/lit/ - Literature

>>17609580
How's not having sex working out for you?

>>17609580
He's not wrong per say, but why do you take that shit as a universal? Not even psychologists take that as a universal but more as a rule of thumb. Stop being retarded

>>17609580
How do they explain monks, nuns, priests etc?

>>17609602
clearly mentally ill

>>17609606
No, the reality is people who treat sex as a recreational activity and for fun are the mentally ill ones. Society is largely defined by mental illness. It's also one reason why the modern West is collapsing.

>>17609602
God has fucked them in the head

>>17609613
Holy cope

>Born in 1908 and raised in Brooklyn, New York, Maslow was the oldest of seven children. His parents were first-generation Jewish immigrants from Kyiv, then part of the Russian Empire (now Ukraine), who fled from Czarist persecution in the early 20th century.

>>17609618
he's right you dirty cumbrain

>>17609623
In case you didn't know, celibacy is forbidden in the Talmud.

>>17609588
Ouchhh
>>17609580
Try not supplementing sex by wanking and tell us how it goes after 3 months.
>>17609602
The same way they explain people who date physical abusers. You can (with great effort) outweigh the lower elements with the higher ones. Case in points: going to war for your country, working a 24 hour shift, rejecting achievements on moral principles...

>>17609623
>you need sex goy

I think the chart is pretty accurate as is in my experience, but they don't even use this one anymore, they removed sex from it at the bottom years ago.

But yeah I think its correct though my lack of sex is what prevented me from moving higher

>>17609580
Reminder that the reason you cant read books is not because you have ”ADHD”, its because you havent had sex with a cute girl

>>17609667
projecting retard

>>17609623
>having sex is a jewish psyop
have sex and take your meds

>>17609678
>having sex is a jewish psyop
Yes.
>have sex
No.

>>17609678
>he doesn’t know about semen retention
This is why you are goy cattle

>>17609580
i know i'm just so broke and out of shape which is feeding back into the self-loathing feedback loop

>>17609639
>celibacy is forbidden
breeders
>>17609688
get help

>>17609697
>get help
Not an argument

you niggas act like you don’t have sex because youre above it but it’s actually because you are ugly anti social freaks

>>17609613
>the west is collapsing
yet it's the islamic world that is littered with failed states and east asia that is filled with inhumane working and living conditions. if the west is "collapsing" idk what you think is happening in the rest of the world

>>17609706
>you are ugly anti social freaks
projection. i reject most girls who hit on me
>youre above it
yes.

>>17609697
>breeders
The Talmud views celibacy as an unforgivably selfish act. Similarly, masturbation and 'pulling out' are also forbidden for the same reason. It is seen as an act in which you are cheating life out of its chance to grow and experience the love and joy of life and God.

>>17609580

If you're taking this in a societal kind of way, then yes. Fun fact, if nobody has sex, at all, then society will collapse in a generation. Humans are designed to eat, fuck, consume and shit. Those are our prime directives right there. That's why it's right there at the bottom.

>>17609691
it's funny how how it put self-esteem and confidence above sex and intimacy but if you ask any "just bee urself" or "ur not entitled to sex" types they will tell you that you need confidence first, kind of a catch-22 if you follow that chart

>>17609718
They're collapsing for different reasons. The West is collapsing largely because of libertinism.

>>17609588
Well, I'm still alive and in good health. I should be dead a long time ago according to the pic.
It's either fucking retarded or straight malignant to state that sexual activity is as important as to eat, drink, sleep, piss, shit and all the other things that are literally necessary in order to survive wtf.
This is clownery, do psychology students really study this garbage lol?

>>17609580
I only care for the top and the only "need" below it I meet is food, sleep, health and self-respect.

>>17609688
based

>>17609706
Any mouthbreather can fuck some fat chick with self-esteem issues or a drunk one at a party. It's just not a big deal and you'll learn this when you get older.

>>17609732
>sex=procreation
retard.
The contemporary view on sex in the west is totally commodified and completely detached from the concept of procreation, which is almost viewed as an undesiderable side effect of it.

>>17609688
Unathomly based

>>17609580
Replace sex with masturbation, it's the same thing for you. It's obviously not sexual intimacy you're talking about, you wouldn't get that even if you had sex. Masturbation is a replacement for sex, if you fap you're a dumbass liar that's pretending to be smart.

