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Is it worth it? I could buy the uncensored version where i live

>> No.17182720

>>17182711
I remember checking it out in highschool and the dude who wrote the intro that translated it kept talking about how german has a written version of the filler word "uhh" and that it's a sign of poor or dictated writing. I never got much further than that.

>> No.17182730

>>17182720
Didn't Hess write this?

>> No.17182750

>>17182720
Is it "doch"?

>> No.17182757

>>17182730
I read that bit in 2006 bro, I don't fucking remember.

>> No.17182813

>>17182711
Worth it for what? Understanding Hitler or Nazism in an academic sense? Sure, why not.

>> No.17184034

>>17182711
yea

>> No.17184047

>>17182711
>I could buy the uncensored version where i live
Iran?

>> No.17184146

>>17182711
Get the Thomas Dalton translation.
>>17182730
>Didn't Hess write this?
The Stalag edition was supposedly translated by an unknown NSDAP member (Stalag being a contraction of the German word Stammlager, or POW camp) for British POWs.
>>17182813
>worth it for what?
For understanding the mind of one of the most lied about European men of all time?

>> No.17184156

>>17182711
Stalag Edition is only good edition

>> No.17184295

>>17184156
Dalton edition is now the best

>> No.17184605

>>17184295
Oh yeah, fucker?
Fite me irl

>> No.17184712

>>17184295
In all seriousness, thanks, didn't know this was out

>> No.17184811
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>>17184712
There's the standard two volume translation and then there's a dual English-German translation (for bonus aesthetic). There's an abridged single volume edition too.

>> No.17184879

>>17184146
What was lied about?

>> No.17184898

>>17182711
>I could buy

lrn 2 internet, newfag

>Is it worth it?
It not worth the bandwith. A clusterfuck of self-aggrandizement and self-pity

>> No.17184984

>>17184879
>What was lied about?
Not OP but pretty much everything. These people have been force feeding us propaganda about him for 75 years. They want you to think that Inglorious Bastards and Schindler's List were actually true.

>> No.17184996

>>17184898
>self-aggrandizement
>impose your will upon the world and conquer Europe
Pick one.

>> No.17185000

>>17184984
>Not OP but pretty much everything.
I don't need a comprehensive list, just 1 or 2 examples would suffice, if you have any.

>> No.17185013

>>17184984
Did you see the ending of Inglorious Basterds?
It's just like the end of Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, weird fantasy twist ending

>> No.17185084

>>17182711
Sort of. It's widely panned as being poorly written, but the historical relevance makes it semi mandatory reading if you're interested in geopolitics of any point after the first World War

>> No.17185144

>>17182750
"doch" is an actual word with an actual meaning

>> No.17185171

>>17185000
Holomeme, "masterrace" meme, muh global domination meme, anti-slavic meme, ideal racial character meme, pretty much everything

>> No.17185189

>>17185013
>Did you see the ending of Inglorious Basterds?
Total Hollywood crap subsidized by lemmings and useful idiots. Once Upon A Time was pretty funny but I haven't really enjoyed anything by Tarentino since the 90s.

>> No.17185198

>>17185171
>Holomeme
You mean the systematic extermination of the Jews, homosexuals, Slavs, and other undesirables that is well documented and not disputed in any non-fringe context?
>"masterrace" meme
Hitler didn't have any concept of ubermenscht?
>global domination meme
He didn't plan to conquer Europe?
>anti-Slavic meme
He didn't invade Eastern Europe and kill much more brutally than he did in Western Europe?

>> No.17185308

>>17185198
There is no physical or documentary evidence of the holocaust.
No.
No.
No.

>> No.17185325

>>17185308
>There is no physical or documentary evidence of the holocaust.
ah I didn't realize I'd been baited so hard. well done

>> No.17185355

>>17185198
>You mean the systematic extermination of the Jews, homosexuals, Slavs, and other undesirables that is well documented and not disputed in any non-fringe context?
I could already tell you were waiting like a coiled spring to defend your handlers so I'm really not interested in arguing with someone who directly copies the wikis definition of the holomeme. The labour camps were real. The extermination wasn't. Zyklon B was a fucking delousing agent.
>Hitler didn't have any concept of ubermenscht?
The "master race" is a translation of the rarely used German words "Herrenvolk", "Herrenmensch", and "Herrenrasse". It is claimed to have been an important racist concept in National Socialist Germany. This translation and interpretation are wrong and argued it is an example of Allied psychological warfare. This created the false impression that the word "Herrenrasse" was widely used in Germany. In reality, however, instead of the word "Herrenrasse" the word Herrenvolk was the one that was used in Germany, and even this word was used only rarely by National Socialists.
>He didn't plan to conquer Europe?
Last time I checked this wasn't global domination. Nor was it the entirety of Europe. The Germans had lots of European allies.
>He didn't invade Eastern Europe and kill much more brutally than he did in Western Europe?
Nope. Allied soldiers spoke highly of the Germans, and very negatively of the Soviets and Soviet occupation. If you want to talk about brutality why don't you start with the Soviets who tortured Italian POWs, raped their way across continental Europe, and turned the entirety of the Eastern Bloc into a starving shithole that people couldn't leave?

>> No.17185360

>>17185325
Literally every single piece of "evidence" of a systematic, intentional, murder of Jews for the purpose of their extermination as a race is eye witness accounts. There is no physical or documentary evidence of it.

>> No.17185439

>>17185355
>extermination wasn't.
The vast, vast majority of people educated on the subject disagree.
>They used a different word
OK... so? does that change anything? I'm not denying the Allies tried to make the Germans look bad, that doesnt' mean the Germans didn't look bad on their own.
>Last time I checked this wasn't global domination. Nor was it the entirety of Europe. The Germans had lots of European allies.
Literally anyone who studies anything about WW2 knows that Hitler didn't plan for Germany to control the whole world on his own. I don't know why this is being listed as a lie about Hitler when it's not a lie, just a common misconception that uneducated people have about history -- not particularly interesting.
>Allied soldiers spoke highly of the Germans, and very negatively of the Soviets and Soviet occupation.
Yes, that's corroborating my point -- American/British soldiers spoke highly of the Germans because the Germans treated Western Europe with relative respect. Soviet soldiers would have had a very different impression of the Germans, because the Germans were much more barbaric in Eastern Europe than Western. Also, "Allies" includes the Soviets, how can you not know that?

>> No.17185448

>>17185355
Zyklon B is deadly in large quantities, which the Germans ordered, in large quantities

>> No.17185455

>>17185355
This is the funniest post I think I've seen in a long while. Thank you anon for your genuine sincerity. It's absolutely fascinating what /pol/ can do to a person.

>> No.17185485

>>17185439
>The vast, vast majority of people educated on the subject disagree.
This isn't an argument

>> No.17185490

>>17185455
It's pretty funny, agreed, but I had a friend that after 10 years of being friends, I had to cut ties with because he was going off the deep end with /pol/ nutjobbery and it was just getting unbearable to listen to. It's as bad as religious kooks who couldn't come up with a logical argument to prove that peanut butter is derived from peanuts.

