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>>17068744
Technology did this

he should have tried meeting other girls, maybe he could have met a nice botanist or entomologist

>>17068744
the classic autism and npd duo strikes again

What the FUCK was his problem?

why do people like that exist

>>17068744
literally me...

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>>17068770
Now I see why /lit/ loves this autist and his schizo rambling so much, they literally see themselves in him

>>17068774
yeah, w*men are an enigma

Another case of “what zero pussy does to a mf”

>>17068770
>hurts innocent doggerinos
fuck him

>squirmed instead of hugging back
Oh wow, something that literally every kid does when their stinky ass uncles try to give them a kiss is now a symptom of psychopathy
Jesus Christ these people will go through your entire fucking life story and reinterpret everything to fit the narrative

>>17068770
Any books on how dogs can sense the good and evil in people ?

I highly doubt any of that is true

>"In the summer after his fourth year, [Ted] describes experiencing a period of several weeks where he was sexually excited nearly all the time and was fantasizing himself as a woman and being unable to obtain any sexual relief. He decided to make an effort to have a sex change operation. When he returned to the University of Michigan he made an appointment to see a psychiatrist to be examined to determine if the sex change would be good for him. [...] As he was sitting in the waiting room, he turned completely against the idea of the operation and thus, when he saw the doctor, instead claimed he was depressed about the possibility of being drafted. He describes the following, "As I walked away from the building afterwards, I felt disgusted about what my uncontrolled sexual cravings had almost led me to do and I felt humiliated, and I violently hated the psychiatrist."

>Ted's thoughts on modern men from his Montana journal: "What every woman wants is a Man, with a capital M. In other words, a man who has balls, not merely in the literal sense but also in the figurative sense. In Western culture, a woman's ideal has traditionally been "a knight in shining armor." [...] But the knight in shining armor no longer exists in Europe. The samurai has disappeared from Japan. The fierce nomad no longer rides across the Eurasian steppe. [...] And who has replaced these true Men? Behold modern man (small m): He sits all day on his fat bottom, punching keys on a computer. Terrified of losing the "job" on which he is helplessly dependent, he cringes before his boss, invents petty subterfuges and little lies to conceal his errors and his trivial misdeeds. There are no true Men left; or rather, such true Men as remain are in prison. [...] Is it any wonder that feminist[s] have lost respect for men? Or that they resent men for failing to be Men after whom (however vehemently they deny it) their hearts yearn?"

>>17068790
I meant Ted
>>17068795
there are other anecdotes posted which suggest he being mentally ill

>>17068810
This is after he got MKUltra'd

>>17068814
No there aren't. That's just you backward rationalising everything. FUCK YOU

>>17068795
The guy is literally a serial killer

>>17068823
Oh no, three people. Jesus wept. Big pharma is responsible for millions of deaths.

>"[Ted] describes at length his inability to figure out whether or not he was attractive to women and references a passing comment of a friend of his family's at the age of 15, that made him believe he was quite attractive. […] At times in his writings, he focuses, in an extraordinary amount of detail, on passing or short lived relationships or potential relationships with females. This is illustrated by his discussion of his relationships with (REDACTED) when he was 10, (REDACTED) when he was 16, (REDACTED) when he was 17, (REDACTED) when he was 32, "Ms. Z" when he was in graduate school, and (REDACTED) when he was 36.”

>"aside from his mother, who doted on him as a boy, there appears to have been no substantive relationship with a woman in all his life"

>The court psychiatrist: "it is evident that he has repeatedly developed idealized romantic attachments to women with whom he has little familiarity or contact. These women, for the most part, are unaware of the degree of his attachment. That he has maintained these idealized attachment over extended periods of time, is outlined extensively in his writings. It appears that the onset of this disorder for Mr. Kaczynski was in his early 20s. It is likely that for many years he has intermittently experienced exacerbations in the intensity of this disorder. Those periods have been preceded by prodromal symptoms of depressed mood, insomnia, increased distractibility, and intensification of sexual identity problems. "

>"Before his arrest he’d had almost no experience with women, as he confided repeatedly to his diary. The opposite sex confounded him: What did women want? How did you know when they liked you? Why was it so hard? But as a notorious serial killer, he attracted the interest of women, dozens of them, who wrote him to say how handsome they thought he was. They called him “Teddy,” sent him provocative pictures, told him about their sex fantasies and begged to visit him. One woman, in a letter sent to Kaczynski’s attorneys, even proposed marriage. [...] The letters shocked him so much that even though he rejected the mental health profession he wrote to a psychologist to ask if he thought the woman might be mentally unstable. “Can unresolved anger lead to sadomasochistic sexual impulses?” he wrote."

