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16986828 No.16986828 [Reply] [Original]

Anyone have any experience with the Freewrite? I'll admit, I want one, but the $500+ price tag does frighten me.

>> No.16986866

>>16986828
For me and many other people it's just a BIG waste of money on something useless.

>> No.16986870

Why is it so expensive? It seems like you can hack together a similar device for less than a 100

>> No.16986872

>>16986828
Just buy a used writing machine

>> No.16986889

>>16986870

Then why don't you?

That's the reason they can charge whatever they want.

>> No.16986894

>>16986870
jews

>> No.16986900
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16986900

I have an old typewriter which works fine why do you need this Zoomer bullshit

>> No.16986908

>>16986889
who said he didn't retard? he didn't claim he needed one either retard?

>> No.16986916

>>16986900

I don't want to bother with an ink ribbon subscription

>> No.16986942

>>16986828
Why not just write on a computer? Is it really that hard not to open your web browser for a few hours?

>> No.16986973

The absolute state of zoomers.

>> No.16987074

>>16986828
You can do it with an arduino + a keyboard + some display + some hard work and get it with half of the cost or just get those productivity programs and extensions for 0 cost.
Why would anyone buy this?

>> No.16987115

>>16986916
ja, $500+ is way better than replacing an ink ribbon every 3 years

>> No.16987174

>>16986828
>I j u s t bo ugh t the free wrtie
>write
>it seem s t o
>seems to w ork s
>work
>we l l
>th sis
>this is a test
WOW! I feel so productive! Garçon! Another soi latte, quick! Before I lose my inspiration! Now how do I save this draft?

>> No.16987210

>>16986828
Just use Emacs org-mode with writeroom-mode
>Cherry MX Browns
Yuck.

>> No.16987211

>>16986828
Ever heard of pen and paper?

fucking zoomers

>> No.16987221

>>16986828
Get an electric typewriter.

>> No.16987234

This is a meme, right?

>> No.16987253

>>16987234
No this is advertising. 4chan is exactly the kind of consumer fetishists with disposable income who would buy this shit

>> No.16987264

>>16987253
No, that'd be reddit. People here already pirate most books they read, why would they bother buying an overpriced keyboard?

>> No.16987326

>>16986828
I own one. I love it. I specifically write to sell stories and write on a schedule and it has helped me get in a good habit of consistent work and high word counts, plus it's fun to use. And also way more reliable than the Alphasmarts.

>> No.16987355

>>16986870
Even less probably. If you got a bit creative you could probably mcguiver something like it together for 50. Can't imagine it costing more than like 10 bucks to produce, at most.

>> No.16987478

>>16987211
Ever hear of chisel and stone?

>> No.16987482

>>16986872
Just buy a used laptop

>> No.16987506

>>16987264
>No, that'd be reddit.
Same demographic except Reddit probably has the sense not to buy one.
See >>16987326

>> No.16987509

>>16986828
>>16987326
how is writing on a mechanical keyboard even a good experience? try typing on a macbook with proper kbs and you will immediately know which is better for writing

>> No.16987540

>>16986828
can someone explain to me what this is? Looks interesting and like a fun diy project

>> No.16987566

>>16986828
What does this do that you can't do with a computer?

>> No.16987572

If you don't exclusively use a 2B pencil held in your fist to write on large sheets of off-white sugar paper then what the fuck are you even doing?

>> No.16987635

>>16987509
Mechanical keyboard is great for writing. I was a little weirded out at first because it had been forever since I'd used one, but the resistance on the keys pushes your fingers back up and help you type faster. I swear by them now.

>> No.16987650

>>16987540
Electronic typewriter essentially, with an e-ink screen and wifi to sync your work. It's supposed to be a drafting machine with no distractions, which includes editing.

>> No.16987656

>>16987572
>2B
Wrong. You should use HB graphite only.

>> No.16987707

>>16987650
By syncing does that mean transfer saved files from it to a computer? Are you able to save files locally? What file format does it save it as? Seems like this could be done with a $15 rasperry pi zero w and the cheapest epaper display you can find.

>> No.16987716

>>16987635
or: try the macbook keyboard, which has very tiny travel, yet still bounces back just fine

work = force * distance: if mechanical keyboards offer 10 times travel as macbook keyboards for similar force, you are putting in 10 times as much work into typing

>> No.16987737

>>16987707
>By syncing does that mean transfer saved files from it to a computer?
IIRC it's your choice between the 3 most popular botnet clouds

>> No.16987756

>>16987264
>People here already pirate most books they read
Books and mangá are literally the only types of media I don't pirate. I still think OP's machine is ridiculous.

