/lit/ - Literature

Adverbs

I was thinking of writing a serial novel or web novel on Royal Road, and I have to ask you guys in /wg/: how do I turn my character from a depressed adolescent who is lost in the world and doesn't know what to do, into a chad antihero? What should I do to not make him or his journey there edgy? I'm writing a capepunk story if it helps.

>>17505209
Your waifu is undeniably shit, RETARD

Local animefag ruins everything again

>>17505283
No one can help you with this. Just write.

Thoughts? First paragraph is from my first draft. Second is from the second draft I'm working on.

>>17505336
"savage like silhouettes" is awkward phrasing. No need for the "amazingly". no need for "nearby".
"taller than six feet but no taller than seven" is a bit comedic to me and does not fit the tone. I'm confused with the "real" before the long arms. don't get the repititon of the one eye. i also felt there was an overuse of commas, but maybe that is a stylistic preference

overall though, i like the content. you do a good job with the pacing and details, and i can feel the foggy, haunting set up you're going for. just needs to be trimmed here and there, i felt

>>17505336
>real long arms
The "real long" doesn't really doesn't fit with the tone of the rest of the narration.

>>17505283
only one bad thing can happen to him and the rest must happen to others

>>17505336
I mean, in terms of just writing sharpness/tightness it's a long way off. I don't like giving nitpicking commentary because it's not really useful, but looking at just the second paragraph I'd ditch the comma after parking lot, rephrase savage like, rephrase Amazingly, the two sentences starting with Judging are clunky and slow, the comma after bodily form became clearer should be a dash or a colon, and I'd add It was to Oval in shape to make it an independent sentence.

I think the scene and mood is promising. I think you're lacking the presence of the main character a little, they're not mentioned at all and we don't get any sense of their thoughts, of it being specifically them watching these creatures approaching or how they're feeling about it.

So we just lost the war on this anime girl thing? Anyway what's the trick to web serials? Should I just write a novel the way I would normally and post the individual chapters or is there a specific format I have to follow.

The intercom rang and he pressed the button to unlock the door on the street and he opened the front door to his fourth floor apartment. There was no elevator and the stairwell was very old and dusty, and 90 seconds later, Yana was trudging up the stairs in a rather unfashionable black dress with a print of a galaxy on it. She smiled as she came up the final steps, and said hello as she walked in the door. Jake said nothing, only hugged her, his arms wrapped around her thin waist, just above her feminine hips and rear. He felt the soft skin of her thin arms brush against his. Her shampoo (or maybe it was perfume) smelled like heaven. She bent down limberly and slid her foot first out of one show, then the other. She set her purse down on the coat rack. Come into the living room, he asked her.

She followe, then walked past him into the large living room, as he stopped, turned around, and locked the door behind him. He slid the key into the pocket of his trousers, specially chosen for the occasion, as they fit tightly against his thighs, and it would be almost impossible for anyone to filch the keys from his pocket, even with his consent. Now the three of them would be able to have a conversation and reach a resolution, without anyone stomping out prematurely due to some momentary misfiring of emotion.

The room was long, two couches sat facing each other. Sveta had been sitting on one of them, reading something on her phone, but hearing voices, she stood, and she now sat on the armrest, facing Jake and Yana. Yana saw Sveta just as she heard the echo of the tall door shutting, and by the time she understood something was not right, the key had already been turned. She stood in the middle of the room, her hand bracing her resting on a table next to her, one arm reaching across her body, crossed tightly against her chest, her hand clasping the upper part of her opposite arm.

Jake was nervous. They were all nervous. Jake was the only one who understood why there were all here, but even he had no idea what would come next. There was no script for this situation. Sveta didn’t understand who was this very pale, thin girl with shoulder length black hair. And Yana did not know who was this blonde girl, wearing a little white dress with red flowers, with large blue eyes, larger breasts, and a concave nose.

“Yana, Sveta, please meet each other. Yana: Sveta is a medical doctor. She is a gastroenterologist. She’s a funny and a fun girl. She can be a little bit sharp, don’t worry if you think she is a little rude. She is a good girl. You will see, when you know her better. You will understand.” Now he turned his gaze to Sveta. “Sveta, this is Yana. Yana is a very good girl. She is very sweet. She works at the bank. I think you will like her.” Sveta glared at the two of them, her large eyes even larger than usual. Her face was equal parts fear and anger. He knew that she was the one that would be harder to manage. Yana would just sulk, but you could work with that. You would have time with Yana. But Sveta you had to manage.

“Listen, Sveta, Yana,” (to refer to them as “girls” would have been duhmanising, given that he’d been dating each of them for three weeks now, and each had been spending two or three nights at his place, thus he took the tedious step of referring to each of them by their names, when addressing them together), “I’d like to have a discussion with both of you. I need to tell you both something. Now he moved closer towards the couches. “Can you two please sit down?” and he looked first at Sveta, motioning with his head, for her to scoot over, and reached his arm in Yana’s direction, pulling her towards the couch with an imaginary net.

Yana started to walk slowly towards them, but Sveta did not move. Her eyes were intense, her cheeks flushed. “Jake.” Her voice hit like a fist pounding on a table. “What are we doing here? Why did you and what is and something something home something something bullshit.” She was angry and she spoke quickly and used words he did not understand. His Russian was not very good, and neither girl spoke English.

“What?” he asked, then interrupting her, knowing he would not understand her anyway, and doing his best to manage the situation, he continued, “Be calm. Just sit. Listen to me please. I’ll explain everything.” She still looked at him with those intense eyes, but now her head bent down slightly. He knew he had her for at least a couple more minutes. But he had to be careful. Yana had paused, but she now continued to the couch, flattened her dress behind her thighs, and sat down.

“Sveta, Yana,” he looked at each as he said their names, “I’ve been meeting with each of you the past three weeks. It has been very good with you. With both of you.” He was not eloquent in Russian and he knew this and he regretted that he could not craft his words more carefully in this important moment when every word was very delicate. But he had no choice. He continued. “In reality, I met each of you on, I don’t know how to say. Sveta, I met you. And then the next day, I met Yana. In two days. Consecutive.” The girls looked sidelong at each other. Sveta shuffled to the edge of the couch, clasping her hands around one knee. He was starting to lose her. “From the beginning, I really liked both of you. I really like both of you. You’re both beautiful, and good girls. And I like spending time with both of you. I understand that I have not been absolutely open with you. I imagine you are a little surprised right now. Please forgive--”

At that, Sveta stood up, and marched to leave, then remembered the tall doors to the front hall were locked. “Give me the key,” her harsh voice boomed through the large room, echoing off the tall ceiling. Jake called her back to the couch, but when she did not come, he stood and went to her. He tried to hug her but she slapped his arm away, then her other hand slapped his shoulder and now Yana stood up and she looked impatient and all this happened in an instant and then he grabbed Sveta by the shoulders and looked in her eyes, imploring her, please, to just sit for a two more minutes. “I promise, it is worth it,” he told her. She did not understand what he meant, but she felt compelled to sit down by the look on his face. The three of them once again sat on the couch.