>>17068843
It’s like arguing with an edgy teenager in debate class
>bad thing
>”BUT THIS WORSE THING”
it’s so tiresome

>>17068774
Loneliness/isolation

>>17068846
Why do women love serial killers so much? Do i really need to kill a couple of prostitutes to find love?

>>17068854
No, you're just failing to infer the argument. If CEO of pharma company is responsible for drug that kills 1000 people, and I kill the CEO of this company, and you call me a serial killer, you're the one with the mental illness.

>>17068870
kill me and you can hit two birds with one stone

>>17068770
Jigger? Don't you mean...

>>17068744
>When hugged as a child, [Ted Kaczynski] squirmed instead of hugging back. Later on in adolescence, he stiffened when being hugged by his mother. It was as if Ted's way of relating obeyed a different set of rules.
Literally me. Kinda, I put my arms to the back, extending them like wings. Except I also did it to friends and anyone who touched me. They'd run up to me and hug me, and I'd push them back and pat myself to get rid of the germs. I was always incredibly polite but I didn't like being touched. I looked at them with disgust and dusted myself off. You know, maybe there's a reason why at some point everyone stopped talking to me until I was left roaming the halls alone and only some girls would take pity and talk to me. Although I reckon they just wanted to sweet-talk and humiliate me later, and also make me help them with their exercises. Fuck them, I wasn't going to give those thots anything for free.
>>17068770
>hurts innocent animals for no reason
Yeah, he was a weakling autist. I at least know that I'm too self-absorbed.

>>17068810
Okay lower-case m

>>17068870
>why do women love men who murder people
watch a nature documentary about any mammal

>>17068810
>But the knight in shining armor no longer exists in Europe

Why do incels always say shit like this? It's not as if during the middle ages, everyone was a cool knight that would fuck bitches all day. The average man was some poor peasant that was weak and powerless against the people he was working for, just like the "modern man" he describes. Wow, it's almost as if the overwhelming majority of human beings were subjugated by a system throughout most of history.

I know his whole thing is "agricultural revolution bad", but don't then try to make a medieval europe vs modern day comparison, because the average man was equally cucked in both.

>>17068870
Women are the true villains in this story.
>"Oh, I didn't like Ted back when he was a young genius mathematician with the potential to benefit humanity, that's, like, so creepy, teehee! But now that he's a geriatric psychotic serial killer terrorist behind bars? SO HOTTT"

>>17068770
This has gotta be fake. A BLACK lab named (J)igger?

>>17068770
Dogs generally love me. Does this mean I’m not based like Ted?

>>17068987
You should've met the other two dogs Ted killed - Rigger and Jogger.

>>17068744
>gossip and hearsay
Who knows if any of this is true?

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>>17069055
very checked

>>17068744
>"I ran out of money for tickets to get back into the theater."
Oh my sides

>>17068930
he's talking about the hero-archetype, not about the literal knight, dumb retarded shithead pissfuck

>>17069070
>>17069077
>9 dubs and 1 trip in 39 posts
intredasting

>>17068770
>NOOOOOOO NOT LE HECKIN DOGGO NOT LE WOOF WOOF FLOOFER KEANU CHUNGUS GOOD BOI

>>17068770
BASED! Fuck animals. Welfare-dependent niggers, the lot of them.

>>17068770
being based as fuck

ITT: obvious glownoggers trying to slander Ted and avert the global revolution against the technological system
>inb4 posted from iPhone

>>17068744
>hey ruling ckllass, there are these problems with your society --
>You're nothing but a stupid virgin and if you got laid then unemployment wouldn't exist.
>uhh ... okay ... but, meanwhile, there are these problems --
>VIRGIN! VIRGIN! YOU ARE SUCH A LOSER! LOOOOOSERRR!
>I think I'm beginning to understand why we're having these problems.

