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I like the one where Odysseus and Diomedes go on a night raid.

>> No.17617398

>>17617389
The one where Aphrodite and Ares go whine to Zeus and he tells them to shut the fuck up.

>> No.17617421

>>17617389
The one where Zeus and Hera have divine sex, I masturbated to it.

>> No.17617456

>>17617421
Yeah that was pretty hot. Hera the MILF godess

>> No.17617470

>>17617389
There's a lot of good ones, but probably the one where Agamemnon sends Odysseus, Ajax, and Phoenix to try to convince Achilles to return to battle or the one where Hector sees his wife and son for the last time

>> No.17617627

Book 2, Catalogue of Ships.

>> No.17618096

>>17617389
Bros, what Iliad translation should I get?

>> No.17618110

>>17617421
Extremely based

>> No.17618140

>>17617389
The one where Patroclus went apeshit

>> No.17618199

>>17618096
p-pls respond
I was gonna make a thread to ask, but I saw this thread was already going :' )

>> No.17618209

>>17618199
Fagles or Lattimore. Avoid Pope, too divergent. Avoid Emily, for obvious reasons.

>> No.17618231

>>17618199
Just buy a legitimate one on Amazon. Don't be like me and buy a scanned translation of the Iliad & Odyssey for $7 that is riddled with typos.

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>>17618209
>>17618231
cheers

>> No.17618288

>>17617389
The part where they count every single ship....not but for real I liked the part where Ajax got shit shoved down his throat I actually LOL'd

>> No.17618302

>>17618096
Get Fagles

>> No.17618324

The one where achillies goes in the fight and scares the troians just by appearing half naked, and also when he angers the salamander

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>>17618302
Indeed I did, thanks for the confidence I got the right kind. Wanting some Hellenic hero motivation for the gym in preparation for spring and summer coming up.

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>>17618096
Fagles, Fitz, Lattimore. Your choice. Look up a comparison of the first verse of the first book of each and decide which reads most comfortably to you.

>> No.17618366

>>17617398
>The one where Aphrodite and Ares go whine to Zeus and he tells them to shut the fuck up.
The scene in which Athena and Hera mock Aphrodite is the exact moment the whole idea of reading the Greeks clicked for me.

>> No.17618388

>>17618096
Apparently the Alexander Pope is the /lit/ choice, but I could have been shilled.

>> No.17618409

>>17618288
I like the part where Ajax rapes Cassandra in the temple of Athena, truly based

>> No.17618416

>>17617470
Yeah man, Hector saying goodbye to his family actually got under my skin. After like 300 pages of blood and glory to have that low key moment of purity was really unexpected. Makes the stakes feel more real, shows how tragic the whole story really is.

>> No.17620018

>>17618416
Yeah it's a really touching moment. What really got to me was him aknowledging to his wife that he's probably not coming back. Then he hopes that in the future people will say his son is a better than him.

>> No.17620406

>>17618388
its a really hard read if you're not versed in poetry and or what ever style that is, although it is /lit/ i'm too much of a pleb for that.

>> No.17620505

>>17618199
Lattimore will change your life, I can promise you that.

>> No.17620513

The one where Athena fucks up Ares and he screams

>> No.17620688

>>17620513
tfw no Athena guardian goddess gf

>> No.17620723

>>17617389
When Diomedes goes sicko mode and starts killing everyone. I think it was a very pogchamp moment and also chadpilled

>> No.17620746

>>17617389
Didn't read it, familial library only had the odyssey, fewer politics and intrigue, more adventure, good nonetheless.

>> No.17620792

>>17617389
I like the one where Hector and Negromedes sneak into Achilles camp and rape his ass and mouth

>> No.17620810

>>17618363
Wine-dark sea is peak simile you daft eurotrash nigger

>> No.17620882

>>17618096
Lattimore is probably the truest to original, and maintains some poetic form , read his translation first
Pope has very beautiful rhythm and is very poetic, read this second.
Do not get Fagles, he is for pseuds and redditards

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>>17617389
I thought you guys might be interested in this. It's my professor's take on a chapter of 'The Odyssey'.

>> No.17621155

Ok, I literally JUST finished the Illiad. It ends with Hectors' burial? Achilles doesn't even die wtf.

>> No.17621162

>>17620882
Fagles is the one that's most faithful to the original. Lattimore makes stuff up constantly. Fagles is the closest thing to a direct translation.

>> No.17621166

>>17620911
jesus fucking christ

>> No.17621171

>>17620911
(1) Your professor is an ideologue trying to force discussions about his interests into places where they are besides the point.
(2) The best part of that book is when Argos sees Odysseus. Always brings a tear to my eye, even now just thinking about it.
(3) This is a thread about the Iliad, not the Odyssey.

>> No.17621177

>>17620810
I agree about Wine-dark sea, but what does that have to do with recommending Fagles, Fitzgerald, or Lattimore?

>> No.17621218

>>17620911
Honestly, I would probably do this if I were a literature professor. So many retarded 18-year-olds who've watched too much Ben Shapiro would take the class so they can LARP as defenders of Western civilisation. The Greeks were gayer than AIDS, women were more than subservient brood mares, and anyone who lived in the Mediterranean is at the very least beige-ish.

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>>17621171
>The best part of that book is when Argos sees Odysseus. Always brings a tear to my eye, even now just thinking about it.
it hurts so much

>> No.17621233

>>17620911
Based prof

>> No.17621251

>>17620911
kek

>> No.17621261

>>17620723
This, Diomedes wounding TWO gods is badass. Diomedes is my favorite character in the poem.

>> No.17621287

>>17621261
Diomedes, lord of the war cry*