>> No.16987893

>>16987756
fuck you stupid macaco

>> No.16988045

>>16987707
>>16987737
It syncs to the company's own free cloud service, which can then forward files to Dropbox, Evernote, etc.
Now, if they ever decide to start charging for their cloud service, or if the service goes under, then so much for that, I suppose, but you can still plug it into your computer and retrieve your files.

>> No.16988058

I would just use an old computer with Linux and Vi (Vim), that is it.

>> No.16989095

>>16986828
WHAT ARE YOU WRITING THIS ON, NIGGER? NOT A PHONE, I HOPE, YOU WOULDN'T BE THAT MUCH OF A FAG, RIGHT? THEN YOU ALREADY HAVE AN ADEQUATE INSTRUMENT OF WRITING. JUST START WRITING FUCKER. JUST DO IT.

>> No.16989313

>>16986828
Get a USB keyboard you actually like and use an adapter to connect it to your phone if youwant to use a small display

>> No.16989451

>>16987716
I use a MacBook for work. I still like the feel of a mechanical keyboard if I'm going to be typing for an hour. Maybe it does require more force, but it feels like my fingers are flying across the keys. It really gets me into a rhythm. When I use a regular keyboard, that's when my fingers get tired.

>> No.16989779

>>16987174
lol'd

>> No.16989890

>>16986828
I bought one for $200 off of eBay. If you’re the kind of person who has severe ADHD then this thing is a lifesaver. Otherwise I’m not sure how much use you would get out of it.
Of course a word processor will fill that same role just as well. However, on a personal note I think Alphasmarts are an eyesore. If I’m going to go Melville mode and lock myself in a room to write with no distractions I might as well splurge a little
That being said I would never in a million years pay sticker price for one. You can find them for at least half off on eBay

>> No.16990120

>>16989890
>$200 off of eBay

How? The cheapest I've seen them go form on eBay is 300

>> No.16990127

it is an absolute meme. if you're such an addlebrained faggot that you can't just write on a laptop like a normal human without being "distracted" then you're not capable of writing anything worth a shit anyway.

>> No.16990135

I just use a shitty old laptop that is not connected to the internet and has no programs outside of what is needed to write.

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16990277

>>16986828
This is bullshit but I'm keen to see what e-ink displays get up to in the nest few years.

>> No.16990291

>>16990120
If the buyer allows it you can make a best offer
>>16990135
Also a good option

>> No.16990436

>>16990127

Listen, George Martin literally writes on a DOS machine running WordStart 4.0

It's literally the only thing he says that he can write fiction on. So I don't think you're right in saying that someone can be too autistic in their choice of writing machine to be a real writer.

>> No.16990498

>>16987355
I've seen several plans for combining a cheap ereader with bluetooth with a keyboard, some even fit in standard keyboard cases.

>> No.16990681

>>16990436
probably because he's just used to it, i doubt he specifically went out of his way to write on such a machine after it went out of fashion. also he's a genre hack lol

>> No.16990688

>>16990436
You are not considering that the DOS machine running WordStart 4.0 was probably the most normal thing to write on at the point in time where he bought it. People sticking to obsolete or inefficient tools out of decades of habit is not the same thing as buying the retarded shit in the OP.
If Cormac McCarthy started writing today he'd probably just use a computer like normal people did when they bought typewriters back in the day.
I have never seen a competent person fetishize tools, unless it was for marketing/image purposes or out of decades of ingrained habit.

>> No.16990694

>>16990277
God I love baroque so much

>> No.16990705

>>16986828
gay cringe and retarded

you evidently have a fucking computer since you're posting here. unless you are a poorfag phoneposter in which case take that $500 and get yourself a decent secondhand PC

>> No.16990707

>>16989890
Can you really not use one of the million distraction free editors available, or distraction-free modes for currently existing editors? What prevents you from playing with your phone while you use your memewriter? If you are really this retarded you could also make a separate user on your machine where you only have your text editor available and no internet connection.

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16990769

>>16987174

>> No.16990782

>>16986828
buy a cheap laptop + buy a decent keyboard + install emacs + olivetti mode + unplug your router

>> No.16991359

>>16990127
I agree to a point. It is not something you should need to rely on, and you should be able to write without it, but the level of immersion in your writing while losing it is not a meme. It helped me double my word count. So it is a good training tool, in a way. I say buy it, learn to focus with it, then well it when you don't need it anymore. Someone will always be wanting one.