“Yana and Sveta, I care about both of you very much. I have been looking for such a girl for a long time. And now, somehow, I have found two. At one time. At first I wanted to choose. I tried. But it was impossible. How could I choose just one of you? I adore you both. And I cannot lie anymore. I needed, that you knew the situation. I would like to try, for us to be together. In a relationship. Us three.”

For the first time, Yana spoke. Her voice was soft, “Jake, are you serious? Why would you do this?” her eyes were very sad. Jake understood he had hurt her. He had been dreading this moment.

“Yana, there was no other possibility. It just happened, by coincidence. But believe me – I really like you. I want to be with you. I think, we can do it. We can make it possible. We can live here, together. Three of us. There is something, which I have not yet told either of you. My work is very good. We can have a very good life. You two will not need to worry about anything anymore.”

“Jake, I’m sorry, but no. No.” She shook her quickly, very upset. “You don’t understand me at all. This is” and she spoke quickly now, not filtering her speech for words he wouldn’t understand, and he caught only he word “filth,” and although Sveta was angry and jealous, she herself couldn’t help but feel pity for Yana, who was so clearly innocent, and she stood up, telling Yana, “Let’s go.” She took Yana’s little porcelain hand, and at the same time, turned to Jake. “You’re an asshole,” and then more words he didn’t understand, though he thought one of them sounded like one of the many Russian forms of “fuck,”which he still did not understand how to properly use in a sentence.

He sighed. Bowed his head, his hand supported his forehead. He closed his eyes and breathed slowly. He saw no way out. He stood. The girls walked towards the door. He fished the key out of his pocket, and unlocked the door. Surrender. The girls hurriedly put on their shoes. “Bring me my bag, it’s in the kitchen,” Sveta commanded. When he returned, handing Sveta her bag, Yana was standing in the doorway to the stairwell. She looked back at him, over her shoulder. “Don’t contact me, please.” And with that she disappeared. Only Sveta remained. She stood, holding her bag, looking up at him. A tear appeared under one eye. He tried to hug her. She started to cry harder, into his shoulder, her arms limply against her side. He felt the warm wetness of her tears against his body. He tried to hold her tight, but she wriggled out. “I’m going home,” she managed to blurt out, between gasps of crying. She paused in the doorway, gave him a pathetic, heartbroken look, which hit him like an arrow in the heart, and she turned and left. He heard the echo of her boots on the stairwell, quieter and quieter as she descended. He stood in the flat alone now, staring through the open door, staring a million miles away.

He didn’t have a girlfriend anymore.

>>17505423
>>17505424
>>17505428
>>17505430
Jesus Christ delete this and post this in either pastebin or take a screenshot in from whatever you type with.

>>17505361
>i also felt there was an overuse of commas,
Yeah, I'm just writing without really thinking about grammar in this stage of the process. I'm really bad with grammar so I'm going to have to go back and learn the basics.

>>17505368
Thanks, yeah it does sound weird now that you mention it.

>>17505388
>in terms of just writing sharpness/tightness it's a long way off.
>I think the scene and mood is promising. I think you're lacking the presence of the main character a little
Thanks, yeah I'm bad with grammar, I'll have to go back and look at everything to make it not look retarded, it's been a long time since I've written, never really was good at it. I'm focusing on the story at the moment. I'm going to focus on grammar towards the end.


Thanks for the feedback anons, really helped.

>>17505430
>He didn’t have a girlfriend anymore.

tl;dr but BASED.

https://pastebin.com/XEiX1qa4

>>17505283
>See worm
>learn and profit

No, seriously. I think worm (parahumans) has done what your requesting well enough. So read and learn. Just don't copy the teenager is bullied trope if you ask me.

I think you need to find a balance between circumstance, character's state of mind, and their motivation.

Anti-heroes, first and foremost need to be humanised. Justification comes afterwards.

I'm also writing a capepunk story, hoping to release in about a year. Good luck. I'm spending a hour a day on world/plot/character building.

>hey /wg/ i wrote 2000 words today
>just hit 10k mark on my novel
>working on my sixth book now
i feel so intimidated by all of you /wg/ and it is terrible

>>17505554
Pay attention to all the anons whining that they do nothing instead

>>17505560
where?

>>17505554
2k is not hard to do, three hours without distraction should be enough to hit that. 2 hours maybe, if you have an idea. I agree with you with the word count though, some anon posted he hit 225k on his book, but words add up over days.

Keep going. It's about quality anon.

>>17505579
>It's about quality anon.
this makes me really slow. i scrutinize every word before the sentence was even written.
i'm gonna try writing like an ape and worry about editing later.

How do you guys feel about second person?
>>17505579
Two thousand sounds much easier on paper than it is in reality.

>>17505209
This artist sucks so bad, they need to learn anatomy. Look at the length of that forearm

>>17505685
Look at how tiny the arm is.
It's actually starving african child tier.

>>17505209
Once I become a famous author then I'll finally get a girlfriend!

>>17505648
>Two thousand sounds much easier on paper than it is in reality.
it takes me an hour for a bit over 200 words

>>17505209
When is it acceptable to use them in writing? The general consciousness seems to be that comma splices are grammatically incorrect, however, I've noticed that numerous writers both in fiction and on forums such as reddit, twitter and even here utilize the comma splice in their writings. Even famous author, Cormac Mccarthy utilized the comma splice in the opening paragraph of his book, "BLOOD MERIDIAN: OR THE EVENING REDNESS IN THE WEST". He said and I quote, " See the child. He is pale and thin, he wears a thin and ragged linen shirt". Notice, how in this paragraph he utilizes a comma splice to express his ideas. This cannot be a mistake because this is in a published work that is widely studied to this day in academia. So very clearly, the comma splice is acceptable in some cases. The question to be asked then, is WHEN is it acceptable to use a comma splice over a semicolon, a coordinating conjunction, or a period?

