/lit/ - Literature

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>>17738581
try cumming on your face

>>17738581
The Tragedy of Heterosexuality
Pride and Prejudice
50 Shades of Grey

>deconstructing something that didn't have to be constructed
How do you do it?

>>17740079
heterosexuality is a construct that only exists in contrast with homosexuality. Both of these ideas were made up in the 19th century, with the scientific classification of everything. Heterosexuality isn't the default. The default is doing whatever you want with consenting adults and not having to label your sexual act or create a whole culture based on people having to defend their sexual relations. It's not normal that there's such a thing as "gay culture" or "straight culture." This naturally means we eventually have to end homosexuality and heterosexuality and return to a state of complete ignorance about "sexuality" while maintaining a culture of tolerance.


>>17738581
Read:
Straight: the surprisingly short history of heterosexuality
The Children of Men (or watch the film)
The Wheel of Time series

>>17740165
>The default is doing whatever you want with consenting adults
Thousands of years of history fly in the face of this assessment.

>>17740165
>muh social constructs
social constructivists are the worst.

>>17738581
Yaoi where both males start off as straight, like the one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zToIFBAibX8

>>17738581
Libtards
owned

>>17740165
>The default is doing whatever you want with consenting adults and not having to label your sexual act or create a whole culture based on people having to defend their sexual relations.
Except the whole basis of your dumb gay argument consists in attributing psychosocial constructs to pre-civilization, or even pre-agrarian societies, you stupid faggot.

>>17740165
Maybe sexuality being the basis of identity is a bad thing, but what do I know.

>>17740165
>The default is doing whatever you want
Based. Well said my friend.

>>17738581
What theory can i read that will help me appreciate the diverse and vibrant culture of these politically correct victimhood units, i mean these most noble and progressive of creatures? The nonstop propaganda just made me hate them obsessively and neurotically whereas previously i was merely indifferent to them

>>17740535
I mean at least the old catholic priesthood tried to be discreet about the child raping and kept it at a respectable level while the new woke cultural marxist priesthood(lgbt) is trying to brainwash us into thinking it is normal and progressive. First they started telling us they were normal people just like you and me who just wanted to be left alone but experience has shown the slippery slope is real and they want anything but to be left alone what they are getting away with would have been unimaginable just 10 years ago, imagine where we will be in 10 years if action is not taken to stop them.

>>17740558
Even at its worse (in the 70s and 80s) the rates of child abuse among catholic clergy weren't higher than those of school teachers.

>>17740595
Freud's seduction thesis jennifer freyd and the false memory syndrome foundation and pulitzer prize winning confessional poet anne sexton getting false memories of child abuse implanted by mkultra and paedo rings being the glue that holds the ruling class together

>>17740630
The all pervading fever pitch of sexual neurosis actually makes a whole load of sense now.

>>17740165
>This naturally means we eventually have to end homosexuality and heterosexuality and return to a state of complete ignorance about "sexuality" while maintaining a culture of tolerance.
Only faggots have insane dumbshit ideas like this. The only norm is reproduction. Kill yourself.

Apparently, non-human animals have fallen prey to the heterosexual construct.

We must be diligent!

>>17740786
what is ancient Greece? what is ancient Rome?

>>17741359
Gone.

>>17740165
>le social construct therefore bad argument
Look it's trying to sound intelligent.

>>17740165
>The sexuality that leads to reproduction is made up.
Ok homo, cope harder.

>>17740165
>Heterosexuality isn't the default.
90+% of people are heterosexual. It IS the normal setting.

>>17738622
Wasn’t expecting that my sides

>>17740165

>>17740165
>Read:
>Straight: the surprisingly short history of heterosexuality
>The Children of Men (or watch the film)
>The Wheel of Time series

>>17740222
>>17740244
>>17740456
>>17740459
>>17740786
>>17741694
>>17742623
>>17742714
>>17745113
>>17745124
Unironically gayer than whatever anon wrote. Seethe harder faggots.

