/lit/ - Literature

Hunger Games XD

>>17221536
>Books on breaching the capital then not doing anything?
They could’ve at least set some shit on fire desu

They are using this event to spread a newly manufactured, much more deadly, strain of COVID-19.

He remembers being born somewhere, having believed in native errors, having proposed principles and preached inflammatory stupidities. He blushes for it . . . and strives to abjure his past, his real or imaginary fatherlands, the truths generated in his very marrow. He will find peace only after having annihilated in himself the last reflex of the citizen, the last inherited enthusiasm. How could the heart’s habits still chain him, when he seeks liberation from genealogies and when even the ideal of the ancient sage, scorner of all cities, seems to him a compromise? The man who can no longer take sides because all men are necessarily right and wrong, because everything is at once justified and irrational-—that man must renounce his own name, tread his identity underfoot, and begin a new life in impassibility or despair. Or otherwise, invent another genre of solitude, expatriate himself in the void, and pursue—by means of one exile or another—the stages of uprootedness. Released from all prejudices, he becomes the unusable man par excellence, to whom no one turns and whom no one fears because he admits and repudiates everything with the same detachment. Less dangerous than a heedless insect, he is nonetheless a scourge for Life, for it has vanished from his vocabulary, with the seven days of the Creation. And Life would forgive him, if at least he relished Chaos, which is where Life began. But he denies the feverish origins, beginning with his own, and preserves, with regard to the world, only a cold memory, a polite regret.

>>17221548
I don't know what you're talking about anon, I just want some book recs.

>>17221550
Big if true

Reminder that the end of history is legit, 100% not debunked.

ALL the NPCs still want the atheist democracy over any form of government. That's right, even the muslims wanted that with their arab revolutions. Same thing for the slavs. Same thing for the turks.

Atheists keep saying FUKUYAMA is wrong because they need to feel threaten al the time, they need a bogus enemy and feeling like an underdog.

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>>17221576
Technology is the way out bud.

>>17221561
We have been hearing this since Napoleon

>>17221536
Unironically Mao.

/lit/ will hate this, but Animal Farm.

>>17221536
There was no revolution or coup this was just the petit-bourgeois class blowing off some steam. They literally just threw a house party in the Capitol. Even crazier shit happens in other countries with shit getting lit on fire and people getting beaten to death it's just barely reported on the news. All this just showed is that rightism is no threat to the establishment because it is the establishment. American rightists are also too fat and stupid to actually do anything. Rightism has no real content or goals. All this was just aesthetics and catharsis. If your take on this is anything other than that it was funny or that it didn't matter you are a retard and know nothing about revolution or ita history.

>>17221550
source?

>>17221669
I hope you have the same take on the 5 months of blm riots

>>17221669
The cops shot a woman in the neck and killed her today. The cops never shot antifa even when they are throwing molotov and fireworks at them.

>>17221679
People have already forgotten those happened. Today's events will be forgotten in a few weeks.

Hell, remember Charlottesville? Already a long-gone memory.

>>17221663
What a shite book, and I say that as someone who really likes his Orwell.

>>17221548
no, the least they could have done was not breach the capital.

>>17221679
Say what you want about left wing protests like OWS or the BLM protests in the summer, but those were protests with actual disgruntled working people that were protesting actual issues (income inequality and police brutality). Rightist protests on the other hand have no real goal. This one in particular was just about the cult of personality surrounding Blumpf and the nonsense notion of voter fraud.

>>17221693
>The cops shot a woman in the neck and killed her today
Hmmm... based alert?

>>17221693
If all the retards there were shot that would have been a net good for everyone.

>>17221699
What are you talking about? I liked it

>>17221536
So their big plan was to storm the capitol and take goofy selfies? Truly revolutionary.

>>17221725
They stopped the count. I guess the media isn't reporting what the point was.

>>17221708
This.
Taking selfies in offices is a sad revolution.
Fucking trumptards.

>>17221708
I'll give you a pity (you) anon.

>>17221536
For a second I was hoping they blew the top off the White House

>>17221708
>those were protests with actual disgruntled working people that were protesting actual issues (income inequality and police brutality).
LOL

OWS yes, BLM is literally funded by billionaires

>>17221725
>candid footage of everyone at the Capitol today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ5Ha6l6lhE

>>17221536
>Trillions spent on defense
>Cops literally let everyone inside and let them do fuck all
>National guard doesn't give a shit
>Wild house party at the Capitol
>No tear gas, no rubber bullets, no mass arrests
Rightists are no threat to the establishment. Rightists are the establishment.

>>17221708
>nonsense notion of voter fraud.
yeah that could never happen, the US gov is so trustworthy

>>17221730
Postponing the count for a brief period isn't going to change anything.

>>17221743
A certain brand, certainly.

>>17221536
anything by lenin

>>17221750
I had a leftist friend tell me that unironically today. I had to walk away before I said something very heated

>>17221743
lel no you are still pussies who think and say exactly what you are supposed to

>>17221750
Trump is a billionaire part of the establishment and Democrats are too pussy to do anything other than performative acts. Republicans are weasels and will break all the rules they want on the other hand while Democrats let them because they are cucks. Republicans had the advantage this election and even tried to sabotage the mail and they still lost lmao.

>>17221743
They shot to kill with literally zero warning. Clearly there was something important being threatened on the other side of those doors.

>>17221693
must of been a secret meeting the police had where they were told to shoot atleast 1 innocent bystander today per quota

>>17221751
Burning down small businesses isn't going to stop police brutality either, but that didn't stop you.

