/lit/ - Literature

>>17523619
Revolt Against the Modern World?

>>17523639
Yeah obviously but I mean extra

>>17523619
Industrial Society And Its Future

was punk rock there specifically to be counter culture just for the purpose of being counter culture or was it an organic genre that people genuinely enjoyed?

>>17523645
>Muh trad wheat field
Lol always the same>>17523645

>>17523679
You should read it, that's literally the cover for americans because they're obsessed with wheat fields.

I have the original french edition which is pic related.

>>17523619
What's up with modern Trads being obsessed with the aesthetics of transgression? Clearly their ideas are not appealing on their own without being presented as anti- status quo contrarianism.

>>17523752
i suppose its the idea of 'fighting back' that people like as it can give them more purpose however hollow it may be. people think they can 'fight the system' by buying a rebellious shirt from hot topic that was made in the same Bangladeshi factories as another other garment but because the shirt displays something rebellious or against the status quo it makes one think they are part of something larger than themselves when they literally aren't

>>17523677
In my opinion a bit of both - the format of a punk song is not all that different to a hard rock song. The main stylistic difference is drenching the guitar in distortion and the careless vocals. As it developed in England with bands like the Sex Pistols, there was also the element of singing in working class vernacular / with an English accent.

But, the character of the bands were different. They took the outlandish behaviour of previous rock bands and turned it up to the extreme. Where rock bands - despite their drug taking and flamboyant appearance - tried to sanitise their image when appearing in public, the Sex Pistols were intentionally and unapologetically provocative. Their clothing was provocative, their hairstyles were provocative, Sid Vicious wore a swastika armband to be provocative and they were boisterous live on air. Famously, a British talk show was actually suspended because they were swearing and being vulgar on air.

They mostly had a left wing slant (all though neo nazi and right wing variants did arise) but their politics weren’t all that extreme really, they just said things and adopted certain revolutionary tropes to entrench their contrarianism. But, seriously political bands modelled after the Sex Pistols did also come about.

I believe it’s fair to say punk is a reactionary movement to the rise of neoliberalism, and used challenging every aspect of polite society as a vehicle to challenging the system. It’s fair to say that now every social more of the previous age has been unravelled, the reactionary right is kinda “punk” but it’s in the interest of the right to distance itself from such a label as although punk was energetic it was associated with ignorance and uncouthness - an image unfortunately that has been lent to the right by degenerate hooligans and skinheads throwing up romans after football games.

>>17523752
They want the power of being the "true" victims/underdogs.

>>17523752
The idea of having to work every day to sustain alone your stay at home wife who's pooping child after child and still go to church in your free time is very unattractive to most Western men now. The only ones who desire it are LARPers, contrarians or simply retards.

>>17523797
How is it any better if your wife works too

>going to church just to be different
that's a sin

>>17523821
Higher family income (and less children, which are very expensive and time consuming).

>>17523821
Better financial security, if he loses his job, there is still her salary to live from. More money for contraception, so less kids. Her friend's circle isn't limited to neighborhood, so she would be more open to idea to stay at home rather than go to church.

>>17523841
>More money for contraception, so less kids.
"sorry wife, on my wage alone we can't afford contraception" lol what world do you live in.

>>17523619
Yes cause doing what a majority of Americans do anyways is totally counter culture

as Burns said:
If that she be fruitfu', O! what joy is there!
If she should be barren, less will be my care

>>17523838
>>17523841
These are good points I think.
Women without higher education are also completely boring to talk with if you have /lit/ hobbies.

>>17523752
I just want to yeoman in peace. But every single one of my social interactions has been subverted by the same ideology.

Hence, rebellion.

>>17523871
good luck

>>17523863
>majority of Americans

>>17523619
>The next real literary "rebels" in this country might well emerge as some weird bunch of anti-rebels

normal person: gets gf knocked up and marries her, brings kids into the world and raises them... all without thinking about it

>>17523858
What money they might put aside, poor people are more likely to spend on cigarettes and cheap booze than condoms, so they take risk and bring into the world as many children as the wife can give birth to. If some don't survive... well, that's life.
When you have more money you are generally more satisfied with life, as you can now afford not just cigarettes, better quality alcohol and good condoms, but also a safer life for your child, so there is not much reason to go for higher numbers.

>>17523677
Punk was an easily commodifiable rebellious aesthetic that arose out of shitty dance dance music from the 70s. Punk was never "punk" to begin with.

>>17523619
>Starting a family is the new counterculture
>Going to church is the new punk rock

>/pol/cels think having sex is a revolutionary act

>>17523841
>More money for contraception, so less kids.
Damn, sorry bitch I can't afford a $5 pack of trojans, I guess we'll have to spend thousands of dollars to have you birth a baby

>>17523868
if she stays at home she could read more than you

>>17523752
Being a 17-year-old trad cath zoomer stems from a desire to be different just like other edgy movements.

the people most likely to have a ton of kids are the welfare class and the wealthy because they have infinite free time and no money concerns, wagies cuck themselves and their own posterity by choosing to work rather than just sucking at the gubmints everflowing teet

>>17523770
>I believe it’s fair to say punk is a reactionary movement to the rise of neoliberalism
i believe you're fucking delusional and or retarded

i'm reacting about the heckin neoliberal pissworld by adopting an identity centered around the media i consume and the clothes i wear

>>17523935
kek were did you find that

>>17523960
If she has enough free time, that is

my fertile tradwife with fibromylgia reads at least 20 volumes of historical erotica per week

>>17523619
>flags in church
Absolutely disgusting.

>>17523619
How is middle school going?

>>17523619
>Le 1950s Suburbia Americana kitsch is traditionalist
when will this meme stop

>>17524079
There was a “this is what they took from you” barbecue picture that made me laugh.

>>17523619
Capitalist Realism by Mark Fisher

>>17523821
>your wife
You have a lot of faith in progressives.

>>17523619
pic related accurate because just like punk rock it pretends to subvert the status quo but is still perfectly part of the logic that they think they rebel against. completely empty lukewarm revolting.

>>17524094
return to barbeque

>>17523619
Nah being an apolitical free thinker is the new punk rock since politics and race obsession is the new mainstream

>>17524149
Whoa! Not giving a heck is the new radical!

>>17523838
You will always have an issue with the idea of having children, if you view them in those terms.

>>17524155
Why care so much about shit you will never change and most of the time, are being manipulated into feeling? Free your mind from political cuckoldry

>>17523797
If you want evidence of why western birthrates have fallen, and of the general cultural nihilism, look at this thread.
In an ideal world only one member of the family would have to work, but that's been long gone since the 60s revolution. Now both sexes can wage slave yay

Just read Spengler

>>17523868
>>17523960
>>17524008
I don't think any of you understand women if you think a woman with "higher education" is in any way shape or form less of a banal womanchild than her uneducated counterpart. All of them shitpost on their twitter feed and masturbate. Their colleges can shove as much Foucalt and Marx down their throat until they vomit and they'll still go back to their YA genre fiction.