Before you ask, yes, I did make a thread about this very topic two days ago. But I did not get any satisfactory answers, which is why I'm asking here

>>17505283
1. This literally already exists and is one of the most popular webnovels ever written so I'm not quite sure if stealing it is the way you want to go.
2. Think about why your hero is lost in the world. You say family problems, abandonment issues, etc. Look further than that and ask what specific situation could they be in that they think would make them happy. Not just something like "having a loving family," but a specific moment you can really visualize. Now think, based on what you know about your hero, whether or not that would really satisfy them. What I bet you'll wind up having to do is give that moment to them and have them come to realize that they themselves are the thing in the scene that doesn't fit in. Then, they can have an introspective journey from there where they realize or come to accept their place in the world. Mind though that, once again, this is in abstract almost exactly what Worm does. If you're going to to it, just be sure your hero isn't that story's MC with a penis.

Is there any good book on how to promote your web fiction/self-published novels?

>>17506874
Not really. Marketing science changes every year. That's why people have jobs that are just figuring that out and doing nothing else. You could probably find some handholding tutorials on how to buy adspace and shit like that, though.

>>17506874
Buy a Self-serve Ad on 4chan

>>17506443
>using McCarthy as a model of punctuation usage

Please don't

How can I tell when I'm over-describing something?

>>17505412
Just write until you feel you're ready. Ideally, make a backlog like this anon is doing >>17499463 >>17499648 and maybe publish one a day until you hit trending or a place you feel comfortable with and then slow down to 1/2/3 times a week or whatever posting schedule you think you can manage.

You can totally just start pants-writing without a backlog, but I wouldn't recommend it since that means you'll constantly have to be writing the next chapter once you're done with the last one.

>>17505209
BRAIN SCIENCE!

>>17507191
If dumb anime poster will stop making new threads too early, I'll make one with author names and the dumbass subtitle cut out.

>>17507085
when you get to microscopic detail.
>describing a castle
good
>describing the castle has a roof and vines
good
>describing the individual tiles of the roof and the individual leaves on the vines
too much
>describing the caterpillar on one of the leaves
what are you doing
>describing the pollen on the caterpillar's antennas
stop it
>counting the pollen
this is ridiculous now
>and oh is that a reflection on the caterpillar's eyeball?

>>17507324
what if the caterpillar is the antagonist?

>>17507351
well then it's okay because she's important.

>>17505412
I gather most people only hated him for spamming threads before the old thread hit bump limit.

>>17505648
>How do you guys feel about second person?
Can be truly great if done well (e.g. Crimson Petal and the White). Will be absolutely awful if done less than well.

>>17507369
>she
Well thanks. Now I have a new waifu.

Reminder, you're not a true writer unless a copypasta that you made went viral (at least on 4chan).

>>17507506
speaking from experience?

>>17507506
yes i wrote the spider button copypasta
it didn't last long but it got reposted and that's enough for me

https://pastebin.com/RNri5Xxv

ESL here.
how's my writing now? I've been studying, reading and cooming for 2 weeks

>>17507685
Not bad

>>17507685
It reads fine, but it's full of tropes and predictable turns of phrase. As if it could be more clear and eloquent with a decent editor, but you may lose your voice in the process. I'm not sure. Things like "decades and decades" or that the sentence ends in furiously instead of after the man's name. It's not awkward, it's just not... eloquent?

>half of my story got deleted from my computer shutting down twice this week.

fuck my life

>>17507685
There are no obvious "mistakes" as far as I see, but I'd just like to point out that your horrid abuse of the semicolon is entirely unnecessary.

>>17507515
I wrote the original version of this.
https://arch.b4k.co/_/search/text/overfertilized%20and%20worshipped/

>>17507961
If it exists you can use it.

>>17508027
I said the same thing when my mom caught me with my sister

How do I know where my story should begin?

>>17508064
Begin at the beginning

>>17508064
When the compounding drama begins. There are probably events before the plot that will play into it, but the plot should start at the point at which everything begins coming together.

>>17508080
I don't know where that is though.
I'm not sure of how much of the MCs story could be backstory that is slowly revealed, rather than having it be the start and motivation for his adventure.

>>17508031

>>17506443
>consciousness
consensus
>The question to be asked then, is WHEN is it acceptable to use a comma splice over a semicolon
the question to be asked then is, WHEN...

its okay to misuse punctuation in art. what matters is the effect. a comma creates a pause. not a fully resolute pause like a full stop, but a pause that interrupts the flow of the sentence, such as the interruptions in this sentence.

>>17508064
well usually you want to start with the main character waking up and then you should have them go about their daily tasks like take advantage of this too because you can have him look in a mirror after brushing his teeth and this will be your oppurtunity to describe his appearance

https://pastebin.com/HFb3Crij
new piece, halfway done

>>17505457

This was pretty good anon, not sure why it got no comments. I liked reading it

Ending was a little flat but I find that’s true of a lot of short stories, and maybe intentional?

>>17508064
Many novice writers think that to start a story means to begin at zero, in other words build up from nothing, lay out all the pieces first, and then start making things happen with them. But that's boring. Start with a climax, don't just end with one or what have you.

It's the whole "in media res" idea. Get right into the action, don't start of slow and gradually pick up speed because that's boring and capturing your reader's attention on the first few pages is the best predictor that they will read the whole thing.

>>17508416
>"in media res"

In medias res.

>>17508416
So for example, I have;

>Wife gets murdered
>Husband tried to avenge her but gets horribly maimed
>rehabilitation and/or training
>Husband sets off on adventure

Where would I start?
At the start of the adventure, with everything else being alluded to and flashbacked?
Or perhaps starting just before the Husband is maimed?

I can make a case for all, but I'm not sure which would make the most sense.

>>17508549
only one of your bullet points sounds like the beginning of a story

>>17508549
I would start at 3

>>17507166
Approved. Took about 24 hrs. Didn't have to change the title, thankfully. I'm going to be posting a chapter a day for the next eight days, then moving to a weekly release.
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/40361/erased

>>17508773
The description tells me nothing what it's actually about. I don't even know if it's supposed to be fantasy or realistic fiction. People are just going to skim over it and scroll down to the next story.

>>17508837
Yeah I know. I don't want to spoil the surprise before releasing the chapter that gets to it. Its a conundrum. I need to revise, but maybe not until I drop chapter 9. Which may not be the worst thing considering people may actually want to read all nine chapters then.

>>17508549
Try out each one and see what feels best. It's called drafting. It's not like you are committed to a single decision you can never take back

>>17508773

>>17509036
said is an invisible word. I have it there specifically because the mc has no dialogue tags whatsoever, and therefore everyone else needs them

I got my first short story published in a lit magazine recently. I was shocked at how easy and quick the process was. Everyone should do it, it's a huge ego boost.

>>17509036
Shut the FUCK up, you fucking absolute beginner. Go have your characters "ejaculate" some dialogue or some bullshit.