>> No.16991377

>>16991359
>It helped me double my word count.
Yeah you now type all those additional posts in praise of the memewriter

>> No.16991395

>>16989890
>If you’re the kind of person who has severe ADHD then this thing is a lifesaver.
I don't understand. If you're using this thing at home your computer and phone and TV and dick will still be right there to distract you. What's the difference between using this and typing on your computer? Or what's the difference between using this and typing on a typewriter or writing by hand? What makes this device so "distraction-free" when you can just as easily be distracted by your phone or computer as when you were writing on your computer?
When I was struggling with getting distracted I would drive to a remote area with my laptop and just sit in the back seat and write. Why do you need this autism.

>> No.16991481

>>16987566
instant word processor without start ups, no lag because of no OS. People forget tools like these can be useful by the virtue of it being a singular purpose which means less complexity and moving parts. I would also imagine carrying this around has days if not weeks of battery life. People saying "bruh a computer does the same thing" No shit cunt but do I really want a blaringly bright screen? Do I want only 4 hours of battery life? Do I want to carry around a brick the whole time? I could go on and on.

Saying that a computer can do it is completely missing the point of its use.

>> No.16991540

>>16990277
God i hate baroque so much

>> No.16991542

>>16987174
haha. the
>Garçon!
makes it.

>> No.16991549

>>16991395
Owning one, I will say I take it to any room in the house and pretty much just focus. No shit I have my phone and the rest of life around to potentially distract me, but it's like setting the tone. It's like having a specific room or place to do work so you are in work mode.

>> No.16991554

if you cannot just fire up google docs and get writing you’re never gonna make it. have fun with your tard gadget

>> No.16991577

just get a thinkpad with emacs you consoomer whore

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16992196

>>16991577
Unwaveringly based.

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16992338

>>16991577
vim > emacs

>> No.16992415

>>16992338
I run Xubuntu and I just use Pyroom and FocusWriter. What's up with vim?

>> No.16992519

>>16991577
>buy my neckbeard certified consoomer product instead of that consoomer product you dumb consoomer

>> No.16992588

>>16992415
Without memeing about it, it's very straightforward and relatively easy to learn despite being extremely powerful, and has a huge collection of addons to further personalize it. Emacs is more of a swiss knife with a steeper learning curve that is not worth it if all you will do is write. Vim is a pure text editor with functionalities attached.
I can't really explain it but Vim/Emacs are things that once you get in, you won't get out.

>> No.16992598

>>16991577
holy...BASED

>> No.16992683

>>16992588
Interesting, though isn't it more for programmers? If I already use a stripped-down app to draft, is there really any point in using it? Reading up on it now.

>> No.16992722

>>16992683
>Interesting, though isn't it more for programmers?
technically yes, it's programmer-oriented, but that just means it's a really powerful text editor.
an example is that if you have a character named John and you want to change that name to Brian across your whole novel, you can type :%s/John/Brian and that will be done in a second.
It has a spell checker, Markdown support, it's very powerful. All you need is just markdown. I went a long way with pathogen plus vimwiki or pandoc. You have to do a little bit of learning, but it's something like a few hours of dedicated work for a lot of benefit. I would never change editor except maybe Emacs, but Emacs is so huge I simply don't need it.

>> No.16992804

>>16992722
I'll have to look into it more, not sure why I wouldn't just use LibreOffice.

>> No.16992819

>>16992804
Nothing wrong with using a more traditional document editor. Vim is just pure text and markdown covers most of what you will have to do if you're writing prose or fiction.

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16992903

I'm working on a similar project. Found an old TRS I'm going to tinker on it.

>> No.16993278

I will admit, I like the way it looks, but I would consider even 300 bucks to be too much. I can't fathom how any justifies a 575 dollar price tag.

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>>16986828
Hm, no way staying hunched over like an ape for hours in the same position looking at a small display could ever cause back and MS disorders nope. Good buy.

>> No.16993644

>>16986828
>Buying specific hardware or software to write.
I will literally never understand this. Fifty shades of grey is the best selling book of the decade and it was written on an iPhone.

>> No.16993731

>>16993609
You dumbass. Do you really think you have to stay hunched over looking at the words you type? Do you really think you have to look closely at the words that are already coming out of your head?