>>17740595
the problem was that it was hidden and perpetrators protected by church

>>17740459
that's what that anon was saying, retard

>>17740165
classic non-philosophy libarts Majot mistake to think that concepts only exist once the words exist. Almost wittgenstein-esque, I I may dare say so *tips Fedora*.

The same like on thinking is also used to "debunk" race, and whiteness. Pathetic.

>>17740165
based. gender and sexual orientation are shitty spooks that unnecessarily divide us, abolish them. (biological sex obviously exists, dumbfucks, but i dont care)

>>17740165
>Heterosexuality isn't the default.
says the person born from a heterosexual union

>>17740165

Holy fuck you degenerate.

>>17738581
Plato's Symposium?

>>17740165
I unironically agree. Except when it comes to ''consenting adult''; sexuality is, has always been, the domain of childhood and childlike (often, but not always, regressive) states of consciousness, as per Freudian psychoanalysis. Gaze back carefully at your sexual life so far and you'll know it is true.

>>17740165
>consenting adults
>default

>>17746250
Trannies are literally just incels in drag. All they do is trying to call people bigots for not wanting to fuck their ugly ass. I think is reasonable to ostracize people who are obviously very disturbed and ideological and often child groomers, sex pests or prostitutes.

>>17740165
The 20th centurywas a mistake and this is proof of this

>>17746699
you are literally inventing people to hate and letting them live in your head rent free. most trans people are normal people. dont judge an entire group based on what you see on youtube or twitter.

>>17740165
This is half-right. The reality is that "sexuality" necessarily refers to the sexual act: the meeting of the male and the female sexual organs in reproductive activity. Once sodomy is renamed as a mode of "sexuality," real sexuality must then be renamed "heterosexuality" to conform to the new, entirely constructed, linguistic norm. Furthermore:
>The default is doing whatever you want with consenting adults and not having to label your sexual act or create a whole culture based on people having to defend their sexual relations.
This is false. The "default" is doing whatever you want with consenting or non-consenting adults and/or children. As in all things in nature, the strong fuck what they can and the weak suffer what they must. "Homo-" and "hetero-" sexuality may have been made up in the 19th c., but the concept of a "consenting adult" is much newer.

>>17746767
T. the same people who think you should be a second class citizen on your own country for daring to be born white and straight.

>>17746801
again, youre just making shit up to be mad at. the people who say shit like "kill all white people" are out of touch upper middle class urbanites completely out of thouch with regular people or reality, and so are you, just on the other side.

>>17745337
Now all the sex offenders realised it was more convenient to hide behind trendy politically correct victim identities and get protected by the church of leftism

>>17738581
My story does this in a way, but it is merely about the fulfillment of hidden desires and asserting oneself, it does not focus on homosexuality, the character is not a homosexual but merely desires something. That aside it is racist in many parts.
https://anonpaste.org/an-ironic-heaven

>>17746909
they are the mascots of the leftist neoliberal regime it seems like you cant go five seconds without having those freaks shoved down our throats. The more th media insists in shilling them the more unpleasant they seem

>>17742623
>>17742714
>>17745113
>>17741694

Obviously people have a preference. But the categorization of this preference and the building of an identity around this, and making this a "social norm" is total nonsense. Sex is an intimate act, not a social act. Therefore "sexuality" is a nonsense idea. Homosexuality is a nonsense idea and heterosexuality is equally stupid.

I'm not saying that having straight sex is wrong. I'm saying that the classification of straight and gay are dumb because they imply that society has any business knowing what kind of sex you like. It pigeonholes people and allows for social conflict based on these differences.

Do you oppose the constant SJW identitarian nonsense? GOOD. So do I. But we must counter this mindset based on principle, not prejudice. You're all using your own identitarian nonsense. How is being "straight" any less bad than being "gay"? Because it's more common? Who cares if it's more common? You're still using a dumb label to announce to the world something that nobody needs to know.