>>17523619
>Good books about revolting against the modern world? Rejecting modernity and embracing tradition, like guides
Families and church attendance in the evangelical tradition is on the rise, we live on the conservative utopia.

>>17523950
>Spend thousands of dollars
Ahahahahaha. Nah they just get subsidiaries from the state.
That's why every Abdul and his Fatima pump out 20 kids here in the UK

>>17524079
Still nicer than what's left of a decent family life today

>>17524195
It never existed though is the point.

>>17524186
The conservative utopia exists in your mind. You made it up because right wing media has purposely made you fear current society in order to pacify and control you.

>>17524184
>All of them shitpost on their twitter feed and masturbate.
So the same thing men do.

>>17524202
Absolutely retarded Reddit take

>>17523838
>Higher family income
What a joke. It's true that these days you'd need two people for a livable wage, but back when women worked the salary of one man was enough to sustain a family of like five. The only thing women working has done is cut wages in half as it doubled the workforce. Also made women and men competetive rather than cooperative and only fueled feminist lunacy with glass ceiling shit.

>>17524214
i don't have twitter

>>17524202
>literally false consciousness
This would be a lot less ridiculous if the left didn't control essentially every lever of power.
For all intents and purposes, there is no right wing media. There is progressive media, and progressive media driving the speed limit.

>>17524214
The keyword is 'all'. The woman is inherently a conformist specimen after all.

>>17524219
Ok political cuck. Sorry you can't be a free thinker who experiences reality unhindered like me and has to make up delusional utopias in their head to feel safe

>>17524226
>muh evil leftist boogeyman
This is what being a political cuck sounds like

>>17524199
>>17524202
There is clear evidence of a decline from traditional morality and abolition of the traditional family structure, hence the 'need' in Western countries for Juan, Abdullah, and whoever else to have children whilst living in state subsidiaries.
The same elites you leftists supposedly hate are the ones who encourage this.

>>17524202
>The conservative utopia exists in your mind. You made it up because right wing media has purposely made you fear current society in order to pacify and control you.
This is true, but I'm outside the loop.

>>17523619
>posting western traditionalist unironically

>>17524237
>Brooo nothing is realllll
You do sound like a massive faggot though.

>>17524242
You say boogeyman as if I cannot refer to these people and organizations by name.
The fucking NYT bragged about their achievements.

>rebelling by conforming
>feeling nostalgic about something you never experienced

>>17523619

>>17524243
Everytime someone accuses someone of being a leftist based on no evidence at all, i just can't take their opinion seriously because i already know they are a low iq mindfucked political cuck

>>17524272
>Everytime someone accuses someone of being a leftist based on no evidence at all
it is 100% self-evident.

not him btw.

>>17524272
Leftism is the default position in today's society. Not being explicitly anti-leftist at any given time is sufficient evidence that one is a leftist.

>>17524263
Conforming to what? Western societies don't encourage traditional family values or morality, they encourage you and your 'partner' to work for pennies whilst some immigrant pumps out kids to keep birthrates up

>>17524250
Where is this conservative utopia? Some redneck shit town in Alabama full of white relatives that fuck each other?

>>17523752
They are locked within the headspace of their opponents, their opponents control all information and propaganda, and so their ethical framework of victimhood and rebellion is also defined by that. The same way his idea of "starting a family" includes a picture of some 50's era commercial advertisement. They are trapped within modernity.

>>17524283
t. yank

>>17524283
The mask slips ahahahaha, that didn't take long

>>17524280
i have never said this before to anyone and i hate when someone says it to me, but please, for the love of god, have sex

>>17524272
You literally told him that the 'right wing media' has brainwashed him into disliking the benevolent state (while not mentioning that the more dominant and prevalent mainstream media can do the exact same thing). No evidence? lmao

>>17524280
So if I'm an apolitical free thinker who is anti speech control, anti-corporation, and anti-socialism yet just because I think the far right are political cucks too, im a leftist? I thought /lit/ was supposed to be the intelligent board on 4chan

>>17524155
>Not giving a heck is the new radical
This. Unironically. Stop actually caring about things and just observe

>>17524272
>Broooo you cuck! Just ignore the massive societal shift that has occured in the last 60 years! Ignore the 'leftists' in all institutions and positions of power!
>Just let them win bro! It's not real!

>>17524309
Based and "intriguing"-pilled

>>17524307
No buddy, you're right wing. Sorry to break it to ya but that's about where the overton window lies now.

>>17524310
Ride the tiger

>>17524293
What he said is true, muh leftist critics virgins epic

>>17524309
It's hard to just 'observe' when the radical changes that occur will effect you, your family, and your future. I.e. only if you have some investment in reality, which you clearly don't.

>>17524315
But I hate this traitorous faggot and I would never align myself with all of the people who still kneel to him

>>17524202
bet this fag wears two masks

>>17524343
Nahh i constantly pick apart all the retarded hypocrisies involved with this pandemic but once again, because Im not a political cuck, i would never align with the anti maskers though because they align themselves with Traitor Trump

>>17524337
You say it as if that's relevant. The actual natsocs hate Don's guts and the NRX were saying he wasn't going to change shit since day one.

Fact is, the establishment wants you dead because your values are incompatible with their ideological project. You're right wing buddy.
Malice is right about that at the very least.

>>17524307
anyone who is 'apolitical' is going to be influenced by the mainstream neutral view, which is leftist. also the fact that you consider conservatives 'far right' doesn't help.

>>17524293
The saddest part is I already have.
>>17524307
Unless you are constantly denouncing leftists and leftism, you are doing the work of the political left. right wing politics today is an impossibility. There is only leftism and anti-leftism. The former is a passive stance, the latter an active one.

>>17523619
Why I Am Not A Liberal by Jonathan Bowden

>>17524356
>pandemic
>evil Blumpf
bro sounds like the media got to you with their fear

>>17524356
>I don't like a politician
>therefore I don't agree with a single thing any of his supporters have ever expressed support for, whether related to said politician or not
This is why America is so full of niggers

I don't see how leftists itt and elsewhere cannot see how much control they exert over modern western societies, you only have to look at the 'riots' last year, along with the massive social change that has occured over the last 60 years.
It's like they simultaneously celebrate their victory, yet deny it so they can keep society in flux. It's quite odd. E.g. muh right wing media is so so dangerous!!!
The only term I can give it is a psyop, dunno what else you'd call it.