>>17221763
>part of the establishment and Democrats are too pussy to do anything other than performative acts.
It's funny how you have the complete opposite picture of what reality actually is

>>17221669

Libshittery is the establishment and rightism is disguised libshittery as is leftism. Movements in opposition to the establishment get deplatformed and are socially costly. A back and forth of violence towards and from the establishment is not a point we've reached yet but it is a possibility. Also your image would be accurate if you reversed the left and right because contemporary leftism supports the current establishment even if they pretend not to. The GF riots were treated with kids gloves by police

>>17221764
>Cops are still thugs at the end of the day
Damn who would have thought. Maybe we should defund and demilitarize them.

truly a third world country

>>17221721
As far as political commentary goes, it's pretty weak. Dumbing down the events of the Russian Revolution and turning it into a fable for kids with talking animals isn't really my cup of tea. You pretty much don't need to read the book if you read the summary on the backcover:

>Stalin is a pig! Could you believe it?!

I've read most if not all of Orwell's books, including a lot of his journalism, and this one os by far it's worst.

>>17221778
How's that working out in Minneapolis lol

>>17221775
The police literally ran away from BLM riots.

>>17221774
Cope. Republicans are weasels and Democrats are cucks. This is reality.

>your violent protest against our decrepit and corrupt government isn't legitimate! stop it right now!
>noooo YOUR violent protest against our decrepit and corrupt government isn't legitimate! YOU stop it right now!
The American media is a real trip.

>21st century: All other forms of social division will take a backseat to the huge, ever-deepening gulf between mega-city cosmopolitanism and “provincialism”. (2.IV.4 and 5, 2.XI.5)

>It will no longer matter whether one is ethnically Russian, German, Brazilian, or Nigerian, religious or non-religious, male, female, or Other, or indeed sexually reproductive or sterile. The only distinction that will be made will be between the inhabitants of a few “gigantic” global metropolises, and the inhabitants of land, town, and city outside these places, who will be backwards rustics and provincials. Cosmopolitanism will assume and invert all of the social superiority previously assigned to the noble class. “Rights” will become the privileges of these new elites. Even those urbanites who grow tired of the pretentiousness of the mega-city will prove unable to go back to their roots, given the ostracism this would involve.

Spengler saw this all coming a hundred years ago.

>>17221771
What does BLM have to do with this? I'm not a leftist, but I'm not a filthy Trump supporter either.

>>17221778
The cops didn't shoot one single BLM or antifa protestor despite taking fire from them on multiple occasions. Your "who's a real threat" theory isn't support by facts.

So does anyone agree this was staged to make populism and the fringe right look bad?

>>17221536
The State and Revolution by Lenin
What is to Be Done by Lenin
and of course the Communist Manifesto by Marx and Engels

>>17221804
Might have been some agitators but there are plenty of people dumb enough to just do this on their own

>>17221804
No, it clearly wasn't staged.

>>17221804
No the reality is that the fringe right and populism are just bad. If you are not a communist kill yourself.

>>17221763
I dont disagree that trump is garish but
>Trump is a billionaire part of the establishment
its not that rare for a higher up cult of personality guy to be on the """side""" of the commoners in a populist way. Think ceaser or Napoleon (not saying trump is either in terms of skill)

>burgerland is literally becoming fallout
Nice

>>17221804
Did they stage the chick shot through the neck who bled out on livestream? Some the Alex Jones nutters will probably say she was a "crisis actor" actually.

>>17221774
I seriously wonder how many people who spout shit like that are just larping for the yous.

>>17221804
probably not. Though the fact that it was mostly a grassroots kinda thing seems odd giving the ostensible nature of the left and right.

>>17221812
I'm not saying the crowds of people there were all spooks, just that it seemed fishy that they made it into the state capitol building of a country that is called a military industrial complex.

>>17221576
>bro just die of famines and disease bro

>>17221826
Are you seriously comparing Trump to Caesar or Napoleon? Lmao. The guy is a joke and represents none of that.

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>>17221828
>And its Sam Hyde who Lead the Charge.

>>17221847
Not an argument.

>>17221841
The government was spooked to call in the national guard because antifa made such a stink about it in Portland, so they were underprepared for the first rush. By the end they had huge police presence.

>>17221669
Idolaters by instinct, we convert the objects of our dreams and our interests into the Unconditional History is nothing but a procession of false Absolutes, a series of temples raised to pretexts, a degradation of the mind before the Improbable. Even when he turns from religion, man remains subject to it; depleting himself to create fake gods, he then feverishly adopts them: his need for fiction, for mythology triumphs over evidence and absurdity alike. His power to adore is responsible for all his crimes: a man who loves a god unduly forces other men to love his god, eager to exterminate them if they refuse. There is no form of intolerance, of proselytism or ideological intransigence which fails to reveal the bestial substratum of enthusiasm. Once man loses his faculty of indifference he becomes a potential murderer; once he transforms his idea into a god the consequences are incalculable. We kill only in the name of a god or of his counterfeits: the excesses provoked by the goddess Reason, by the concept of nation, class, or race are akin to those of the Inquisition or of the Reformation. The ages of fervor abound in bloody exploits: a Saint Teresa could only be the contemporary of the auto-da-fé, a Luther of the repression of the Peasants’ Revolt. In every mystic outburst, the moans of victims parallel the moans of ecstasy. . . . Scaffolds, dungeons, jails flourish only in the shadow of a faith—of that need to believe which has infested the mind forever. The devil pales beside the man who owns a truth, his truth. We are unfair to a Nero, a Tiberius: it was not they who invented the concept heretic: they were only degenerate dreamers who happened to be entertained by massacres. The real criminals are men who establish an orthodoxy on the religious or political level, men who distinguish between the faithful and the schismatic.