>>17747938
I hope you eventually realize that "leftist" and "neoliberal" are polar opposites.

Neoliberals favor privatization and deregulation of the economy. The only possible reason you mention it is that you have no idea what you're talking about, and you're probably conflating social liberalism with Neoliberalism.

To your larger point, I'll say that we must push away the distractions that the media tries to shove on us. Look around yourself. How many trans people do you know, in your own life? How many people do you know that actually get offended by any of the shit we are told that people are getting offended by? It's all a ruse, so they can continue their corruption and their wars. We must start paying attention to the things that matter and turn away from bullshit culture wars that nobody gives a fuck about.

>>17747938
> they are the mascots of the leftist neoliberal regime it seems

Leftist does not necessarily mean progressive, that's the word you're looking for. Because if you think that the left wing advocates for Neoliberalism then get a refund on your school money.

>like you cant go five seconds without having those freaks shoved down our throats.

Unironically go outside. This is not at all what you see, now if you only live in your conservative/ /pol/ bubble then yeah i guess these people do live rent free in your mind.

>>17748070
this is a really important thing that people need to begin to understand, or understand again

what people like to do in the bedroom between consenting adults should be of no interest to anyone but those consenting adults

it should also be culturally unacceptable to reveal anything about what you want to do in the bedroom or expect anyone else to give a shit about it unless they're interested in joining you

if this were to become a cultural norm, then we would be able to tolerate homosexuality at practically no cost to society, it would just be something that some people do for entertainment, who gives a fuck. they would act no differently than anyone else in any other aspect of their life, since it would be socially unacceptable to reveal the information, and therefore socially unacceptable to expect anyone to treat you differently based on it or to allow you to act differently based on it

the risk to society from accepting homosexuality comes when homosexuals believe that their homosexuality somehow endows them with the right to act differently or be treated differently, which can only happen when the society at large chooses to give a fuck about what people like to do in the bedroom in the first place, or allows people to convince others to give a fuck about it

the supreme value should be 'keep it in the bedroom', and 'don't ask don't tell' is a fairly good idea for society at large

>>17748330
>should
>should
>become a cultural norm
>would
>socially unacceptable
>should
>good

>>17748121
>>17748194
Leftism has been completely co-opted by neoliberalism.

>>17748403
No. Neoliberalism is its own thing, completely unrelated to Leftism. They aren't just different. They're fundamentally opposed. If neoliberalism has had more electoral success, then this means neoliberalism has gained popularity, not that Leftism has been "co-opted" by neoliberalism. Neoliberalism is economic privatization and deregulation. It has nothing to do with Social Liberalism. Famous neoliberals like Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush, have opposed social liberalism and restricted the rights of gays, did not support legalization of drugs, and opposed abortion rights. They were neoliberals because they cut spending, deregulated, and privatized. Neoliberalism is a return to Liberalism...the classical liberalism of Smith, Bentham, Milton, and others.

>>17748356
You lack imagination if you can only think of things as they are, and not as they could or should be. What kind of machine-brain do you have where you can only perceive of things based on what they are now? Humans have an ability to make creative assessments, to analyze, to predict, and to affect their own environments for the achievement of goals they set out to accomplish.

>>17748330
I mean what have these people ever done other than get fucked in the ass? Why should society place them on a pedestal? You get the sense what they do is not even sexual they are engaging in shrill politically correct activities at the behest of soros bill nye the science guy and their marxist professors, purely ideological and sanctimonious and utterly devoid of eroticism

>>17748330
The problem is they want anything but to be left alone these people are obsessed with identity and victimhood and with imposing their putrid ideology on our children

>>17745153
Actual seething faggot. You're outnumbered here gaylord.