>>17509061
It wasn't invisible to me. I screenshotted that specifically because I was reading it and thought, "Wow, this sounds really fucking weird, what's wrong with it?" Putting said in one short chapter 33 times is not invisible.

>>17509147
I usually use said, if I have to use anything. I just write my scenes such that I don't need to use it that often because it sounds like shit.

>>17508885
Just simple who, where, what, and why will do. If stating the very starting premise of your story is a spoiler, then the whole thing may be fundamentally broken. I won't read any fiction if the synopsis makes no sense. Because it doesn't exactly build confidence in your ability to carry a larger narrative.

>>17509153
so long as you understand my reasoning for doing so. every single time someone else has a line of dialogue other than the mc there is a variation of the word said. said being used around 99% of the time. don't worry, the mc has quite a bit of dialogue. either the reader will get used to it real quick or they won't. that's how the book is written. I also don't use the word "I" unless its written in dialogue either. stylistic choice.

>>17509272
you are correct the other guy is wrong

I'm averaging a 1000 words a day with my novel, which should be around 90,000 words when finished, is that an okay pace? I'm do a thorough pass every night when I'm done, making corrections, fleshing it out to support future plotlines, I'm making sure it's decent enough to be read right now. Would you guys say it's an okay pace?

>>17509312
I know, but I understand where he's coming from. Usually when two characters are speaking its very easy to drop dialogue tags altogether and let them bounce back and forth. However, due to the way I've constructed the way the mc talks, that's impossible. I thought removing the phrase "I said" was more important than allowing me to do the above. I stand by my choice, no regrets whatsoever.

>>17509358
in fact i think you are so correct that you have earned to right to be smug and arrogant about your correctness

Decided to finally stop throwing ideas around in my head and actually write something down. This is the first creative writing I've done since leaving school 15 years ago.
No real idea for an actual narrative beyond a basic premise and set of characters so I'm just going to write some of the scenes I've been thinking about as a start even if they're not connected yet.
pic related would potentially be a third of the way into the story.

>>17509486
Well, it's as generic as generic YA fantasy gets but if that's what you're going for then there's nothing wrong with that.

>>17509522
Thanks

>>17509486
looks fine for a YA (not saying its a bad thing) but might get recognized there

>>17509093
How?

>>17509486
Stop with the comma splices and learn how to properly format dialogue.

>>17509312
I'm not wrong. My point was that it reads like shit to me. If he thinks it doesn't read like shit, hey, more power to him. But it still reads like shit to me, and I bet you that he's going to see very few views and very little praise on his posts on RR. If that's wrong, then I'm wrong. But I don't think it'll be wrong.

>>17509486
You have some issues with incorrect punctuation that you should fix before you bother writing more.

>>17509556
>shit out a story
>go on submissiongrinder advanced search
>filter by desired genre and by "simultaneous submissions allowed"
>find a couple of mags that have been accepting submissions lately
>send to editor
I sent it to about 20 magazines, got rejected by 2 and accepted by the 3rd. Withdrawing from the remaining 17 took about as long as the initial submission process.

>>17509584
What's your story about?

>>17509568
>and I bet you that he's going to see very few views and very little praise on his posts on RR. If that's wrong, then I'm wrong. But I don't think it'll be wrong.
now that's just spite right there. whatsamatta, grapes a little too sour?

>>17509610
Vaguely autobiographical story about a doctor tiring himself out so much he gets distracted and accidentally kills a patient.

>>17509632
Do you really think it's shit? Or are you just being humble? You said you shit out, so I guess you're just saying you wrote it really quickly, do you honestly think it's bad?

>>17509622
What grapes? The sweet wine of publishing two barely-edited chapters on RR? Do you even know what the "sour grapes" story is about?

>>17509637
I can't accurately judge my own work but people I showed it to before liked it. When I say "shit out" I mean I literally wrote it over the course of a few hours while in an autistic rage against my workplace. It wasn't even intended to be viewed by anyone until I showed it to someone from here and they encouraged me to try publishing it.

Is "in media res" really the only way you are supposed to start a story? It's often kind of cheesy

What does GOAT stand for

>>17509723
greatest of all time

>>17509700
I started mine just vaguely after a 'in media res' action ended. So I'd say no. Just write what you feel is right.

>>17509536
Yeah, I pretty much grew up on YA and rarely read much anymore so that's definitely influencing things. I won't be aiming for high literary fiction.
>>17509564
>>17509568
My main problem is I have next to zero motivation and am great at procrastinating. This recent desire to write and coming up with "ideas" but not actually doing anything has been going on for a couple of weeks now. I'll look into the technical stuff more now you've pointed it out but will keep writing stuff otherwise I know I'll just drop it. Like I said the most I've got is about 6 or so potential chapters that don't even connect narratively yet.

>>17509486
>Rhea
hehe

>>17509805
>Sup 'Rhea

VNs are the peak of literature. They're the final form of LITERALLY showing and not telling.

I was talking with a friend of mine about writing stories and creating things in general and he paraphrased a quote by Machiavelli:
"The archer who hits his mark is the one who aims higher than what he is trying to achieve."
And it got me thinking... Maybe there's something to that. Maybe I should aim as high as I possibly can, so that even when I inevitably have to scale back or things happen to lower my goal, I still have something really good at the end of it.
What do you guys think?

>>17508345
Please be facetious.

Anyone want anything proof-read?

>>17510085
>and he paraphrased a quote by Machiavelli:
>What do you guys think?
I think your friend might be too pesud for his own good.

>>17510132
As my left eye appears in the mirror, I am once again reminded of the secret power in my right hand, currently tightly wrapped in leather.

"Yare Yare" I sigh pointlessly, taking out the trash after having brushed my teeth.

>>17510085
I've always preferred realistic goals. If you set your goals too high, they seem unreachable, which kills your motivation.

>>17510180
Pseud is just a retarded buzzword that doesn't mean anything in 90% of applications.

>>17510252
No need to be so defensive all of a sudden.

>>17505209
Alright guys, I was really pleased with the unanimous positive responses to my horror novel segment, but I have not posted my real hit yet. I consulted /his/ as the novel concerns prehistoric fiction, and they said I should not even associate myself with this website if I am going to publish a book. You guys are my target audience! What am I supposed to do, become F. Gardner and spam memes and advertisements of my work? (this appears to be the chad option) but 4chan scares me and if I get even a tiny bit of popularity I'll be doxxed and murdered by somebody who found a spelling error on page 242

>>17510299
Don't hate the messenger.

If anyone has any comments on this passage from my short story, I'd appreciate hearing them.