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16993766

>>16992519
>emacs
>consoomer product

>> No.16993789

>>16993731
Why even include a screen then genius?
Do you never reread what you write in parts and in whole to check if it actually works well?

>> No.16993818

>>16993789
Yes, but I'm not hunched over the goddamn thing like a troll. I lean back and look at the sky while I'm writing. Sometimes I close my eyes. My gaze isn't on the screen the whole entire time. Even then, it's not like you have to hunch over to see what you're writing, unless your eyesight is really just that bad. It's actually more comfortable to use than a laptop.

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16993873

>>16993818
Sounds like a hard cope for a product that legitimately a worse option than a similarly priced computer setup with software to deal with distractions.

Using this on a table would be shit, using this on your lap would be shit. You bought the Juicero of writing.
> I lean back and look at the sky while I'm writing.
lol

>> No.16993908

>>16993873
Then why have I used it both on my lap and a table just fine? It's better in your lap than a laptop as well. Sorry anon, I'm not gonna convince you, it's kind of a retarded toy but it's pleasant to use and it is a great experience to write on.

>> No.16993924

>>16993908
Whelp, that's fair if you like it.
There's objectively no way to use it without shitty posture at significant intervals though, which develop back, shoulder and neck issues over time.

>> No.16993925

I bought a raspberry pi for $70 and use that as my writing computer

It's portable, durable, and modular (use your own ordinary kb/mouse/monitor or buy some cheap peripheral ones). I can put it anywhere I can set up a monitor or tablet-sized mini monitor. I blocked timewaste shit like 4chan on it. Works fine. Just get a horrendous faggot's novelty typewriter keyboard if you really want some authentic Hemingway experience of penning fart letters to your husbando.

>> No.16993937

>>16987478
Ever hear of oral tradition? JFL at all those written language cucks. lmao how bad is your memory that you need to write shit down?

>> No.16993942

>>16993924
>There's objectively no way to use it without shitty posture at significant intervals though, which develop back, shoulder and neck issues over time.
I still think you're getting on this too much.
It's no more than it would be using a laptop. Yes, the screen is less than a 45 degree angle. No, you don't have to look at it directly. I sit straight or recline back when using it.

>> No.16993956

>>16986942
>he doesn’t draft online
Suit yourself my whole writing process takes place in the browser.

>> No.16993963

>>16987174
kek

>> No.16993968

>>16986828
>I want one
why?

>> No.16994044

Seems like this would function better and is significantly less
https://pine64.com/product/pinetab-10-1-linux-tablet-with-detached-backlit-keyboard/?v=0446c16e2e66

>> No.16994055

>>16993942
I mean, you ought not be using a laptop as your main writing implement either, but it's still better posture wise.
It's alright if you like to use it I just don't understand why the screen is so tiny and not adjustable at that price point. If the activity it was used for was just for a few minutes at most ergonomic design wouldn't matter but writing usually happens in instances of a few hours at a time.
It's proposition as a main writing implement to me seems absurd, since it looks optimized for portability, but hey, I'm probably not the target demographic.

If you find that you like using it, you ought to disregard what I'm saying, please.

>> No.16994104

>>16994055
My laptop is my main computer, unless you are insinuating handwriting for your first drafts.
I churn out stories on Amazon, so the ability to crank out a story and have it backed up without even needing to think about it is appreciated.

The screen being tiny is really a non-issue. You only need to see what you're immediately typing, and you can change the font size. It has a frontlight, too. It's not meant for editing, just for the first draft.

Seeing as I got it to help me produce more for my writing business, it has definitely been valuable.

>> No.16994158

>>16994104
The ideal writing implement would be a desktop. My analysis is for the ergonomics of the product, not what your particular needs might be feature wise. The screen being tiny is an issue of how your neck needs to be positioned to actually read on the thing.

What I'm asking you is: can you conceive that you might have gotten the same benefit from a product that has the same features but a larger and adjustable screen? Yes, obviously. Hence why what I'm doing is being critical, not contrarian.

>> No.16994180

>>16986828
I can see the benefit in one of these, for the sole reason that it is not connected to the internet. But the tech is of such low quality, with a TI-86 calculator tier screen and very limited tooling for a word processor and a primitive user interface. Also that price point is insulting.

>> No.16994194

>>16994158
>having a desktop in 2020

for what purpose. i kinda need one for music production but still get away with my laptop and i guess some STEM autists might need one for their jobs. but most people don't. i shiggy hope you ain't a fucking gamer either.