>> No.17185525

>>17185439
>The vast, vast majority of people educated on the subject disagree.
The ones that do disagree get ostracized. See; David Irving. He uncovered more primary sources than any other World War II historian and was regarded the best in his field by every other contemporary World War II historian. He was the only historian to uncover the KGB archives where he made incredible discoveries such as Goebbels long lost diary. He made all these accomplishments, and was regarded as the best, until he said a few wrongthinks. They ostracized him. Imagine a historical event so true that it's illegal to question in 17 countries. One where they have to throw 92 year olds Ursula Haverbeck in prison for simply expressing an opinion.
>OK... so? does that change anything? I'm not denying the Allies tried to make the Germans look bad, that doesnt' mean the Germans didn't look bad on their own.
Because it doesn't directly translate to what they say it does and the world itself was never used by the National Socialists. You don't know what you're talking about.
>Literally anyone who studies anything about WW2 knows that Hitler didn't plan for Germany to control the whole world on his own.
Of course they do. That's what they portray in the movies, television, hollywood. That's how they still appropriate anti-German rhetoric in Britain while their cities are being browned, they say "at least we arent speaking German" even though Hitler had never planned to invade Britain and offered numerous peace deals prior and during the war.
>Soviet soldiers would have had a very different impression of the Germans, because the Germans were much more barbaric in Eastern Europe than Western. Also, "Allies" includes the Soviets, how can you not know that?
Other way around. The Soviets were the most barbaric force known to man. They were simply brutish, under a brutish regime that forced them to human wave the Germans like fodder. Literal animals.

>> No.17185532

>>17185448
Proof?
>>17185455
Argument?
>>17185490
I just provided several logical arguments. Yet you talk about me in the third person like I'm not even here. That's pretty insecure, bro.

>> No.17185546

>>17185490
In law school there was a /pol/ kid who would unironically talk to people on social justice journals about skull shapes and wooden doors. I couldn't exactly tell if he was autistic and couldn't tell he made everyone uncomfortable or if he was genuinely a sadist and liked the reactions he got when feigning sincerity in these beliefs. I'd entertain him because I was used to being on here, but all my friends couldn't stand him.

>> No.17185558

>>17185532
Not arguing. Just stating something. Like a conversation. Like when people talk to each other without an ulterior motive of propagandizing the public into dangerous ideological prerogatives. I just think you're funny anon. So handsome with a good personality.

>> No.17185559

>>17185546
Woah that was really interesting I totally laughed. Back to work goyim.

>> No.17185568

>>17185532
>Proof?
The Holocause

>> No.17185570

>>17182711
>uncensored version
I didnt realise it was censored? Elaborate?

>> No.17185580

>>17185559
I'm glad I provided you with such stimulating content that it sparked you to respond and lash out in ironic parody. At least you know you're alive.

>> No.17185589

>>17185558
Kind of embarrassing that you couldn't talk to me directly though.
>the sarcastic projection at the end
Are you going to post a side profile of your nose or are you going to start memeing about "sincerity" again? Fucking lemming

>> No.17185595

>>17185355
Based.

>> No.17185600

>>17185559
The best part is you can hear his underage sneer and self-satisfaction through his post. I used to be like you when I was younger so I can't really judge but I'll pray for you anon, good luck.

>> No.17185605

>>17185589
I did talk to you directly. I said (you)

>> No.17185610

>>17185546
>hee hee yeah I used to laugh at all the Nazis... I was such a chad... please believe me...

>> No.17185613
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>>17185360
>Literally every single piece of "evidence" of a systematic, intentional, murder of Jews for the purpose of their extermination as a race is eye witness accounts. There is no physical or documentary evidence of it.
Eye witness accounts coming from, you know, the people who were getting gassed
And also the people doing the gassing.
Also the fact that you can literally visit Auschwitz today.
You fucking turbo retard

>> No.17185616

>>17185525
>Holocaust deniers get ostracized
I agree with this, Jews really make it impossible to have a rational discussion about the Holocaust or question official numbers or anything. That doesn't mean the Holocaust didn't happen, it just means that Jews are very sensitive about anything that hurts their status as victims. I'm skeptical of official numbers, but that's very different from claiming there was no systematic attempt at extermination.
>Because it doesn't directly translate
Who cares? Nazis were obsessed with racial superiority. Nobody gives a shit what German word they were using to talk about it.
>That's what they portray in the movies, television, hollywood
It's obvious you're a /pol/ster, not because of your ridiculous political views, but because you seem to think that everything in the world is run by a single organization. You listed 3 things, all of which are actually the same ("hollywood"), and none of which have anything to do with historical consensus on Germany's plans during WW2. There are a lot of inaccurate things that Hollywood pushes, that's what Jews do. It's not relevant to our discussion, though.
>Other way around.
Both statements can be true:
1. Germans were more brutal to Soviets than to Western Europe
2. Soviets were more brutal than Germans
Of course, the second statement isn't true -- what you're trying to say is that the Soviet leaders were barbaric with how they treated Soviet soldiers, which is true, but not relevant. We're talking about how /enemy/ soldiers and civilians were treated, and as barbaric as the Soviet's response in Germany was when they finally got the upper hand, it's nothing compared to what Germany was doing in Eastern Europe.
>I just provided several logical arguments.
You have yet to provide an argument that is both logically sound and backed by evidence. It's easy to make a logical argument based on false facts, or an illogical argument based on truth -- please don't respond to my posts again until you've come up with an argument that is both.

>> No.17185620

>>17185546
Haha wow imagine having low status views. Anything that makes people uncomfortable should be ridiculed and shunned.

>> No.17185621

>>17185558
Bro you’re more cringe right now than the /pol/tard, did you get lost on the way to plebbit or something?

>> No.17185634

>>17185600
>he thinks im young
Thanks anon. Make sure to thank Yahweh when you're done.

>> No.17185637

>>17185355
>>17185308
Literally just look at Generalplan Ost. The Nazis wanted to exterminate or deport the vast majority of Eastern Europeans because of an idea of ethnic superiority.
The Holocaust is well-documented in history, from multiple independent eyewitness accounts, photographs, and documents. There are reports from Nazi soldiers saying things like “we shot x thousand Jews today; we’re solving the Jewish question for Lithuania”, and multiple historical accounts of shooting squads and concentration camps. “Jewish deportation to the east” is the codeword they used for this. It’s not for no reason that even historians like David Irving accept the Holocaust.

>> No.17185638

>>17185613
>you can visit Auschwitz
>this proves the holocaust

Truly embarrassing

>> No.17185644

>>17185013
both garbage movies. idk how anyone could sit through so much bullshit and nothing happening.

>> No.17185645

>>17182711
Unless you are a historian no, it's not worth it.

