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>wants to read it because people complain about it
Isn't living in spite exhausting OP?

>>17629721
Spite is a great motivator, perhaps the greatest.

This is one of those books I occasionally read without telling anyone just because I want to know what's going on with the normies.

>>17629711
A lot of feminists read that book, though.

Ironically, the "manosphere" was crazy about "Models" by the same guy years ago.

These books are quick, light reading. Just start and if you want to keep turning the pages, you will.

>>17629711
Bought this book a few years ago, Mansons book Models was useful to me so I decided i'd pick this one up too.

It is pretty middle of the road advice on how now to take yourself and other things so seriously, and that you have only so many fucks to give and those fucks should be given to things that matter.

i have no idea why the basedlets over at leddit would have a problem with it, besides Manson's history in the PUA/dating scene.

>>17629744
If you like being miserable maybe

>>17629761
>i have no idea why the basedlets over at leddit would have a problem with it, besides Manson's history in the PUA/dating scene.

>>17629711
i regret reading it and u will too, stick to what has survived the lindy effect

My crush owns that book

>>17629744
If you're a midwit

>>17629711
>Is it worth reading?
who gives a fuck?

>>17629782
Do you not live to spite death, anon? Enjoy to spite misery? Remember to spite forgetting?

>>17629960
Nonsense.

>>17629711
>you shouldn't care what people think of you because 99.99999999999% they are not thinking about you.

There...now you don't have to read it.

>>17629760
>Ironically, the "manosphere" was crazy about "Models" by the same guy years ago.
These guys write about banging supermodels, and then when you do a little snooping around, you find they're using paid actresses for videos or dating very plain women (David DeAngelo, etc.).

>>17629711
You'd be better off reading Classic Stoic philosophy like pic related or Meditations By Marcus Aurelius.

I havent read it but that book is 100% a money grab by the author. He's not a retard and knows how to leech money off insecure faggots. Read Models instead

>>17629711
yes you should read it because (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((they))))))))))))))))))))))))₩₩₩₩))))))))))) hate it
you are a redpilled chad with a incredible jawline, based

>>17629711
The first 30ish pages are grabby and make it seem like he's building up to something worth saying, though instead it takes a steep nosedive and reveals itself as the generic bullshit it is. Save yourself the money and google "how 2 be confident" instead.

It annoys me that I fell for this meme of a book though it taught me never to buy into """self help""" content again.

>>17629711
Funnily enough, I'm just about to finish it. My take, Manson has digested most of what has been traditionally recommended on the subject of "self-help" and "self-improvement". Regurgitated it on the page in a more palatable curated form for the average "normie" or "newbie".

It's a quick and easy read. You'll find it helpful if you're new to the subject. But as other's have mentioned it's surface level and can be repetitive (by his own admission in the book itself).

Good introductory crash course to get the ball rolling.

>>17629711
You fell for the grift

>>17629744
Clearly, you've not read the book or any book on the subject for that matter.

>>17630003
no, none of those things. you sound underage.

>>17630003
>Do you not live to spite death?
I live for life's sake. I do not think of death because I am not dying, I am living.
>Enjoy to spite misery?
I enjoy life for enjoyment's sake. I do not think of misery because I am not miserable.
>Remember to spite forgetting?
I remember to hold onto love for love's sake. I forget because my memory is not limitless.

Who thinks of such nonsense like this?

>Meditations By Marcus Aurelius.

>>17629711
Read The Prince, 48 Laws to Power, and other more directly Machiavellian books instead of this.

>>17629955
She's a big gal

>>17631037
t. insecure chublet who doesn't understand the comfiness of a large woman's embrace and love
for you

>>17629955
gross. in more ways than the obvious.

>>17630817
yeah that's me. what the fuck is wrong with that?

>>17631308
>for you
stopped reading there

>>17631308
faggot

>>17629721
no laughing at the peasants is always funny

>>17629744
Ew

>>17629711
My brother offered me this book after reading and I refused and called him a disgusting faggot

>>17629744
>>17630003
Living a life fueled by spite will leave you with a miserable life ending in an early death
Take the chill pill and be comfy. No need to curse at or judge things to be happy

>>17631037
>>17631317
She indeed was bigger than the average girl in my class and that's precisely why I fell in love with her, she had the biggest bust and a great ass.