>>17221804
>populism and the fringe right look bad?
It literally is bad, no need to make it look bad.

>>17221708
>BLM
>actual issues
Uhhhhh

>>17221867
Gigantic efforts to censor and smear it everywhere by corporate media/social media though, really makes you think

>>17221804
Populism is bourgeois

>>17221879
literally everything good in the world is bourgeois

>>17221877
Police brutality is an actual issue yeah

>>17221862
I would suspect the NSA would have gotten info on what was about to occur well beforehand.

>>17221867
I agree, but I think the goal was to make the center and right wing leaners turn away from so called trump like ideology that doesn't necessary make the neo liberal order run as smooth as they like.

>>17221828
He has the face of someone just there for the memes and has no real care about electoral politics

>>17221886
there were what 20 unarmed people shot in the entire year of 2019 in a country of 350million? No it's not an actual issue, if anything the police have just given up even trying on many ghettos

>>17221879
so is everything. At least this time it was actually directed at the system rather than petty protests through the streets. not going to say thats bad, that horse has been beat, but at least this event was much more in line with a marxist paradigm than the summer protests were, even if pretty much none of them would admit it.

>>17221886
proportionally no. You know lighting strikes are also an issue if you spend three time blocks a day focusing on it.

>>17221891
Not if it's a spontaneous uprising.

>>17221818
Communism itself has is accusations of populism

>>17221804
"Allowed to happen and subtly encouraged," more like. The only practical outcome of this was a big PR boost for Biden, it couldn't have worked out better for him. The inevitable protests are gotten out of the way before the inauguration, and his supporters are affirmed in their conviction that they're fighting against the system.

>>17221669
This is seriously how leftists are coping with the fact that they regurgitate the views of the establishment and that right wingers did in 1 day what "leftist radicals" couldn't do since the cultural revolution

>>17221878
Yeah, because the fringe right calls every black person a nigger, every gay a faggot, and unironically say we should lynch them on social media.

>>17221891
yeah maybe it's a bit of manufacturing of consent to paint Biden as a return to decent democracy. I don't know if it's effective though.

Wtf is appealing to the working class if not populism.

>>17221818
>If you are not a communist kill yourself.
based retarded teenager

Also, thinks jannies for the containment thread, you have been on the ball deleting the other ones, but I think its kind of wasted effort all things considered. This is at least a less micro managy strategy.

>>17221893
Many people on both sides are like that, in it for money, fame, a good time etc. while some who actually want change have only read the bible and the communist manifesto and pat themselves on the back for breaking a storefront of a big business or carrying a gun in public for an afternoon.

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>>17221899
>So long as man is protected by madness, he functions and flourishes; but when he frees himself from the fruitful tyranny of fixed ideas, he is lost, ruined. He begins to accept everything, to wrap not only minor abuses in his tolerance, but crimes and monstrosities, vices and aberrations: everything is worth the same to him. His indulgence, self-destroying as it is, extends to all the guilty, to the victims and the executioners; he takes all sides, because he espouses all opinions; gelatinous, contaminated by infinity, he has lost his “character,” lacking any point of reference, any obsession. The universal view melts things into a blur, and the man who still makes them out, being neither their friend nor their enemy, bears in himself a wax heart which indiscriminately takes the form of objects and beings. His pity is addressed to . . . existence, and his charity is that of doubt and not that of love; a skeptical charity, consequence of knowledge, which excuses all anomalies. But the man who takes sides, who lives in the folly of decision and choice, is never charitable; incapable of comprehending all points of view, confined in the horizon of his desires and his principles, he plunges into a hypnosis of the finite. This is because creatures flourish only by turning their backs on the universal . . . To be something—unconditional—-is always a form of madness from which life—flower of fixed idea—frees itself only to fade.

>>17221886
you have similar chance of dying in a plane crash as getting killed by a cop, probably less even, but do you encourage people's fear of flying or tell them it's irrational?

>>17221918
...realy? i hear that on 4chan given its nature, but not much else. though again, I dont go out schlepping deep into the dark crevices' of facebook for ammo.

>>17221909
>Not if it's a spontaneous uprising.
That is something I'm finding out is alot more rare then people think they are.

>>17221918
You don't have the first clue what the fringe right thinks because you can't read any of it for fear of absorbing thought crime

>>17221878
People who like a capitalist liberal democracy and have a vested interest in their nation not slipping into fascism think ‘populism’ is a threat? Yeah no shit. It is a threat, and it’s a very unsophisticated one that leads to tyranny. You want citizens to be virtuous and follow principles, not dictators.

>>17221899
>At least this time it was actually directed at the system
They threw a house party
>but at least this event was much more in line with a marxist paradigm than the summer protests were
You are fucking stupid. You deserve to be laughed at and get the shit beaten out of you. This was nothing but a circus. There are real struggles around the world where people get beaten to death and everything gets lit on fire but no one sees that shit. This was just a laughing stock by brain dead petit-bourgeois rightists that were protesting nothing. It's disgusting and shameful for anyone to think this was a real revolution with the shit that happens around the world. Fuck you.

>>17221914
>"Allowed to happen and subtly encouraged," more like.
Yeah you could phrase it that way too.