>>17524356
>im not political
>i would never agree with people who supported this political candidate

your mind is absolutely dominated by politics to the point you cant think about anything without referring to it before anything else.

>>17524378
I never said Trump was evil, he is either a liar at best or a traitor at worst if he literally ran into hiding like a scared pussy and did nothing to support the people who were fighting for him but then instead used his political power to pardon child abusing niggers on top of that. Yea fuck him and anyone who still kneels to him

>>17524410
Because they don’t actually control anything. You see, they are eternal misanthropes and revolutionary whiners. No matter what the circumstances, they will be unsatisfied and thus, feel themselves to not have any sort of control over any situation even if they’re aligned with the system in values 99% and the system enforces all of their ideals, which they ask for either knowingly or unknowingly, across the world. To the leftist mind, it’s still not good enough.

>>17524412
No, im just detailing the reasons why I am not. Because i would be a hypocrite like most of you if I said I was conservative yet hated the person who led the conservative party and also I believe in individual freedoms which trigger most righties.

>>17524410
E.g.
>I want a more moral society, with focus on promotion of family values and the rollback of the hedonistic culture which surrounds us

>Hehe you're brainwashed by conservatives Ecks deeeeee

>>17524410
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

They don't want to see it and they don't have to see it because they have all the cultural control, they see the social change but there is always something people can make up which has not yet been changed, like biology, which is a battle they will never win. So long as trans people kill themselves and black people commit crime there will always be something that can justify them giving themselves more and more power.

>>17524428
>i would be a hypocrite like most of you if I said I was conservative yet hated the person who led the conservative party
Are you that mindkilled that you can't understand having one's own political opinions as a conservative?
>I believe in individual freedoms which trigger most righties
Ah yeah, libertarians, famous leftists.

>>17524428
Why would that be hypocritical? You can belong to an ideological group without liking the current person who represents that group. It's not like Trump is the pope of conservatism.

>I believe in individual freedoms which trigger most righties.

??? thats like a fundamental belief of most right wingers that arent the 1% of dissidents. conservatism is a branch of liberalism.

>>17524428
Are you 15?

Traditionalists don't take it far enough, we need to go back to the mesolithic age. Agriculture was a big mistake.

>>17524460
Someone needs to read Ted's critique of anarcho-primitivism.

>>17524462
Ted doesn't make any attempt to mask the inherent brutality of Anarcho-Primitivism society. He still prefers it to a Industrial one, and if the conditions required to completely overthrow Industrial Society would lead to that conclusion, then so be it.

>>17524439
>>17524423
Interesting points. A good example is the argument surrounding mass immigration, which isn't usually something the citizen of whatever nation voted for.
The level of control wielded is demonstrated well when a complaint regarding the radical change of an area basically gets rebuked by 'we don't like you and immigrants are better in every way, btw you never had any native claim to this land'. They always state their aims whilst telling you how much they hate you, and they hardly get any negative responses.

>>17523838
>higher family income
Kek. The average man working a job in 1950 made more money (relative to inflation) than an average 2 income family in 2021.

>>17523752
>modern trads
Wtf does this mean? Do you mean epic memers on 4chinz and Twitter?

>>17524492
Lmao. The traditional family structures are degraded, both husband and wife are forced to wageslave, and cucks like the man you replied to only have the retort of:
>Well akshully kids are annoying and a waste of time, just wageslave with your wife instead haha

>>17524004
Not that anon, but I made it and first shared it on Discord.

>>17523619
>western traditionalist
why would you post this complete joke for any other purpose than to make fun of him? alphacuck

>>17524533
Tranny

It's funny to see 'leftists' get so upset that someone doesn't want to participate in the decaying culture of a modern western state, and wants something more virtuous for them and their family than what is currently on offer. E.g. consumerism and rapidly declining moral structures combined with artificial social politics

>>17524018
based

fuck her in the pooper

None of you niggers know what Tradition is. None of you.

>>17524633
>tradition
>evola

complete meme, the guy who joins the russian orthodox church is far more TRADITIONAL than someone who reads le mystical monocle fascist man

>>17524654
You've just been filtered, if you read Evola you'd have an understanding of what is mentioned in that meme.
E.g. it's more than just old words and practices

>>17524654
>>17524718
This. You need to understand his analysis, to gain a more thorough understanding of the traditional lifestyle he's promoting. By reading Evola, he'll make you realize how insipid the modern conception is, he'll walk your dog, make you some cookies, read you a story, give you a goodnight kiss, wash your penis, clean your room, fuck your bitches, do your homework, write your novels, jack you off, read and critique the complete works of F. Gardner.

>>17524410
Read Industrial Society and Its Future to see Dr Ted's analysis of the leftist mind.
It's quite illuminating.

>>17524633
Bad meme.

>>17524718
Ironically, I think you have a poor understanding. Mistaken purism is the single biggest problem among “Traditionalist readers”.

Epicurean bro communes that are low-tech, self-sustaining art producing groups are the way of the future

>>17523752
The trad worldview makes perfect sense once you have a daughter.

>>17524807
Evola dedicates an entire chapter as to what constitutes Tradition. Being a willfully ignorant fool and twisting the concept is entirely on you, and actually plays right along with what Evola described as methods of subversion in the occult war. You are a useful idiot.

>>17524784
>>17524718
What religion is Evola? If it's some kind of pagan mystical shit then I'm not interested.

>>17524838
How is that occultist faggot degenerate the authority of what tradition is?

>>17524844
He's literally one of the main figures of neopaganism.

>>17524844
>If it's some kind of pagan mystical shit then I'm not interested.
That’s exactly what it is, aka “I like the idea of tradition and spirituality but I wanna keep being a coomer”.

>>17523619
People like this don’t read books.
They are the political inverse of the left puss who buy “white fragility” only to read a few pages then leave it on their shelf unfinished. The only difference is that these people do it for epic meme points rather than smug wokeness

>>17523752
>their ideas are not appealing on their own
Whereas progressive ideas only need to be brainwashed into kids from age 5 for the next 15 years, blasted from every corner of corporate media, and defended by punishing people who question them. Very organic.

>>17524849
Because Evola and his contemporaries (Guenon, etc) went at great lengths to identify and define Tradition, as opposed to tradition, based retard. They are literally considered the figureheads of the movement.

>>17523619
Every liberal millennial gets married.