>> No.17185665

>>17185637
>they used secret codewords for genocide in their own internal documents

Please go back to hell where you belong kike

>> No.17185666
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17185666

>>17185610
>>17185620
>>17185621
Lmao

>> No.17185689

>>17185546

Based. You must have went to a shitty lawschool because usually antisocial spergs get filtered out by poor networking or low gpa

>> No.17185696

>>17185638
>only address the weakest point in an argument
>don't even actually address it just make a snippy remark about it
intellectual coward and certified retard

>> No.17185698

>>17185616
>That doesn't mean the Holocaust didn't happen, it just means that Jews are very sensitive about anything that hurts their status as victims
Because once people realize that aren't innocent victims then you'll have a 110 on your hands.
>but that's very different from claiming there was no systematic attempt at extermination.
There is literally no physical proof of the final solution to the minecraft villager problem. None. We cracked their enigma code for the entirety of the war and before it even began. Still no proof.
>Nazis were obsessed with racial superiority
They really weren't. They were Germanic nationalists. Read Race and the Third Reich: Linguistics, Racial Anthropology and Genetics in the Dialectic of Volk by Christopher Hutton if you are genuinely interested. Their own race scientists even understand that "aryan" was a linguistic term and had no correlation with racial character.
>It's obvious you're a /pol/ster, not because of your ridiculous political views, but because you seem to think that everything in the world is run by a single organization
Trace the trail to find the fuse mate. I used to be like you. I don't even use /pol/ it was my life experiences that lead me here. You come across as the "belittling redditor" archetype.
>and as barbaric as the Soviet's response in Germany was when they finally got the upper hand, it's nothing compared to what Germany was doing in Eastern Europe.
"I read 4 articles on how muh slavs were muh genocided even though 500,000 Poles served in the Wehrmacht and there were Yugoslavian and Baltic Waffen-SS Divisions." Shut up dude.
>You have yet to provide an argument that is both logically sound and backed by evidence. It's easy to make a logical argument based on false facts, or an illogical argument based on truth -- please don't respond to my posts again until you've come up with an argument that is both.
Blah blah blah, more plebbit shit and pseudointellectual nonsense

>> No.17185700
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>The planking of the reinforced concrete ceiling of the corpse cellar could not yet be removed due to the freezing weather. However, this is not significant, as the gassing cellar [Vergasungskeller] can be used for this purpose.
https://i.imgur.com/VzRzw6g.gif (link to Bischoff's letter)
https://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller

Oh look. Here's a document detailing a gas chamber.

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>>17185700
Topf und Sonhe, the company that built the ovens, claim they could burn 1.3 million a year in Auschwits-Birkenau, on this internal German memo.

https://imgur.com/d09KvVO

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>>17185700
>>17185711
https://imgur.com/a/725A7

https://imgur.com/a/AubwH

https://imgur.com/a/MbpVq

https://imgur.com/a/iNYHW

https://imgur.com/a/nW70r

https://imgur.com/a/YTjir

photographs of victims
http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2009/03/photographic-documentation-of-nazi.html

list of published documents from the nazis about the holocaust
http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.ie/2012/10/index-of-published-evidence-on.html
Heres Eisenhower, Bradly and Patton inspecting Camp Ohrdruf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR2m5Aa8aCo

Locals brought in to witness what happened at Dachau
https://youtu.be/jF6KW4rS7TM

Bodies of inmates left inside the railroad carts at Dachau
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yQNGX8Ag4M

Liberated inmates from Camp Ebensee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCaYmP8SQn8

Footage from Mauthausen after being liberated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjj3WJFZcY0

Bergen-Belsen after being liberated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KCKagd6Ihk

>> No.17185735

>>17185665
Yes, multiple reasons for this. For example (1) to dim their sense of moral wrongdoing, (2) in case documents get intercepted by enemies, (3) it was a secret fucking project and even the CIA use codewords in a similar way.
Here is Heinrich Himmler explicitly admitting the Holocaust in a speech (https://youtu.be/mRO04q_lQi4)), where he calls it an “evacuation” or deportation, but reveals what it truly means:
>I am now referring to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people. It's one of those things that is easily said: 'The Jewish people are being exterminated', says every party member, 'this is very obvious, it's in our program, elimination of the Jews, extermination, we're doing it, hah, a small matter.' And then they turn up, the upstanding 80 million Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. They say the others are all swines, but this particular one is a splendid Jew. But none has observed it, endured it. Most of you here know what it means when 100 corpses lie next to each other, when there are 500 or when there are 1,000. To have endured this and at the same time to have remained a decent person — with exceptions due to human weaknesses — has made us tough, and is a glorious chapter that has not and will not be spoken of. Because we know how difficult it would be for us if we still had Jews as secret saboteurs, agitators and rabble-rousers in every city, what with the bombings, with the burden and with the hardships of the war. If the Jews were still part of the German nation, we would most likely arrive now at the state we were at in 1916 and 17

>> No.17185738

>>17185723
>eye witnesses of a race who have genetically played victim for thousands of years
The best you and your pseudohistorian pals got?

>> No.17185752

>>17185700
Zyklon B was for delousing, already explained this to you.
>>17185711
That's not what that claims

>> No.17185763

>>17185698
>Because once people realize...
Nice job dodging my point. I'll take that to mean you acknowledge that your argument is bad?
>There is literally no physical proof of the final solution to the minecraft villager problem.
There is, see >>17185637
>Trace the trail to find the fuse mate.
Nice job ignoring my point again because you don't have a good response.
>"I read 4 articles on how muh slavs were muh genocided even though 500,000 Poles served in the Wehrmacht and there were Yugoslavian and Baltic Waffen-SS Divisions."
I never mentioned the German's plan to kill off most Slavs (although that plan does exist, see the post I linked to above), I just mentioned how brutal Germany was in warfare in Eastern Europe compared to Western. Read about the 900 day siege of Leningrad, or the battle of Stalingrad. Find me an example of the Soviets dealing a comparable level of damage to the Germans. Even the mass rape in Berlin is tame in comparison.
>Shut up dude.
Have a struck a nerve with my calm, reasoned debate? :^)
>Blah blah blah, more plebbit shit and pseudointellectual nonsense
I thought I told you not to reply to me until you had something worth saying. Please, stop posting, and if you can, get some help for yourself. It's not normal to hold delusions like this that persist even in the face of reason. I'm worried about your mental health.

>> No.17185783

>>17185738
Seriously you should go on that Holocaust controversies site he linked. Bunch of original sources proving quite definitively that the Nazis were killing Jews, in the camps and in the streets with firing squads. It’s not just eyewitness accounts; that site has everything from military/SS documents to transcriptions of speeches to photographs. But I guess you’re a fervent racist judging from your post and you don’t really care whether they were killed or not.

>> No.17185785

>>17185613
>Also the fact that you can literally visit Auschwitz today.
>Gravity exists therefore 6 million people fell off a rooftop in 5 years

>Eye witness accounts coming from, you know, the people who were getting gassed
If your argument was true, the only people who would ever see the gas chambers would be the ones getting killed.

>> No.17185797

>>17185783
>Bunch of original sources proving quite definitively that the Nazis were killing Jews
No gassing. No extermination. I never denied that Jews died m8.
>muh racist, muh i know better
Ok buddy.

>> No.17185800

>>17185785
see >>17185783
Is this the only strategy you know? Ignore the points that refute your own and latch on to the tiny details that you actually can refute? Pitiful.

>> No.17185810

Rightists belong in camps.

>> No.17185813

>>17185797
>No extermination.
Have you veen looked at any of the fucking evidence in this post? There is an audio recording of Himmler explaining the plan to exterminate the Jews. How are you so obtuse?