>>17221804
>no! a group of people who believe Donald Trump is fighting a secret war against a group of satanic pedophiles because and anonymous shitposter said so couldn't possibly do something so stupid! It must be false flag to make the right look bad!

>>17221942
>guy posting lenin books is worried about his nation slipping into dictatorship

the left is retarded

>>17221942
>People who like a capitalist liberal democracy and have a vested interest in their nation not slipping into fascism
Billionaires, central and investment bankers, and unelected bureaucrats

>>17221914
>The other team storms capital hill
>We're the ones fighting the system

>>17221536
>If you were to cast me in the lead role of a story; it would most certainly be... a tragedy

>>17221912
Communism isn't populism

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>>17221941
Bruh, it's simple just don't break the terms of service. I can't help it that the fringe right can't help themselves from making racistr posts that get them banned.
Nick Fuentes knows how to do it, he is even verified on Twitter. Just don't be a fucking retard.

>>17221950
Two more weeks

>>17221536
Did anyone else, honestly, wish for pure anarchy today? I was let down. It was nice to see the politicians scared though.

>>17221950
I could have made myself clearer, I not saying people like that dont exist, browsing this place and other sites has taught me that much, I and others just find it suspicious that they ever made it inside the state capitol building.

>Th-hhh-hthe right can't protest!
>Ok well theyre not protesting for the right reasons!

>>17221974
>terms of service are set up to exclude the far right
Very nice

>>17221915
They literally let them inside and let them do fuck all. No tear gas, no rubber bullets, no mass arrests, no national guards. If they wanted to do anything the military and police would have btfod them easily but they are no threat to the establishment so they didn't.

>>17221955
I’m not that guy
>>17221959
>let’s replace a corrupt plutocratic democracy with a even more corrupt plutocratic autocracy!

Ok retard.

>>17221988
I mean some woman did get shot

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>>17221988
Were they throwing molotovs at the cops like antifa? Did they burn down a government building?

>>17221988
a woman was literally shot and killed you retard

>>17221548
Could have taken and/or done a lot of stuff! It's actually kind of sad that these people didn't realize just how much power they had by doing what they did.

Have you guys seen biden? surely kamala will be sworn in unless they concoct some unheard of life serum.

>>17221992
Just water the tree and see what kind of fruit pops out coward

>>17221947
im not talking about their actual conduct idiot. I agree it was a circus, but I was referring to the target and motivation. Rather than protesting cops (not against doing so), they protested the system as a whole. even if they were fucking retarded and gimped, the direction was much more in lines.

At the end of the day nothing will change. Modern communication is too fast for a true revolution to bubble up.
On the so-called left we've seen the creation of a white savior industrial complex, where the same people prop up a police state that kills blacks, then they go protest and start charities when black people are brutalized by police, and at the end of the day they get awards and pats on the back from each other. The whole time, nothing has changed, and nobody involved is interested in making a change. They don't want any sort of justice, what they want is a very sophisticated emotional experience.
The people who "stormed the capital" today are the same. They don't really care about the future of the country or integrity of elections or anything like that, all they really wanted was something more exciting than following a tour guide around.

>>17221826
Napoleon and Caesar used populist outrage against the system for their own gain. They directed the anger against the elite to establish themselves in power. They gave no shits for the people. Trump tries to do some thing but he's not as intelligent or charismatic as either

>>17221548
no, because they are not gay little anarchists, they are disputing an election swung by cheating

>>17221992
less corrupt*

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>>17221997
This the only argument for why this couldn't have been staged.....aah maybe I need to stop with the conspiratorial thinking.

>>17221986
Have you ever held a job in a semi big company? The HR department will literally fire you if you are sexist, racist, or biggoted in general, it's literally corporate culture.
You think it's a good look to have a social media platform that allows racism, antisemitism, etc? no.

Also the far right are mouthbreathing retards that need to be locked up in the gulag and do manual labor.

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>>17221997
>One person
>for storming the capital with multiple high level civilian leaders.

ngl, thats pretty fucking minor beans. gotta agree with>>17221988. It is a pretty amazing thing though.

>>17222007
They didn't protest the system lmao they were protesting about their cult of personality figure you are such a retard.

>>17222003
they put him where ever the ccp is keeping jack ma

>>17222024
>Have you ever held a job in a semi big company? The HR department will literally fire you if you are sexist, racist, or biggoted in general, it's literally corporate culture.
Thank you for reinforcing my point that you guys are the establishment

>>17221973
It’s a sophisticated form of populism. The narodiniks were the precursor to Lenin and are regarded as some of the first populists in academic literature on populism. Many elements of Marxist Leninism follow the definition of populism too. They have a figure to rally behind(Marx/Lenin/Stalin), they believe in an elite that is corrupting society (the ruling class), and they both have a ‘heartland culture’ they perceive to be under threat (the working class).

Marxists might say that populism is itself a theoretical red herring creating by packets of the ruling class to discredit revolutionary movements as ‘slip ups’ in their ideal of the progressive road of liberal democracy. I think this has some merit, but the phrase populism itself has descriptive value that can be attributed to some organisations that want radical change

>>17222030
If you have a problem with the CCP you deserve to die.

>>17222030
>jack ma
wonder if he got too close with the west and they decided to off him.