>>17524838
First of all, Julius Evola had his own views which department from every other so-called Traditionalist. Second, neither he nor his mentor, René Guenon, engaged Orthodox Christianity, which is specifically referenced in the meme, to any significant degree. He quite literally flatly refused to do so and wasn’t even interested in having conversations about it. The meme is stupid and implies something basically irrelevant nonsense. The fact that you’re even thinking in memes or think this stupid meme is somehow salient ironically shows you are the total antithesis to the quote by Julius Evola shown on the right.

>>17524844
He called himself a Catholic Pagan, but what he meant by that and what it seems like everyone thinks he means by that are different things. Some people have speculated that he was secretly a Sufi but I just don’t think that’s true from having read a lot of his personal writings.

>>17523677
>organic genre
Punk was created by Westwood and Maclaren, nothing organic about it.

>>17524850
LOL, ofc. people will say they are 'traditionalists' while believing in some paganism wacky meme shit. any justification for why you have to believe in some pagan nonsense to be a true 'traditionalist'? christianity not good enough for you?

>>17524850
Which evidence of the fact that he’s too widely read by people who haven’t got a clue and aren’t interested in putting in the effort to get one.

>>17524882
Polyamory is not marriage. Shit half of them think that cohabitation = marriage.

>>17524887
You're informed but still wrong. This entire thread has a warped perception of Tradition which has no spiritual basis, just 50s iconography. If you can't even register that much then we don't need to carry on.

>>17524878
I have no interest in the rationalizations of coomers. The only valid sex is within the confines of marriage and open to procreation. Everything else is mystical blabbering to rationalize sexual misbehavior.

>>17524887
Catholic Pagan just sounds like an oxymoron to me. If he's a weird kind of catholic that would be a sect of Catholicism not paganism.

>>17524930
I’m not disputing that. I’m disputing that particular meme not only because it’s a silly ad hominem but because it implies something which is wholly different than what you just said here and which is frankly, bullshit.

>>17524940
The irony is that he was really neither a Catholic nor a Pagan but something tangential to both. It’s difficult to describe what his beliefs actually were without going into a long diatribe but the best way to say it is I think that he appreciated certain aspects of Catholicism, particularly those more esoteric and early teachings that might be identified as running through the Ancient world into the Early church. As for his paganism, yes it’s sort of true that he was concerned with reviving a sort of paganism, but actually calling it paganism is a bit misleading and it was really much more philosophical than anything you might see from the Neopagans. Only neopagans could consider a guy who literally wrote a book called “Against the Neopagans” a forefather of neopaganism. I don’t think he was a Sufi although he almost certainly explored Sufism at one point. He spoke positively of Islam and Buddhism but confessed plainly that he belonged to neither. He flatly refused to engage with Orthodoxy pretty much at all.

>>17524940
That's because Anon is coping. Evola is pretty clear that the one true religion is imperial-solar-aryan-based-redpilled-crusader-neopaganism-polytheism. Christianity is the first, and one of the most heinous, Satanic Inversions of this religion. This religion is Tradition. All other religions contain tiny references to this religion, and the Traditionalist's goal (as Evola saw it) was to pick apart other religions to find these little references.

He would later regret Pagan Imperialism, a book he wrote earlier in life, not because of anything he said in it (imperial-solar-aryan-based-redpilled-crusader-neopaganism-polytheism just IS Tradition, after all) but because it was an outright brazen attack on the Catholic Church, which would then go on to act against him as he was a literal polytheistic sorcerer and black-magician trying to destroy Christianity and had just advertised this fact to the world. In particular, the Vatican kept him from worming his way deeper into Mussolini's Italy. Ironically, this probably saved his life when the Occupation Forces dragged him to court and determined that he was just some harmless whackadoo that had no real power.

He advocated that Europeans attend Catholic services to get their dose of Tradition, but Catholicism, like all Satanic Inversions, had nothing in it to offer besides Tradition anyways, so ignore the whole Messiah and meek inheriting the Earth and just relish in BASED priests babbling in strange tongues while hereditary nobility step on the peasantry. This is purely to get Tradition until someone comes along and revives imperial-solar-aryan-based-redpilled-crusader-neopaganism-polytheism.

>>17525090
>“Against the Neopagans”
This isn't a book, but rather a (bad) translation of an excerpt from a larger work Sintesi di dottrina della razza in which Evola criticizes the Nazi and Fascist positions on race. tl;dr they aren't racist enough. The "Neopaganism" he's talking about is, ironically, very Christian. He's criticizing people engaging in magic, Hermeticism, and Platonism rather than based solar aryan crusaderism. He also takes a big shit on Protestantism and the Vatican in this.

It also leaves out things that are related specifically to Italy (involving a large dose of criticism of Christianity in Italy) and things critical of German racial policy (which was too materialist and too Christian for Evola's liking).

>>17524869
That makes it more difficult then, if those who OP desires to be like are a product of a traditional, natural, society that is the antithesis of our current one

>>17525128
You’ve totally misunderstood these authors. The man wrote regular columns for the Catholic Theological Society of Rome. Your reading is just the typical /pol/ pilled analysis that seemingly can’t go any further than the most shallow misinterpretation of the text humanly possible. I find ironically, these readers often know very little about the religions they mention, such as Christianity and I suspect that’s the case here. You’ve never read his letters, you’ve not read his columns, you’ve not read his idealist books. You’ve read maybe a handful of books from an author who was extremely complex so I just don’t understand why you think you’re some sort of authority by delivering an analysis which honestly and truthfully is just dead wrong and misses the point entirely. If you think Julius Evola was some sort of Survive the Jive pagan then I just don’t know what to tell you other than you got filtered and you should read all his books again but try harder this time.

Here’s some help:
https://www.gornahoor.net/

>>17525164
>He's criticizing people engaging in magic, Hermeticism, and Platonism rather than based solar aryan crusaderism.
I’ve read his books in their original Italian. You are simply dead wrong and I’m wondering at this point if you’re intentionally giving a brainlet /pol/ pilled analysis to discredit the author or something.

The single biggest problem is all the people who read this authors and flatly do not understand them and don’t even try to.

>>17525187
Yes, yes, I'm sure the guy who talked about how Christianity was literally Satanic converted on his death bed to [insert whatever denomination you're LARPing as this week].

>gornahoor
It's ironic that you cite them as they're one of the biggest critics of the "NO REALLY GUYS EVOLA WAS REALLY ENDORSING [whatever Bergoglio is saying today] HE WAS SECRETLY CHRISTIAN!" position.

Start with Ride the Tiger.

>>17525193
>I’ve read his books in their original Italian
lmfao and my dad works for nintendo

>>17525193
Ironically, the whole
>evola was secretly catlick
thing you're doing is the standard /pol/ reading of him. This is why you need to read books, to avoid these sorts of mistakes that you're making.