>>17609648
>The same way they explain people who date physical abusers.
Brainlet take. Horrible analogy since women are sexually attracted to cruel men instinctively. That’s the exact opposite of religious asceticism, which is the struggle *against* instinctive drives.

>>17609948
you still don't need to masturbate to survive.

>>17609706
Go back

>>17609956
No shit you don't, but your body still cooms. People bringing up monks are retarded too, they still coom even if not voluntarily, the body is built to coom and it will coom whether you like it or not.

>>17609580
Sex should be a human right.

>>17609951
>brainlet take
>mistakes correlation with causation
>in an incel take
Believe it or not, women are sexually attracted to confidence. You can fake it through cruelty to some degree, and I'm sure you may have gotten yourself a submissive teenage girl from an abusive household that way, but your theory on what women want doesn't at all change the facts I presented. The upper levels outweigh the lower ones.

>>17609613
based

browsing 4chan should have given you more than enough information on what a lack of intimacy does to the average human mind to help you conclude that this is indeed true

>inb4 someone tries to compare a devout monk to an average 4chan incel

>>17609977
>but your body still cooms
maybe when you're like 13yo and completely oblitarated by hormones, but after that first wave it's much more a social construct: who has more sex wins.

>>17609977
>People bringing up monks are retarded too, they still coom even if not voluntarily,
>if you don’t fap or have sex you will necessarily coom in your sleep bro!
False. This is a myth.
The body either reabsorbs unused seminal fluid or it releases it gradually and slowly during urination.
>that’s still cooming!
This is not an orgasm.
t. Haven’t coomed for almost an entire year

>>17610035
>t. Haven’t coomed for almost an entire year
Damn! How you feeling? Genuinely interested, did nofap for 90 days and felt great, but got laid here and there...

>>17610020
shouldn't you be having sex?

>>17609999
checked and based by saying based to that other anon
>>17610020
the point is that incels are still obsessed with sex, by the lack of it, to the point some of them might grab a gun and go for a killing spree

>>17610048
>some of them might grab a gun and go for a killing spree
Based incel population control

>>17609580

It's true and the average 4chan user is the proof of how low a man who can't get sex from desirable women can stoop

>>17610067
Some quotes from Kodo Sawaki:

>"Take a look sometime at the face of a dog who’s just had sex. He just stares into space with strangely empty eyes. It’s exactly the same with people – in the beginning they work themselves up into a frenzy, and in the end there’s nothing at all."

>"Losing is satori. Winning is illusion. Not coveting a single thing is the greatest gift you can give to the universe. "

>>17610083
and you're the exception to the rule, right?

>>17610088
I'm not the exception and I accept my situation instead of coping and bringing up monks and shit

>>17610084
The expense of spirit in a waste of shame
Is lust in action; and till action, lust
Is perjur’d, murderous, bloody, full of blame,
Savage, extreme, rude, cruel, not to trust;
Enjoy’d no sooner but despised straight;
Past reason hunted; and no sooner had,
Past reason hated, as a swallow’d bait,
On purpose laid to make the taker mad:
Mad in pursuit, and in possession so;
Had, having, and in quest to have, extreme;
A bliss in proof, and prov’d, a very woe;
Before, a joy propos’d; behind, a dream.
All this the world well knows; yet none knows well
To shun the heaven that leads men to this hell.

>>17609991
>Believe it or not, women are sexually attracted to confidence
They are, but they are particularly sexually attracted to men who are arrogantly cruel, aka bullies/assholes. This is completely obvious to anyone not coping.
>”I am afraid that woman appreciate cruelty, downright cruelty, more than anything else. They have wonderfully primitive instincts. We have emancipated them, but they remain slaves looking for their masters, all the same. They love being dominated.”
— Oscar Wilde
The reason I said it’s a horrible analogy is that women getting attached to their abusive partners is a case of passion (instinct) overtaking reason. Religious asceticism or any of the examples you have given of self-sacrifice/self-denial for a greater good, are the EXACT opposite. It’s reason (purpose) dominating passion.

>>17609594
>per say

>>17609580
its because they are stuck living in the lower chakras. they cannot conceive of the higher planes.