>>17741359
Vastly overstated

>>17738581
My diary ages 14-19 desu. Then for a reconstruction, my diary ages 20-23 desu

>>17741359
A place where the prevalence of homosexuality is greatly over-exaggerated and misunderstood

>>17748527
they've done whatever they've done other than get fucked in the ass. i hope for a world in which we care about people's achievements, but not which genitalia they like, which should be an irrelevant detail to anyone but their sexual partners. there are loud gays with nothing to be proud of in their life who therefore try to make something as boring as their sexuality as a source of pride. this is annoying and invalid and fucks everything up for the quiet gays who would prefer to act normally in the surrounding society and be indistinguishable from everyone else outside of the bedroom, because they actually have other things going for them

>>17748561
the trans movement has absolutely nothing in common with homosexuality, and more and more homosexual and bisexual people are trying to decouple them from lesbian/gay/bisexual movements. this is a good thing, because trans is a cancer in its current form in the west, yes

>>17748687
T. straight identifying white assimilationist cisqueer. The right wing are never going to accept you as their own but keep grovelling

>>17748512
>You lack imagination if you can only think of things as they are, and not as they could or should be.
Do you have the same attitude towards other animals?

>>17748876
our ability to model the future and run through mental scenarios of what it might look like when variables change is something that other animals lack

>>17740165
Based. All the people getting triggered don't understand what you're getting at and have a /pol/ fried image of you. Rejecting sexual orientations applies just as much to homosexuality, pansexuality, etc. Appealing to reproduction is a shit argument, another, just like you said, product of Darwinist scientific classifications. I thought people here were BASED AND TRAD - obviously not.

>>17740459
That's what the guy is saying niggerface

>>17748902
>our ability to model the future and run through mental scenarios of what it might look like when variables change
It is also something that is highly inaccurate, especially when you believe in progressive ideology. You'd have to be mentally impaired to say something should be a certain way when in reality it is the opposite.

>>17748945
if individuals have the ability to change their view on the relative importance of the sexuality of others, and are more likely to do so if one points out why they should do it (because it may result in a society in which we can focus on more important things), then telling them why they should do it seems appropriate

maybe everything is predetermined and it is always pointless making any argument for people changing their views on anything. is that what you're saying?

>>17748687
Advocating for gay rights enforces the notion of sexuality and creates an opposition like always (homophobes, people who don't want to bake the cake). I thought ypu didn't like that. Also this whole idea of "neoliberalism" is a total meme by marxists who willfully ignore the geneology of their own ideas, then again Marx sealed his fate when he took Hegel seriously.

>>17740165
Literal biology constructed sex between male and female
If you're talking about some heterosexual "character", idk why you do all this chicken and the egg bs
Obviously they are related
Why do so many gays speak in -that- voice? Does the behavior have anything to do with it? Probably.

>>17740165
Also You are the one talking about "default"
I'm not saying we need to follow biology but it's what nature constructed to we can carry forward our species

You don't need to "deconstruct" heterosexuality if there is no default. It has merit by virtue of its existence and has strength to our species by virtue of nature making it the method of conception.
I swear gays consciously and unconsciously (intentionally avoiding awareness) do this so they can gaslight straights into fucking them.

>>17749080
yes. LGB dropping the T is progress toward eventually dropping the LGB and having just human rights, and neither knowing nor caring what people get up to in the bedroom

>>17738581
I got the whole chart.

>>17749071
My disagreement with you has less to do with determinism and more to do with your inane liberalism and values. I suppose doing away with sexuality is a good thing as less people would become mentally unhinged miserable queer psychos on the internet and in real life, which I have had the unpleasant experience of meeting, but doing it you way won't make it happen, in fact it'll propably make it worse.

>>17740165
Also you're dreaming if you don't think behavior and actions dont result in a particular mood and experience. Nervous system responses. Neurological chemistry fluctuations.
This is obviously going to alter behavior and thus create identity.

You're acting like there's no roots of identity anywhere. Thats a total projection.
Wait till you guys get into blood, genetics, and their correlation with behavior expressions.

