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17186626 No.17186626 [Reply] [Original]

Why is this cover still being printed? Even if you like the image (which I don't), the font and the placement of the text are so ill-fitting.

Do you think the people responsible for this cover read books? What kind of people do you think they are? The kind who, in conversation, only wait for themselves to speak?

>> No.17186642

there's some fucked up people out there anon.
some of them get jobs as graphic designers

>> No.17186644

>>17186626
People who read books don't care. Try /fa/

>> No.17186658

>>17186644
But I read books and I care and I'm OP.

>> No.17186679

Unless the cover is a photograph/movie poster I don't care.

>> No.17186687

>>17186658
>But I read books
Nah, you just maintain an image.

>> No.17186689

>>17186642
This was designed by Chip Kidd, who is hugely successful. Make of it what you will.

>> No.17186701
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>>17186689
see, that's just disappointing that he could have done a nice minimal cover but didn't. everybody fucks up sometimes I suppose

>> No.17186732

>>17186689
Thanks for giving me his name. I might reach out to him if he reads his emails. I'll even be polite, I just want to know his reasoning.

>> No.17187818

>>17186626
No McCarthy book has a great cover. And picador's binding sucks donkey balls, fuck them.

>> No.17188052
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>>17187818

>> No.17188060

>>17188052
Shame it didn't sell well despite all the shouting.

>> No.17188070

>>17188060
I like that Suttree cover but it's true that his cover designs are seldom attractive. I didn't know that design didn't sell well. His best novel.

>> No.17188093

>>17188070
Both Suttree and BM only sold 2500 copies of their first editions.

>> No.17188106

>>17186644
You’re a bit wrong on that, many writers have gone to great lengths in the presentation of their book. William Gass not only designed and planned the cover of The Tunnel, he also had it published wrapped in black cloth sash.

>> No.17188122

>>17186626
This is one of my favorite book covers

>> No.17188125

>>17188093
That is how many copies were printed, they don't print 20,000 copies for a first run and then throw away the ones which don't sell after a year. First edition sales are fairly meaningless and primarily a marketing thing.

>>17188106
Gass is smart enough to know that many will buy it just because it looks nice on the shelf.

>> No.17188138

>>17188122
Not trolling - how could you like that? It looks like a generic preloaded desktop background.

>> No.17188139

>>17186626
>Why is this cover still being printed? Even if you like the image (which I don't), the font and the placement of the text are so ill-fitting.
WHO FUCKING CARES? It's a zillionth edition printing that's worth next to nothing and will never be worth anything, and the cover doesn't change the words inside.

>> No.17188151
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Fun fact. For the Road, Cormac requested a photo by Andrew Moore of a collapsed theater with no text except for on the spine. Here's a side by side of what he wanted (not sure if this is the photo he chose) vs what he got.

>> No.17188154

>>17186626
Some of the others in the series are good, thinking of Suttree and Child of God. This one is pretty bad tho.

>> No.17188190
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>>17188138
I like simple covers and I think this is simple. I like how it also isn’t dark or edgy while still remaining authentic to the book. Moby Dick has had a ton of “clever” covers but pic related is my favorite, and probably my favorite cover of all time

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the Chinese cover looks pretty kino

>> No.17188198

>>17188125
I made a mistake with first edition. The book sold 2500 copies only, until it was reprinted in the 90s after ATPH became a bestseller. This was the first and only edition until the 90s in my knowledge.

>> No.17188202

>>17188197
How many languages have BM been translated into?

>> No.17188209

>>17188190
Most of the previous editions' covers were pretty simple. The only one that I think is worse is the one similar to the Suttree posted upthread that is all text.

>>17188197
This is fantastic. I'm just gonna buy it.

>> No.17188216

I'm trans btw not sure if that matters

>> No.17188239

>>17188216
Trans...atlantic! Hey-oh! We representin!

>> No.17188351

>>17186689
>>17186701
>>17186732
Chip Kidd is fucking famous and had his own book and bring a graphic design student that is really good. He will not give a shit about your opinion. He is famous for breaking graphic design rules and getting away with it. This cover is intriguing but yeah I did like the older paperback cover that I owned. Chip Kidd does pop art not classic design

>> No.17188384
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> . His most notable book cover design was for Michael Crichton's Jurassic Park novel, which was so successful that it carried over into marketing for the film adaptation. Oliver Sacks and other authors have contract clauses stating that Kidd design their book covers.[6] Kidd’s influence on the book-jacket has been amply noted—Time Out New York has said that “the history of book design can be split into two eras: before graphic designer Chip Kidd and after.”

y'all should know this already smdh

>> No.17188390

>>17188384
This man is Peter Griffin

>> No.17188403

>>17188390
kek

>> No.17188418

>>17188351
>Chip Kidd is fucking famous and had his own book and bring a graphic design student that is really good. He will not give a shit about your opinion. He is famous for breaking graphic design rules and getting away with it. This cover is intriguing but yeah I did like the older paperback cover that I owned. Chip Kidd does pop art not classic design

Most of us are beyond the sycophantic "omg he's well regarded in small circles" stage. Please try to catch up. "He's like fucking FAMOUS okay?"