>>17609580
idk maslow isn't exactly seen as a leader in psychology anymore

>>17609580
How come some prominent psychologist scribbles down some garbage diagram like OP's and it's like a dogma for the entire psychological community?
>psychologyfags will defend this

>>17610035
I call bullshit, I've been getting morning wood and nocturnal emissions all the time after no fapping

>>17610041
It’s not just the physical benefits (which there are —I am fitter than ever and people have pointed it out) but also the psychological ones. I feel free from the desire to coom. It’s like a permanent post-nut clarity. I don’t think with my dick anymore.
Feels great to be free from that constant carrot on a stick, ngl.

>>17610102
>particularly sexually attracted to men who are arrogantly cruel
Not according to evolutionary biology, seeing as cruelty clearly wasn't the best predictor of reproduction (and still isn't). Not according to contemporary research, seeing as confidence correlates better than any cruelty measures. Again, I'm sure you or a pickup artist you respect may have scored a girl with daddy issues by being cruel, but it's far from a general fact. It's a correlation underpinned by confidence and power. There is no "passion for abuse".
>A homosexual who was forced to live with a woman didn't feel very fond of women
Bro...

>>17609729
that comes from the onanism scene in the bible, which means it should apply to christians too, but they instead got sidetracked by augustine's lame ascetic manachaean shit. some christian's bitch that paul steered christianity off track, but paul has a hell of lot more legitimacy than all the utter bullshit that came from augistine. augustine and aristotle, the two midwits that ruined christianity, but aristotle is story for another thread.

>>17609648
>try not supplementing sex by wanking and tell us how it goes after 3 months
dude, I haven't fapped ONCE since 2019 and I've been doing better than ever, you're mentally ill. take your meds.

>>17610102
> I am afraid that woman appreciate cruelty, downright cruelty, more than anything else
based womanbrain

>>17609580
>>17609602
The question is: how do they explain that the state doesn't cover this BASIC NEED?

>>17609678
It literally is Pythagoras was a volcel

>>17609613
The west is literally still the best place to live in the world, why do you think so many immigrants come here. People hurting your feelings by having sex isn't the same as society collapsing.

>lack of prejudice
>acceptance of facts
Does not compute

>>17610199
The west is the best place to live now because it also ruined the other places

I'm starting to think you guys are not only afraid of women, but of your own shadow.

>>17610199
im sorry, what? the population collapsing from their self destructive lifestyles to the point where the elites need to use immigration to prop up their own power and wealth is indeed a sign that society is collapsing

>>17610222
I'm a virgin incel tranny. What do you want from me?
Sex isn't a basic need or I'd be dead.

>>17610222
Woah deep

>>17610223
>population not expanding at an unsustainable and self-impoverish pace mean it's collapsing
the chinese, who i'm sure you think are some kind of studs, had a state mandated maximum of one child per couple because having your population blow up is actually toxic af

>>17610235
It's not deep at all, you guys are just cowards hiding away in your rooms.

>>17610177
>I've been getting morning wood
That’s good. Me too.
>nocturnal emissions
I also got them at the beginning. I’ve been no fapping since the beginning of 2019 and only stopped getting night cooms last year. Give it a time. The brain takes a while to “rewire” and adapt after a lifetime of porn and fapping.
Also I asked God to make them stop, and they did, so try that.

>>17609580
Have sex

>>17610181
They're attracted to looks, period

That and not being autistic helps

>>17610247
It doesn’t take courage to be a normalfag

>>17610247
Women don't like us. That's why we hide.

>>17610223
>guy with no education, no job, no wife, and no kids who posts on 4chan all day and probably addicted to an array of video games and anime judges other people's lifestyles to be self destructive

wow this site is not a good use of time. anyone who made it past sophomore year in college has been exposed to maslow's hierarchy, noted it, wrote an essay on it, picked the right multiple choices about it on the midterm, ok done, time to move on

>>17610240
>toxic af
who the fuck talks like this lol? are you a 20 something year old woman on twitter?

>>17610240
>is actually toxic af
hang yourself faggot

>>17610247
I'm not hiding, I have unironic autism, every attempt to socialize ends up in utter failure and suffering for me

>>17610267
glad to see my point is infallible enough that you had no choice but to strawman, not even gonna read the rest of the post lol

>>17610268
>couldn't find a typo so instead i will attempt to evade your point by focusing on your use of internet slang on the internet

weak

Sex is a trap. It doesn't build up to anything after a certain point and it takes the place of deeper intimacy through other romantic acts, like cuddiling and not too erotic kissing.