>> No.16994203

>>16994158
>The screen being tiny is an issue of how your neck needs to be positioned to actually read on the thing.
I don't think you're really understanding how you see the screen when you use it. You don't need to be hunched over it.

>> No.16994217

>>16994194
Same reason as previously, ergonomics. If you want to make sure you have good posture (which means a posture that doesn't fuck your body over time) you need to be able to adjust position of the components of the work station. A laptop just can't offer that.

>> No.16994236

>>16994203
Like you don't need to be hunched when browsing reddit on your smartphone but this specifically is a large cause of back issues in young people.

>> No.16994242

>>16994236
not the reddit part mind you that's just people I disagree with.

>> No.16994267

>>16994194
>>16994217
I haven't had a desktop since 2006.

>>16994236
Sounds like I'm gonna have a hunched back if I'm a writer no matter what.

>> No.16994274

>>16994217
When I was a fat piece of shit I started having neck pain associated with bad posture so got a USB keyboard and adjusted my laptop to various distances and heights with boxes and books until I could write with a good posture. It seemed to work, but the real problem was that I was a sedentary piece of shit.

I've been lifting for a few years now and my posture is naturally just good now for the most part, and having my head tilted down a little "too much" for hours doesn't bother me anymore. Ergonomics is a meme, the real problem with posture is people having suboptimal posture when they use computers *and* having fucked up imbalanced muscles and the poor habits away from the desk that come from never exercising. DYELs lose at life once again.

>> No.16994300

>>16994274
Haha yeah no one actually studies back problems it's a mystery to everyone why they occur.

>> No.16994320

>>16994267
Well that's you, not sure whether that nulls my criticism or what.

>> No.16994355

>>16986828
buy an old thinkpad and install a lightwieght linux distro on it. The keyboards on classic thinkpads are fantastic to type on.

>> No.16994391

>>16994300
I'm not saying those studies are wrong, I'm just saying that if everyone involved (subjects and researchers alike) in ergonomics research was a beefy chad or varbie, the results would be different. It's not controversial to say that physical fitness make a person resilient, but the problem is that most people do not just know how much *more* resilient.

Imagine for example fat doctors. They know that gym rats generally experience less health problems (except the roidtards and meme lifters with bad form) but they are still personally fat. Why? Because they don't really know that much about the subject unless they specialize in sports medicine so they have no internalized just how hard they are fucking up by not lifting weights. Incidentally, most sports physicians lift barbells. Research does not control for whether or not all the subjects are hench. In general the mainstream from normies to doctors have a very low bar for what minimum "fitness" actually means, so as a result they think people who do not lift are "normal" people when in fact, given today's knowledge, they are in horrible shape.

A lot of research is hampered by being full of people with poor and highly variable fitness who merely meet the trash minimum.

>> No.16994417

>>16994391
No that's not accurate a lot of data was created from military population sets.

>> No.16994434

>>16991540
Because you are jewish in spirit

>> No.16994439

>>16994417
and much of the military is in dogshit shape and doesn't lift either. only a tiny portion of a modern military is combat arms, the rest are POGs who do a handful of shitty pushups here and there and go for runs in the morning for the most part. they may have an overall higher level of fitness but it's still not good.

point being, if research is to to be used to find a solution to a problem, then measuring the "average" person who meets shitty fitness requirements may be counterproductive. instead, you could just measure a large pool of people who have impressive muscles and low BF% and then realize
>oh yeah wait nevermind, you just need to lift fucking weights faggot

>> No.16994441

>>16986828
Get an old thinkpad like an x200 or x220
Much better

>> No.16994461

The Freewrite exists as a means to help struggling writers get past their addictions to internet browsing, social media, 4chan, etc.

My advice, instead, is to practice longhand writing for at least an hour prior to using your regular laptop/PC device so as to prep your mind for writing work without having immediate access to the temptations that lead you astray.

The Freewrite is offering a placebo solution to a problem that won't go away. So long as your source of addiction and/or distraction exists, you will inevitably put the thing aside to get back to your usual bad habits. Find an isolated space that is physically removed from your cellphone and other means of internet access; write even when it's tedious and boring; acclimate your mind and even your body to these rituals and you will acquire greater focus moving forward.

TL;DR Freewrite is an overpriced piece of shit appealing to an insecure market. Don't do it, use paper and pen.