>> No.17188459

>>17186644
>People who read books don't care
Yes we do. Paying for something that looks needlessly ugly isn't the best

>> No.17188484

>>17188151
That orange text edition of The Road looks horrendous. It's incredible that someone actually got paid to do that. Likely someone who was even formally trained

>> No.17188492

>>17188418
holy hell you're coping. if you don't know who chip kidd is, you're fucking ignorant. that is my point. the point is he's so fucking famous you're an uncultured pseud if you've never heard of him. the idea that you would email him and complain is preposterous

>> No.17188515

>>17187818
>And picador's binding sucks donkey balls
Mechanically or aesthetically?

>> No.17188520

>>17186644
I read that very edition of Blood Meridian and frequently wished I had bought a different one.

>> No.17188528

>>17188351
His brother is my manager at the fast food restaurant I work at
Good guy

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>>17188492
Okay, Chip. So you got my email. I've attached some of your ideas for The Road here. Do you want to explain these too? Or are you gonna do the cope thing again?

>> No.17188536

>>17188528
That's pretty funny to hear. His brother is big shot. Possibly the most famous graphic designer alive

>> No.17188541

>>17186626
think this is one of those memes where a publisher applies a single design template to every single one of an author's books

>> No.17188542

>>17188530
Middle one is dope. Left is really bad

>> No.17188544

>>17188530
The author has final approval on every cover, you absolute knob

>> No.17188555

>>17188530
oof, why is this guy famous?

>> No.17188626

>>17188542
They're all terrible and the "thought I nailed it" caption reads like an intentional joke

>> No.17188672

>>17188530
the guy just cannot do text well

>> No.17188697

>>17188672
It honestly seems like he either had a thing against McCarthy or his reading of him was just totally off. Kidd's other work is pretty good.

>> No.17188804

>>17188515
Mechanically. The first few pages come off in a week of opening/closing the books. Unfortunately, only they have decent covers for BM and border trilogy.

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>> No.17188877

>>17186626
The only remotely decent cover from this generation of Cormac McCarthy books is Child of God.

>> No.17188882

>>17188870
This is the cover the book deserves. Based Slavs

>> No.17189076
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>>17188384
I'm really failing to see what's so special about him. Even the Jurassic Park logo, he just made the skeleton and it wasn't until working with the movie company that they made the logo everyone thinks of now.

>> No.17189093

>>17189076
>what's so special about him
He created the modern generic book cover. I am not a fan of it, but I prefer boring old cloth covered hardbacks, so what do I know.

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>>17189076
>>17189093
> Simple = BAD!!
> Sales = BAD!!

>> No.17190397

>>17188870
Those stupid dark gray boxes utterly ruin it. Starting to think I am the only man on earth who understands graphic design.

>> No.17190587

>>17188351
Oh so this is the bastard who's responsible for this wave of soulless, identical paperback covers?

>> No.17190605
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>>17188351
He looks really low-IQ. Possibly even Down's adjacent. Fetal alcohol syndrome? Cant quite place it. Clearly a tard though. Those vacant eyes, the dumb jaw.

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>>17188555

Because he's literally a gay Jew.

>>17188351

Go jump off a cliff. We hear the same kind of responses when calling out other parasites like Terry Richardson. Are we hillbilly incels as well?

>> No.17191099

>>17188197
Looks like a Sleep album

>> No.17191167

>>17190379
this but unironically

>> No.17191174

>>17190379
>I prefer boring old cloth covered hardbacks
> Simple = BAD!!
huh

>> No.17192236

>>17188492
Never heard of him you faggot

>> No.17192257

>>17192236
nobody except graphic design nerds have he's just being confrontational on the internet for shits

>> No.17192276

>>17186626
Imagine being such a self conscious, posturing faggot that you get this worked up about a book’s cover. Thanks for the shitty thread OP but at least you got people talking about Chip Kidd

>> No.17192303

>>17188384
>Fat Jew "artist"
>stained clothing

Disgusting and typical.

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Choose, lit.

>> No.17192412

>>17192398
>Fagner
none

>> No.17192430

>>17192398
4 or 5

>> No.17192566

>>17192398
2

>> No.17193069

>>17190605
Read the Chip Kidd memoir he got nudes of his professor or some shit, guy was famous in his own right but I don't know the whole story.
He's not a dumb man, even if you want to be mad online about his success.

>> No.17193132

>>17193069
His work looks like shit and he looks like a retard.

>> No.17193164

>>17186626
I'm a graphic designer and it's not that bad.

>> No.17193176

>>17193069
Why do you keep mentioning how famous Kidd and his nameless gay professor are as though it's a virtue or even a trump card in a conversation about his merits? The guy's art is okay at best, and it's often being plastered on timeless works of genius that should always either be reprinted with first edition artwork, or at least with something by an actual artist instead of a talentless small-souled scrapbooking faggot in a grease-stained polo

>> No.17193885

>>17193069
Why do you type like an illiterate and assume that anything that you just said warrants merit?