All of these posts are fraudulent, but some of them are funny nonetheless.

>>17068744
I try to avoid pity, as it weakens a man. But I feel bad for Ted. It does make perfect sense that women wouldnt be able to appreciate him.

>>17068901
No such thing as an innocent animal.

>>17068744
People like Ted are the reason I evaluate an author's political philosophy by the way they lived their life. If they lacked virtue altogether, it is likely their philosophy is trash and cope.

Other thinkers that go straight into the trash are:
>Kant
>Nietzsche
>Foucault
>Sartre
>Beauvoir
>Machiavelli
>Spengler
etc.pp.

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>>17069749
How do you evaluate Diogenes? He himself was a homeless lecher, but the most successful person in the world said he'd rather be him if not himself.

>>17069749
What's wrong with Kant?

>>17069760
>thinking Alexander was a good man
no

>>17069760
what about being a homeless leecher is lacking in virtue?

There was speculation his hospital stay as a baby affected his outlook. His parents -- or at least his mother -- noted that he was a different child after being hospitalized.

>>17069776
Why not tho

>>17068770
his only flaw

>>17069778
I'm not going to explain such basic things to someone who's playing dumb.

>>17069839
do explain
what did he do wrong?

>>17069860
No, really, I dont play along with people playing dumb. If you act like you dont know jacking off in public in front of children is wrong, then we cant have a conversation because you're simply being disingenuous. Goodbye

>>17069875
I'm asking what's wrong with being a homeless leecher, not jacking off in front of kids. You midwit with no reading comprehension.

>>17068770
I don't like him anymore.

>>17070016
t. d*g

>>17068987
Turns out it's fake. I looked this up and found nothing.

>>17068770
Chad Ted vs. the cringe dog

>>17069749
>eefff I dunt leik dem I dun read dem!!
NPC

>>17070030
kill yourself you disgusting tranny snake

>>17070038
Apparently it's from the book "Unabomber: The Secret Life of Ted Kaczynski" by Chris Waits.

>>17070064
what's wrong little doggy? gonna bark? gonna piss your pants maybe?

>>17070071
>Chris Waits
Apparently that's his "unsuspecting neighbor" and not a single citation of the book. This is fishy as fuck.

>>17068870
You know for a fucking fact that if there were any women who were serial killers, men would be doing the same shit

>>17070270
there were women who were serial killers, and you didn't see men doing the same shit.

>>17068810
>Feds have access to sissy hypno beams
>this is a strike against ted

>>17069749
What is wrong with Nietzsche, Foulcault and Machiavelli?

>>17069599
animals in general are a mixed bunch but dogs are annoying af and pet owners are even worse

>>17069077
It literally doesn't change anon's point. I thought reading comprehension was a requirement here.

>>17068930
Average peasant even was still pretty masculine, compared to average western man now.
Peasant:
>working manually (in shape)
>close to the nature and his instincts
>fist fights other peasants in pub
>kills animals to eat
>went through power process => confidence
vs men now:
>sitting lifestyle
>never fought, nor killed
>binded by laws and rules to be pussy
>eats ultraprocesed food
>his work didnt allow him to go through power process => low confidence

>>17068770
Based.

>>17068944
>young genius mathematician with the potential to benefit humanity
Pure mathematics benefits nobody, not even the mathematician.

>>17071173
this, Kaczynski was clearly brilliant but his field of research was a dead end and it was pronounced sterile and abandoned soon after he left for his forrest retreat
t. mathematician

>>17068944
based

>>17069773
not him, but kant was a big neet

>>17070030
kek

>>17068810
How does this guy think that he can tell people what women like with his experience with them?
Fucking hell, its the same ignorant projection that you see from people on this site.

>>17068870
Protestant repression.

>>17070285
Don't you remember people waifuing that Jap chick who stabbed that guy?
Pic related.

>>17069073
Kek

>>17071332
To be fair, she's objectively attractive, murder or no murder. In a different world, she could've become an e-girl, milking her followers out of their money. Ted? Never in the cards for him.