>>17222024
>Also the far right are mouthbreathing retards that need to be locked up in the gulag and do manual labor.
they definitely have higher average IQs than eg. black americans in general though, less violent too

ITT: Leftists condemn conservatives for supporting an establishment figure as if their own BLM protests over the summer weren't simulations sold to them by elites and based on performative narratives. All of this shit is liberalism in a state of decline with different factions LARPing with their preferred aesthetics.

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>>17222028
>4 years later you still don't understand why people support Trump

>>17221915
>Ultra rich capitalist establishment agrees with the far left
Okay retard. The establishment is Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi, they take neo-liberal capitalism and sprinkle some diversity glitter on it

>>17222045
Trump supporters getting shot is literally a good thing

>>17222040
he started openly criticizing china's currency policy at some conference, he disappeared like a week later, the wsj had a story in on yesterday

>>17221843
read my comment asshat
>(not saying trump is either in terms of skill)
I was referring to the rather common event of a high born becoming a populous symbol as apposed to an established system. Not that he was any good at it. I could have named some no name french rev. Aristocrat turned revolutionary, or the british king gaining the support of the irish commoners in the English civil war.

>>17222009
I agree.

>>17222044
Nope, false equivalency. The protests over the summer were a response to the real problem of police brutality, what’s happening today is a response to a fake problem of the election being stolen. Completely different.

The Republic

>>17222065
the statistic don't actually support that

>>17222065
>Real Problem

Real is a stretch, overblown? Definitely. It was just quarantine fatigue eclipsing on itself

>>17222065
>my protests backed every powerful institution were totally real grassroots but yours that are universally condemned aren't real
>also the election can't be stolen, the US government are sacred and would never lie, stopping the count in the middle of the night, ejecting poll watchers, and turning up with incredibly anomalous batches of mail in votes is perfectly standard
based retard

>>17222034
>you guys are the establishment
This confirms my point about you being mouth breathing retards. All you care about is being edgy, and thus a corporation enforcing some rules to make sure coworkers are treated with common decency and respect is seen as oppressive to you loner edgy losers.
Second this is all what politics is to you guys, cultural issues. What about the fucking political issues and actual material issues like people not affording to pay rent, exploitation of the third world, billionaires paying zero taxes, etc.
Read more you illiterate /pol/ crossposter.

>>17222084
I mean don't most countries (like actual first world) ones not really do mail voting?

>>17222065
>my problems are real and valid but your problems are not

>>17222065
after russia hacked the 2016 election how can we be sure our sacred democratic process is secure tho?

>>17222086
There is nothing edgy about racism, it's just the obvious reality. And you don't even care about antiwhite racism so you're not even consistent.

>>17222065

/pol/ tourists fuck off

>>17221804
this is just the standard cope you politicals use every single time something doesn't go your way
>the black rioters are white people in bodysuits
>hitler was a jewish plant meant to subvert naziism
>the capitalist pig put those potatobugs in the fields to sabotage socialism
just admit that your side fucked up you delusional cunts. jesus fucking christ politics rots peoples brains.

>>17222049
Because his rhetoric appeals to frustration of millions of Americans towards the system while he actually uses their anger for his own gain and against his supporter's own interests? Also the irony of Trump supporters barging into a chamber filled with millionaires while holding an anti-socialist flag is too much.

>>17222104
do you think posting this accomplishes anything lmao

>>17222086
if there was ever really a rightwing uprising in america, the democrats can get together with some silicon valley moguls and pass a law protecting offensive jokes at work and the mob will be passified lmao that seems to be their only demand

>>17222065
>false equivalency
I'm sure buzzwords make you feel better. It helps to have terms smarter people than you made to better defend yourself. Here, have an ad hominem, retard.
Statistic show blacks commit more crimes. Pretty easy to see why more force needs to be used on them.

>>17222065
>police brutality
I feel like alot of it was being couped up because of the lock downs and general resentment of the system by black people that has tried to cull their numbers and make them without capital that was something the general non black population could connect with through a police man putting his knee on a black mans neck even though said black man was full of drugs and had a heart condition when he died.

>>17222094
No one claims they hacked the election the claim is that they helped back him which is true. The claim that Biden was given more votes or the votes for Blumpf went to Biden is conspiracy theory retardation.

>>17222108
That's not irony at all, you can dislike aspects of capitalism while recognizing that socialism is incredibly fucking retarded

>>17222111
Checked, you meant leftwing uprising though right?

>>17222113
>Why didn't you just stay in the car George?

>>17222111
How about freedom of association, abolition of affirmative action, etc.

>>17222109
it achieves about as much as the people storming the capitol lmao

>>17222106
If I haven't made this clear AGAIN, I am not affiliated with any political groups or ideologies.

>>17222101
What anti-white racism cracker? You've been consooming to many edgy liberal tweets my dude.
Racism is just toxic behavior from infantile sad individuals.

>>17222116
socialism is good though

>>17222121
the left doesn't want offensive jokes to be protected speech at work, they want a bunch of free stuff which is at least worth something

>>17222128
you still drank the coolaid
congratulations

trump supports shouldn't be so mad tho, if you look at biden's policies it's all rightwing shit, the left gets nothing lmao

>>17221827
Too liberal

>>17222133
No it's idiotic, well not for the Lenins and Stalins, pretty fucking sweet deal for them, but for everyone else it's trash

>>17222140
>you still drank the coolaid
Because I'm not on the right or left and only watching from afar as the elites heard their sheep?