This is last time I'll ask for help on this short story before I try submitting it somewhere. Appreciate all the anons who helped me with it in the other threads.

>>17510352
Nobody off of /lit/ has heard of Gardner. All the schizos on /lit/ have delusions of grandeur and would not "waste themselves" targeting you. That said, there's no going back. If you openly associate your name with this website, no publisher will touch you for decades.

>>17510352
This is what I keep telling you idiots posting your work here (i.e. the thing you actually are staking on becoming Hunger Games level big and making you a millionaire snorting coke). Do not associate yourself with the ebil Nazi website. I've never even posted what my work is vaguely about here, only its genre and a little comparison to another book.

>>17510352
Absolutely this >>17510636. I regret even posting a link to my RoyalRoad story a few months back when I was using that.
I want to get published, and if I did anything to remove my anonymity here then I feel that would seriously jeopardize my chances. I don't even want to share my work here lest someone find the archive and make a connection, though sometimes I get the urge to share a few paragraphs to see what people think.
It's fucking annoying because you just can't explain to people that you go on 4chan to discuss literature and creative writing and fucking investment strategies or whatever the fuck else, because the moment you say 4chan they think 1. alt-right. 2. hackers. 3. memes and 4. gore/CP/leaked nudes.

>>17510779
I told some of my co-workers a year back I go on 4chan and one of my co-workers was from a community I go on, nobody gave two shits. I sometimes make offhand remarks about posting on a /lit/ general on gook botnets. Nobody cares and nobody asks questions. This isn't 2007 anymore. There's paranoid and then there's shizo-paranoia.

Just don't tell agents that you beat your weiner purple to drawings or go on extreme far-left threads, or how much you really, really hate niggers and you're probably good to go. Probably. If you're that schizo then just use pen names or something for work affiliated with your online work, and use either another pen name or your real name for when you get published.

Do you get feedback when a writing magazine rejects you?

>>17510847
From what I've been told, if a magazine gives you feedback, then they want you to fix your submission and resubmit it.

>>17510826
Where I live, people very much give two shits. Some girls in my local town of 20,000 people found a thread on some shitty message board that looked a lot like 4chan where people from my town were spreading their nudes and asking for nudes of certain girls. Anyway, there was a massive fucking outrage against the evil 4chan website because of this, and now if you even mention the fucking website you get a screeching harem of slags in their early 20s calling you every name under the sun and trying to contact the fucking police lmao.

>>17510886
And just to clarify, it wasn't even fucking 4chan based on the board in the screenshot and the post numbers.

So I'm having some problems with how I should proceed with the romance for the mc
>both male lead and female lead are virgins
>ml has a crush on fl but she's not aware of it
>fl leaves ml for a trip back home for business, fl goes out with another man but it doesn't work out for them (ml doesn't know this)
>fl returns to ml's country, ml confesses, fl realizes that she actually loves him
>but ml can't stand it when he learns that fl is not a virgin while he's still one, and what happened to fl is within a short time too (half a year or so)
>ml can't decide if he wants fl for her body or personality, fl can't push ml because she feels like she has done him a wrong by entering a relationship on a whim
Any opinions on how should I continue? I'm thinking about making ml having sex with another girl and realizing that sex is just a part of the relationship and it's not as important as he originally thought.

>>17510951
Make the true romantic interest be himself. Make him realize that he can't find happiness with a woman because he doesn't like himself, and make the ultimate point of the story an uplifting message of self-love and acceptance.
Then, when he finally learns to love himself, let him love another person.

>>17510965
That's unrealistic. He would just transition.

>>17510965
Based post

>>17510965
Also they should be brother and sister

>>17510965
and make that person a man

>>17507884
>Not working with a cloud service

I work as a writing tutor for a college, AMA.

Time to stop beating around the bush.
A bit over a week ago, I began to upload my work in progress over on Royal Road. I'm not a big fan of the platform and my WIP doesn't fit the formula that is successful over there, but I need the critique that I can get over there in order to get better at this writing thing.
April last year I posted an extract on a critique board on /lit/ which was received pretty nicely, so I decided to share the RR link over here. I don't aim to be successful on RR, but I do wish to get as much critique as possible; so feel free to comment, rate, and review as you please.
Also, English isn't my native language, so if you see any grammar mistakes or something that I should be aware of, let me know.

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/39912/the-usurped-god

>>17511191
Are you a writing tutor for a college?

>>17511226
i just read the prologue and i wasn't really focussing on a line by line analysis but i liked the writing style in that it was clean, felt pleasant to read and got the point across well

i didn't get a whole lot of feel for the character from it though and it didn't really hook me as a result - he just felt like a big bland bundle of powers, and by chance he was a master thief and fighter, i didn't really get a good feel for him beyond that but obviously i'd expect that'd change in later chapters

having said that, the way you introduced magic was pretty good and probably the most intriguing part, although not enough to make me desperate to read on

I'm exhausted, but I know if I don't write tonight, I'll lose the habit. Should I write some stuff that might be subpar or work on a side project?

>>17511376
You could always work on it tomorrow instead.

>>17507422
Actually they hate him because the anime pics drives away so-called “writers” they said as much.

>>17508773
Italicize internal dialogue, especially since your story seems to have a lot of it. Rewrite Your synopsis, it's shit.

>>17511339
Thanks for the words. I agree with your comments on character, I will definitely keep it in mind for the incoming edit/rewrite.

Is it true that writers hate other writers?

>>17511573
Only if you're a bad writer. Or a cunt.

>>17511599
good writers dont hate good writers?

>>17511600
If you're a good writer you should be able to recognize and respect at least something about the other good writer. Unless one of them is a cunt, then it is unrelated to the writing.

>>17511659
is that how it has usually works though? we hear about writers feuding all the time

>>17511573
No, gamma males hate their competitors, in addition to their heroes out of envy.
I like you.

>>17511664
Not all writers are pretentious cunts, but there is some overlap.

>>17511573
I hate people who call themselves writers but have an error every paragraph. It's like someone calling themselves a mechanic but they fuck up installing something with each car. I can write, but I say "I like to write" because of them.

>Can’t come up with a name for my book
>look up how to come up with a name
>”just use something important from your book!”
>haven’t come up with the names of anything
fuck how am I supposed to come up with the names up stuff I’ve never been good at this

>>17511706
Isn't it different because authors have editors? There have probably been good authors that have been shit spellers.

>>17511707
Don't use names on the title. Rather, do a small description of that central thing. One to seven words, although seven is
pushing it.

