/lit/ - Literature

>>17027953
i exist; i can reply to this disappointing thread

>>17027953
I just assert existence is all there is and I can say what I exist even if the framework isn't the best. I could also work through exactly what a division entails exactly and work down from there but I'm not there yet.

Either way you would have to prove that non-existence can exist which is a taller bargain.

>>17027953
Inference to best explanation, Moorean shift

>>17027953
Imagine sincerely believing in solipsism and still posting on 4chan

>>17027953
Prove in what sense? Mathematically, you can count my units with various measurements. Because I am interpretable with scientific instruments, I exist. Put me on a scale, test the Hight, examine the blood cells. I have no idea what could prove it more then this

>>17027953
*pokes myself*
I have empirically verified my existence, therefore I am.

>>17027990
Based, OP btfo

>>17027953
>Prove your existence
I post on 4chan, therefore I am

>>17027973
>>17027994
>>17027999
>Using "I" before you prove the existence of I
>>>/r/eddit

>>17027953
I feel alive

>>17028015
You said you and you're but good point

>>17028015
>>Using "I" before you prove the existence of I
only a conscious 'I' can posit the I, rocks don't posit things

>>17028015
You are a brainlet acting like he's smart. Cringe.

>>17027953
>Prove your existence
What's your endgame here?

>>17027953
I don't exist

>>17027953
I COOM ergo je suis

>>17028119

i get (you)s therefore people acknowledge my being therefore i exist

>>17027953
I am a disciple of the prophet Muhammad. If you deny my existence you deny Muhammad.

>>17027953
What do you mean by prove? It is self-evident that I'm aggregates of everything that I want and that I have always been.

>>17028079
You're assuming that consciousness is an "I"
Consciousness is just a phenomenon, there is no identity present in it

>>17027953
If I did not exist then it follows my descendants will not exist. Given that descendants will multiply exponentially, the chance that one of your descendants has me as an ancestor approaches one. Hence if they exist, I exist. Since you exist, your descendants exist. Therefore I exist, QED.

>>17027953
I make a measurable impact on people I know in real life in a multitude of ways

>>17027953
dogs exists... me see them... me exists then... If not... How i see dogs? Refute this original poster,

>>17027953
It feels as though I have existence, i don't pretend to fully understand the nature of my state of being, but all of my actions and my thoughts subsist under the precognition of existence. Therefore, either I exist, or I have the qualities of what we consider existence and I act and feel as though I exist. Nothing changes either way.

>>17027953
I don't care about empirical evidence of my existence. I feel like i do, thus i do.

>voices demanding I prove myself to them again

Stop.

>>17028275
>Consciousness is just a phenomenon, there is no identity present in it
Consciousness by virtue of being aware of things naturally posses its own identity as a sentient thing, this distinguishes it from insentient things

>>17027953
My existence is self evident and no amount of language games will make me say otherwise

>>17027953
>just do

i don't need to prove shit to you

I *do not* exist.

>>17027953
if i dont exist then who is this question being posed to?

>>17028357
For something to be self evident, there must be a self, so your argument is circular.
>>17028360
Just do what?
>>17028361
You must prove this to yourself (assuming you are)
>>17028370
Prove it
>>17028425
The ether

>>17028513
>Just do what?
i do doing for a living

>>17027953
>Prove your existence without referencing another philosopher, or you're pic related.
You just referred to me as a "you", you already did it for me.

>>17027953
I exist because a large and varied test groups of humans, non-humans and objects consistently react to me and my actions.

>>17027953
nothing can be proven, nor is proof the determinor of anything. my intuition paints the nebulus picture in my mind that there is a way that things are, and that somewhere within all that, what i call "I", "is"

>>17028513
>Prove it
I just did.

>>17027953
no such existence can be proved since the concept of 'I' nonsense hence can not be said