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Thoughts on Julius Evola??

>> No.17712100

>>17712092
>/lit/ - Literature & Evola

>> No.17712109

Valuable insights. Important failures. Commonly misunderstood and actually very complex.

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>>17712109
It is unfortunate that lots of people here will dismiss Evola and any other kind of traditionalist/right-wing/fascist philosophy just because it is associated with edgy memers. I think that this philosophy is absolutely right regardless of some people who might just claim to like him for the edgy memes.

>> No.17712508

bump

>> No.17712546

aristocratic reactionary hindu fetishist nonsense

>> No.17712551

>Evola admired SS head Heinrich Himmler, whom he once met.[15] Autobiographical remarks by Evola allude to his having worked for the Sicherheitsdienst, or SD, the intelligence agency of the SS and the Nazi Party.[16][17] During his trial in 1951, Evola denied being a fascist and instead referred to himself as "superfascista" (lit. 'superfascist'). Concerning this statement, historian Elisabetta Cassina Wolff wrote that "It is unclear whether this meant that Evola was placing himself above or beyond Fascism".

>> No.17712560

>>17712546
>>17712551
Sounds exceptionally based.

>> No.17712567
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>>17712546
>aristocratic reactionary hindu fetishist
based

>> No.17712574

How could you even make a thread asking this board for their thoughts on him when several threads about him are made every single day

>> No.17712601

>>17712135
Well, part of the problem is calling it things like “fascist philosophy”.

>> No.17712615

>>17712551
If you read the citations, it will make you wonder what kind of weasel actually writes the words on Wikipedia.

>> No.17712617

>>17712092
Stole his ideas from muslims and added some schizo stuff to it.

>> No.17712631

He wrote about Tantric sex magic and semen retention
>The Yoga of Power: Tantra, Shakti, and the Secret Way
>The analysis of the last age, the 'dark age' or Kali Yuga, brings to light two essential features. The first is that mankind living in this age is strictly connected to the body and cannot prescind from it; therefore, the only way open is not that of pure detachment (as in early Buddhism and in the many varieties of yoga) but rather that of knowledge, awakening, and mastery over secret energies trapped in the body. The second characteristic is that of the dissolution typical of this age. During the Kali Yuga, the bull of dharma stands on only one foot (it lost the other three during the previous three ages). This means that the traditional law (dharma) is wavering, is reduced to a shadow of its former self, and seems to be almost succumbing. During Kali Yuga, however, the goddess Kali, who was asleep in the previous ages, is now fully awake. . . . let us say that this symbolism implies that during the last age elementary, infernal, and even abyssal forces are untrammeled.”

>> No.17712644

>>17712615
Ok, I just read the citations they seem perfectly legitimate. what are you seeing?

>> No.17712651

>>17712644
Oh you read multiple books and documents in just 15 seconds, did you?

>> No.17712654

>>17712631
based

dont fap. retain your essence and purity. deny them your precious bodily fluids and use it to channel the spirit

>> No.17712675

>>17712601
I don't care what you think, fag.

>> No.17712684

>>17712651
Please, enlighten me Mr. fascist. Why are the wiki editors weasels? How did what they wrote offended your delicate sensibilities?

>> No.17712693

>>17712684
You do know that Israel literally hires Zionists to write wikipedia articles and make sure everything is kosher, right?

>> No.17712706

>>17712654
What if you have wet dreams? Is that bad?

>> No.17712719
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>>17712135
Evola is/was a very respected philosopher but feminist couldn't handle him.

>> No.17712733

>>17712719
Well naturally. Feminists cannot handle any legitimate intellectual.

>> No.17712742

>>17712719
>>17712733
Even the postmodernist Jean Baudrillard BTFO feminists lol

>> No.17712776

>>17712092
Saint Evola (pbuh) is the Greatest of All

>> No.17713037

>>17712684
Because they’re misleading, if not a blatant lies which cite texts that are perfectly clear.