Is it bad to lose respect for a public intellectual after you see their fiction? I read "True Allegiance" by Ben Shapiro (Harvard grad, prodigal student, wrote lauded articles at 15, etc) and it made me think he's not actually smart at all, because I thought... would a smart person actually write this terribly?

>>17511843
>>17511723

>>17511843
it's not bad but liking ben shabibo is.

>>17511707
>not calling the book after the central theme
Just find what your book is trying to say and find a good name for that.

>>17511707
if you can't think of anything creative literally just call it what the plot is, like if it's about a bee keeper just call it "The Bee Keeper"

>>17511707
i'm really good at naming things and when im having trouble, i just read the song titles off a prog rock album and that gets me inspired real quick.

How do you proceed if you have no one to give feedback on your work?

>>17512536
Just write for the sake of writing and finishing the work in question.

>>17512536
Read and copy who you like until you find your own voice.

>>17512536
appeal to the spirits of dead relatives

any examples of latin use of "mora"
or is it just a Japanese thing
I heard someone say it was used in Latin but idk
my shitty billboard of an internet search engine isn't helping get examples

>>17512536
compare it to published work in your genre

How do I deal with puritan feelings and being scared my book has too much sex

>>17512604
don't write about sex

>>17512604
write lots of sex

/wg/, how do I regain interest in a project I've gotten bored of?

>>17512656
take it in a new direction

>>17512656
Eyes on the prize. If the prize doesn't interest you, why were you writing it in the first place?

How common is the name "Guy" for protagonists in fiction? The point of the name is that he's literally just some guy and not anything special at all, a cog in a machine. Would it be better to keep the protagonist nameless?

How common is the name "Faggot" for protagonists in fiction? The point of the name is that he's literally just some faggot and not anything special at all, a cock in a machine. Would it be better to keep the protagonist nameless?

>>17512722
First character that comes to mind is Guy Gardner, one of the Green Lanterns. It's not that common I think, it definitely gives me the impression of someone who couldn't be arsed to come up with a name.

>>17512729
That's not nice!

>>17512722
Makes me think of Guy Montag from Fahrenheit 451

>>17512722
Can't waste five seconds on Wikipedia to search it up but waste a post here?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_(given_name)

>>17512722
It's a fine name but I don't think that's a good way to use it. It's somewhat uncommon in fiction because it is an uncommon name in real life. The only English example I can think of is the protagonist of Waugh's Sword of Honour novels

>>17512722
Very if he's french

>>17512746
>>17512754
>>17512769
>>17512774
Thank you! I think I've gotten what I needed, in the end I'll pick a different name

Plato by the Deathbed of Sylvia Plath

Ah yes, I put the chicken,
he is but a naked man,
I put him in the oven.

>>17512795
Go with Aman

>>17512805
because he's A man?

>>17512662
what exactly is the prize in in this context?

>>17512805
Aman Dahugginkiss

>>17511191
What are some red flags you can easily spot?

the magazine finnaly returned to me and they were nice :)

>>17511191
How bad are college writers?

I finally finished the last chapter of this arc. What an unbelievable ride these 9 months it's been. But it's over.

/wg/, how bad is it to use a random google translated word for a last name? I'm trying to come up with a fitting last name for a family, but the one I picked is stupid I feel I need to change it.

>Connie: the mother, now deceased. She liked to preserve food
>Will: her adopted son. Likes to cook, does not like being seen as "weak" which he often is
>Sandy: the aunt. Trailer trash. Abuses Will and forbids him from using his mother's last name

the family is ethnically jewish. I want the name to start with Z. It needs to be most fitting for Connie, but also have a baked-in reason for Will not to want to use it

>>17511191
Seconding >>17513071
Give us some horror stories.

>>17513424
https://www.familyeducation.com/baby-names/browse-origin/surname/jewish?page=34
Go nuts retard

>would have finished my story twice over by now if I didn't keep scrapping or rewriting entire chapters

>>17513424
Go with Zoinksbergs.

>>17513424
ZGoldstien

>>17513471
bro, i know that feel. i know that fucking feel.

Would someone be interested in reading a little over 400 lines or metre?

>>17513582
with that sales pitch how can i resist

>>17512722
I literally have called my second main character 'Guy' so do with that info what you will.

>>17513600
pls no bulli
https://theanthill.carrd.co/

>>17513471
>if I didn't keep scrapping or rewriting
every time you do it, your story gets better

>>17505336
i want to read your story. are they aliens?

>>17513622
I would like to think so but everywhere I go there is this push for writers to 'get it all out' before doing anything that resembles editing.

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/37998/wish-mountain

I start to look at other writer's profiles on RR and I get angry at how many positive reviews they have and then I get sad.

I'll get back to writing tomorrow.

Is royal road just light novels but in english?

>>17513762
You and me both, bud.

>>17513767
Yes, but with litrpg. Which is even more retarded, but hey, whatever works, apparently.

>>17505283
There are a large number of ways you can do this.
I'm about to start something similar myself.
First define the reasons why he's depressed.
You should know, but you can leave it fairly vague for the readers and leave in a few clues.
Then give him an incident where he snaps.
In fact, go above and beyond. Have him do something that's exactly the same as another hero, but people take issue when he does it. This happens in real life all the time, and that could be the point.
If others can behave this way, so can I.
Then each time he does something and people complain, he goes deeper into the hole and could become more extreme.
However he has a noble reason for doing so.
His actions can be dark, but his reasons must be noble.
He must have a line he doesn't cross, define that and then challenge it.
What would be he situation where he crosses the line?
Will he become more extreme after he crosses the line, or does he realise he's no better than the monsters he kills in which case he retires.
You could also give him a reason to cross the line. Perhaps he has a kid, and he has rules but the moment someone kidnaps or messes with his kid, that's it. There no rules. Then you can have him take out his darkest desires on the enemy at that point in time, and now his kid is influenced by it.
Now he's doing edgy shit, but for a noble enough reason.
No one ever says to a father protecting his kid that he's being edgy by killing the other people, that's a heroic thing to do.

>>17505554
I'm at 275K for a project I'm working on.
It took time.
2000 words is a lot for some people, in which case write 500 words. 500 words of even garbage is decent.
Just write.
500 words every single day. That's a lot, trust me. It might sound like not enough or more than you can do, but just do it.
500 words every single day is more than 150K in a year.
Write every single day.
Just do it.
At worst you'll fail and nothing changes.
You might fail and still have 100K words.
Would you rather fail and have 0 words, or fail and have 100K?
That's your choice to make.