>>17525201
>>17525208
> The ignorant are humble since they know that they do not know. The intelligent are humble because they understand how difficult it is to know something. But the half-smart are so absolutely certain about everything.

Good luck with your re-reading, /pol/. I would actually suggest you start with Theory and Phenomenology of the Absolute Individual and his essays on Carlo Michelstäedter and then move on to his essays for the Theological Society of Rome as well his letters which indicate clearly that he was still searching for his Tradition well into middle age, being himself, in fact, not a “pagan” nor a “neopagan”.

>>17525214
I never claimed he was a Catholic. In fact, I spelled it out clearly in plain text that he only appreciate aspects of Catholicism. See? This is actually the problem but it’s not clear to me if you won’t read and think or if you can’t read and think. Either way, why are you spamming me with replies?

who cares about some faggy italian, just give me three acres and a cow

>>17523838
>both parents work
>higher family income

>>17525187
>>17525201
You again? Do you work for that website or what? Evola wasn's a (neo)pagan, but neither was he a Catholic. His involvement with Catholic movements/writers/aesthetics was because that's what he was born into, and because it was the only (decayed) remnant of tradition close to him (remember, he spent most of his post-WW2 life in a single room in Rome). He admired some aspects of Catholicism, but he never converted and didn't call himself that.

>>17523619
I just wanna die, and I want every human being to die with me. Sentience was a mistake.

>>17525644
Meant >>17525193 >>17525231
not >>17525201

>>17525644
Did you quote the wrong person? Because that's literally what I was saying.

>>17525644
>Do you work for that website or what?
Probably not. If you google "evola against the neopagans" one of the first hits is a post from there shitting on it and the whole "evola was acskshyuyually catholic" thing.

>>17525644
>You again? Do you work for that website or what?
Take your meds. I’ve never shared that website on this board or anywhere else.
>>17525644
>He admired some aspects of Catholicism, but he never converted
He was born into it and received all the sacraments. Why would he “convert”? But to your basic point, yes, I indicated that already in plain text if you had actually taken the care to read it.
> didn't call himself that
Literally called himself a “Catholic Pagan” and there are posters on this board which would have you believe that’s an indication that he was a Pagan but somehow not a Catholic. Regardless, I already said above, again, in plain text, that he was truthfully neither a Catholic nor a Pagan if you had just simply read it. This is getting frustrating.

>>17525676
So did I. Just ignore them. This is a common problem with these authors and their “readers” which hang out on this site.

>>17523752
>What's up with modern Trads being obsessed with the aesthetics of transgression?
It's just an observation that their traditional preferences have become counter-culture. You're projecting.

>>17523645
That book is shit. 0.01 of population is high-tech, everybody else is in the fukken middle ages. Global Apartheid, no Race-mixing- basically everybody is racist but nobody wages wars because resources are not sparse when 99.99% is living in a hole in the ground.
This is literally one of the worst global orders ever. It describes an unstable equilibrium because the first nation going full high-tech will kick everybody elses' arses. Furthermore, you still need a tech-aware workforce, and these people will know the situation and revolt against the elites.

>>17525676
Yes, see >>17525656
>>17525703
>I’ve never shared that website on this board or anywhere else.
We've had this conversation before, buddy. If you're the the one who has supposedly read Evola in Italian and read all those rare articles no Anglophone has ever heard of at least. You keep sharing that website and then I call you out on it and you say "huh I've never shared it before" or "I just found that website".
>Why would he “convert”?
Because for a long time, he expressly didn't consider himself a Catholic. He didn't go back to Catholicism in his later years, he just learned to appreciate the aspects of it that were still traditional. He had a falling out with the pope, for fuck's sake.

>>17523752
They are LARPing Men-children

>>17525799
>We've had this conversation before, buddy.
No, we have not. You need to take your meds, my friend.
> If you're the the one who has supposedly read Evola in Italian and read all those rare articles no Anglophone has ever heard of at least.
Why do you just assume English is even my first language? Why do you assume there are not other bilingual readers of Julius Evola? Why do you assume English speakers have not read these books, even though they are available in English.
> You keep sharing that website and then I call you out on it and you say "huh I've never shared it before" or "I just found that website".
Nope. Sorry but this bogeyman caricature you have going of me is incorrect.
> Because for a long time, he expressly didn't consider himself a Catholic. He didn't go back to Catholicism in his later years, he just learned to appreciate the aspects of it that were still traditional. He had a falling out with the pope, for fuck's sake.
I agree totally. I’m simply pointing out that your notion of “conversion” makes no sense here.
Please tell me out of simple curiosity, what your background is. We’re you raised in a Protestant, Catholic, atheistic, etc. household?
For transparency I will tell you that as for myself, I was raised Roman Catholic but am not a Roman Catholic today.

>>17524877
This.

>>17523880
thought of this immediately. honestly op's pic feels like a parody made with this in mind

>>17523619
Who runs those types of twitter accounts?
Theyre kinda cringe
Sure I agree with them, but no need to be so sanctimonious about it

>>17523677
No, it was entirely LARP and most punk is dogshit
A lot of post-punk is good though, since they toned down the LARP and actually wanted to make music

>>17523752
Being left isn't edgy enough
90% of them grow out of it
>t. used to LARP as a conservacuck

>>17523880
How do you guys like someone that killed themself?

>>17523619
CS Lewis. Abolition of Man is an expert dismantling of academia's erosion of transcendental values.

>>17524176
>In an ideal world only one member of the family would have to work
In an ideal world no one would have to work. Your mind is perpetually stuck in the past.

If tradition is so great why did people move away from it

>>17524184
Aaand there you go, along with "jews controls everything" and "niggers are inherently violent and dumb", this is one of the axioms that needs to be true for right-wing ideology to work. Which it isn't, which is why it doesn't work and no one takes you seriously.

>>17526760
See axiom 2 of >>17526761
Of course, jews don't control everything and didn't drive white people away from tradition so the most likely explanation is that *gasp* society along with everything is in perpetual change and "tradition" is a pointless LARP.

>>17526761
Did you even read the post you're replying to lol? He didn't say anything that you just said he did

>>17526761
The problem here is that in a world of near constant “progress” a really large set of viewpoints get put aside as “right wing” and the inevitable result, especially in a time as terrible as ours, is quality control. You see, it’s easy to resign anything undesirable as “right wing” and thus associate anything “right wing” with it.

>>17526785
No, the jews and niggers part I added in my own. You must be an american because you have zero reading comprehension. Let me make it simpler for your McDonalds fried brain.
>axiom 1: women bad
>axiom 2: jews are behind everything
>axiom 3: non-whites bad
These are the three fundamental axioms right-wing ideology is based on and it's what eventually ever right-winger reveals to think whenever the discussion goes long enough. The problem is that the three of them are evidently false, which means the ideology is built on shaky or, more properly, non-existent ground.