>> No.17185825

Geez you'd think people would be happy when I tell them 6 million people didnt get killed

>> No.17185843

>>17185763
>There is, see >>17185637
Ost was literally a meme.
>Nice job ignoring my point again because you don't have a good response.
You are too cemented why would I even bother I prefer baiting a reaction out of you kikeloving fags
>I just mentioned how brutal Germany was in warfare in Eastern Europe compared to Western
Which I already explained was because communists are subhuman and they were basically savage animals
>Find me an example of the Soviets dealing a comparable level of damage to the Germans
Nothing to compare it to. Germanys response was measured in comparison to what these jewish communists were doing in the weimar republic and what they were doing in soviet russia
>Find me an example of the Soviets dealing a comparable level of damage to the Germans
this isnt a debate
>I thought I told you not to reply to me until you had something worth saying. Please, stop posting, and if you can, get some help for yourself. It's not normal to hold delusions like this that persist even in the face of reason. I'm worried about your mental health.
Guaranteed Im more mentally and physically fit than you brah, some fucking yank probably. You dont even know who you're talking too m8

>> No.17185848

>>17185825
They did get killed. People deny the holocaust only because they seek to defend rightism. Rightism is a mind virus and rightists belong in camps.

>> No.17185850

>>17185813
>There is an audio recording of Himmler explaining the plan to exterminate the Jews.
No there isn't lmao, so abtracted.

>> No.17185860

>>17185848
>>17185810
>rightism
Tell me how I know you are a mentally ill tranny soon-to-be statistic?

>> No.17185875

>>17185848
Try using some real words tumblr tranny

>> No.17185877

This thread stinks of fucking reddit. I thought 4chan wasn't gay. I guess /lit/ is an exception

>> No.17185879

>>17185843
>you kikeloving fags
lol did you miss the part where I talk about how much I hate Jews in my post? I despise them, but no rational person can deny that the Nazis were trying to exterminate them.
>Which I already explained was because communists are subhuman and they were basically savage animals
So you admit you were wrong? Because I didn't say "Soviets didn't deserve what they got", I said "Germans were more brutal in Eastern Europe than in Western Europe". Sorry, but the goalposts are fixed, stop trying to move them.
>this isnt a debate
Clearly, because in a debate, you would reply to my points the way I'm replying to yours.
>Guaranteed Im more mentally and physically fit than you brah, some fucking yank probably. You dont even know who you're talking too m8
You're not, but you're welcome to continue making yourself look worse if you'd like to demonstrate your physical and mental prowess.
>>17185850
what? >>17185735
>so abstracted
Yeh it's almost so subtle I'm having trouble understanding what they could possibly be talking about. Incredible subtle.

>> No.17185890

>>17185877
/lit/ is the most reddit board short of /v/
Every day I hate this site more

>> No.17185891

>>17185843
>Ost was literally a meme.
“Don’t worry, we did did draw up a plan to colonise and genocide the majority of your people in accordance with ideals of Germanic superiority, but it was just a meme bro!”

>> No.17185926

>>17185189
No, that's my point, all his movies since Pulp Fiction have been fucking trash

>> No.17185946

>>17185879
>lol did you miss the part where I talk about how much I hate Jews in my post?
No you don't. So are you a Marxist or are you JIDF? I'll be serious for a minute, how fucking delusional do you have to be to try to use propositional logic on someone who clearly understands the talking points better than you do. Put two and two together if your serious and stop being a fucking lemming.
>I despise them, but no rational person can deny that the Nazis were trying to exterminate them.
Lots of rational people do. This is a non-starter. Somehow who claimed to "hate da Joos" would understand the extent of the system we are living in an apply their knowledge to that situation. You don't. So you are obviously lying to me for effect.
>Clearly, because in a debate, you would reply to my points the way I'm replying to yours.
What is it that you want from me rabbi?
>You're not, but you're welcome to continue making yourself look worse if you'd like to demonstrate your physical and mental prowess.
Oh, you're after my identity. Makes sense. 110 is coming you fucking hooknose faggot. We're on to you.
>Yeh it's almost so subtle I'm having trouble understanding what they could possibly be talking about. Incredible subtle.
Something you made up in your head that has no physical proof of happening.
>>17185891
>Don’t worry, we did did draw up a plan to colonise and genocide the majority of your people in accordance with ideals of Germanic superiority, but it was just a meme bro!
Yes. It never happened. It's a meme.

>> No.17185962

>>17185946
>Yes. It never happened. It's a meme.
There was no chance of it happening because the Germans lost the war. The point is that was their plan: to colonise and genocide Poland, Eastern Europe, and the Baltic states because they thought Germans were racially superior.
Anyway you seem mentally ill mate and it’s nearly 1AM so I’m off to sleep.

>> No.17185972

>>17185946
>lots of rational people do
By definition, they don't, because rational people don't ignore mountains of evidence with no explanation other than "it's fake", as you're doing.

I really don't know how to talk to someone who can look at a rock on the ground in front of them and say "no, there's no rock", but I guess that's because I'm not trained to work with the mentally ill.

>> No.17185981

>>17185962
>racially superior meme
>colonize countries that had waffen ss divisions awarded with medals by hitler himself
He's still rolling with it lmfao. Embarrassing. Make sure to tuck the talmud under your pillow before you flick off the lights.

>> No.17185989

>>17185981
are you white? be honest

>> No.17186010

>>17185972
>mountains of evidence
Where? Literally where? You've given me absolutely nothing apart from "durr some people died in war!!! owned!!!!" It astounds me that some people love bootlicking so much that they actually go out of their way to ignore an obvious a posteriori truth. It's like stockholm syndrome with you morons. The logistics of the holoh0ax were fucked by every level of analysis. Smoke stacks, unconnected chimneys, twelve shitty ovens, allied psychological warfare and lies for Jewish interests. Keep living in that world. It suits you.

>> No.17186020

>>17185989
No I'm from Israel like you.

>> No.17186038

>>17185616
>you seem to think that everything in the world is run by a single organization. You listed 3 things, all of which are actually the same ("hollywood")
You just proved his point. You can't say the world isn't ran by a single organization then immediately pivot and say that they are all controlled by the same Jewish organization. Did you even read what you wrote here?

>> No.17186039

>>17186010
read this fucking thread. There is tons of stuff here that you've completely ignored.
>>17186020
it's amazing what /pol/ does to a person's brain.

>> No.17186047

>>17186038
I didn't say every organization was a jewish organization. I said that hollywood encompasses the vast majority of US-created television and film, so "tv, film, hollywood" is all referring to the same establishment, hollywood.

>> No.17186049

>>17184879
if you really care, watch Hitler: The Greatest Story NEVER Told! and be ready to have your mind absolutely blown forever.

>> No.17186075
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>>17182711
yes, especially considering what he had to say about Social Democrats, Newspapers, Unions as well as the niggerfication of France and Marxism as well as Jews in general

>> No.17186084

>>17185198
>Hitler didn't have any concept of ubermenscht?
Yeah I think he was calling Germans "The Chosen People" (chosen by God) or since insane megalomaniac racist shit like that

>> No.17186090

>>17185848
you say they killed & cremated 6 million Jews in between 1940 and 1945, while simultaneously fighting a war on two fronts?
do you spend your time living in total disregard of logic and reason?