I've tried all this.
I aimed for 100 words a day and have written 0.
I aimed for 2000 words a day and have written 0.
I aimed for 10,000 words a day and have written 0.
I've done the opposite too.
Either way, try out each method for about two weeks.
If none of them work, try them against for four weeks each.
Then six weeks.
It might be the word goal. It might be the time to establish the routine. It might be the time of day. It might be your diet. It might be that you've played too many or too little video games. It might be that you planned too much or planned too little. It might even be that you haven't spent enough time with your family, or your significant other, or with your friends, etc.
I found out that random shit affects my writing negatively and positively.
Just experiment and find what works for you.

>>17513090
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/31062/saga-of-the-cosmic-heroes/chapter/629701/chapter-68-memories-of-toscana-rouen-the-nastrond

Figured it wouldn't hurt dropping it here. This isn't the end of the fiction itself and I'll definitely be continuing on. But I'm pretty proud I came this far despite all the rocky bumps along the way.

>>17513990
Oh yeah, you're that writer that has a lot of potentials. I read your story and the dialog is engaging and well written. I like the idea of living in a 21-kilometer spacecraft and the characters are likable.

I liked the illustrations provided by the author's friend, and military sci fi/space opera is a very entertaining genre. The only minor nitpick I would offer is that the prose could use a little more description, it is sometimes a little hard to follow what is going on when all we get is dialog.

>>17513990
So this is the level of royal road reviews

>>17513990
>anime-inspired lit
nty

>>17514040
I hope you're not the homestuck fag

>>17513990
JK-sama, I've been reading your story from day one, and I am very happy with how the story developed. The characters are fantastic, and the world really feels alive. You have a clear picture of things, so I really enjoy the style. It's not too complicated, and the flow is great. Honestly, why haven't you tried to get into traditional publishing? You have the potential, better than the other anons here.

>>17514019
As much as this would annoy me usually, it just reminds me of my baby brother who used to love this show.

>>17514043
no

>>17514040
Honestly, this. If your story is not derivative of historical greats, why write at all?

>>17514059
>why write at all?
Because I want to tell my story and I don't care about a bunch of pretentious faggots trying to be something there not?

>>17514059
My thoughts exactly. A fruit is only as good as the tree it grows from, to aim for anything less than the western canon is futile.

>>17514066
Based fuck /lit/

>weeb writing
lol.

>>17514070
Should probably consume lots of different fruit, not just bananas.

>>17514059
>not merging anime with the greats of the canon to create a new pinnacle of literature never before seen and usher in a new renaissance
ngmi

>>17514066
If you don't write within a very narrow framework of what I think is good you'll hurt my feefees.

>>17514090
Imagine not trying to aspire to be one of the greats but instead settling for mediocrity.

>>17514084
I refuse to stoop down from my highbrow perch.

>>17514118
If I wanted to aspire to mediocrity I'd stick with the Western canon.

>>17514118
I like anime better than the canon

>>17514129
God gave us two brows though.

>>17514131
Clearly spoken by a non-western, for any westerner would highly value the Western canon for they are divine providence.

>>17514132
I like canon too and that's why I refuse to watch filler arcs.

>>17514138
funny post, redditor. Upvoted for whitty comment, gentlesir!
On a serious note since when has /lit/ become infested with animefags?

>>17514140
It is the same for those from Japan, they would value their own literature.
It is the same for those from every country, hemisphere, culture, race, gender, etc.
It is just a vain attempt to hold onto something when you yourself have provided nothing.
It is divine, and therefore cannot be criticised.
That's is why it will remain forever mediocre.
As will all literature unless you are an outsider or dare to think against the program.
I was born and raised in the country that defined the West for centuries.
I'm just not blind to the downsides of such dogma.

>>17514146
>On a serious note since when has /lit/ become infested with animefags?
Stop bitching about the animefags, I prefer them to the Redditors.

>>17514146
It is a Mongolian basketweaving forum, what did you expect.
Top kek.

>>17514170
>I was born and raised in the country that defined the West for centuries.
Which is?

>>17514172
>>17514176
Animefags and redditors tend to be alike, similar gawking faces they make when they see the children's products they consume.

>>17514209
At least the Animefags are writing something, which is more than can be said about the Redditors and anyone else on these threads.

>>17514219
see
>>17513680
>>17513614

>>17514240
Ah yes, Wish Mountain, truly the successor to the western greats of the past centuries. How could I have forgotten?

>>17514202
England.

>>17514240
Good job, anon, you found only two and a thread that constantly has people asking asinine questions that can be found with a simple google search.

>>17514256
I think you're replying to the wrong guy. He wasn't in the conversation about western greats. The western greats and the ability they have given to your reading comprehension.

>>17514267
There was a larger context to the conversation which you might have known if you could read past the most recent reply.

>>17514273
The majority of the replies had nothing to do with the broader conversation. It was just reeing about anime and the non-writers so inspired about western canon.
Oh fuck. Nevermind, you're right.

>>17514146
>On a serious note since when has /lit/ become infested with animefags?
Since the moment Anime drives away half-assed people away. They filtered their asses

>>17509662
>When I say "shit out" I mean I literally wrote it over the course of a few hours while in an autistic rage against my workplace.
Dangerously based.

>>17514287
>Since the moment Anime drives away half-assed people away.
This is one of the best cope posts i've read so far, congratulations.

>>17509662
When I say "shit out", I mean I literally spurted diarrhea out of my ass all over piece of paper until words formed.

>>17505209
I feel like writing some weird novella about a blind man in a sci-fi dystopia world, I have the beginning very clear but I've never attempted to write something that long, my style of writing is usually concise and to the point, do you guys think it's more apt for a short story or I could pull of the novella idea?

>>17514080
Nothing wrong with writing literature that’s inspired by anime.

>>17505498
I never read Worm and I don't even know what that is, but I'm going to assume that my story is nothing like worm.

>>17514321
This sounds pretty cool. My biggest piece of advice for everyone is make sure you know the ending. Everything else you can sort out during the writing, but figure out the ending. If the story ends up being shorter than a novella, then cool. That's just the length that the story needs to be and there's nothing wrong with that. If the point is to write a novella, then there will be other ideas that you can explore to suit that goal better.

>>17514321
Add an anime waifu

>>17514321
>do you guys think it's more apt for a short story or I could pull of the novella idea?
Which do you feel comfortable and prefer to write? No point in writing something you have no love in it.

>>17514345
You're probably wrong

>>17514371
Most likely, still, that won't discourage me.

>>17514345
>>17514371
It could be the same but we don't really have enough information. From the surface it seems similar enough (apparently, I haven't read Worm), but the moment it's written, they could take it in wildly different ways and could explore different philosophies and such.

