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I am a Guenon reader and I always thought that he was some kind of a deviant(you already know the scandals around him), but I recently read him and holy shit, his books are actually really good. Can't say that he is better than Guenon but for sure he is an interesting author, people should read his books before judging him. It is sad that people like Schuon and Guenon became memes on 4chan.

>> No.17615994

>>17615950
Schuon is unironically one of the worst traditionalists, read Algis Uždavinys, Wolfgang Smith, or Mircea Eliade. If you're interested in Schuon for his books on Islam specifically, read Reza Shah-Kazemi or Seyyed Hossein Nasr. There is no reason to read Schuon.

>> No.17616049

>>17615994
Not OP but why do you think Schuon is the worst one? Another anon described Schuon's traditionalism to me as the "path of devotion". Seemed pretty comfy.

>> No.17616085

>>17616049
He has no glaring features that stick out as being bad per se, he's just the most mediocre of the bunch, and he has nothing to offer that the other writers don't offer in better form.

>> No.17616098

>>17616085
Oh and he has some retarded takes on neo-classical art

>> No.17616107

>>17616098
wdym

>> No.17616154

>>17616107
He identifies neo-classical aesthetics with a loss of a sense of objective beauty, and tries to say it "fulfils the needs of the masses".

>> No.17616236

>>17616154
Guenon also disliked it, like almost everything that is a result of the renaissance.

>> No.17616344

>>17616236
Yeah but Guenon is interesting enough for him to get a pass, like I said Schuon doesn't have any glaring faults, but his mediocrity makes me notice the dumb shit he says more often.

>> No.17616361

What does /lit/ think about rudolf Steiner?

>> No.17616386

>>17616361
>rudolf Steiner
Of the 18th century European philosophers named Rudolf I prefer Rudolf Otto.

>> No.17616476

>>17615950
literally hosted kiddy pedo orgies

>> No.17616483

>>17615950
Agreed, he doesn't do anything that Guenon didn't do (except for his writings on Native Americans which I really like) but he shouldn't be dismissed.
>>17616085
His prose is the best out of all the traditionalists.
>>17615994
Uzdavinys and Eliade are great but they're only marginally traditionalists. No reason to not read Schuon by the way.

>> No.17616534

>>17615950
you know why these guys all become mudslimes and larppagans?
because actually committing to changing their lives scares the shit out of them.

>> No.17616554

>>17616534
You can't post here if you're retarded

>> No.17616581

>>17616554
so what are you doing in here, mouthbreater.
you Sufi commune will be swiftly depopulated by jihadists/actual Muslims anyway.
See how quickly your Sufi friends will sell you out to be left alone then.
I can only imagine how helpful the little dance you people do to signal to the desert demons that your boypussy is ready while Jamal The Bulldozer of Cairo (with a belly and a dick to match his nickname) makes you roleplay Hogg for a few months before killing you.

>> No.17616587

>>17616581
You can't post here if you're retarded

>> No.17616605

>>17616587
and then after you die, Jesus tells you that he doesn't know you and you go to hell for a round two that will last forever. Absolutely based.
Nothing worse than a Sufi, I'd litteraly invite a jihadi home and let him help himself of my daughter than tollerating demon worshippers in my country, KEK.

>> No.17616611

>>17616476
Wtf? Explain and provide citation.

>> No.17616620

>>17615950
>>17616611
>some kind of a deviant(you already know the scandals around him)
I live in bloomington, and this man raped kids. It's common knowledge here and you would definitely get your ass kicked if you mentioned his name (this actually almost happened to me). The university also hosted one of the founders of eugenics and its sexual studies institute has a recorded history of simulating sex acts on infants. Fuck schuon and fuck the moloch worshipping nephilim hellspawn that run the university.

>> No.17616640

>>17616605
Okay retard

>> No.17616668

>>17616620
>>some kind of a deviant(you already know the scandals around him)
No i don't which is why i'm asking you to explain. How old were the victims?

>> No.17616802

>>17616668
I don't know the specifics, but they were young kids (probably elementary-middleschool) even if the allegations were "false" he had to leave because the city was going to lynch him (not joking about this, we have the largest active kkk branch right next door in martinsville) and so he left. The thing is, when you're a nudist hebophile in a college town, you could probably get away with it unless someone speaks up. Multiple of his "followers" spoke up because their kids got raped by him and told everyone about the dances and orgies he hosted. He's guilty as hell, and if he were alive and came back here they wouldn't find his body. I doubt any students give a fuck but its common knowledge amongst the older people here and it's fresh enough that when I mentioned him once I got insanely nasty stares and an interrogation (I did not know this information at the time).

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>>17616802
They want to lynch him because they're faggots who are jealous of the fact he got to bang prime pussy while they're stuck with their old hags.

>> No.17616899

>>17615994
>Wolfgang Smith
Geocentrist
>Mircea Eliade
Now we're talkin

>> No.17616910

>>17616620
>>17616668
He didn't fucked anyone, according to an ex follower, there was a native american ritual which involved nudity and some 14 years old girls participated in it but there was no sex or anything like that.

>> No.17616925

>>17616802
Which kids did he raped? Show sources.

>> No.17617030

>>17616910
>>17616925
Firstly, when you used the english language, you are correctly using -ed as past tense. However, you don't need to use -ed when you already place the situation in the past (did/didn't). So, it's not "he didn't fucked" and "did he raped", but rather "he didn't fuck" and "did he rape".
Secondly, this is very much a local thing. I bet you could probably find some court cases if you really tried.
>there was a native american ritual which involved nudity and some 14 years old girls participated
Ah yes, you mean 14 year old girls were undressed and then prancing around in his room with him. This wasn't a singular incident, nor was it just his dances. This was secret, repeated, and from the eyes of his followers and public onlookers totally rape. It doesn't matter if he "didn't fucked anyone" in this part of the country hebephiles get lynched, and he definitely was a massive fraud that used notoriety to get children naked.

>> No.17617039

>>17617030
So basically
>trust me bro
No thanks

>> No.17617072

>>17617039
If you look at the city's legal database you'll find the allegations. I'm not going to do that legwork because I live here and everyone knows about it.

>> No.17617094

>>17617072
Sure buddy

>> No.17617129

>>17617094
>"that Frithjof Schuon... did perform fondling or touching [on three girls] 15 years of age, 14 years of age and 13 years of age, respectively, with the intent to arouse or satisfy sexual desires of Frithjof Schuon, in violation of I.C. 35-42 43. [And that] said persons were compelled to submit to touching by force or imminent threat of force, to wit: by undue cult influences and cult pressures, in violation of 35-42-4-8."
>"We lied in the hearing about polygamy and broke many legal rules to protect Mr. Schuon. Our lawyers cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars and we lied to them to... I had been told to lie as we all had".
http://www.naturesrights.com/knowledge%20power%20book/frithjof_schuon.asp
took me two seconds, it was literally the first search result

>> No.17617142

>>17617030
First of all, if you are better than me at english that doesn't make you right.
Secondly, you weren't even able to point out false accusations and btw there are some(idk if there are any on this particular subject), his ex followers which turned against him had a very dubious reputation, one of them still has a blog and he became a leftist atheist(accusing Guenon and Schuon of spiritual fascism, pathetic).

>> No.17617146

>>17617129
Sounds like slander to me

>> No.17617290

>>17617129
the charges were dropped, there was never enough evidence to get a court case