>> No.16994464

>>16994439
Not that lifting ever causes long term back problems either, right? No need to adopt the correct POSTURE when lifting, since muscles will save you everytime.

>> No.16994465

>>16986828
Pointless device. Everyone has a computer, just use a word processor ffs.

>> No.16994474

>>16994461
The problem with longhand is I have to transcribe it later. I publish a 4,000-10,000 word story every week. Having to re-type it all over again is a timesink, and time is money.

>> No.16994476

>>16994464
i mentioned proper form in my post already. that has nothing to do with the ergonomics of using a computer.

>> No.16994484

>>16986870
I wouldn't pay more than $100 for one. Anyone who does is a literal simp. These people are living high o

>> No.16994499

>>16994484

A good eink screen is gonna run you at least 75 dollars for JUST the screen.

>> No.16994503

>>16994484
Metal body, e-ink screen, and frontlight add up the production costs, anon.

>> No.16994505

>>16994476
So you're admitting that proper form when doing repetitive movements is important but it can't be important with static postures? Why?

>> No.16994520

>>16994474
>Having to re-type it all over again is a timesink
It could also be your means of editing. But, fine--instead of the Freewrite, use Jonathan Franzen's method of removing/disconnecting his network card in his laptop before he writes. Maybe not take the extra step of locking yourself inside a dark basement and wearing earmuffs, but we all have our systems. I still maintain my point that devices of this nature are predatory and find their niche by exploiting the paranoias and insecurities of their targeted market. Writers, of all people, should be more apprehensive of this. Cynicism is part of the trade.

>> No.16994554

>>16994505
Because the latter is an absolute non-issue if you are otherwise in great shape and is only a problem for people who are halfway fucked up to begin with.

It is like comparing a brand new 4runner with a shitty 10 year old sedan. The 4runner drives across a bunch of potholes and is fine because it's a beast. The sedan drives over the potholes and gets trashed. So then a bunch of research comes out that says that the sedan driver needs to do x, y, and z so it won't get destroyed by potholes.

But the real problem the entire time was that the sedan driver should just get a fucking 4runner and not worry about it.

>> No.16994573

>>16994520
But anon... it's fun to write on. I look forward to using it.
Anyway, i bought it used and it's already paid itself back, I'mma keep using it until my needs differ.

>> No.16994621
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16994621

fuck the faggot hipster shit get a pomera dm30

>> No.16994622

>>16994554
You're acting like researchers haven't thought to look at fitness in studies but it's a major factor. It just doesn't insulate you from risk if your working posture is shit.
Like bud, this isn't new.

>> No.16994692

>>16994622
You're missing the point. I'm not saying very fit people can get away with awful shit posture, I'm saying that 1) they naturally have less shitty posture to begin with because they don't have the muscle imbalances that cause incel neck etc. because they've already addressed these issues and 2) even if they have some minor bad habits (such as me looking down slightly at my laptop screen when it should be a few inches higher), it's not going to be nearly as bad as somebody who isn't "very" fit, "very" defined here as let's say the top ~5% of the population because most people, even weightlifters, are not close to their genetic potential.

tl;dr sitting posture is important but fitness is much more important and if you're in shape, having a laptop sitting on a desk and looking down a bit isn't going to be the end of the world. research is flawed because mainstream medicine normalizes trash standards of fitness.

>> No.16994697

What's a good word processor?

Been looking at Scrivener

>> No.16994714
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>>16986866
This. Just buy a chromebook or something for half the price.
>but all the distractions!
If YouTube and 4chan were gonna stop you from writing the next Don Quixote then you were ngmi in the first place.

>> No.16994747

>>16994714
I've done a ton of writing on my phone with a BT keyboard. Phones have relatively large screens today and the keyboard is just as mushy as it is on a laptop. I made it sync with my linux desktop where I could pick up the file when I was at home.
There is literally no reason to spend money for >>16994621 or other shitty obsolete devices.

>> No.16994763

>>16994692
Your points is or was that ergonomics isn't required if you lift.
No researcher in Biomechanics ever pretends that physical fitness doesn't impact the rate of disorders, it's the opposite actually.
The goal of ergonomic design is to reduce incidence of problems in general.
To return to the actual subject of the design of the item, if a guy wants to use it without needless risk of injury on the long term, he has to lift 6 hours a week instead of just having a properly designed item to begin with.