>>17629744
very big brain, unironically

>>17632318
Prove it

>>17632330

>>17632360
i fucked this girl

>>17632388
Prove it, say her name.

>>17632360
Skinny

>>17632390
Emma

>>17632399
She's the one in black jeans sitting on the other girl's lap

>>17632406
Wrong. I knew you were trolling.

>>17632407
Fake and gay

>>17632430
It's real.

>>17632407
this is pathetic

>>17630535

I've bought the book maybe two years ago cuz I saw it in a book store and wanted to know if it encompasses anything I didn't already practice which was the case for everything active/visible but maybe not all passive things, the things that depend on your state of mind/personality/world view (which can be altered, albeit not by force & not in a short time)..
Still haven't finished it desu, but I agree on everything this anon says, except that I don't find it *that* superficial, not any more superficial than any other book of this genre, in any case.
Also, I'd like to know what exactly you meant by that or what you were implying would be the more "in depth" reading experience cuz I've spent hours reading Kant, Kierkegaard, Schopenhauer, Voltaire, Nietzsche, Sartre, Camus... and also many books on psychology (admittedly, those were mostly popular scientific books, since I find psychology papers very boring and exhausting to read (I'm a STEM guy), but as a ""young scientist"" I'd say ain't no shame in reading popular science to get a solid grasp of the topic)

my point being, I read philosophy and psychology since my mid teens (I'm 23 now) in genuine hope to find all answers for a fullfilled life - but what did I get? clinically confirmed severe depression F32.2 -- yay! <3

I kinda digressed.. hard.. but welp, I'm on 4chan so who cares.

And yes, it *is* regurgitation, but gotta love a rough summary, hm?


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On another note:
>>17629744
I wouldn't say I agree 100%, but I know there is a high chance I would like you irl, very much in contrast to
>>17629721
(>provokingly assumes OP's way of life &/or deliberately misinterprets his intention from one comment -- especially idiotic, since craving to understand why a book ignites a controversy is a sign of reflectiveness or intellectual curiosity, at least)

>>17629782
>>17629960
>>17630639
>>17630644

>>17630792
(>implying smth like inherent incompetence of the underaged? my teenage self would have challenged you to a duel to the death)
>>17632094

If all of the above are the same person then there is a probabilty close to certainty that I would hate your guts irl

ppl faking the pseudo-deep, happy-go-lucky, well-adjusted good guy make me think of murder

As a nihilistic edgelord, spite & cynicism are what keeps me from ending it all (& video games + music); my failure to find meaning or worse: having discovered the inescapable philosophical dead end that is nihilism makes me angry abt ppl who blindly go on & are obliviously happy..

Kinda not my point too, but this made me remember a quote somewhere from the internet that I found very resonating w/ me:
"I utterly hate myself, thinking I'm better than everyone else at the same time."

>>17632593
How so?

>>17629711
Isn't it purely aimed at women? I've never met a man in my entire life who's problem was he gave to many shits about this and that. Women on the other hand are totally neurotic about what other people will think and trying to live up to impossible standards they set for themselves. Most men do the exact opposite they focus on one thing to the detriment of the rest of their lives whereas women will burn out due to trying to please their surroundings.

I went to a top engineering school so I have a lot of experience with both high performance people and those who can't handle the pressure. In my experience men just let go totally when they can't handle the pressure anymore and spend a few months doing nothing but playing vidya and drinking, I was able to come back from that and graduate due to strong social bonds but not everyone is that lucky. Women try to hang on for months and months while maintaining appearance never really crashing out but also never going anywhere.
Thanks for reading my blog

>>17632713
nobody gives a fuck about your life

>>17632661
>needing therapy
>implying anyone needs anything invented in the last 100 years
What did people do for the 300,000 years of homo sapiens' existence before they invented therapy? How did anyone ever live without therapy? Those poor poor people, how did they not know that they were secretly traumatized, and that they needed to pay exorbitant fees to chat with a quack who wasn't good enough to be a doctor so he could write them a prescription to make all the bad feelies go away?