>>17072135
No she's not? She is average at most.

>>17068744
Do you want a pill extremely hard to swallow ?
If Ted's IQ wasn't so well known and he didn't had a good academic career in such a serious field as math; his manifesto and his story wouldn't nearly be as well known and he would have been forgotten or at best recalled as what he was a mentally ill autist and a poor man's Ellul.

People only know him and sympathize with the idea they have of him, because they see him as a "deep, misunderstood and edgy genius" just because his IQ is known.

Also "Industrial Society and Its Future", isn't groundbreaking, deep or insightful; another reason people here like him is because he trashes leftist, while conveniently forgetting that he calls conservative marveling over technology stupid.

>>17072306
Yes she is?
She's no bombshell, but she's definitely cuter than the vast majority of girls I see on a daily basis. If you disagree, then there are three possibilities:
>you are a gay
>you are a jealous woman
>you live in Paradise City (where the grass is green and the girls are pretty)
Either way, she was already faring better than Ted before their respective murders (given that she had a boyfriend, and Ted's love life was... well, read the thread).

>>17068744
>When hugged as a child, [Ted Kaczynski] squirmed instead of hugging back.
>Kaczynski [...] lacked even elementary social skills.
>>17068846
>Ted] describes at length his inability to figure out whether or not he was attractive to women and references a passing comment of a friend of his family's at the age of 15, that made him believe he was quite attractive. […] At times in his writings, he focuses, in an extraordinary amount of detail, on passing or short lived relationships or potential relationships with females
>"aside from his mother, who doted on him as a boy, there appears to have been no substantive relationship with a woman in all his life"
>Those periods have been preceded by prodromal symptoms of depressed mood, insomnia, increased distractibility,
>Before his arrest he’d had almost no experience with women, as he confided repeatedly to his diary.
Wtf
Why is he literally me?
Am I gonna become a murderer too?
Also where can I read his diary?

>>17072333
That's why they stopped publishing autistic psycho manifestos. They realized too many resentful chuds will identify with it. Now they would never publish any manifestos in a print publication, and scrub them off the web as fast as possible.

>>17072398
>this is an attractive woman in Muttmerica

lmao

>>17068744
Industrial society my ass. It’s always the eternal fem*id.

>>17068846
source? I always suspected that uncle ted was just another maladjusted sperg blaming all his problems on society.

>>17068744
What's really sad is that some people would actually read shit like this and then dismiss him completely.

>>17072783
If you can't function like a normal human or understand basic relationship dynamics, why should i listen to you or give any credit to what you say about society and people?
Lmao i'll ring you up when i want some insights about dinosaurs or trains you fucking auts.

>>17072802
How does not being a normie mean you can't observe the world around you?

>>17072957
If one can observe the world around him and understand it he can get his dick wet or at least not look like a total sperg.
If one can't do that, then one just does not understand it.

>>17072527
Yep, she's cute. Cope.

>>17068744
>>"Kaczynski [...] lacked even elementary social skills. Russell Mosny recalls one of Kaczynski's rare dates. [He] borrowed his parent's car and took a girl to a movie. A half hour into the show, he excused himself and walked out of the theater, then returned [...] thirty minutes later he left again, then returned. He repeated these mysterious exits twice more. But the last time he did not return. After the movie was over, the girl found Ted waiting for her on the street. "Where have you been?" she asked. "I parked the car at a thirty-minute meter and had to keep putting nickels in," he explained. [...] "I ran out of money for tickets to get back into the theater."

>>17073123
>Yep, she's cute. Cope.

>>17073378
Cope.

>>17072135
>he could've become an e-girl, milking her followers out of their money
Not really. She's ok. You need to raise your standards and simp for higher tier women, anon.

>>17069077
I was talking about the archetype dumbass

>>17072992
One can understand without being able to execute.
I could watch a thousand baseball games, analyze them frame by frame, read up on the techniques of the greatest hitters -- but put me at the plate against a good pitcher and I'd strike out every time.
On top of that, one can argue that conscious understanding can only come from someone unable to execute. If you're immersed in normalfaggotry, you don't understand the system, you just act via instinct, things come natural. But if the proper instincts aren't drilled into your brain from birth, then you have to put in some effort in order to acquire them and exist in the world around you. Even if you aren't as successful as someone who was normal from birth, you still have a more thorough, conscious understanding.