>> No.17713094

>>17713037
Listen dumbass I know YOU think they are misleading, you don't need to reiterate that. I said ENLIGHTEN me because I want to hear what you think is misleading. I know that there isn't actually any misleading info there. Now, seeing that you cant reply with any misleading info in the wiki, I'm validated by winning an argument with a retard.

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>>17712135
Traditionalists were right, yes

>> No.17713127

whenever I see quotes by him they're based, but when I try reading his books it's meandering nonsense

>> No.17713132

I've only read RATM but I cannot understand the hate (well I guess I do, but it is completely unfounded), I found it very interesting and set me off in a schizo psychedelic led path towards Jung, Campbell and most importantly Guenon (pbuh)

>> No.17713134

>>17713127
you're just getting filtered. Keep learning, keep reading and eventually it will make sense.

>> No.17713138

>>17712719
>pic
lmao this is almost a parody

>> No.17713158

>>17713134
theres so many books I've yet to read that can deliver poignant and succinct insights, that its difficult to justify laboring to understand what evola is struggling to communicate. if that makes me a pleb so be it.

>> No.17713176

>>17712092
weak
nonsense
schizo
overrated

it's dated useless stuff for edgy teens and 4channers (grown teens)

>>17712693
just because joos bad doesn't make evola not shit

seriously if you're a fash you're better off writing some new book because there are no good fascist thinkers or maybe fascism is not about thinking after all

>> No.17713178

>>17713113
Where is this from?

>> No.17713184

>>17713178
Gateway process files

>> No.17713187

>>17713094
Your insistence on me giving a fantasy refutation of a whole series of statements and catalog of citations of many books and texts isn’t a refutation. Read the citations on your own like I said or stay in the dark. I won’t hold your hand like a child and I have no interest in having a debate with people like yourself online.

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>>17712092
Any male who considers himself a mystic, magci practioner or witch is a fag. Witch-shit is for women, don't be a homo.

>> No.17713203

>>17713184
The CIA ones?

>> No.17713204

>>17713194
truth

>> No.17713214

>>17713203
Yep

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>>17713214
Interesting, I need to have a more detailed look at them, thanks anon

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>>17712092
This year I would like to introduce you to your new Defence Against the Dark Arts professor, the self titled Il Barone Evola, the aristocrat of the soul.

>> No.17713281

>>17713132
rage against the machine?

>> No.17713364

>>17713113
>>17713184
>>17713214
Thank you unironically for shilling this lately. It's something I want to know.

>> No.17713388

>>17713276
he would fit in lmao, “you’ll be next mudbloods” slytherin ass

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>>17713132
>Jung
You better not be some kind of Petersonfaggot who reduces mysticism and spirituality to psychological archetypes.

>> No.17714089

>>17712135
Yes, it's not like he's being spammed every single day here

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>>17712092
Is that a common phenotype in Italy? He looks sort of Germanic in a way. When I imagine a Med I picture them with shorter heads, bigger noses, and curly hair.

>> No.17714105

>>17714090
You are probably thinking of Alpines peoples. Southern Germanics. Teutonic Germans don't look like that. Yeah. Evola was about as Italian as they come in terms of physiognomy but I can see why an untrained eye might mistake him for Alpinic.

>> No.17714112

>>17714051
>thesis
mysticism
>antithesis
psychoanalysis
>synthesis
???

>> No.17714133

>>17714105
Tell me about southern germanics. My grandpas senpai is from germany and looks super like these guys

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>>17714112
Do Jungians believe in literal mysticism and spirituality or do they ONLY see it as psychological metaphors?
I can't stand pseuds like Peterstein who reduce spirituality to psych faggotry.

>> No.17714152

>>17714133
I don't have much to say about them, just that they look more like British Peoples than stereotypical Germanic you'd see in hollywood like Dolph Larson.

>> No.17714154

>>17714133
Alpines are based. Mussolini was another example.

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>>17714152
No they look different from Britoids but yes they are also different from Northern Germanics. Pic related is Alpine phenotype I think desu

>> No.17714171

>>17714148
Psychology offers a scientific explanation for spiritual phenomena

>> No.17714176

>>17714105
>>17714152
But I thought Meds have shorter heads and big hooked noses and curly hair sort of like middle easterners.