>>17632112
Based

>>17632858
(dunno where ur from, but I'm not from US lol)
he doesn't give me prescriptions, I've always been against that, whenever anyone brought it up

we talk. do exercises sometimes.
honestly, that's what I need; I didn't come to him, with a big grin on my face & he told me "you are mentally ill" & I went from :) to D:

I came there cuz I've been feeling miserable for years lel


also I don't get your second green line
you mean I'm implying that in my text & find that to be untrue?
I didn't utter such a general (& daring) opinion in that text, but if you'd ask me now:
I think nobody ""needs"" anything to live, including education, good food or even fun (philosophical answer)

the practical answer is, that I wouldn't want to renounce on many conveniences that were invented in the last 100 years & I think the average guy even more so.
especially concerning access to travel, food, books from everywhere .. or just internet & - by extension - a myriad of literature & knowledge (& fun lol)
So if you were to ask me: does one "need" the internet e.g., I'd surely reply "yes"

>>17632407
Cucked, your crush is getting railed by some other guy.

Why do feminists and soys complain about it? Never read the book but it seems like McStoicism to me, if you are on /lit/ you can read the relevent literature

>>17632713
It's not like men don't feel societal pressures too, but yeah they definitely don't care for them as much as women
>>17632733
>t. seething NEET

>>17632915
She told me she was a virgin when I was still in HS. I graduated in 2016 and haven't seen her since. It's over.

>>17629711
My friend who knows I read called and told me he read this. I guess he wanted me to praise him. Seems like a waste of time.

>>17632661
>my teenage self would have challenged you to a duel

>there is a probability close to certainty that I would hate your guts irl

>ppl faking the pseudo-deep, happy-go-lucky, well-adjusted good guy make me think of murder

>nihilism makes me angry abt ppl who blindly go on and are obliviously happy

>"I utterly hate myself, thinking I'm better than everyone else at the same time."

>>17630052
Isn't that from Adventure Time?

>>17630017
>>17629711
Based. Watch the video by Shia "JUST DO IT". That's it. That's the whole book. Get shit done dont think procrastinating.

>>17632909
You could always try not being such a pussy instead. You're "a STEM guy" who wasted all your studying time reading philosophy and psychology? No wonder you're sad, you fucking suck at your job, the one thing a man is supposed to be good at. How about you get off fourchawn and start practicing differential equations or whatever?

>>17629711
Let me save you the trouble.

Who gives a fuck what you do because who gives a fuck.

Rinse and repeat, literally.

>>17629744
Holy cow anon there are like 5 Nietzsche threads on the front page right now. Can't you read up something on slave morality? I promise it would do you good.

>>17632661
You are a hylic, and you can do nothing to change that. Give up looking for answers you won't allow yourself to find and you may find some modicum of inner peace.

>>17629711
Just read a bunch of the old Courage Wolf memes

>>17633665
Bruh Epictetus is a hack, he just copying cartoons!

>>17629711
read it and form an opinion.

It´s basically stoicism in dudebro language

>>17632661
>If all of the above are the same person then there is a probabilty close to certainty that I would hate your guts irl
>ppl faking the pseudo-deep, happy-go-lucky, well-adjusted good guy make me think of murder
most people don't like you either. if you don't seek a positive outcome or just neutrality, you must be exhausting to be around. ive met plenty people like you. it's boring, too draining and gets old fast.

>>17635210
>waste your time and money on this objective garbage so you can form an opinion
shut up retard

>>17633925
whoa, whoa.. wtf? ^^"

I *did* study my science stuff, I *am* close to finish my masters degree in chemistry & my bachelor in IT
I like maths, I know how to solve differntial equations..
I don't have a job yet, cuz my job is studying/writing my theses & I don't suck at it
Just cuz I'm "a STEM guy" doesn't mean I can't do many other things in my free time & I happen to like reading that stuff, doing music, playing vidya, wasting my time on the interwebz.. I'm just a nerd... It's nothing uncommon
Why would you think that's mutually exclusive?

really weird front

>>17629955
How big is she ?!