a philosopher like there alive today it’s Alain Badiou and even then I’d give him a 1% of joining that club. One good reason for thinking it could be Badiou is that his major texts all have a timeless quality about them. Outside the introductions they avoid discussion of current debates, reference to current events, or even recent history. He wrote them in such a way that a reader 100 years from now would have no more (or less) difficult time reading them than a reader today.

All these reasons are exactly reasons why Zizek *won’t* be the guy. All his books, even his major philosophical works all include numerous references to movies, television, books, and current events that audiences in the far future will certainly not be familiar with. His biggest book, Less Than Nothing has a footnote discussing YuGiOh Cards, could you imagine the scholar in 500 years who is trying to annotate a readers addition and explain that?

>>16874938
Habermas won’t be a ‘influenced all subsequent philosophy’ but he absolutely will be in future textbooks.

And related to that, I think Robert Brandom has a shot at it. His major work is concentrated in a few major texts which helps, rather than scatter between dozens or hundreds of papers like every other analytical philosopher.

With both Brandom and Badiou I’m assuming that as time goes on opinion of their work moves from mostly bafflement to a recognition that they discovered something essential that everybody needs to write in relation to. Ironically that sort of thing is exactly the subject of Badiou’s thought and of course he sees himself as being an ‘evental’ figure.

>>16875276
Please show us.

>> No.16875483

>>16874844
Kant, Wittgenstein and Popper. Maybe some sociologists, psychologists or linguists who don't go full empirical
Besides that, what is there left to philosophize about?

>> No.16875492
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16875492

This guy, for this book.

>> No.16875512

If you're willing to haggle to died in the last 20 years and remembered 100 years from now I could give a few names.

>> No.16875519

>>16874972
How's that not moving forward?

>> No.16875528

I made my own logic language. Eat shit, pluralists will die

>> No.16875615

>>16874844
Peter Singer, not because he's the greatest but rather because things like bioethics and animal rights will become more important in the future.

>> No.16875619

>>16875512
Let’s say died in the last 50, so 1970 is the cutoff, and why they will be remembered in 300 years.

>> No.16875627

>>16875483
Okay, im willing to give you some wiggle room on Wittgenstein and popper, if you want to talk 1000 years, but Kant was more than 250 years ago my dude.

>> No.16875642

>>16875615
No it won't except derivatively. Any animal rights activist today is mostly a nut. I see thots on Twitter w green emoji save the world shit arguing that 1.2 terabyte data per month for a single person is too low. If Peter Singer had a message it would be instantly recognizable. He has nothing to say because nobody actually cares about any of their bs

>> No.16875669

>>16875642
Animal rights activists today are mostly nuts, yes, but that won't be the case in the future which is why there will be renewed interest in Singer's work.

>> No.16875684

>>16874844
Horia Belcea, of course.

>> No.16875686

>>16875669
His work doesn't do anything. You can't start w ethics (much less bioethics or we tf that's supposed to mean) to justify animal rights. It becomes some political party showdown

>> No.16875697

>>16875380
>oh well lol, ya got me ehe :D
Well you asked for it by bringing that gay ass "I love science" reddit trash here amigo

>> No.16875699

>>16874844
Derrida was the last great

>> No.16875718

>>16874972
>implying we haven’t been moving backwards for the last 50 years

>> No.16875733

>>16875369
Is there a single picture like this before 2005?

>> No.16875749

>>16874844
This will certainly be said about chan culture generally, so in a way, it's all of us.

>> No.16875947

The only correct answer to this question is Nick Bostrom.

>> No.16876019

>>16875276
is this a copy pasta?

>> No.16876041

>>16875697
I said "I love science" ? Or in any form implied it by the logic unknown to both god and me ? If only this general basedboy group knew ,that they have a godlike passive power of making people fume in the place where making people fume is the ultimate power one can have, they would abandoned their onions ways to enter the next level of being - replying to non scientific threads on 4chan, while simultaneously triggering all the lesser Kaczysnki shizos.

>> No.16876096
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16876096

assuming we as a species don't choose barbarism, Paul Cockshott.

>> No.16876159

>>16875699
the last great charlatan

>> No.16876166

>>16876096
He didn't respond to me ole cuckshott

>> No.16876167

>>16874844
The West will not even exist in 1000 years, nor will human civilization as a whole

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>>16874844
I know he is dead, but since he died just 4 years ago, I will say that Gustavo Bueno.
He created one of the most complete and powerful philosophical systems, philosophical materialism (philomat), and since his death his popularity and influence has just been increasing. I would go as far as to say he is the Kant of our era.
Another dead philosopher, but that died this year, who might be talked about in the future, is Sir Roger Scruton, whose work I think might be even more influential than Burke's.