>>17740165
>The default is doing whatever you want with consenting adults
>The default is the offspring of liberal ideology, which is only a few centuries old
Okay faggot

>>17740165
>while maintaining a culture of tolerance.
It's a man's identity to not enable everything. That's why we have laws.

>>17749131
>human rights
And now we stop talking

>>17749099
It's like saying "why do so many blacks speak in ebonics." it's just caddy low-class gays who do that. Good gays are straight gays.

>>17745153
>no argument
>s-s-seethe h-harder!!!!1
every time

>>17749176
It's still part of character that relates to behavior, activity, state of mind, etc.

I'm not saying any of these or inherently right or wrong just that it's total bs to think that your actions won't reflect on your character and what identity you are inclined towards orbiting.

Also I just want to add that this level of atomization is an intentional op because an absence of unified identity means the environment is in control.
Also when you are that fluid in identity you are very susceptible to being influenced by your environment.
Do you see an environment on the rise that you trust?

This is all very feminine deconstructionism about having no identity.
One can practice fluidity and emptiness of these things if they wish.
But you will eventually find yourself in a conceptual state of confusion about direction, or purely following whatever can trigger drugs in your body and brain.

This is the virtue of having an identity, as an identity is essentially embodied rules and confidence, and gives you more of your own autonomy against the environment.

It's in the interests of politicians, corporate, and elite to break your identity because you are much easier to orient and divide when everyone is atomized into individuality and tolerating anything they can make up a story to rationalize.
ESPECIALLY if they ever get biometrics in your body, your chemistry and thus actions will be much easier to manipulate
https://youtu.be/xH_SVNVIfzk

This is the virtue of stable identity.

>>17749131
>yes. LGB dropping the T is progress toward eventually dropping the LGB and having just human rights and neither knowing nor caring what people get up to in the bedroom
That won't do. Society will never reach consensus on what are the general "human" rights that should be enforced, you will always have this organization fighting for this particular purpose, while these other organizations fighting against it etc. This pluralism of interests is ineleminable, therfore organizations have to restrict their scope. There is no super organization that takes care of everything.

>>17749289
This
But that is what they want
Why do you think they advocate communism and globalism? They basically want a sugar daddy for government. It's the erasure of masculinity and identity at any level but the controllers of culture.

>>17749168
>>17749289
>>17749309
remove the 'and having just human rights' part if it makes it easier to read without completely missing the point

I'm not bothered by people or groups who want to deconstruct this stuff
But your fallacy is that asserting this over the cultural environment is the correct way to be
Having an identity is fine, you know. It's about the virtues of that identity.
The rest is just verbal semantics.
This is the issue with taking anything as empirical, but I suppose that's what afford a vigor of fighting for it.

Again, I must warn people about this level of identity breaking in the West considering all the interest for control.
This is something you do with a group of friends in India or something.
OP is probably a propagandist for some alphabet agency.
Breaking heterosexuality is just another notch in breaking masculinity and making us all susceptible to whatever the next internet trend is

>>17749344
Human rights are completely made up. They don't exist. They are whatever we assert them to be.

And what IS the point
Again stuff like this takes extreme trust in the environment, because the environment then becomes the determinate of identity.
When you are fluid, you fill the space. You morph to the script.
So who is designing and who is writing?
This again is the virtue of identity as it is able to have horse blinders when necessary to give it more agency.


Our culture is not nearly high trust enough for this level of fluidity and that's what makes me feel it's just about tool to break and control people

>>17740165
>This naturally means we eventually have to end homosexuality and heterosexuality and return to a state of complete ignorance about "sexuality" while maintaining a culture of tolerance.

Impossible in any area

Is there a word for when someone judges an individual who belongs to a group (ie a gay belonging to "gays" or a white person belonging to "whites") based on their perception of the group?

>>17749344
>remove the 'and having just human rights' part if it makes it easier to read without completely missing the point
That was the entirety of your post, if I remove it I am staring at a blank page.