>>17526811
What sort of evidence do you have that these 'fundamental axioms of right-wing thought'(lol but let's go with it) are evidently false?

>>17523619
reading bad it gives you lefty thoughts

>>17525774
Just make the tech priests the elite, and have them suppress heresy like the catholic church.
There you go, millenia of stability with the benefits of technology.

The root of all the west's problems is protestantism.

>>17524410
Bullshit. None of us have any real power. We’re not in the club, we don’t see an opportunity for success. We want to experience life, own our own homes, travel and have adventures, but no one can afford it. We’re all adrift in this political hurricane. We were sold a future that we're not getting because the boomers sold us out. The corporations run our lives and are destroying the planet. The left isn't in power, but the capitalists who are willing to do anything to maintain their stranglehold are.

>>17526811
There are right wingers in non-white countries as well. Refuted.

>>17527014
>The “right” is the same in every country
Want to know how I know you’re retarded?

In an age of the superficial, hollow, and meaningless, where people just seem to keep bouncing from one thing to the other without any real sense of belonging, I think there's still a desire for something sacred or something that provides community despite all the secular atheist liberal attitudes. Human beings need religion or nationalism to give them direction, pride, and meaning. We are much stronger as a society with a sense of structure and order.

The nihilism, consumerism, individualism, and hedonism that liberalism extols has brought nothing but despair and hopelessness for people. This generation has lost all faith. No faith in the system, in the country, or in themselves. It seems clear that the best course to remedy these problems are to embrace tradition, nationalism, conservatism, God, family, etc.

The current order is centered around neoliberalism, and it has failed us. We are against a corrupt establishment and institutions that don't care about the welfare of everyday people, and this system has made it clear that nationalism is its antithesis that it seeks to suppress at all costs. We do not have faith in the system anymore. Our world is unfair and we can only look out for ourselves, our people, and our nation, or they will eat us alive. To not be a right winger in this globalist age is ethnic and national suicide.

>>17527014
Specifically talking about this >>17523619 kind of right-wing

>>17523619
>THE INCELS ARE REVOLTING!
You said it, they stink on ice!

>>17524892
for many people it makes more sense to worship local gods or their ancestors' gods, rather than YHVH the god of the Israelites

but for me, it's Neoplatonic Christo-Paganism with the Greek gods as aspects of the One, this surely must be the ultimate western tradition

>>17523619
>1950s kitsch is "against the modern world
Come on now

>>17527089
>No faith in the system, in the country, or in themselves. It seems clear that the best course to remedy these problems are to embrace tradition, nationalism, conservatism, God, family, etc.
Yeah just turn yourself into a schizophrenic and embrace archaic values because..... just do it okay? God will just make bad things go away and and stuff
>ethnic
Fuck off stormnigger. We all see through your psyop.

The right wing preaches a message of hope. The left wing is defeatist and makes you feel powerless. The right wing encourages you to strive for greatness and believe in your own power, believe in a better world and higher ideal.

The fundamental question today I feel that needs to be asked is "Who are we supposed to be as people? Where are we going from here? ". We seem to have lost sight of that in the West. It feels as if Europeans are being stripped of our identity when bombarded with the constant BLM "white privilege" woke rhetoric and hyper individualism. The right at least offers an alternative to this, one that is not based on politics of resentment but of inspiration. The right presents a vision of the future where there is still a sense of hope that a better future is possible.

>>17527089
>Human beings need religion or nationalism to give them direction, pride, and meaning.
Just religion.

>>17527140
>one that is not based on politics of resentment
Lol

>>17524877
based

>>17527119
Do you feel fulfilled under the nihilist neoliberal paradigm?

>>17527168
No, but nationalism wouldn't fix it. It would just make you a slave to a dictator

>I'm a traditionalist
>Posts American consumerism

>>17527089
>Human beings need religion or nationalism to give them direction, pride, and meaning.
No we don't and the reason we are where we are is exactly because we realized both of them are lies. You can't just brainwash everyone into believing into Santa Claus for adults again because Jordan Peterson told you it brings order or some other vapid bullshit like that. There is no going back and LARPing and bringing God back from the dead certainly isn't the solution. In fact you're doing nothing at all, other than being annoying. Religion has maybe a century of being relevant left.

>>17527089
the solution is looking to the future, not the past.

>>17527195
No, you must divorce yourself from the enlightenment

>>17527168
Yeah, I'm doing pretty fine myself.

>>17523677
The more you look into things the more you start to notice some patterns. If you bother to look at the history of pop music you will realize how much resources are spent so YOU can see it even if they are on loss. Punk is the same, it's still primitive music and helped a lot to normalize depraved behavior.

>>17526726
Too bad this one was his only book where the main focus isn't christian apologism. He should have endeavored to publish more layman philosophy books, making aquinas/augustine accessible to high school kids.

>>17527185
And yet you are religious. How curious. You are quite intelligent.

>>17527212
So why don't you fuck off and become a monk or go live in the woods? Stop using your computer or mobile phone.

>>17527271
t. bugman

>>17527283
No answer, as expected. You have no real values.

>>17527257
Stop being triggered by people having fun

>>17527294
There's no such thing as fun. What you consider "fun" is just hedonism and consumerist decadence.

>>17527294
Yeah, must be why they usually end up killing themselves, regret doing drugs and or feel miserable and guilty and being rich is the only thing that stops them from offing themselves. It's a primitive behavior, they buy the industry culture offer but refuse to take the responsibility, though they have no choice in that and they suffer for it.

>>17527306
>There's no such thing as fun

>>17527195
so moving past atheism and materialism then

the beauty of the nationalist ideal is they strive to create a community of devoted spirits who embrace each other and share a bond with the land, their ancestors, each other, and their community. i dont see it as a negative but something beautiful

>>17527483
Romanticist drivel that amounts to deluding yourself with spooks.
>>17527329
People are free to make their own choices.

>>17527503
>Romanticist drivel that amounts to deluding yourself with spooks.
What you call "spooks" are the things that can justify continued human existence. Stormer was perhaps the single most incorrect human being to ever live.

>>17527503
No, they are not, LMAO. How do you even make a choice you fucking uneducated retard? Do you even comprehend the consequences behind your choices? If you have ever wore or use anything made in China you agree to not just slave labor but to kid slaves too. If you agree to it than you should expect the inevitable, people will want to enslave you too. And when many break the pact of "muh free choice" you will realize how fucked you're.

>embracing a rigid hierarchy that you can’t climb in any meaningful way except through some incredible stroke of luck
>the ultimate form of rebellion
Why do righttards always play themselves?