>> No.17186100

If you don't mind the money going to Jews, who the book is against, then sure. Otherwise you can just read it online for free.

>> No.17186107

>>17186084
>I think
*i read in a buzzfeed article
ftfy
do you know who actually calls themselves "The Chosen People"?

>> No.17186134

>>17186107
oy vey!

>> No.17186145

>>17186134
there is the word "Jiu-Jitsu" in Mein Kampf
>Jew Jitsu
*badum-tss*

>> No.17186158

>>17186100S
stalag edition from ostara and the new thomas dalton translation are sold by independent White nationalist publishers. Anyone reading the mannheim translation with the "hitler bad" quote on the back cover is giving money to jews and they're also psueds who don't understand the problem with a jew translating hitler.

>> No.17186163

>>17186039
>>17186010
not gonna reply? did the alcohol finally catch up to you?

>> No.17186173

>>17182711
He's a garbage writer

>> No.17186179
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17186179

>>17185752
>Zyklon B was for delousing
Typhoid was generally a big problem during the war
it's funny how that never gets mentioned in history class

>> No.17186197

>>17186173
>t. hasn't read what Hitler wrote about writers and speakers in Mein Kampf
extremely foreseeable desu
go >>>/r/

>> No.17186200

>>17186049
This. The holocaust literally didn't happen this thread is riddle with a bunch of Jews.

>> No.17186212

>>17186179
Well if they mentioned it then they might have explain why all those Jewish corpses were so emaciated, the same Jews they say we're executed immediately upon arrival at the camps.

>> No.17186213

>>17185783
oh shiet he called us racists guys, what do we do now???

>> No.17186214

>>17186039
>"it's amazing what /pol/ does to a person's brain."
>implying i got redpilled by browsing this shitty incel website
Are you retarded?

>> No.17186215

>>17186200
>Jews
it's prolly just plebbitors, calm your tits

>> No.17186217

>>17186197
why would I give a shit what a failed dictator thinks about actual authors?

>> No.17186227

>>17186212
it increases the quality of ze lampshades
trust me, i'm görman

>> No.17186233

>>17186163
>t. seething

>> No.17186248
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>>17186217
>a failed dictator
sure, if George Washington was a "dictator"
let's rather call him a "Caesar"

>> No.17186252

>>17186215
>it's prolly just plebbitors
You'd be surprised. These JIDF agents get paid by the (You).

>> No.17186264
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>>17186252
>JIDF agents get paid by the (You)
kinda jelly ngl

>> No.17186267

>>17186214
>>implying I got redpilled by browsing this shitty incel website
>Are you retarded?
I know, right? Almost as crazy as converting to Christianity in a church or learning to cook in cooking school.
>>17186233
I'm just waiting for a counterargument to the points I raised in my second post here >>17185439. I was hoping he'd get to something relevant before I go to sleep for the night.

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>>17186090
It was a different time.

>> No.17186301

>>17185848
>nazi
>right wing

>> No.17186342

Most people don't even realize that according to the official holohoax story, Auschwitz was the only camp where zyklon b was used as a gassing agent. All other gassings are purported to have been done with diesel exhaust fumes(lol) and a full 1.5M of the 6M figure are claimed to have been killed with bullets in the field on the eastern front by the einsatzgruppen. The einsatzgruppen also managed to, as they were retreating from the losing front, locate each of the mass graves they dug, dig them up, burn all the bodies, and then sift through the ashes to manually pulverize any remaining teeth and bones, thus leaving virtually no trace of this "holocaust by bullets".

The whole story is a farce that has been "revised" countless times after holocaust fact checkers have again and again revealed the complete impossibility of the original tales these Jews told.

>> No.17186345

>>17186267
>I'm just waiting for a counterargument to the points I raised in my second post here >>17185439.
You didn't raise any points that validate the holocaust. Mr. "I hate Jews too Im just like you goy" and you skip past your bedtime because you are literally seething in your synagogue rn. You aren't worth conversing with mate, I'd just go to reddit if I was looking for pointless exchanges.

>> No.17186361

Hitler was misrepresented by history. He didn’t dislike the Jews or think they were inferior or that there was an Aryan master-race. He wasn’t a violent eugenicist and he didn’t want to take over Europe. All the Jews were put in labor camps of their own will and given lollipops as a reward for going there. He just wanted to give them (as well as homosexuals, Gypsies, and the mentally and physically disabled) some exercise and some toughening up for the benevolent deportation he wanted to do of them to Israel so that others would stop discriminating against them. However, this tremendously peaceful, not-at-all-genocidal man was cruelly and insanely rebuffed by much of Europe for no reason. They attacked Germany for no reason, when this sublime man wanted nothing more than world peace and the best for all people, regardless of their ethnicity. The conditions at the labor camps were actually even better than those of the vast majority of German citizens at the time, and the “labor” they did was mostly just low-intensity, rewarding activities like gardening, painting, and group exercising.

>> No.17186380

>>17186345
>You aren't worth conversing with mate
Lol and yet you've been doing it for two hours.
>I'd just go to reddit if I was looking for pointless exchanges.
Most of us would prefer that, you will be in good company there. Godspeed, based retard.

>> No.17186382
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>>17186342
The mobile gassing chamber is a classic.

>> No.17186404

>>17186361
rupert murdoch here
would you like a job sir?

>> No.17186414

>>17186380
>Lol and yet you've been doing it for two hours.
I actually took the time to go out for a 30 minute run and left my computer on. By the time I came back you were still crying to me because I didn't respond to your asinine statements. I couldn't care less bro. My worldview isn't fragile and some online egoist that demands his views be challenged to validate his beliefs simply doesn't concern me.

>"Most of us would prefer that, you will be in good company there."
>Implying your talking points are not the ones regurgitated on reddit

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>>17185490
>/pol/ nutjobbery and it was just getting unbearable to listen to
I don't think you'd make a very good friend mr. shekelstein.

>> No.17186453

>>17185546
>reddit, the post

>> No.17186473

>>17186414
>actually I don't care at all, I really don't care, YOU'RE the one who cares, I don't care at all, my worldview is impervious to logic
nice, I can tell.
Congrats on the run btw, I hope you meet your weight loss goals.
>Implying
sorry, your implications are too subtle, they went over my head. Could you try to say directly what you mean?

>> No.17186482

What do I do if I have a big nose but not Jewish bros? Do you think I could infiltrate?

>> No.17186549

>Fact statement
>"Where's the proof?"
>"The burden of proof is on the one positing information outside the historical consensus"
>"That's not proof! That's an argument!"
>post excerpt from history book with sources
>"That's not proof! That's a book"
>post pictures of events
>"That's not proof! That's doctored photos!"
>post documents
>"That's not proof! Those were doctored too!"
>post quotes from leaders
>"That's not proof! That's taken out of context!"
>post interviews from people who were there
>"That's not proof! Those are paid actors!"

What exactly, would be proof? What would change your mind?

