/lit/ - Literature

>>17194747

Quentin Hoare

>>17194747
The Protocols of Zion

>>17194756
>>17194772
serious>>17194772
answers only please

Why not just read Gramsci himself? Not the full prison notebooks, but something like a Gramsci reader or excerpts from prison notebooks?

>>17194747
The modern Austrian/German identitarians also cite him.
I expect he can be read directly.

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>>17194843
what im getting from your post is gramsci is very transgressive and you're not happy about him

>>17195024
Good observation

>>17194843
Gramsci is one of the intellectual fathers of the most significant post-WW2 far right movements, the Nouvelle Droite. Very few faggot university leftists like Gramsci, because he actually tells you how to crush a capitalist oligarch class that owns the hearts and minds of a docile people. Yet GRECE saw his potential immediately. Gramsci is a good lad.

>>17195054
but he was a marxist himself and inspired the frankfurt school. as we know all marxists are rats. there's no doubt that any of these people were marxists and subverters of western society.
if you want to subvert the subverters, you don't need to read a marxist to gain permission.

>>17195054
>Very few faggot university leftists like Gramsci
you've clearly never stepped foot into a university lol

>>17195086
Who better knows how to subvert a Marxist than fellow Marxist.

>>17195092
>gatekeeping bourgeois academia
Case in point. I would make fun of you but you've already embarrassed yourself enough. Enjoy going to zoom class at your second choice school, I'm sure your BA in social science will make you a fine Minister of Vaping when the revolution comes.

>>17195086
The Frankfurt School has plenty to offer as well. The first generation died in complete despair while its offspring joined forces with pathetic bourgeois college students and other assorted New Left garbage. All of the best blood of '68 killed itself and all the prestige of '68 (such as it was) was inherited by the faggots and pansies who never intended to do anything. The same people who now watch tranny "debates" on youtube.

Even Marcuse, who was probably a CIA asset and either way a complete retard for thinking that the bourgeois intellectual class could actually be useful for anything, has lots to offer.

>>17195095
leftists don't read rightists cause rightists aren't approved thinkers by the system. leftists are approved by the system, so you feel the need to read them to gain intellectual permission to think a certain way.
I'd bet my dick there isn't a single valuable to lesson to take from their intellectually dishonest, lying, obscurantist writing.

>>17195124
Oops, I have to apologise to >>17195092 for that first part of my post, I misread yours. I thought you were being a little bitch and going "lmao i bet u havent even gone to university like me." I just hate rich pseudo-leftist FAGGOTS so much that as soon as I saw that, I overreacted.

But I do agree, there are some Gramsci fans, just not nearly as many as the usual "cultural marxist" fare. The only real Gramscians I've met were "problematic" by twitter leftist standards.

>>17195149
>>17195124
crypto-commie filth.

>>17195200
dumbfuck mutt

>>17196161
Yeah, I'm American. Proud of it. Problem?

>>17196188
not my problem, only yours
my condolences

>>17194747
The Antonio Gramsci reader

cultural hegemony is like the established values and ideas reinforced by institutions imposed on the populace that secures the system's rule

>>17195086
marxism is good. frankfurt school is good. rightists are retards that belong in camps.

>>17194747
Don't bother. Gramsci was a faggot.

>>17195086
>muh frankfurt school
Have you ever even read any of the Frankfurt School? You'd probably agree on a lot. It's only really Marcuse who was terrible.

>>17196230
>not my problem, only yours
>my condolences
Kek

>>17194747
Just read him. I recommend reading the first 277 pages of Selections From the Prison Notebooks. Pay close attention to where he discusses the intellectuals, the extended political party, hegemony, authority, and the passive revolution.

>>17196544
Combine him with Ellul for maximal results

>>17196544
good suggestion

>>17195086
read adornos culture industry. his auschwitz obsession is insanely retarded, but the culture industry could have been written by a throne and altar reactionary. also, disregarding marxist analysis just because le evil red santa is retarded. the current (almost) global regime integrated different ideas from different ideologies, so it can be helpful analyzing it from different angles. you wouldn't disregard books written on guerilla warfare by communists if you wanted to wage a guerilla war or a war against insurgents just becuase they were reds now would you?

>>17196382
t. middle class privileged white kid who never worked hard

>>17197738
Does the working class want help from us middle class white ppl or not? I get this attitudes way to often from poor people

>>17198018
The problem is that the "help" the middle class thinks they're offering doesn't help the working class at all. The working class cares about working conditions and financial stability, not social justice and reparations. Importing foreign workers and promoting degeneracy does not help the indigenous working class.

>>17196230
KEEEEEEK

>>17198030
That sucks. I just want to build socialism so you can work safely and spend more time with your families and retire earliar

>>17198182
Do you want to build socialism, or help the working class? Those are mutually exclusive.
>so you can work safely and spend more time with your families and retire earliar
Noble, but that means you have to oppose immigration and social justice. Are you willing to do that?

>>17198018
>>17198182
The funny thing is most middle class "socialists" don't even like the working class, they hate them (they're racist, sexist, homophobic etc). They just want to pretend to help them in order to feel better about themselves.

>>17198215
They are hard to like. I don't think anyone should expect to like them. But I think capitalism ruined many of them. They live lives of quiet desperation between Walmart shifts and pumped full of brainless christianity and their reality TV star heros

>>17198443
>They are hard to like.
No they're not. Most of them are decent, kindhearted, hard working people who have been misled by propaganda. You've just proven my point. You don't want to help them, you want to feel better about yourself for having "helped" them.
>But I think capitalism ruined many of them
Not just them, it ruined everything.
> They live lives of quiet desperation between Walmart shifts and pumped full of brainless christianity and their reality TV star heros
You should talk to people outside of your bubble more often. You don't seem to know much about the working class. People like you are part of the problem.

>>17198470
No one should expect to be liked. We don't have to like people to help them. We don't have secret ulterior motives you can just make up. Grow up

Leftism doesn't work.

>>17198479
>No one should expect to be liked. We don't have to like people to help them. We don't have secret ulterior motives you can just make up. Grow up
We've hit peak retard here boys. It pains me there's so many ignorant selfish people like yourself out there pretending to be helping others.

>>17198493
You're being a baby

>>17198546
>You're being a baby

>>17195138
>I'd bet my dick there isn't a single valuable to lesson to take from their intellectually dishonest, lying, obscurantist writing.

>>17195086
You have never read anything by the Frankfurt School.

>muh frankfurt school muh western civilization
Here is Pope Benedict favoringly citing Adorno and Horkheimer.
https://zcomm.org/zblogs/the-strange-case-of-pope-benedict-and-the-frankfurt-school-by-jeff-richards/

He also smoked hookah with Ernst Bloch.
There is nothing wrong with the Frankfurt School there is something wrong with your retarded ass and the brainlessness and tastelessness of all rightists.

Gramshi is Albanias biggest achievement