>>17527573
No, I'm pretty sure the sperg in OP's pic is rejecting Leftism.

>>17527306
>There's no such thing as fun
This one's definitely gonna get all the zoomers into religion!

>>17527573
> Dude, you have to subscribe to a revolutionary ideology opposed to any organic or natural hierarchy otherwise you’re just playing yourself

>>17527592
Even the most rigid Maoist politbureau has more sense of adaptability than the average /pol/tard who masturbates over ads from the 50s. Do you seriously think that people won’t rebel if you flat out told them there’s no way in hell they could ever change the system they live in, or even have any kind of meaningful social mobility in?

It’s like you enjoy being a cog in a machine. Are traditionalists actually secret communists?

>>17527601
>organic or natural hierarchy
Those are completely different from one another. Most organic hierarchies rise up for a reason, and allow change if necessary. Natural hierarchies is some Jordan Peterson bullshit used by conservafucks so that they can hold onto power

>>17527573
Absolute nonsense

>>17527626
You're quite literally making things up you fat retard

>>17527664
Maintaining the current structure for its own sake is quite literally the right wing creed

>>17527675
Tell me about all those traditionalist societies with meaningful social mobility

How is either counter cultural? Most Americans have families and like 70% of the country is Christian lol

I don't really care what leftists itt say, you have different standards for your friends compared with those for your enemies. They'll always hate those on the right wing

>>17523619
>revolt agaisnt the modern world!!!
>posts some random twitternigger with le based greek dude statue and a pic depicting american consumerism

based anti-tradlarper thread

>>17527626
The delusions of a Portland citizen ahhahaaha

>>17527694
>70% of the country is Christian lol
No it isn't. Saying you're a "christian" and believe in God doesn't make you a Christian.

>>17527503
Same energy as the elites give off every time immigration is criticised haha>>17527503

>>17527723
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It's funny seeing how deracinated American people are, all of these 'right wing' or 'nationalist' arguments are accepted in Europe lmao.
The state of some yanks makes me cringe. Especially regarding social politics

>>17527744
Not how that fallacy words you pseud.

>>17527642
Honestly, just lobotomize yourself. I specifically said OR because they are different things and you’re note about Petersonian whatever is just retarded nonsense.

fuck right wingers. anti intellectual bigots

>>17527681
Imagine being this politically illiterate.
Post lift stats

>>17527858
>he thinks intellectualism is good
The only good leftist was Pol Pot.

>>17527858
Why can I tell you've got an aids physique

>certain lifestyles become more accepted/less targeted than they were historically
>my way of life is being threatened! getting married and having kids is counter-cultural now!

wew

>>17526811
Hahahau yanks back it again. This surely must be a troll?

>>17527860
>>17527874
Typical meathead cretin. Do you lift to compensate for your small brain and penis?

>>17527860
>>17527874
faggot you would wanna see me shirtless

>>17527930
Hahaha aids physique. Get back to the treatment centre

>>17527858
before modernism, all intellectuality was religious and "right wing"

>>17527858
the intelligentsia isn't a nation's brains but it's shit
t. Lenin

>>17527948
Lifting is for vain homosexuals and overcompensating buffoons.

>>17527952
Hahahahahahahahaha I knew it. What a cope

>>17527964
you are cope

>>17523619
I'm pretty sure the cops are still beating up on the old counterculture..... call me when cops are breaking up marriages IDIOT

>>17527952
true
/fit/ is the gayest board on this site

>>17527756
60 years from now your post will be referenced by historians to show how far apart two humans can be conditioned

>>17527974
bait

>>17527973
How are you going to lead the bipoc class revolution with a physique like that?

>>17527903
Yes, accommodation of the other necessarily entails altering one's own life and any common space shared between the two. The left want to be collectivists and then pretend that all men are islands at the same time.

Reject modernity.
Embrace PEOPLE MOVER

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TGBGGF8

>>17528001
i am going to call the cops over you when racism will be illegal

>>17523619
Treating "traditionalism" like counterculture is peak post-modernity. If it's a subculture that you voluntarily associate with to be "revolt against the modern world" then it's not tradition, it's just a LARP.

>>17528027
>Racism
Haha

>>17527571
>no replies
As expected.

>>17528030
It's a reaction to modern day nihilism and depravity. We need to rediscover beauty in architecture, literature, music and art

>>17523871
>But every single one of my social interactions has been subverted by the same ideology.
Asperger's Syndrome isn't an ideology

Our civilization has already worked itself out to perfection. It's as good as it can possibly be right now. Anything else is cope. Tradlarpers are just upset they can't hack it in the most peaceful, prosperous, freest time in human history.

>>17525735
>You're projecting
This shit has literally no meaning any more

>>17524504
Perhaps he's replying to the OP image.

>>17528094
I believed this when I was 13. Is this really the state of this board now?

>>17528094
fuck off pinker

>>17528093
It's every single social interaction a person can have today carried the baggage of leftism and requires a set of leftist rituals to be completed in order avoid being shunned.

This thread goes to show how absolutely subverted the average American is. Soulless screeching against anyone who wants a life not devoid of any morality or family values.
Simultaneously celebrating your victory and yet denying anything has ever happened. It's quite laughable

>>17528094
>Our civilization has already worked itself out to perfection. It's as good as it can possibly be right now.
irate it ate

>>17528128
This is an absurd notion and proposition that is not rooted in reality. I have no idea what you could possibly be referring to because you are so detached from anything that makes sense.

>>17528150
We don't want to be slaves to some strongman or some sky daddy telling us what to do because we're scared of muh degeneracy. Get a life, incel faggot. Fuck your retarded ancient spooks like race or religion. That shit has been debunked and is used to control people.

>>17528156
He makes a point, no need to be a retard about it.

>>17528168
His "point" is asinine schizophrenic nonsense. It deserves to be mocked, ridiculed, and shunned.

>>17528164
le deboonker
in reality you are terrified of contradicting the systems of control even in thought lel

>>17528164
>some sky daddy telling us what to do because we're scared of muh degeneracy
I want sky daddy to lead me to transcendent states of being.

>>17528150
>muh morality
>muh family
faggot i just want to fuck

>>17528150
>Soulless screeching against anyone who wants a life not devoid of any morality or family values.
You can have that, but no one fucking cares. I don't think you understand this. No one likes people telling them how to live. No one likes evangelists. No one likes SJWs which is why your post-modern internet tradlarp psyop even came to be in the first place, GamerGate caused all of this but y'all revealed yourself to be no different in the end.