>> No.17186558

>>17186549
based

>> No.17186602

>>17182711
No, it's terrible.
t. Owns a copy

>> No.17186612

I dislike nazism as an ideology and I don't think that all jews are bad... but I am still not retarded to believe in the 6 million cookies and gas chambers.

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>>17186549
>>17186090
why do you evade addressing the physical imposibility of cremating 6 million people in 5 years?
that's over 2200 Jews per minute
you prove to me that Treblinka, Auschwitz etc. where capable of cremating just a 100 per day
even modern crematories would struggle with a task like that

>> No.17186675

>>17186612
1.83 million dead from covid due to what amounts to negligence. Just imagine if a country's infrastructure and leadership cared and wanted to do some real damage. 6 million is rooky numbers.

>> No.17186693

>>17186675
>1.83 million dead from covid
>implying
Habeas Corpus?

>> No.17186702

>>17186672
>In Auschwitz-Birkenau, the authorities had no respect for the dead and did not abide by civilian rules of cremation. They burned multiple bodies at once and the process was continuous. It is a false comparison to equate the cremations at Auschwitz-Birkenau with civilian crematoria.
>In a civilian crematorium, based on laws and out of respect for the dead or their families, each body is cremated individually so ashes can be collected and returned to the family.
>The civilian crematorium oven is heated up and cooled down for each cremation. These civilian ovens are also cleaned out after each use. The body is usually burned together with a coffin or other container, which lengthens the time required to complete the process. On average, it takes between two and three hours for each cremation, depending on the oven and the body being cremated.
>In Auschwitz-Birkenau, Nazi camp authorities were not burdened by respect for the dead or any need to consider civilian rules regarding cremation. The ovens were filled with as many bodies as could be fit into them. For instance, the men in the Sonderkommandos were instructed to combine the bodies of fat people, skeletal ‘Muselmänner,’ and children. This was done to burn the most bodies in the least amount of time; they put the bodies in the ovens continuously. The result was very high efficiency: very little fuel was needed to keep the process going for hours or days. Testimony suggests that the ovens were used continuously. Henryk Mandelbaum, a Sonderkommando at Auschwitz-Birkenau, testified as such: “. . . the crematorium [worked] full steam and each shift stayed there until the next Kommando came to work.”
>Henryk Tauber, a member of a Sonderkommando who worked in several of Birkenau’s gas chambers, stated after the war: “We worked in two shifts, a day shift and a night shift. On average, we incinerated 2,500 bodies a day.”[4] Tauber also described how the muffles were filled with multiple bodies:

>The procedure was to put the first body with the feet towards the muffle, back down and face up. Then a second body was placed on top, again face up, but head towards the muffle . . . We had to work fast, for the bodies put in first soon started to burn, and their arms and legs rose up. If we were slow, it was difficult to charge the second part of bodies . . .

>We burned the bodies of children with those of adults. First we put in two adults, then as many children as the muffle could contain. It was sometimes as many as five or six. We used this procedure so that the bodies of children would not be placed directly on the grid bars, which were relatively far apart. In this way we prevented the children from falling through into the ash bin. Women’s bodies burned much better and more quickly than those of men. For this reason, when a charge was burning badly, we would introduce a woman’s body to accelerate the combustion.

>> No.17186724

>>17186702
>Generally speaking, we burned four or five bodies at a time in one muffle, but sometimes we charged a greater number of bodies. It was possible to charge up to eight ‘Muselmanns.’
>Filip Müller, also a member of a Sonderkommando that cremated bodies, confirmed the process of multiple cremations in his memoirs. The bodies were sorted according to their combustibility: for the bodies of the well-nourished were to help burn the emaciated. Under the direction of the Kapos, the bearers began sorting the dead into four stacks. The largest consisted mainly of strong men, the next in size were women, then came children, and lastly a stack of dead Mussulmans, emaciated and nothing but skin and bones. This technique was called ‘express work,’ a designation thought up by the Kommandoführers and originating from experiments carried out in crematorium 5 in the autumn of 1943. The purpose of these experiments was to find a way of saving coke [coal] . . . Thus the bodies of two Mussulmans were cremated together with those of two children or the bodies of two well-nourished men together with that of an emaciated woman, each load consisting of three, or sometimes, four bodies.
>Rudolf Höss, the commandant of Auschwitz-Birkenau, confirmed Tauber’s and Müller’s accounts of burning multiple bodies in each muffle: “Depending on the size of the bodies, up to three bodies could be put in through one oven door at the same time. The time required for cremation also depended on the number of bodies in each retort, but on average it took twenty minutes.
>Additional instructions in September 1941 from Topf & Sons (the designers and manufacturers of the ovens) advised that “once the cremation chamber has been brought to a good red heat the bodies can be introduced one after the other in the cremation chambers.” This letter cautioned against letting the ovens cool down.
>The instructions from Topf & Sons for their double muffle furnaces suggested that a body might be added to the oven during the last 20 minutes of the prior cremation. That is, a body could be added to the oven before the last body was fully cremated. The instructions say: “As soon as the remains of the bodies have fallen from the chamotte grid to the ash collection channel below, they should be pulled forward towards the ash removal door, using the scraper. Here they can be left for a further twenty minutes to be fully consumed . . . In the meantime, further bodies can be introduced one after the other into the chambers.”[10] According to Topf’s calculations, this would result in a 25-minute burning cycle for each body

>> No.17186734

>>17186724
>Comparing the civilian cremation process to the process at Auschwitz-Birkenau is a misguided. The authorities in Auschwitz-Birkenau abandoned any respect for the dead and did not abide by civilian rules for cremation. They burned multiple bodies at one time, continuously pushing in more to keep the fires hot. The crematoria ovens at Auschwitz-Birkenau certainly cremated many more bodies than the 85,092 figure Fred Leuchter calculated.

>Further, the issue is ultimately irrelevant; when the ovens’ daily capacities were exceeded, bodies were burned in open-air pits.

>> No.17186736

>>17186702
>They burned multiple bodies at once
impossible, would take even longer
>It is a false comparison to equate the cremations at Auschwitz-Birkenau with civilian crematoria.
post pic of the ovens in Auschwitz

>oy vey, think about the poor children

>> No.17186746

>>17186612
1 million died in 3 months in Rwanda.

>> No.17186751
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17186751

>>17186736
Here's the article too. Just so you can sperg out at the list of sources and tell me how wrong it is.

https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab4-civilian-ovens-comparison/

>> No.17186756

>>17186736
see.>>17185711

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>>17186751
>literal pizza ovens
go ahead

>> No.17186780

>>17186769
see >>17186549

Heh, my captcha was chimneys

>> No.17186795

>>17186702
>lmao just jam more bodies in, that works faster

Retard

>> No.17186810

>>17186795
>does fire pit get bigger if put more wood in?
>no that can't be true. better just let it burn out and start over.

>> No.17186832

>>17186810
>human bodies fuel a flame

Holy shit just quit now. You know literally nothing about this and are just embarrassing yourself.