>>17610181
Women are turned on by domination. It’s a fact.
Wilde could see this fact plainly precisely because he was a faggot. He wasn’t blinded by the dick.
Want a woman saying it? Here you go:
>"I require only three things of a man. He must be handsome, ruthless, and stupid."
Dorothy Parker

>>17610278
how many kids do you have? other people are at least having sex and forming relationships which may lead to children one day, while you, well, do you what you do

>>17610282
do you actually expect me to write an essay on how a population literally destroying its self is a sign that a population is collapsing?

>>17610294
Alright, let's not call it confidence, but domination. It's still a hell of a reach to relate domination to physical abuse. It's like saying women like anal so they're naturally attracted to butt rapists... it's an intersection of two different worlds and so are the girls that are into that.

>>17609580
>sex is a basic need but also women don’t owe you anything INCEL
this is your brain on feminism.

Leave psychology to me

>>17610295
why would you respond to my post calling out your retarded strawman argument with another retarded strawman argument lol? also trying to argue that I'm a part of the problem is not a very scathing deconstruction of the idea that there is indeed a problem

>>17610305
the european and north american populations are not collapsing

>>17610327
first your position was that "the west is collapsing" then when that was obviously wrong you retreated to "the population is collapsing" but that isn't supported either since both america and europe have above replacement level birth rates, so what will you retreat to now?

>>17610084
> >"Take a look sometime at the face of a dog who’s just had sex. He just stares into space with strangely empty eyes. It’s exactly the same with people – in the beginning they work themselves up into a frenzy, and in the end there’s nothing at all."
That’s exactly what it is. A carrot on a stick is all it is. Our coombrains build it up to be the end-all and then you get it and you coom and bam —it’s over. Post-nut clarity. This obsessive desire for sex we have is nothing but a spook.

Leave sex to me.

>>17610328
wow yea dude the birth rates are on average barely above replacement rates in nations where half of the children being born are not native Europeans but thats "not collapsing" lol, did you actually think you were making a good point with this post?

What is some anti-sex literature?

>>17609580
>morality not at the absolute foundation
this is your brain on Judaic "psychology"

>>17610365
Mein kampf

>>17610365
The Gospels.

>>17610319
Her animal brain cannot distinguish it. Women can and do cum from rape, even when it genuinely traumatizes them for life. Sort of same case with abuse. It is bad for her, she knows it, but her animal brain just says “strong mean man gud” so she becomes attached to him.

>>17610328
not him but very low birth rates, a huge number of incels, polygamy, high levels of sexual disphoria, high levels of depression and suicide, no sense of community, high immigration from opposite cultures etc. seems like collapsing to me.

>>17610339
>"the west is collapsing" then when that was obviously wrong you retreated to "the population is collapsing"
how are these two things different? do you think "the west" is nothing but a collection of soulless government organizations and not the actual people themselves?
>america and europe have above replacement level birth rates
just barely above lol, the average european union fertility rate is 1.5, and in major countries like germany half of the births are from non europeans, how did you type out this entire post without figuring these little factoids out first?

i didn't retreat anywhere and I dont plan on starting now

>>17610383
Where do you get this from, man?

>>17610404
Reality

>>17610259
You hide. So women don’t like you.

>>17610404
Literally women, try talking to one. They've all been raped and they all loved it and hate themselves for loving it. Everyone of them

>>17610365
the hindus go into it

>>17610429
Yeah and look at the state of them.

>>17610410
No it doesn't work like that

How do I not be a misanthrope

>>17610416
>They've all been raped and they all loved it
How many did you ask? Because it sounds to me like you didn't ask a single one and just went full "nice guys finish last, assholes get the chicks".

Fuck incels, and fuck you ex incel cumbrains who get hung up on achieving basic function. Women are dumb.

>>17609588
Kek OP BTFO

>>17610474
It's not a basic function though?

>>17609613
Meds. Now.

>>17610440
>smug face
The Hindus are literally more Western than Christian Europeans. Your literal spiritual brothers are treacherous Levantines, which that disgusting Jew was. At least Hinduism has white origin with the Sintashta, cunt.

>>17610469
I've asked them all. The first one I ever asked was your mom.

I have 30k in stocks and crypto which puts me safely above 80% of white males and females my age worldwide.
But I cannot achieve sex.
Why is making more money than the average person easy but fulfilling a so called basic need isn't?