>>17069749
> I evaluate an author's political philosophy by the way they lived their life. If they lacked virtue altogether, it is likely their philosophy is trash and cope

I totally agree after learning the bios of these philosophers recently. can i get a list of your favorites so lived decent lives?

>>17073734
befriend a high functioning, high IQ schizophrenic and you will learn a lot of interesting things. but only in bits and pieces. their worldview as a whole week be distorted and false, usually structured in a way so that they themselves feel like less if a complete fuck up / loser.
Ted is that. So are a lot of these venerated philosophers. A couple good ideas at the right time, a trainwreck of a life, and an incoherent worldview

>>17071076
Not to mention that the modern man has to go through the humiliating process of sexual selection while the chad peasant just got arrangemarriaged

>>17073836
>the humiliating process of sexual selection
kek. incredible

>>17073835
loser/fuck up is relative tho

>>17068799
Honestly this seems to be true I don't get it, they just know when someone is a bad person

>>17073734
>On top of that, one can argue that conscious understanding can only come from someone unable to execute. If you're immersed in normalfaggotry, you don't understand the system, you just act via instinct, things come natural.
This is absolutely true.

>>17071076
Yep a lot of old books mention how the peasants often mogg the aristocracy

>>17073835
Schizophrenia is just one failure mode. There are other types of losers out there who are capable of constructing coherent worldviews, such as high functioning autists and the plain socially awkward. Using schizos as a stand-in for all those cast aside is inaccurate.

>>17072992
Normies: "if you criticize society yet you're a socially awkward loser you're not listening to"
Also normies: "when black people criticize society yet they fail in it that means they're right and we have to fight racism"

>>17073928
>you're not listening to
*you're not worth listening to

>>17073920
what is your point? autistic people know the secrets of the universe?
If you are not neurotypical, you can be slightly useful for an outside perspective. If you cannot parlay that perspective into a functional life, your ideas are best left at fodder for higher functioning individuals. most of today philosophers listed were freaks, and their complete visions all seriously flawed. Philosophy is a freak show. Ted is mentally ill and had a few interesting ideas... already expressed by Rousseau and that Ellul guy. His behaviors discredit his worldview as a whole though. And his crimes were abhorrent enough that we could simply erase him from history, learn from similar, better philosophers, and we will have lost nothing

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>>17073899
Indeedly checked

>>17072686
This. Where is rhis stuff from?

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>>17073973
The original post was >>17072802. It says
>If you can't function like a normal human or understand basic relationship dynamics, why should i listen to you or give any credit to what you say about society and people?
I argue that people like that can provide valuable perspectives that are worth listening to.
Keep in mind that this is little different from
>If you cannot parlay that perspective into a functional life, your ideas are best left at fodder for higher functioning individuals
but said more charitably. Although I might be misunderstanding what "left as fodder" means in this case. In my view, an idea can either be utilized (to some degree) or tossed aside, and using an idea as fodder is the former; the original post argued that the ideas of the non-neurotypical should be wholly tossed aside.

>>17068799
Kinship with all life by J. Allen Boone.

Great read for all who find the topic interesting,
>Real-Life Experiences Showing How Animals Communicate with Each Other and with the People Who Understand Them.

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>>17068799
(((Dogs))) are the most oversocialized animals, they blindly comply with the whims of the techno-industrial system.

Where's the vocaroo fag when you need him?

>>17071332
Attempted murder=/=serial killing

>>17073133
I'm an autist with social phobia and I genuinely don't know what to do in this situation, does anyone have any idea?

>>17074363
I'm not autistic but I genuinely don't know either. Of course, he could've found a better place to park, but what to do if you've already fucked up and parked next to the meter?
Maybe he could've avoided paying the theatre ticket upon returning by explaining to the cinema cashier that he parked next to the meter. Did American cinemas in the 1950s REALLY require you to buy a new ticket every time you re-entered the building during the same film projection?