>> No.17186835

>>17185711
>they could burn 1.3 million a year
>3 Ovens = capacity of 250
>5 ovens = capacity of 800
>>17186751
pic shows just 2 ovens, so less than 200
let's say all six camps were equally equpped and were operating 24/7
that would still not add up to 6 million
let alone 20 or more as claimed in the past

>> No.17186848

>>17186724
>>Filip Müller
A completely discredited liar
https://codoh.com/library/document/the-lies-slips-bungles-and-perjuries-of-filip/en/

>> No.17186850

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-italian-army-called-in-to-carry-away-corpses-as-citys-crematorium-is-overwhelmed-11959994
>93 people
>crematories "overwhelmed"

>> No.17186860
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17186860

>magic ovens
karma is a bitch

>> No.17186870

All these mortuary science majors in the thread really just BTFOing the holocucks.

>> No.17186895

>>17186734
>They burned multiple bodies at one time, continuously pushing in more to keep the fires hot
Retard. Even if this was to speed up the combustion process (which it doesn't) it still would be nowhere close to any of the "verified" numbers going 24/7 without stopping for 6 years. It literally never happened.

>> No.17186897

>>17182711
If your goal is to be put on a watchlist it's well worth it

>> No.17186914
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>>17186870
you sound wonderfully salty
your magic pits of hell that can make over a million Jews vanish from the face of the earth without leaving a single bone fragment doesn't sound convincing to me

>> No.17186916

>>17186895
>>17186850
nice job ignoring the crucial bit.
>Further, the issue is ultimately irrelevant; when the ovens’ daily capacities were exceeded, bodies were burned in open-air pits.
>>17186734

>> No.17186918

>>17186897
>not already being on a watchlist
ngmi

>> No.17186927

>>17186107
>>17186134
That's the joke you fucking mongoloid. You are why white nationalism will never work

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>>17185613
>you can literally visit Auschwitz today
you can
explain (Pic related)

>> No.17186941

>>17186916
>magic open air ovens that never existed
What the cope conjuror going to conjure up next?

>> No.17186946

Why exactly would the Nazis not be killing people that they hated?

>> No.17186947

>>17186927
you make it sound like the inability of a leftist to reflect his own sentence was an uncommon thing

>> No.17186953

>>17186810
Google how hot cremation chambers have to get to actually burn a body you absolute fucking retard.

>> No.17186956

>>17186916
Do you have any idea how much fuel and time it would take to burn thousands and thousands of bodies down to ash in an open air pit?

>> No.17186958
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17186958

>>17186946
because it's cheaper to arrest them, seize their stuff and kick them out
simple as

>> No.17186983

>>17186946
Why would they have bothered to liquidate their assets and send them to Israel/Madagascar when they could just exterminate them? Why bother wasting manpower on a crazy extermination campaign while fighting a war against the entire world?

>> No.17187005

>>17186810
Listen, the happened, but you're a retard. Bodies aren't tinder you fucking idiot.

>> No.17187023

>>17186983
if they would have been on a killing spree, they would just have executed them per shot in the neck & buried them together with chalk
no ovens
funnily enough, mass graves as stated above are practically unheard of
seems waaay to convenient that all the evidence got burned (except for rings & shoes ofc)

>> No.17187043

So, wait, did the nazis really not make lamps out of Jewish skin, and couches full of Jewish hair? That's what I was taught in school.

>> No.17187086
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>>17187043
but wait, there is more..

>> No.17187130
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>>17182711
Nazis were idiots

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>>17187130
>You will believe what we tell you, goy
>And you will defend it

>> No.17187167

>>17185558
You're a fucking idiot, either propose an argument or shut the fuck up you pseud idiot

>> No.17187172

>I heard you were expressing illegal opinions?
>Too bad, gonna terminate your online presence

>> No.17187180

>>17185546
Hope the faggots on social justice journals enjoy doc review, Heil Hitler

>> No.17187181
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17187181

>>17187172
exactly

>> No.17187198

>>17187130
It's sad to think some tranny has actually sat and created that in their spare time. Pathetic.

>> No.17187203
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17187203

>you dumb goyim cattle make no decisions
>we alone do

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17187217

>rules for thee, but not for me

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17187241

>you think your labor has value?
>we can devalue your currency whenever we please

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>> No.17187265

ok guys
maybe it happened
but they deserved it

>> No.17187267

>>17185455
You're a faggot. I already know what you look like.

>> No.17187282

>>17187265
i don't think it happened
but it absolutely should

>> No.17187296

This is fucking lit you niggers. Stop talking about gay bullshit and start reading. Literally it's that simple, just read. Then once you finish reading, maybe post a little about what you read. If you don't like the sound of that, then just fuck off. GAY

>> No.17187306

>>17182711
Stalag edition or Ford edition imo.

>> No.17187311
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>>17186672
are you retarded
it's 2 people per minute

>> No.17187329

>>17187311
>perfect conditions
>24 hours a day
>beginning from day 1 and not stopping for 5 years
>it takes between two and three hours for each cremation
Even given your broken math, does 2 minute magic combustion seem reasonable?
>have fuel provisions constantly
>no time for transporting bodies
>it takes

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>>17187311
>(((6 000 000
kek

>> No.17187406

>>17184879
His sanity, morality, and agenda

>> No.17187455

>>17187329
No I don't think that all of those things are reasonable to assume.
Just like how I don't think it's reasonable to assume every death in the holocaust was from people being incinerated, and disproving that the holocaust happened just by saying that the ovens could not handle the capacity of 6 million people is a special kind of retardation.
The holocaust was an event that spanned all of nazi controlled europe, and the death toll is not estimated from Auschwitz or the death camps alone. They are estimated to not even be responsible for half of the deceased.
Dude you eventually have to come to the conclusion that you are grasping at air and your most potent response thus far has been that it does not seem reasonable to you, which I hate to say does not stack up very well against the decades of research that resulted in the approximately 6 mil estimate.

>> No.17187477

>>17185198
Don’t argue with these types. You want them busy burning bridges. When they’re shit doesn’t fly on the webernet they will turn to family, friends, coworkers, and employers or maybe even express their antisocial behavior through petty crime.

>> No.17187484

>>17187455
The 6 million number is not the result of "decades of research". It's completely made up. Different "official" sources have given different numbers throughout the years. The death total at literally every single "death camp" (most notably Auschwitz) has been quietly revised downwards year after year but yet the 6 million total literally never changes.

It is a completely made up meme number.

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>>17187477
>Don’t argue with these types. You want them busy burning bridges. When they’re shit doesn’t fly on the webernet they will turn to family, friends, coworkers, and employers or maybe even express their antisocial behavior through petty crime.

>> No.17187664

>>17187484
That's right. It's actually higher than 6 million. 6 million is a conservative estimate.

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>>17187664
>It's actually higher than 6 million
yeah no, ofc, it was 20 million
at least a billion
oh my hundred gazillion dead jewish children
truly tragic - how could anyone doubt the accuracy of the supposed records of national socialist germany?
we will never know

>> No.17188519

>>17187130
werent they all around 130 iq when they tested them in the nuremberg trials or some shit

>> No.17188548

>>17186672
nobody says 6 million were cremated

>> No.17188688

>>17187797
>le fuhrer pewdiepie xD
go back to daily stormer faggot

>> No.17188726

>>17185198
>You mean the systematic extermination of (...) Slavs
Weird that some Slavs like Bulgarians and Croats were allies...