>>17749446
Prejudice


Birds of a feather

>>17740459
not very much by the looks of it

>>17738581

>>17748742
damn life is real retarded right now

>>17749158
Sexuality is part of anyone's identity. But not all of what we are has to be public. There are private elements of ourselves. Sexuality should not be anyone's business. That's how we end homophobia and how we stop making heterosexuality the norm.

I'm not suggesting some weird social experiment. I'm suggesting the easiest possible option: not caring about sexuality at all. It's easier to not care than to care. It's easier to go about your day than to create a whole culture that's Gay or Anti-Gay.

>>17740165
>heterosexuality is ahistorical
>”””consenting adults””” isn’t
Nigga what

>>17751073
https://www.google.com/amp/s/transanityca.wordpress.com/2017/08/13/synanon-the-brainwashing-game-and-modern-transgender-activism-the-orwellian-implications-of-transgender-politics-by-jenn-smith/amp/

Being so fucked in the head by the psychotic biopolitics (which is what identity politics really amounts to) you dont even feel like having sex with anyone and anyway you are too atomized and saturated with pornography and antidepressants to even desire it. I mean the author of this article is herself a transgender so we can either conclude maybe there is a point to be made or b. These people are a bunch of whackjobs

>>17740165
Christ.

>>17740165
>The Wheel of Time series
Masterful b8

>>17748194
By this point, leftists repeat the party line of multinational marketing and HR of the CIA and the state department in a more strident way. They are dupes who spread democrat propaganda without even getting any pizza in return

>>17738581

>>17751073
>But not all of what we are has to be public
Lived-experience-oriented-identity ripples out from potent experiences. Sexuality is a heightened state that anyone can experience at any point

Your post still smells absolutely rancid of ops.
>just don't care about sexuality
Yeah okay

And either way everyone is absolutely obsessed with sex right now. It's not going to dissolve culturally until the next generation realizes how fucked this one is.

>>17738581
The year is 202x under suspicion of being a transphobe and a russian asset the house unamerican activities comitee has ordered you to attend a state sponsored screening of star wars XXVIII: trans rights avengers assemble, the latest disneygooglepepsico motion picture extravaganza. As you are escorted to the theater you pass by the daily george floyd memorial prideblm transmcdonalds parade with a fabulous troupe old 9-year-old boy catamites twerking before the phallic missiles of the lockheed martin float, missiles set to launch at midnight towards the eurasian heartland (mercifully) wiping the human race off the face of the earth.

when you arrive at the theater, alexandra ocasio cortez and bill nye, the science guy, strap you into a chair forcing your eyes open clockwork orange style, the screen flickers on but instead of space adventures or superheroes the audience is treated to what looks like blurry vhs footage of a pack of bluehaired fat positive queers raping an innocent white child intersped with blipverts for the latest techproduct. The brainwashed leftists in the audience bleat monotously in unison: YAS KWEEN SLAY at what they cant help but see as a beautiful and heartwarming display of diversity and progress. Oh god the queers have started ripping appart the child, feasting on its bloody entrails like rabid hogs at the through. You sit on the front row and think: "gee i shouldve joined the alt right before it was too late"

>>17748070
I agree with you but I'm still an identitarian. It's unfortunate but that's just how the world works anon, can't stop destiny

Does anyone feel like the momentum in the 2010s for the LGBT movement fizzled out after COVID-19? I can't be the only one.

>>17740165
>The Wheel of Time series
kek

>>17751907
Anything that relies on submission, shame, and fear as a motivator is bound to dry up
People want to be inspired into acting in our world. Making people feel shitty about themselves doesn't accomplish this

>>17751907
>Does anyone feel like the momentum in the 2010s for the LGBT movement fizzled out after COVID-19
Really doesn't seem like it fizzled out to me, it's as strong as ever

>>17740074
>50 Shades of Grey
???