>> No.16876189

>>16876167
why are you lying

>> No.16876202

>>16876166
Were you civil and used the appropriate channels? I emailed him a question with my .edu email address and he responded in about two days.

Regards,

>> No.16876204

>>16876188
I can't imagine having my 20's be in either 1810 or 1910 and being perfectly normalized to wearing a hat outdoors and a suit everywhere

>> No.16876211

>>16876202
I was civil but used the link an anon sent me. Chomsky didn't reply either from his email.

>> No.16876244

>>16876211
I used this william.cockshott@glasgow.ac.uk

>> No.16876276

>>16876244
It looks like he deleted my comment

>> No.16876279

>>16874893
Get out of here with that shitfuckery.

>>16874894
Chomsky got BTFO'd a long fucking time ago.

>> No.16876295

>>16876279
is there a serious critique of Nim Chimpsky's non-political work?

>> No.16876363

>>16876295
I had a screenshot from 2 years ago from here but lost my tablet

>> No.16876406

None. Philosophy is split into analytic and continental camps. There are probably living continentals (like Badiou) who could possibly influence all future continental philosophy as well as living analytics (like Nagel) who could possibly influence all future analytics. However, there is nobody alive who could be described as extremely influential in both analytic and continental philosophy, and I think that's going to be how the field develops for the next few centuries, at least.

>> No.16876772

Amartya Sen

>> No.16876815

>>16876295
I haven't seen a (serious) critique of his linguistics. Dudes called the father of modern linguistics for a damn reason

>> No.16876878

Well, I like Peter Sloterdijk and hope he gets more recognition.

>> No.16876896

>>16876406
Nah I got it figured out senpai plus analytic continentalism is a thing that's growing.

>> No.16876920

David benatar

>> No.16876934

>>16875307
Memes aside I can see Guenon being referenced in the future.

>> No.16876962

>>16874883
Moldbug is super derivative by his own admission.

>>16874844
Probably a lot of them if the industry of scholarship keeps growing. Just like we get PhD thesis on increasingly obscure ancient authors every year, our grandchildren might write papers about increasingly irrelevant figures from our time.

I think Kripke, Parfit and Habermas will be pretty legit choices all thing considered.

>> No.16876963

>>16876962
Fuck, I forgot Parfit is already dead. Pretty sad.

>> No.16876978

>>16874844
Zizek

>> No.16877537

>>16874972
Ah, yes I remember. What was it...
"The right side of history".
I laugh!

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16877568

This guy

>> No.16877595

>>16875191
This. When I read the Art of the Deal it helped develop me into a nimble navigator. I then started to stump and trigger SJWs bigly. I then moved on to The Donald’s more esoteric works and I learned how to play 4D chess in order to make great deals. Now I’m ready to save western civilization alongside my fellow based centipedes!

>> No.16877602

>>16874844
Molyneux

>> No.16877610

>>16875164
If you think this then you misunderstand Ted.

>> No.16877622

>>16875947
Only if the Silicon prophets achieve their dreams of creating a narcissistic artifcial god-abomination.

>> No.16877648

>>16874894

Most realistic answer thus far.

>> No.16877669

>>16875005
Hes got a set of more complex theoretical core works which will stay very influential i think.
The sublime object of ideology, The parallax view, and more recently sex and the failed absolute are all developments of the same system,
this idea of ontological incompleteness using a hegelian/lacanian framework.

>> No.16878680

>>16874844
me when i kill all the "philosophers" with my bare hands.

>> No.16878696

>>16875005
lmao I first read that you said that
>I think Slavoj is as influential as Hegel

>> No.16878700

>>16875718
*400

>> No.16880089

>>16874844
All trash.

>> No.16880217

elon musk / grimes / X Æ A-Xii triumvirate

>> No.16880277

>>16874844
>Which living philosophers will this be written about 1000 years from now?
If we colonise the solar system and the human population expands to hundreds of trillions, I expect all of them.

>> No.16880292

gerson and swinburne

>> No.16880303

Drain Gang will unironically influence philosophy for the next millennium

>> No.16880308

>>16880277
>just expand on giant rocks that can't support life lmao

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>>16874910

>> No.16880328

>>16875276
>If my writings survive past my death I will be the most famous philosopher who ever lived.

released NOW

>> No.16880346

>>16874910
lol

>> No.16880357

None. The last philosopher of any genuine worth was Heidegger.

>> No.16880358

>>16874844
Western philosophy ended with Heidegger

>> No.16880457

>>16880357
BASED BASED
BASED
also, Ted or Gustavo Bueno