>>17528164
This is one of the most retarded posts I've seen on this site

>>17528171
It really isn’t. Every social interaction you can have today is mediated by rules which have been defined and are enforced by the heirs to left wing social movements. If you violate these rules you will be forcibly removed all possible social spaces. How is this hard to understand? Are you so autistic that you can’t discern the meaning of even the most Baltic social interactions you have on a daily basis?

>>17528185
Because you are a primitive savage driven by his base urges with no capacity for higher thought
>>17528196
The masses need someone to tell them how to live and they will follow them. Right now the liberal nihilism is sold to them and they eat it up, because they are cattle. Give them strong values and they will eat it up. They need direction, because they can't actually think for themselves, they just think they can.

>>17528212
You're not worthy of my time. I refuse to engage with these delusional ramblings or give your insanity any sort of courtesy of respect. You have not earned it.

>>17528164
The views of the rest of the world Vs a schizophrenic deboonker

>>17528221
This, if a K-pop group convinced all their young fans to dress modestly and aim for marriage they would genuinely do it

>>17528164
Yes, instead you want the black community to be appointed to a social HR board in charge of controlling the language you use, your economic mobility, the composition of your community, your interactions with others, etc. if bootlicking were a professional sport, you and your ilk would be champions.

>>17528221
fuck off, you have no right to tell people how to live

>>17528185
No wonder America is descending into third world status hahaha. What a mong

>>17528231
lmao what a faggot

Right wingers should be shot

>>17528258
did babby get a hurt feel from a mean word

>>17528212
Your point is nonsensical and you are a retarded pseud

>>17528212
He understands it subconsciously because he's a colossal pussy who is scared to even consider not following the rules you're talking about

>>17528221
I'm sure you, a random pseud on 4chan, are qualified to decide how the entirety of humanity should behave. And I'm sure you'd be the supreme dictator in your power fantasy as well, absolutely.

>>17528286
Pathetic samefagging. Jump off a cliff faggot

>>17528212
>I can't call black people niggers!!!! I'm oppressed by the evil lefists!!!!

scared lil nazis? cry bitchbois

>>17528231
I have stated my point in clear language more than once. You on the other hand cannot bring up single contradiction and you are unable to elaborate on your accusations. But you do not realize that whether intentional or not you are proving my point. By speaking out against against the absolute control the left has over social interactions, I've broken the rules they have set, and I’m response a person supportive of this domination has decided to label as insane I’m order to shun me from the discursive space we both currently occupy. This is why you are so adamant about your about dismissal of me.
By the way, I know you’re going to say something along the following lines:
> I’m not dismissing you because of what you claimed, but because you ARE crazy
If you don’t want to bother even substantiating your point, then you shouldn’t bother responding (my bet is that you don’t to save face).

>>17528308
>>17528296
>>17528313
Poor bait, or Reddit user

>>17528296
You literally have no beliefs that you wouldn't abandon if fat HR chicks told you to lel

>>17528212
As opposed to having them mediated by rules which have been defined and are enforced by the right wing totalitarian hellscape you suggest we have instead. You're all so disingenuous and transparent.

>>17528318
Your claims are indicative of schizophrenic delusions about "leftists" controlling people. Engaging with them is akin to engaging with Alex Jones arguing about DMT or aliens.

>>17528308
>I’m proud of having my language policed
How does the rubber taste on this season’s Jordan’s?

>>17528334
whining about it repeatedly is a much better strategy lmao gj

Most third world countries unironically have more respectable views that some of the y*nks here.
You can see the extremely developed state of decline you're currently at. It's laughable.

>>17528336
Not being able to insult people based on their skin colors which I won't anyway because I'm not a racist dickhead surely is preferable to being burned at a stake for claiming not to believe in God.

>>17528352
I'd argue that not clinging to irrational beliefs like God or nationalism is a sign of being advanced actually.

>>17528334
>believing that social etiquette exists and is a system of control is the same as believing in the machine elves.
Again, more blustering, no substantiation. You’re just kind of pathetic. And yes, that is exactly what I said and meant, before you claim it isn’t.

>>17528353
>im not a racist dickhead
no you're just a pussy kek

>>17528366
You have no point to substantiate. Your claiming "the left" controls people's social interaction. This is paranoid schizophrenic ramblings.

>>17528352
>Most third world countries unironically have more respectable views that some of the y*nks here.
Yes, most third world countries happen to be religious. It really makes you think.

>>17528353
>he thinks he’s noble for submitting to active language policing which is enforced by violence
I understand you’ve licked the shoes of every NBA player currently on a California team. Whose tasted the best?

>>17528382
I wouldn't know, how did your priest's dick taste?

>>17528374
They control you so well you are literally incapable of thinking a bunch of things and reactively behave like a little bitch footsoldier for them

>>17528374
Yes, because social taboos in today’s world are entirely dictated by the left and used to enforce a left hegemony over all social space. This should be obvious to anyone with eyes.

I thought this board was above r*ddit but clearly not. The cancer has been transplanted.
Don't forget to kneel next summer

>>17528378
>USA 53%
yet another argument in favor for the permanent ban on burger IPs

>>17528385
I’m not religious. I was just pointing out your submissive nature, and the manner in which you project it onto others. Now tell me, whose shoe tasted the best?

>>17528385
I'm kneeling guys! BLM acab! Don't forget to support bipoc guys!

>>17528378
>China, 3%
基于

Faggots itt

>>17528437
I think there’s a couple people here who think in talking points they learned on Twitter and aren’t capable of independent critical thought.

>>17528447
>>17528437
Yeah youre so independent clinging to ancient copes like nationalism and religion

>>17528385
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>>17528093
Reddit.

Edit: thanks for the gold!

>>17528455
>>17528447
Ahahahaha

>>17528455
Yes, in spite of all propaganda trying to tell me that the comfort of individual bodies is the highest good, I determined that the well-being of the body politic should be a greater priority. Independent thought was necessary to come to this conclusion.

>>17528455
>BLM, ACAB, THEY/THEM. RESIST!

>>17528480
My post was a knock against the lefties in this thread.

>>17523619
>1950s
>traditional

If it's capitalism, it's not traditional. Kings and peasants is traditional, feudalism which is extended tribalism, this is how god wanted us to live.

Leftists acting smug when every aspect as social/cultural politics has been in their favour since the 60s

>>17523838
>and less children, which are very expensive
what kiddo most people raise children on less than $2 a day in previous centuries

>>17528972
>Not a single book suggestion past the first 10 posts, just derailment and screeching by trannies

>>17523619
NT
Bossuet
Joseph De Maistre
Peguy
Drumont

>>17528059
Maybe you do. Not everyone is an emasculated baseddev who wasted the best years of their life in front of a screen though.