/lit/ - Literature

How about no, old chum.

>>1750591
You do not have to take part in the challenge, that is true.

challenge accepted.

i win.

That never happened

tell your student to go away if you have one

Do you see it, your desire to appease this girl's expectations? You hold lack within your being.

The perfected being never seeks to gratify another's reality, it says "there is one truth," let us be one and understand it. (Stick your pee pee in her)

>>1750610
Ok, let me start then: how would you define your relationship with the current state of theory?

> world-famous, yet young, literary theorist
> listens to female student
> challenge on 4chan

assuming the first claim is actually true, this thread represents literary theory perfectly.

Regarding OPs premise: I wouldn't even know what such a "challenge" would consist of.

>>1750610
Wait! Don't answer yet! OH GOD OH GOD MY COCK IS SO FUCKING HARD PLEASE DON'T STOP OH GOD!!! I'M GOING TO CUM ALL OVER MY HOT FEMALE STUDENT'S TITS!!! OH!!! OH!!! OH!! OH!! OH! OH!! OH Oh oh.

famous literary theorist is a null set

Literary Theorists=post-grads who failed at creative writing but can't face the traumatic fact that they are not artistically talented.

captcha: troodat for

>world-famous
>literary theorist

>>1750639

Due to people impersonating me, I've decided to use a tripcode.

>>1750647
I regard literary theory as a form of creative writing, especially since the major claims of poststructuralism began losing some of their prestige.

>>1750659
>>1750658
Well...

>>1750629
where's your letter of surrender

How does one becomes world famous if he is a literary theorist? I suspect foul play and a weak grasp on what the word "famous" stands for. May I suggest the supplement "troll" to your self imposed title

>>1750673
You seem to be quite ignorant of the changes my profession has undergone in last four decades. Many very arcane studies have gained widespread recognition far beyond the realm of academia.

>>1750585
i posit, sirrah, that you are a penultimate faggot.

defend yourself!

>>1750680

>>1750678
A fine rebuttal, but self defeating in the sense that my ignorance, and I suspect this forum's in general further reinforces my observation

>>1750659
>I regard literary theory as a form of creative writing
Well, most people who have resorted to criticism would cling to the same delusion.
"All critics should be executed"--Antonin Artaud (a talented created writer)

>>1750678
no they haven't.

No matter what you guys write in the forewords and introductions of your manifests of intellectual masturbation: Nobody cares about literary theory. Maybe that's a sad thing. But looking at this here, maybe it isn't.

>>1750693
But a literary theorist also.

>>1750678
>literary theory
>profession

oops, you seem to have made a little typo there, you wrote "profession" instead of "masturbatory hobby with no redeeming qualities"

This thread is the worst. OP, say something smart or GTFO.

>>1750701
In the grand scale of things, nobody care about literature itself.

>>1750705
Literary Theory wasn't his profession. GAH WHY AM I FEEDIN THE TROLL

>>1750713
>implying there is a grand scale
you are no literary theorist, betch

>>1750713
>Implying the Carl Marx's or Maynard Keynes's work hasn't changed the very economic, social, moral and political fabric of civilization worldwide more than once

>>1750690
In any case, my work is read and appreciated by many thousands of people, I make about 200.000 USD a year (lecturing and publishing), and I feel very much engaged in the very central core of contemporary preoccupations.

My profession is the only one that can claim close affiliations with fields as heterogenous as the natural sciences, politics, philosophy, the arts (literary theory is curious about other things than texts too), the specialized as well as the lay reading public, state institutions and independent cultural systems.

>>1750737
> Carl Marx
> Carl
> C

if you want to you C, its charlie... otherwise its Karl

>>1750722
Lyotard is somewhat passé, don't you know? In which backwoods state college are you stuck?

Grand narratives are back, bitch.

>>1750739
if you are in fact a literary theorist, would you mind giving a rough outline of your literary theory?

>>1750722
Well it couldn't be, because our profession emerged in the late fifties as a distinct field of research, Empson and Wilson excepted.

His literary criticim is what he is best remebered for.

If you were an actual theorist, you would have posed something in your outset. This seems to just be bragging about an unproven success.

Rather sad, really.