>>17222116
It's ironic because so much people think Biden or the Democrats are these radical leftists while they take in millions from private donors. Also Trump makes himself seem as this big populist candidate while cutting taxes for the wealthy and getting in bed with the swamp. And then he uses the frustration of millions of normal Americans to fight against their own interests. Trump supporters would be socialist if they actually knew what it meant and wasn't taught to view the word as a pejorative

>>17222130
the US is currently not giving its vaccines to the elderly population, who are most at risk, because that population is too white

>>17222149
oh shit butt's shift at walmart just ended, get ready to get recommended some 2008 era anarchist pamphlets

>>17222124
>freedom of association
not real and used for racism
>abolition of affirmative action
the problems rightists have with this are also not real but it is a lazy band aid solution and instead of this wealth should be redistributed to impoverished communites

>>17222147
True, but they’re being told he’s a commie.

>>17221548
It's a bunch of MAGA boomers and rednecks, don't expect much. The real right-wingers are still a decade or two behind.

>>17222010
Crying like a bitch over "cheating" Is so pathetic and unbecoming. If they could get away with election fraud then you deserved to lose. Besides, Biden winning is good for the right. 90% of you are just too stupid to see it.

>>17222162
>not real and used for racism
I assure you it was quite real. Lifting it created Detroit, Baltimore, etc.

>>17222161
Are you defending Lenin’s 1908 pamphlets?

>>17221669
>>17221708
The absolute poverty of class thinking.

>>17222137
>'hey there nigga, I be mr Potatofentanyl'

>>17222147
Trump's base is anti neocon, pro populism.

>>17222168
I meant that "negative freedoms" are retarded. Especially that one. Don't care about the other bullshit you say.

>>17222169
well, the bolshevik assault on the winter palace was successful, for better or worse

>>17222158
A big powerful machine is at work making sure the american population with their taxes that support the biggest military on earth aren't thinking clearly or being fed any information that would cause the system to stutter to a stop.

>>17222180
>"negative freedoms" are retarded.
They're the only real freedoms, positive freedoms are forcing other people to do stuff. go live in Detroit, that's the fruit of the Civil RIghts Movement

>>17222147
>it's all rightwing shit
neoliberal

>>17222166
>Biden winning is good for the right.
idk if it's good for the right, but it's bad for the left, andy ngo had a real rogue's gallery of antifa arsonists that got busted yesterday, looks like the cops are actually trying to crack down finally

>>17222177
Bullshit chart.

>>17222181
Successful as an assault, but the revolution fell flat.

>>17222197
>Bullshit chart.
explain then

>>17222159
>because that population is too white
doubt
How about they don't offer as much value to the labor market and thus covid 19 is used as an instrument of eugenics by the rulling class to wipe out the less productive proles?

Highly recommend watching this if you have the time:
https://youtu.be/cJQphVk0FMk

God I want biden presidency so bad, cant wait till all the true belivers fight in the streets

>>17222147
he won't reign in big tech and protect freedom of speech and informational neutrality in digital spaces, and with the way things are going now we'll just get a ministry of truth and a neatly controlled information bottleneck so that once again no "unacceptable", "dangerous", "problematic" (according to the ruling powers) views can easily enter the mainstream. America really needed to set a precedent for other countries with how those issues might be handled.

>>17222194
>andy ngo
oh you poor poor soul

>>17222197
>the 1917 revolution fell flat
that would be news to the millions of ppl butchered by stalin but ok

>>17221927
I don't really understand this...

>>17222200
That corner lit up blue is for people against the DNC and the whole government
I suppose it’s not that four corners one, but it looks like it.

>>17222203
I don't give a shit if they censor twitter, facebook, etc. I just don't want them to shut down the chans. Hopefully we are too irrelevant to bother with, though I guess they might close /pol/. I don't care about /pol/ though despite having '/pol/' views

>>17222224
>/pol/' views
Like what?

>>17222207
>Millions
Most deaths you can attribute to Joseph Stalin is 300,000 executions mostly traitors, criminals, and zionists.

“The evidence suggests that the Ezhovshchina - which is what most people really mean by the “Great Purges” - should be redefined. It was not the result of a petrified bureaucracy’s stamping out dissent and annihilating old radical revolutionaries. In fact, it may have been just the opposite. It is not inconsistent with the evidence to argue that the Ezhovshchina was rather a radical, even hysterical, reaction to bureaucracy. The entrenched officeholder were destroyed from above and below in a chaotic wave of volunteerism and revolutionary puritanism.” - J. Arch Getty, Origins of the Great Purges p.206

There’s a chart at the end of the book “ The Road to Terror: Stalin and the Self-Destruction of the Bolsheviks, 1932-1939” in case you care about a number figure

>>17222214
It's a social/economic axis, not your typical political compass

>>17222197
really? its from my experience, but I see a lot of blue collared fishing hicks flying his flag while all the summer hoses seem to have biden fliers. Not saying they are smart at all, but the populist angle does fit.

>>17222224
dude, i would love it if they shut down 4chan. imagine coming here to waste away another day posting dumb shit in the same five threads only to see one of those "this domain seized by the fbi/atf/doj" knowing you are now free from the dopamine drip of arguing with toxic chuds

>>17221576
based
>>17221842
>bro just allow your own extinction event
ted wasn't a primitivist, in fact he openly denounced primitivists in technological slavery

>>17222224
the web is in the state it's in right now because of the legal situation. you really think we'll be able to continue in peace as the rest of the world goes to shit? have you been paying attention the last six years?

>>17222231
trans lives matter.

>>17222207
>coup happens
>socialists slaughtered
>bourgeois dictator implements industrialization
>next dictator
Where’s the communism again?
Do you also think the US is a democracy?