>> No.17188891

>>17182711
>Is it worth it?
No, it's quite boring and badly written

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>>17182711
I remember the chapters relating to the nature of propaganda being insightful, especially from a lens of studying speechwriting. And in the beginning offers a good critique on the historical movements if you didn't already know much about them. As he talks through the process of spreading influence it serves as a reminder of the importance of real irl public assembly to do so, which the public now not has due to muh covid
>>17182720
You got filtered by the academics who push the poor writing meme so it can stay consistent with the accepted narrative of hitler as a deranged sociopath. The tone isn't any less eloquent than a typical memoir and authors shouldn't need to be stoic or suppress their emotion.

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>>17188688
>daily stormer
Mache ich etwa auf dich den Eindruck eines verfickten Amerikaners?

>> No.17189424

>>17186672
>why do you evade addressing the physical imposibility of cremating 6 million people in 5 years?
No one has ever said that.

>> No.17189436

So does anybody have an EPUB or a pdf of the Dalton translation?

>> No.17189466

They make themselves so obvious and they are blind to the fact.

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>>17185877
>>17185890
you can lead the horse to water, but you cannot make it drink.
this board is nice to get literary advice, but when it comes to things like this they go full shutdown.

>> No.17189987

>>17189955
Jannies just deleted this thread earlier so go figure: >>/lit/thread/S17189393

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>>17189987
yea its easier to silence the opposition for them

>> No.17190625

>>17189436
Its on zlib

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>>17182711

>> No.17191206

>>17182720
Fucking Anglos I swear to god...

>> No.17191226

>>17190015
/pol/

>> No.17191227

The left says not to engage in discourse with faggots like the one's in this thread but it's just so fun. I can't stop.

>> No.17191250

This thread should be deleted.

>> No.17191281

>>17188519
Woudn't that place them at like 110 by today's standards? Literal midwits

>> No.17191324

>>17184146
It's always good to read someone's words first hand, but it sounds like you aren't interested from an intellectual curiosity, but to corroborate views you already hold

>> No.17191335

>>17185198
It's no use, their brains are too propagandized from /pol/. They come here looking for books they can use to sound like of an intellectual when they argue, not to actually study and learn with an open mind

>> No.17191352

>>17191335
How doth thou justify thine usages of timber plank formed entryways?

>> No.17191383

>>17191227
The left actually does encourage collaborating with fascism especially in so far as both are allied against the bourgeoise and global neoliberalism, the difference being that I am actually talking about the left, you are talking about golem mutts

>> No.17191389

>>17191250
anudda shoah

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>>17191335
i love being demographically replaced, dont you?
https://gefira.org/en/2018/07/27/sweden-will-remain-sweden-but-in-name/

>> No.17191410

>>17191383
>golem mutts
It's really impressive how basically every possible thing ends in a No True Scotsman with you people.
>the left is with us, just not THEM
>the evidence is out there, just not THAT
>there are good people, just not THOSE
It's pretty funny the use of plausible deniability insofar that you speak with terms that shallowly give the viability of good faith, but couch terms within those statements that speak the opposite. Neat rhetorical tools of control.

>> No.17191424

not really
self-aggrandizement and self-pity writ large.

if you're feeling sorry for yourself and feel part of some kind of elite people, I'd recommend the bible...the torah if you're jewish

>> No.17191460

>>17191410
Does the bull's cum taste like onions?

>> No.17191482

>>17191460
I’m a low test vegan soi boi discord tranny cat girl who never participated in eating raw onions on /fit/. I wouldn’t know.

>> No.17191768

>>17186672
6 million in 5 years
1.2 million per year
100,000 per month
Say they didn't gas anyone on weekends, then:
~4550 per day
Say they slept 8 hours and took turns the remaining 16 each day, then:
~285 per hour
That's less than 5 joos per minute

You just proved that you have a 1 digit IQ, congrats anon

>> No.17191793

>>17191768
Not to mention the points of:
>Say they slept 8 hours
>didn't gas anyone on weekends
Are concepts foreign to wartime military personnel. War doesn't sleep in or take weekends off.

>> No.17191856

>>17186895
>pic shows just 2 ovens, so less than 200
Ok fair, say 100 total per 2 ovens
>let's say all six camps were equally equpped and were operating 24/7
Fair enough, let's say they burned 1 round of 100 joos per hour in each camp

100 joos * 6 camps (all equally equipped) * 24 hours (at a rate of 1 round per hour) * 365 * 5 years = ~26 000 000

>that would still not add up to 6 million
Nah you're right, it adds up to even more, 26 million

So even if not all camps were equally equipped, or if they didn't work 24/7, 6 million was not too hard to reach

>> No.17192226

>>17191768
>>17191856
>believing the Third Reich gassed and cremated 5 joos per day, simultaneously to continued war efforts at two fronts
it's still (You)
but you wont accept this probability, since you tell yourself that you "prevent something like that from ever happening again", no matter on how many corpses you have to step in the process

>> No.17192260

>>17182711
>>17184295

>> No.17192286

>>17186049
Started watching this but stopped at the part about german occupation of chzechoslovakia where the document was saying that hitler had to do this because german minority in czechoslovakia was horibly opressed which is absolute bulshit. I coundn't find the rest credible after this.

>> No.17192306

>>17192226
a better point to make is about the amount of energy needed to cremate that many bodies while fighting a war, i think some anon did it and the number he got was as around half the explosives dropped in WW1

>> No.17192545

>>17191768
Only 1 million, according even to official Jewish sources, were gassed and burnt. 3 million killed outright on the Eastern Front, and 2 million died of disease/starvation in the camps. If you are going to try to say the holocaust was fake, at least do some precursory research

Also this: >>17191856

>> No.17192567

>>17190015
What /pol/ and watching fox does to a mf

>> No.17193434

>>17192545
It's convenient that you leave out that those figures are the current revision after decades of backpedaling, during which dozens of people have been imprisoned for doubting facts that jews have now been forced to admit. Doubting that a million jews were gassed in a room that doesn't even show chemical traces of the supposed gas used, or doubting that open-air pits can easily reduce millions of bones to dust, or doubting primitive crematoriums can outperform modern crematoriums by an order of magnitude, or doubting the numbers when Simon Weisenthal added 5 million non-jews to the 6 million number at a whim, or doubting ad hoc cope like >>17186916, all make one a cartoon 'holocaust denier' that deserves ridicule.

>>17186939
It originally connected underground.

>> No.17193486

>>17185198
>extermination of the Jews, homosexuals, Slavs, and other undesirables
Don't forget the work-shy. NEETs truly are the most oppressed minority.

>> No.17193878

>>17188726
You’re genuinely retarded, from a Croat.

>> No.17194008

>>17192567
Why don't you try an argument?

>> No.17194892

>>17182711
Are you right wing nut? Yeah it's worth it. Are you left wing nut? Yeah its worth it.
Why? Cause its a very influential book for a period of history so why not read it you cucklord

>> No.17194982

>>17194008
Why you always wanna argue? Why can’t you take a hit and move past it.