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>>16994763
>No researcher in Biomechanics ever pretends that physical fitness doesn't impact the rate of disorders, it's the opposite actually.

see

>research is flawed because mainstream medicine normalizes trash standards of fitness.

i'm don't intend to imply that i'm familiar with this research, but given my limited experiences with weightlifting, reading about sports medicine, and seeing what mainstream medicine considers "fit", I'm highly skeptical that they specifically study people who are near their genetic potential. this is a very important distinction, because the difference between what is considered "fit" by government and medical institutions versus what is actually fit is night and day. if you have something I can read where they have make it a point to keep people who look like pic related in mind, I am open to checking it out. but I have never seen anything like this, everything I have read thus far does not keep such people in mind which seems absurd because if you want to know how to solve a problem, it seems that you should first look to people who are less susceptible to that problem. somebody who runs a half hour every other day and does calisthenics, which is what medicine often considers "good enough" to be fit, is not practicing the most efficient and healthy approach to fitness that will make them less prone to injury.

>> No.16995004

>>16991481
Okay a pen and paper can fulfill the same purpose and costs $6 and will never run out of 'battery' just more paper and more ink.

>> No.16995076

>>16995004
Transposing.

>> No.16995097

>>16986889
>why don't you
because it's fucking retarded

>> No.16995104

>>16995097
>scamming s*ys with a $500 meme machine is retarded

if I did it, it would be class warfare. the niggers who buy this shit deserved to be scammed.

>> No.16995127

>>16986828
Yeah that's too expensive. Try coldturkeywriter? If you have a laptop you're essentially turning it into a freewrite b using that software.

>> No.16995177

>>16991481
>no lag because of no OS
>less complexity and moving parts
>I would also imagine carrying this around
>days if not weeks of battery life
>Do I want to carry around a brick the whole time?
You never leave the house. If you did, you'd have a power bank or two for your devices, which you wouldn't do without anyway. You complain about carrying a brick yet this thing is like a fucking suitcase lol
yes e-ink screens are better than computer screens, but you will have screen lag with those
you are literally bending yourself over backwards for the sake of justifying a 600$ toy

>> No.16995223

>>16987253
no you just want this place to be reddit and hope spamming shit will make it so. this is what boards get flooded and ruined for, to homogenize the site enough to be able to sell useless bullshit like this here. it won't work though, you'll still just be appealing to the same pool of reddit-like users, except you will have made the board palatable for them to hang out here. it's a totally misguided exercise in pointless cultural violence.

>> No.16995256

>>16995223
4chan is full of astroturfing

>> No.16995258

>>16995127
But anon it wouldn't have
>e-ink screen that's easy on the eyes
>tactile, clacky keys
>sweet aesthetic

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>>16995177
>You complain about carrying a brick yet this thing is like a fucking suitcase lol
There's a portable version now, too. :)

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>>16995258
i use Q10 in my thinkpad (kinda hard to see the status bar in this wiki screenshot)

http://www.baara.com/q10/

>kinda like notepad in dark mode. black screen with orange text
>always opens with whatever you were last working on already loaded
>makes clicky clacky typewriter noises
>does actually have some other features like spellcheck, autosaving, tweaks you can make on how to measure page/paragraph/wordcount whatever but i rarely use them

it is a pretty nice and minimal text editor and the typewriter noise might be cheesy but it has grown on me and is still less gay than paying $600 for a reddit machine

>> No.16995367

>>16986828
why not just buy a cheap laptop and rip out the wifi card

>> No.16995460

>>16995354
I've messed around with Q10 before. Back before the Freewrite came out, I was messing around with OmmWriter, FocusWriter, and Darkroom. All are kind of neat. I'm on Linux now and still use FocusWriter for notes.

Didn't even care about this shit until I had a friend who was basically female Waldun. She showed Ommwriter to me and I thought it was neat, then I became kind of obsessed. And then I bought a Freewrite.

>> No.16995464

>>16995278
LMAO why that screen, like
if you have to use a phone screen at this point you could use a phone
by the way you can install a terminal emulator on your phone and use Vim or Emacs on it, then sync it without stupid middleman shartware to an actual computer for when you're home.
w/e buy product

>> No.16995474
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16995474

>>16995367
>heh, you don't understand. i'm totally going to be in an austere situation like camping in the woods and write my mangum opus among the trees like a modern lewis and clark or one of those cool 20th century war correspondents

>> No.16995477

>>16995464
E-ink > glowy screen.