>>17222252
that sounds like real socialism to me

>>17222197
Revolutions are always messy. Go look at the actual details of whatever sparked them off, it's always some particularly unstable person rushing the barricades while everybody else holds their dicks waiting for the "real revolution to happen" and afraid to make a move. Whenever something finally happens it's always a mundane sequence of events that falls short of a great romantic narrative.

The metapolitical impact of this thing was immense. This guarantees Trump will have outsider status even within the Republican party. He could now crash the entire party out of spite. He could lead an exodus and make an earnest attempt at promoting (probably not founding, but at least bringing attention to) a new populist movement free of neocon bullshit. That isn't to say anything will come of that either, or that it won't fizzle out in disappointing, mundane, decidedly unromantic compromises and missed opportunities, but once again what matters is shifting the window in that direction.

For all we know, the actual course of history as it will be written in the history books a thousand years from now is: a movement was created ca 2016, the details and vicissitudes don't really matter; populism was allowed to foment within the older parties for long enough that it became self-sustaining; after some more irrelevant vicissitudes, with occasional steps forward and occasional steps back, a populist vanguard party was created that finally split from the old neocon ways; this party became the basis for the real important events of the 20th century, such as resisting anarcho-tyranny and globalist technocracy.

Maybe the events of today won't bear their final fruit, as historians would understand it, for another generation. But they've at least avoided being completely "status quo." They've delegitimised the American political machinery just a little more. Nobody gives a fuck about these stupid cocksucker millionaires and their meaningless bills anymore, fuck this charade, the more obvious it is that it's a charade the more brittle it will be when actual crises start to pound it from the outside while its people hate it from the inside.

The alternative of a stagnant "Washington consensus" was the only truly losing move, it was a very possible one, and we avoided it.

>>17222235
I see now. I take it back.

>>17222237
I get ya now.

>>17222255
Real socialism is all power to the people

>>17222252
>Where’s the communism again?
so many communists thought the same thing right before the nkvd put a bullet through their skull

>>17222206
Kill yourself faggot tranny.

>>17222257
If an intended revolution fails its just a coup.

>>17222259
falls apart the moment you ask embarrassing questions like "who's "the people" and what does giving power to "them" mean?". just stop larping as a revolutionary and try being intellectually honest first

>>17222257
There's also the distinct possibility that people are taking notes over today, and over the last four years. Smart people, cunning people, ambitious people, looking at everything that has transpired since 2015 and seeing, in it, a blueprint for their own success.

>>17222249
>trans lives matter
It weird how this became such a topic of discussion, as a kid I could have never dreamed about what a trans is and now I'm confronted with having political opinions on a topic I finding revolting but also a little sexually attractive when said tranny isn't a ghoul but a supple teenager with natural breast from taking hormones and blocker at the onset of male puberty.

>>17222265
or an atempted coup, though coup usually implies a military take over, like im pretty sure the parlementarians in the ESW are still considered a coup. though tbf, its all semantics unless we are being in depth historians or some shit.

>>17222265
>*stamps foot*
>if I don't win that means the score for that game doesn't count

>>17222271
Yep, that the internet age for you pall. it kinda makes you confused or an absolute polemic.

>>17222271
Have you actually had sex with a male or do you just watch porn?

Damn, I really don't have any political philosophy so I don't know what to think about all of this.

>>17222177
>Trump's base is anti neocon
If that were even remotely the case these idiots wouldn't be blindsided by Pence turning on Trump.

Half the fucking people who voted for Trump are still firmly in the GOP's pocket. This is why we need fresh blood. Boomers need to fuck off.

>>17222271
All trannies are ghouls. There are a handful of young twinks who take the hormone blocker shit early on, and in instagram angled and edited pictures they trick you into thinking they pass, but they look like shit and have masculine energy and will never feel like a real women if you're near them physically. The rest are all literal men in dresses.

>>17222281
It does calm me that these aren't new topics, just ones opened up again by technology and cultural decline.

>>17222268
>who's "the people"
Everyone
>and what does giving power to "them"
Abolishing hierarchy. Institute a system of confederated free associations based on direct democracy and delegation. Basic Anarchist principles

>>17222297
idk, I aat least find their intentions somewhat pure and down to earth (though stupid). As it goes I find it more apealing than the slimyness of a lot of democrates, but its the kind of appreciate one has for an obviously simple farmer. Not because he is smart, but because he is simple.

>>17222302
would not used the term decline for reasons of trying to be more object oriented, but I sympathize with the intention. Hard not to at least feel that way.

>>17222294
Most of the ones who spout political philosophy rarely understand it themselves.

>>17222290
>Have you actually had sex with a male or do you just watch porn?
I would never think of having sex with a man no and I dont even watch tranny porn as most ones doing it have a man voice that gives me the heebie-jeebies, but like I said before I do have sexual thoughts of the perfect tranny, young and essentially a girl with a penis.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQX52IKhang
aww shit congress back sess

>>17222308
This, for example Q boomers at least have hearts in the right place. Old article by Francis on it:
https://counter-currents.com/2018/05/conspiracy/

The American middle class, what's left of it anyway, is one of the last good stocks of old fashioned ordinary people on earth. Everyone in Europe and the Commonwealth is a terminally gay urbanite honorary San Franciscan now. Somehow globalism even got to a lot of rinky dink little Eastern Euro countries, because in those countries the only down to earth people are incredibly poor and destroyed from alcohol/drugs, while everybody else lives in cities and tries to pretend they are western. There is no middle of decent people who aren't crushed. Flyover America somehow still has that.