>>1750746
>Commenting on Carl and not using "the" before his name
>incompetent grammar nazi detected

>>1750739
>only making $200k/year

phd in maths here, you're small fry, bitch.

>>1750763

Math? Hows that teaching at high school working out for you?

>>1750761
> doesn't know the difference between grammar and orthography

>>1750752
At the moement I work on the topic of literature and knowledge. My approach focuses on the historical development of cynicism as cognitive process, and on the birth of the naive (candor) as a poetological absolute. If you like, my work claims that poetics and hermeneutics are virtually indistinguishable since the mid 19th century.

>>1750770
beats having to mob the hallways of some community college and pretending to know
a) girls
b) literary theory

why don't you point out to us what remarkable thoughts you developed, that made you "world famous"?

oh, right...

>>1750772
>implying a grammar nazi wont comment on orthographic errors with the same self reassuring pseudointellectual way as when commenting on grammar errors.

>>1750775
what changed that they became undistinguishable?

Sounds a bit like Hayden Whites "Meta-History".

Which is something I am obliged to detest by profession.

>>1750763
This is a very good salary in my field, mind you.

>>1750792
No no, Hayden White has nothing to do with. No emplotment, no "modes" or any such claptrap.

>>1750792
Undistinguishable, because literary texts stage hermeneutics as the approximation of esthetics, not meaning.

>>1750794
10 bucks an hour is a good wage in the fast food field. that doesn't mean it's anything to brag about on the internet.

>>1750800
but still: what changed that you can say they (hermeneutics and poetics) become interchangable descriptors since then and not before?

>>1750807
come down, come down. I used to work for BCG, where the pay was ten times as much. Still prefer what I do now.

>>1750811
It was the influence of protestant higher criticism on european realism that is changed everything within two decades.

> young
> world famous literary theorist
> used to work for the Boston Consulting Group

suddenly the world financial crisis makes sense!

>>1750804
"topic of literature and knowledge." You are an idiot.

>>1750832
let me rephrase it then: fuck you.

Your self fulfillment is counted by the figures of your salary and your inflated ego about essentially being another dead weight on the well being of humanity.
Enjoy buying moments of fleeting happiness with this paycheck because of social pressure, consumerism and the culture industry.

>>1750859
exactly

>>1750585
Ligeti was a great composer

I just got back and
>grand narratives are back
Wow, so regression is now accepted as progress?

>Phd in Literary theory
>200k/year
>Troll any /lit/ I want

>>1751105
How can you even use the word "progress" if you deny the validity of grand narratives?

>>1751121
Why are you falling into the trap I set for you?

>>1751097
Do you know his Nonsense Madrigals? Recently heard them for the first time, just fantastic stuff.

>>1751125
No friend, I do not believe this was a trap, sadly for you.

>My approach focuses on the historical development of cynicism as cognitive process

Expand. . .

Also, if D&E was here he would destroy you because he's like, the king of /lit/ and he's the bravest man I know and he's german and so is cleverer than you.

>>1750585

I am a fag.

okay. post some content about cynicism as a cognitive process

>>1751156
>>1751165
>>1751166
See? Obviously, there is something to it maybe?

You are all posting in a nigga thread.
>Historical development of cynicism as a cognitive process
>cynicism as a cognitive process
>cognitive process
>process
He just strung some hot sounding words together. He is a fraud.
also
>200k/year

>>1751175
Process meaning that knowledge, ah shit I can't even be bothered to explain such simple stuff. Process acknowledges the the fact that cognition is never completed, that's all.

Poor OP, he has no trip and has been drowned in a swell of impersonators. Yet you can tell who the real one is because of his use of superfluous terms. I wonder where the other tripfags are. A few of them like this sort of confrontation.

>>1751192
but...what if you wanna stop?!

>>1751192
I know what a process is, and how it may be applied to cognition, but cynicism would can not be called a cognitive "process". This is pro-ideological stinking thinking, it covers for the fact that cynicism is a choice, made each time in the moment of choosing. I mean your "historical development of cynicism as a cognitive process" is riddled with quasi-determinism, quasi-marxism and quasi-psychology

>>1751203
>>1751203
Cynicism is a process insofar as it is a form of knowledge that is grounded in its own verification, and as such can never be taken as a form of metaphysics.