>> No.16995686

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p6OdqWnAWU&ab_channel=ivosenden

>> No.16995818

>>16986916
>a $10 ribbon is too much work
Nigger what

>> No.16995902

>>16995818
Hey you know what the shitty thing about a typewriter is?
You still have to transcribe.

>> No.16996073

>>16995477
you are staring hours upon hours on a glowy screen anyway, install a red light filter
your meme screen will have to be backlit anyway
I don't even know why I argue when I know this is not a rational conversation, consoomers will consoom

>> No.16996125

>>16996073
Not him but red light filter is the real meme. Eink screen can also be front lit and why not? But in the end that doesn't justify the price or the effort of getting another device beside your current laptop.

>> No.16996132

I don't understand this generation. Why do they need distraction free writing tools? If they are easily distracted, then they are not inspired. If they are not inspired, they should not be writing. If they are not writing, they might as well be distracted, and if they are distracted, they might be inspired.
I derive inspiration from everything I do, be it watching movies, listening to music, or walking down the street lost in my thoughts. I suppose I can just see the God in everything.

>> No.16996143

>>16986828
download openoffice retard

>> No.16996159

>>16995902
you are now aware that you can scan the paper to your computer to pdf format, then use OCR to convert it into a fully editable text document

>> No.16996168

>>16996159
There's always errors.
I publish a story a week, I don't have time for that shit.

>> No.16996175

>>16996132
Starting to feel like /lit/izens are a little full of themselves

>> No.16996187

>>16996168
>I don't have time for that shit.
you should probably work on a decent text editor on an actual computer then because it's way more efficient

>> No.16996285

>>16996168
>there’s always errors
There’s a lot of bullshit I’m willing to put up with to save $500, especially on something frivolous. But if you’re an actual writer with that kind of output, you buying one of these nifty toys is a lot less frivolous

>> No.16996338

Imagine being such a consumerist pseud you buy a completely useless item so you can LARP as an author from a few decades back.

Download FocusWriter and enable typewriter sounds, save yourself the money.

>> No.16996900

>>16986828
wow this is retarded. just buy a fucking journal if you really can't muster the self-control necessary to not waste time on your computer.

>> No.16996995

>>16996338
I like Focuswriter but but typewriter sounds are fucking grating.

>> No.16997015

>>16996168
>I publish a story a week, I don't have time to scan some papers, press a button to OCR them, then proofread the results

it would take like 5 minutes plus the proofreading time and OCR is not that inaccurate. not that I'm arguing in favor of typewriters but I would literally rather do that than deal with a onions machine

>> No.16997043

>>16997015
The last time I used OCR I had so many errors to clean up I could not see it being worth it when I can just start electronically to begin with. Then again, the last time I used it was fifteen years ago.

>> No.16997210

>>16997043
Kill yourself.

>> No.16997309

>>16997210
Don't say things like that.

>> No.16997355

>>16997309
Get a load of this faggot.

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>>16991377

>> No.16997639

>>16986828
why cant you get a cheap computer with no internet connection and install ubuntu or smth?

>> No.16997676

>>16990694
>>16991540
Based.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bwOnDp5z1Q

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>>16991377
More words than you, I bet, faggot.

>> No.16997962

get an alphasmart instead or a t60

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>>16994194
ergonomics and longevity

>> No.16998026

>>16995278
>fox over the lazy dog
Subtle kek there

>> No.16998071

>>16994714
yes, if you cant will yourself away from the distractions you have available now you will find new ones with your 500 dollar type writer

>> No.16998100

>>16997962
Lost data on an Alphasmart three times in a year. Last time was puzzlingc it already had a new battery. I just wrote a bunch of shit and then got home and there was some sort of error and I had to hard reset and clear all my data. Never again.

>> No.16998165

>>16990436
That actually explains a lot about GRRM

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>>16986828
You know, as a writer, if you took away my paper, I would write on my heart. If you take away my ink, I'd write on the wind... It wouldn't be an ideal way to work.

>> No.16998791

>>16986828
Just use Adderal like any other academic/writer

>> No.16999257

>>16997821
absolutely seething lel

>> No.16999350

>>16986828
this wont make you a good writer

>> No.16999766

>>16999350
What if you're already a good writer and you want it?

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16999842

>pay absurd amount of money to not be distracted by cyberspace
actually depressing state of mind

>> No.17000837

>>16986916
Ink ribbons last a very long time.

>>16986828
It's almost the absolute worst in terms of ergonomics there, so you're either going to not use it or develop pain or injury somewhere, likely either forearms or neck.