>> No.17714189

>>17714165
Evola does have a britbong sort of face

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>>17714171
You have an extremely basic and normalfag tier understanding of spirituality if you think it is psychology.

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>>17714189
Maybe I guess I don't know desu

>> No.17714279

Stop spamming this faggot

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>>17714112
>>synthesis
There is no difference between psychoanalysis (interiorizing the symbols of the unconscious aiming towards individuation) and mysticism (inner transformation that is exteriorized in order to grasp the mystery of existence). They are one and the same, for there is only the individual, and only the subjective experience. Everything is mind, existence is a dream.

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>>17714308
shut up pseud

>> No.17714442

>>17714279
Go back to your Karl Marx and Jordan Peterson threads, gaylord.

>> No.17714450

>>17714442
I'm more of a Pynchon and Hemingway guy myself

>> No.17715418

>>17714450
>guy
More like gay

>> No.17715446 [DELETED] 

>>17712675
kys subhuman kike

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>>17715446
>antifascist calling someone else a kike

>> No.17715459

>>17714148
Yeah its quite disgusting. Psychology is a retarded field and Pythagoras probably wouldnt have accepted any psychologists into his academy if they existed back then.

>> No.17715469

>>17712551
>"It is unclear whether this meant that Evola was placing himself above or beyond Fascism".
They both mean the same thing...
Please stop using wikipedia.

>> No.17715515

>>17712631

>...infernal, and even abyssal forces are untrammeled.

So, jews, negros and trannies.

>> No.17715533

>>17715515
>trannies.
Not just trannies, but all forms of sexual perverts such as fags, dykes, adulterers, pedos, bestiality, and trannies.

>> No.17715537

>>17713176

>”joos”

Piss off, jew.

>> No.17715549

>>17713113

>thinkers like einstein

That’s a fail.

>> No.17715627

>>17715533
I piss on your mother's grave

>> No.17715654

>>17715515
>>17715533
There's the secret meaning which is that that Great Goddess who is ruler of her chosen during this age and gives them special privileges.

>> No.17715718

>>17715627
shut the fuck up creep

>> No.17715737

>>17714148
On the flip side, you have Freudians who believe practicing asceticism makes you sexually repressed and is a bad thing. In any case, having legitimate spiritual experiences is inconceivable to psychologists, and they think it's merely different states of mind and brain functioning.

>> No.17715752

>>17715718
ooh, feels good pissing in the grave of anon kun's mom I - I am going to cu-

>> No.17715756

>>17715515
>>17715533
also race mixers and whores
>>17715737
>having legitimate spiritual experiences is inconceivable to psychologists, and they think it's merely different states of mind and brain functioning.
Yes because psychology, psychiatry, and psychoanalysis are for Jews and other soulless NPCs who cannot think outside of the materialist framework.

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>Professor Nasr isn’t entirely clear in the narrative, but this meeting probably happened in the 1960s, arranged by Italian traditionalist Elemire Zolla:
>“Although Zolla no longer associated with Julius Evola, he nevertheless arranged for me to meet Italy’s most famous crypto-traditionalist writer who was a very controversial figure because of his espousal of the cause of Mussolini during the Second World War. I had already read some of Evola’s works, many of which are now being translated into English and are attracting some attention in philosophical circles. But based on the image I had of him as an expositor of traditional doctrines including Yoga, I was surprised to see him, now crippled as a result of a bomb explosion in 1945, living in the center of Rome in a large old apartment which was severe and fairly dark and without works of traditional art which I had expected to see around him. He had piercing eyes and gazed directly at me as we spoke [...] He also seemed to have little knowledge or interest in esoteric Christianity and refuse to acknowledge the presence of a sapiental current in Christianity. It was surprising for me to see an Italian sitting a few minutes from the Vatican, with his immense knowledge of various esoteric philosophies from the Greek to the Indian, being so impervious to the inner realities of the tradition so close to his home.” – Seyyed Hossein Nasr, “An Intellectual Autobiography,” The Philosophy of Seyyed Hossein Nasr. p. 68.