>>17610502
I am far more successful in life than you. You go get disemboweled by a rabid pack of niggers, you cunt. Also, meds cause more problems than good. Go get your shit skull crushed in as brain matter splatters everywhere. You stupid smug bastard. Take a knife to your throat, motherfucker.

>>17610520

>>17609580
No this entire thread basically proved him right

>>17610532
Your society/culture is collapsing. I don't give a shit though. I don't think with my dick. I think it's good that people like you will suffer from upcoming wave of automation. I feel more empathy towards deep learning models, which will be supplanted by memristors in the future, than you. I am angry, I am stressed, for reasons you cannot comprehend. I would gladly join the ranks of the black nobility to gouge out your fucking eyes, and from the abyss in the holes of your skull, you will finally see the truth.

>>17610502
Suicide. Now.

>>17610469
The trick with women is to pretend being an asshole and be mean to her while secretly holding noble intentions of forming a big happy family with a dog and a white picket fence. But shh, don’t let her know...

>>17610495
Casual sex isn't. Having had romantic experience is

>>17610555
>omg ppl need to have mooooore kids!
>i don't think with my dick! smug dot jaypeg

lol you are quite a slug

>>17609580
Just like food, how much and of what kind you need depends on your body. Obviously since you're part of the species you're going to largely share the needs that are found across the species, but you may have some particular requirements / needs / allergies and so on. Some people probably have a weaker libido than others, some people are probably more content with masturbating than others, but overall everyone with functioning sexual organs will need some kind of sexual relief on occasion. Note that repressing the fuck out of yourself isn't the same as overcoming yourself, it just means that you get your sexual relief from non-sexual means, like beating your wife with a belt or berating yourself in the mirror every morning.

>>17610575
>you are quite a slug
I was thinking about reading this book recently:
https://www.amazon.com/Sound-Wild-Snail-Eating/dp/161620642X/

>>17610570
Talking to people on discord is a romantic experience

>>17609613
>people who have fun are mentally ill >:(
The fuck is wrong with you?

>>17609613
>West is collapsing.
okay incel

>>17610620
>people who have fun are mentally ill
Yes.

>>17609588
Greta bro I come on this anonymous literature forum on an anime site and tell people that only cumbrains need sex.

>>17610620
It's simple. People should have fun only the way I deem is right. You disagree, you experience scaphism, simple enough. I put up with you, not out of a sense of humanity I see in your wretched self, but simply due to law and self-preservation. Lévinas' face-to-face does not apply to me.
Drinking tea and eating exquisite confectioneries in a nice resplendent garden while playing Wingspan and listening to the birds is much more preferable than sex for recreational reasons. You disagree? I will decorate my room with your carcass then. You make a crass sex joke and act like a brute? Skull crushed in and organs sold in the black market.
You waste time obsessing with sex and "muh dick"? Not spending time wisely reading enriching works or learning a craft or skillset in demand? It's blood eagle for you then. Your miserable and wasteful existence will be put out then.
I deserve to be the absolute monarch. Your opinion means absolutely nothing to someone with a mind as luminous myself. I would make you grovel before my feet. I would shove your face into the dirt and force you to eat it.
There are higher-ideals, higher virtues. Those who disagree will perish. Eat shit.

>>17610600
No
>>17610620
Treating something with potential to make people as fun is obviousky wrong

>>17609588
I swore off it after fucking a girl who wore this top. much better off actually.

>>17610640
Have fun with your used up whores from niggers. Go and joke about "black dicks" some more.

>>17610666
>digits
Yes sir

>>17610670
>No
Hey you can have a romantic experience on discord you shitter.

>>17610672
okay incel.

I'm getting too old for this board

>>17609580
>>17609678
>>17610502

>A time is coming when people will go mad, and when they meet someone who is not mad, they will turn to him and say, “you are out of your mind,” just because he is not like them.

St. Anthony the Abbot

>>17610693
omg what a coping incel lmaooo what a loser like what does that even mean? lol

>>17610680
>incel incel incel
rent free schizo

>>17610715
You are seething right now. I can feel it. Deep down you know very well that you are a fucking loser and you are using all those nationalist bullshit to cope with your virginity. It must be really sad being you. LEL

>>17610772
you know nothing about me you creepy projecting faggot. kys now

>>17609588
it's working out better than the time I tried not to excrete for several years

>>17610772
>You are seething right now. I can feel it.
meds now

>>17610772
>You are seething right now. I can feel it.