>>17222301
I know I know, this tranny only lives in my head and can some times crop up in the real world only for disappointment to be realized, almost fairy or demigod like is my image of this sexual idea.

>>17222268
>falls apart
It doesn’t really. Direct democracy

>>17222273
Lenin and his coup were successful

>>17222279
If there’s no complete turn over, into a completely different paradigm, than you’re just switching heads of the same old state.

>>17222331
I have talked to intelligent anarchists before and while they are frustrating, they at least try to think through their ideals. What's annoying about your anarchism is you got it from skimming 2, maybe 3 books, or the wikipedia overviews of them, and you talk and act as if the worldview is self-evident. I've never seen you make a reply longer than a sentence or two. You only want to post "It isn't. Direct democracy."

You're posting from your fucking phone, aren't you you old bag? Can't you at least get a computer and write at length about your ideas and values? Fucking horrible tripfag.

>>17221999
The limiting factor of the maga movement is that the average follower is an absolute idiot and are pawns in a game they cannot comprehend. This is not a disciplined fascist machine able to overthrow a government, it's a rowdy and aggressive mongrelized coalition of various interests who are united solely by the common rallying point of Trump.
Trump committed political suicide today, and once he is removed his movement--having no real ideology besides anger and vague resentments--will evaporate.
The whole MAGA thing is a very curious postmodern political phenomenon.

>>17222324
Thanks for kind of understanding. Its a kind of authenticity thats hard to get. I can disagree with someone's conclusions while respecting how they got to the. like you can kinda respect the mongols and their way of shit even if they burned down bagdad or whatever.

I can also someone get it from common blue collar blacks too, but due to cultural differences its a bit harder.

>>17222344
You're overthinking it, MAGA is white conservative identity politics, which appeals to a small minority of Latinos too.

>>17221709
Back the Blue

>>17222344
You are wrong, Trump is caesarism waiting and trying to happen. There is some risk that it will die with Trump if it becomes too closely associated with him or he is disgraced strategically in a way that causes his followers to disperse too much to come back together, but if another, better Trump were to come along and harness the same energy he tapped into, it would be good.

Of course it's not fascism. It never tried to be. All you need is economic populism. Anyone who manages to become the face of populism can take up the Trump mantle. The problem right now is that there are no obvious successors but that doesn't mean there can't be.

>>17222331
>Direct democracy
I can't believe these LARPers. The complete turnover into the "new paradigm" you're on about doesn't happen because that paradigm is pure nonsense, a fata morgana, a quasi-religious image of utopia transplanted into a secular context.
>no you see, the historical reality is just a contingency, no matter what the empirical evidence might be, we're still 100% sure it will work next time

>>17222324
The way some of my liberal friends talk about "hicks" if you replaced the way they used hick with "nigger" would be obviously hateful shit. Its fascibating to see. The people that love saying the one side has a billion scapegoat sure do have a very large one themselves

>>17222340
>I've never seen you make a reply longer than a sentence or two
Ah, there’s your problem. You’ve been here a week or two.
I deny the charges. As me a question if you care. Otherwise you can shaddup

(Posting from my pad)

>>17221669
Boomers > antifa soiboys + BLM niggers

the funniest spectacle from today was that anchor from rsbn literally crying about getting tear gas while black dudes from african news agencies took photos of him

>>17222208
>I don't really understand this...
A universal understanding of Cioran would depopulate the earth in a day.

>>17222384
link that sounds funny

>>17222374
>thing that not happen can’t ever happen
>and other straw
Flush that

>>17221828
Hopefully

>>17222381
>weebs>Stacies>jocks>goths
W/e

>>17221966
Pepe is so handsome

>>17222389
>https://youtu.be/vTXOkcwYxvE?t=3424

>>17222054
You’ll never be a woman

>>17222381
I mean... agreed, but thats comparing a 4/10 to a 2/10, so its not much of a comparison.

>>17221536
Biden Won- Flannery O'Cannery

>>17222374
Flower-chan is too stupid to understand that real democracy doesn't exist truly and is replaced by Oligarchy in short order whenever attempted.

People want to be ruled. Whether they admit it or not, the vast majority don't like decision-making power. That's why we have this representational democracy compromise but even isn't much of a compromise, because what people really need is absolute monarchy, motherfucker.

This 4 year rent-a-car shit isn't working. Nobody treats rental cards well because they don't own them. Countries deserve to be treated like the prized family heirlooms they've always wanted to be.

>>17222417
Be better than a comment I see sad people I know make, If you want transsexuals to be marginalized join a group of people looking to accomplish that aim, not post five words or an ugly image only for short felt gratification from a reply or knowing you could be hurting someone with actual mental issues.

>>17222442
if someone believes they are napoleon is it helpful or hurtful to remind them that they are in fact not napoleon?

>>17222380
Can't teach an old bag new tricks I suppose. I guess if you don't mind never having a real conversation. You don't seem to notice or care that people just find your non-positions baffling, so maybe you're happier this way. Just annoying to others.

>>17222365
I’m thinking Vulpes or legate lanius

>>17222449
Why not be both? the sudlte art of sudtle rhetoric needs to be used more. give them a napoleonic hypothetical but set it as something lesser than napoleon would actually do (you may replace napelon with anyone)

>>17222442
I can tell you're fucked in the head because just reading one of your "sentences" fucked up my own brain