I'm going to write the greatest visual novel of all time which will surpass the western canon

>>17514382
Good luck, anon. show those pretentious faggots who's boss.

>>17509340
100 days for a full novel seems like a good pace. That's 3x a year. Some people write 1 a year, some people write 10.
Do you think it's a good pace? Are you burning yourself out with this pace? Can you do more?

>>17510085
>>17513916
Whoops.

>>17514382
Then they'll just say that the medium cannot surpass the western canon due to vague notions that they will apply to one medium, but they'll ree when others do it to their own medium.

Just write the greatest work you can if that's what you want.

>>17514415
>Then they'll just say that the medium cannot surpass the western canon due to vague notions that they will apply to one medium, but they'll ree when others do it to their own medium.
Why is that, why die on that hill?

>>17514438
That is a very normal thing to do. It's the tribal mental state that almost every human engages with. They aren't dying on the hill, they are defending the hill against the other.

>>17514462
It's a pointless hill to defend.

>>17514462
why is tribalism so much fun?

>>17514472
It divides us and makes us wage war with one another.

>>17514466
That is irrelevant. People will do this no matter what. It's only human. You can see it even in this thread in the last few posts.
>lol using anime
>not western canon
>this is rr lol
>using the name guy
>why write if the prize doesn't interest you
>write about sex
>call book after central theme

We each probably have points for or against each of these things, but probably only for or against each one.

Are there still unique themes, or has everything been explored and we can only create tired and simplistic rehashes?

>>17514482
It's all so tiresome, anon. People asking the most asinine questions instead of doing a five-second search on google.

>>17514472
>>17514476
Basically.
We love conflict.
If it isn't West vs East, it's EU vs NON EU. If it isn't the EU thing, it's the individual country. If it isn't the country, it's the county. If it isn't the county, it's the city. If it isn't the city, it's the neighbourhood. If it isn't the neighbourhood, it's the street. If it isn't the street, it's the home. If it isn't the home, it's the family. If it isn't the family, it's me.
You and me, we aren't the same. My name begins with this letter, and your name is this letter. If our names are the same, then it's spelt different. If it isn't that, then it's the reason why I was named it.
That's it.
That's how it'll always be.

>>17514487
All you can create at this point is tired and simplistic rehashes of stories already written a dozen times before.

>>17514489
Yeah I know.
I'm going to do this tribal thing.
Is it asinine?
Sure.
What if I'm asking the question here because I want the lens of the forum I'm from?
What if I already did that, but they didn't answer it in the way that I identify.

Hey, what is your opinion on fantasy.
A - Fantasy is just for writers that aren't able to write anything of note that isn't for children. See great writers like Joyce if you want to write anything of note.

B - lol fantasy u fuckn nerd read joyce retard

>>17514476

And differentiation follows from any normative value. If you value a quality to a sufficient standard, e.g. beauty, honesty, etc. then that valuation is only reasonable if something of that quality which is insufficient in comparison to sufficient things can be defined. If everything is sufficient to qualify, then no distinction has been made at all. I everything is deemed beautiful, then what does beauty mean if it cannot be defined in relation to anything else? If it isn't possible to be inadequately beautiful or outside of the category of beauty.

The only reliable alternative to conflict is apathy and inaction. Where values and interests are either not held at all, or never acted upon

>>17514507
In the same way that everyone has the same ideals, but they see it in a different way. If we agree on something, that's scary. How can someone that's darker than me agree with me? Now I must find the difference between you and I in order to believe that I am better.

>>17514356
>>17514366
Thank you anons

>>17514525
Even if you end up hating what you write, finish it. Finish it. Don't let it become an excuse for the future.

>>17514525
What this, anon >>17514548 said. Finish it, no matter what?

>>17514503
Joyce is shit, though.

>TFW The Great Gatsby is the only Great American Novel you like.
I just can't finish reading the other supposed Great American Novels

>>17513642
Define aliens, anon.

>>17514487
At this point in time, everything is extremely derivative and nothing is unique or original.

>>17514592
Was anything ever not derivative though?

How do you guys write without being distracted so easily. I feel like a seek out distractions to postpone writing.

>>17514602
Gilgamesh.

>>17514607
We just don't have records of what it was derived from

>>17514611
Which, in essence, makes it the only original and unique story ever told in the history of literature.

>>17514615
Only in retrospect though. If we lost all record of Gilgamesh and it was forgotten, it would become something else.

>>17514623
That, I will agree with you, which is a shame.

>>17514382
What’s it going to be about?

>>17507506
Well, shit, I'm a writer for seven years now, apparently.

>>17507884
Fuck, I know how you feel, anon. I honest to god suffered from this and I wanted to kill myself.

>>17514653
Doesn’t whatever you to write make a quick copy if something like this happens?

>>17514661
Sometimes, the file becomes corrupt.

>>17514663
Ah, I’m sorry for your lose then.

>>17506916
Does this shit actually works or are you just taking the piss?

>>17514672
The great writer Gardner makes mad money due to his ads. So I think it does.

>>17514677
Taking the piss, got it.

>>17505457
Well, shit, anon, you have a knack for writing, keep doing it, might want to fix the ending though.

>>17505457
Why didn't he just break up with one of them and keep seeing the other, is he autistic?

>>17514720
>is he autistic?
Yes, did it not show up?

>>17514577
They’re all big memes. Most people here haven’t read them and are just trying to flex.

>>17514724
But why

>>17505268
What about them?

>>17513990
>>17513090
I love your prose. Can you give some tips for an aspiring writer like me?

>>17514773
>Can you give some tips for an aspiring writer like me?
Just keep on writing, anon. And don't be something you're not, write the story you want to write and nothing more or less.

>>17514773
>Can you give some tips for an aspiring writer like me?
Don't be a weeb and you're that much closer to fame. Was Dante a weeb? Was Tolstoy a weeb? No, they weren't.

>>17514738
I read them.

>>17514780
Thanks

>>17514811
>Was Dante a weeb? Was Tolstoy a weeb? No, they weren't.
Who gives a shit about them? Forge your own writing career without piggybacking others.

New thread for those who wish to switch.

>>17514840

>>17514561
This post is why I picked him.

>>17514604
Write ten words once you're done with reading this post. Just do it. Write it on your phone, on a piece of paper, computer, whatever. Just do it.

>>17514888
You're a fucking faggot, now suck my dick bitch.

I did it.

>>17514899
You're a fucking faggot now suck my dick.

Careful with commas.

>>17514909
Well now it’s just a straight run on instead of a comma splice. Needs a semicolon or a word like “so” in the middle if you want to keep it one sentence. But it really should be two.