>>1751218
>cynicism as a form of knowledge
Nah, bro if cynicism approaches epistemology it's not being done correctly.

>>1751218
i knew that when i was 18

>>1751224
Not the verification of its epistemology, you dummy

>>1751224
Nihilism you mean.

are you using verification in a primitive way or something cause you do understand the problems of reference and blah right

>>1751239
If cynicism ever approaches verification it's not being done correctly
>>1751252
No, you actually mean skepticism, and not cynicism, and you think I mean Nihilism, but you don't seem to know what that means either.

scout you are outdated. go back to school already.

>>1751260
Ok, I don't want to get into that. Get a dictionary and some Proust, come back in a few months.

>>1751264
I'm outdated and we're talking about Cynicism, something from Ancient Greece. That's the thing about people who d ride academia historicizing their own mistakes.

>>1751270
Proust is only relevant to this discussion vaguely, and I wouldn't waste my time. Also, which dictionary do you use?

>>1751273
>cynicism
>from greece
you can't be this dumb

>>1751260

I always miss scout.
OP likes flipping through his Abrams Literary Glossary and posting terms.

>>1751277
Proust is highly relevant to my work, I assure you.

First of all, I take no moral stance toward cynicism; I see it - with P. Sloterdijk - as a phenomenological fallacy. Cynicism has nothing to do with the way the teenager you seem to be would read Beckett, or Céline, or Gracian for that matter.

>>1751288
Cynicism (Greek: κυνισμός), in its original form, refers to the beliefs of an ancient school of Greek philosophers known as the Cynics.

>>1751310
the sun is the sun before you critters came around.

>>1751308
You are attacking your own position, it seems. You call cynicism a cognitive process, with "historical development", while I correctly place it in its proper context, denying it any kind of the autonomy you seem to give it. Also, name drop some more.

>>1751306
The mirror and the Lamp is, indeed, one of my favorite works of lit. crit., along with some versions of pastoral.

>>1751317
So you like bakelite dildos best?

>>1751328
what kind would you recommend

>>1751308
Phenomenological is the worst word.

Are you attractive? Attractive professors are best. Also what do you think of Nabokov/Nabokov's criticism if you're going to use that fuckawful p word.

Would you fuck your student?
Where did you get your degrees?
What was your GPA going into grad school?
What's your favorite pleasure reading?
What is the worst book you've had to read for a class?
Do you think women are capable of writing "great literature?"
Do you have any real hobbies?
What's your favorite animal?

>>1751328
No I'm not stuck in the past, I just think you're a troll. Successful though.

>>1751334
Are you attractive? Attractive professors are best. Also what do you think of Nabokov/Nabokov's criticism if you're going to use that fuckawful p word.

I am reasonably attractive.

Would you fuck your student?

Not this one.

Where did you get your degrees?

Nanterre, then Brown, then secret.

What was your GPA going into grad school?

Can't remember. Superior probably.

What's your favorite pleasure reading?

Waugh.

What is the worst book you've had to read for a class?

Margaret Drabble, The Radiant Way


Do you think women are capable of writing "great literature?"

If they are lesbians and from Allegheny, Pennsylvania, then yes.

Do you have any real hobbies?

Walking leisurely.

>>1751356
>mfw a literary critic hasn't read Ada

Waugh is ok though. A Handful of Dust was a bit whiny but had a cool ending. There's as much criticism as I do. I'm glad you think so highly of my state's lesbians, but you missed my last question... that was the most important one...

>>1751375
I like donkeys. There.

>>1751399
Pro choice, Sancho.

>>1751419
Let me make a revelation. I am a troll, but most of what I wrote, I truly believe in. Never had anything to do with academia. I am a translator, bored to death in a hotel room in Italy. Waugh was a lie, correct answer would be Tintin. Donkey was truthful. Alleged work in progress (cynicism) is my general opinion of european realism and the American Renaissance. I do make about 200.000 a year, probably one of the best paid literary translators in the world.

There, I said it.

>>1750585
>I dare you to challenge my supreme command of critical discourse.

Thats not something to be proud of.