/lit/ - Literature

Yes, we still live in that age.

Typical incel sperging.
You can find posts expressing the syame thing more concisely and better on /pol/ every day, not that any of them would be worth reading. It's pathetic that people still jerk off over dumb shit with a black and white face next to it.

>>17749182
A jew wrote this

>an age which has no great artist or no great philosopher
Nietzsche was alive when he wrote this so no

>>17749268
Weininger was actually tall and successful, you’re projecting your own low statis onto him. As a low status person you need the her because you cant go out on your own.

>>17749324
>tall and successful
He was a depressed incel loser from a rich family who wrote a book long r9k cope post about how much he hates women and himself and then committed suicide at age 23.

>>17749341
Imagine being very tall and strong, knowing 7 languages, and getting your degree with top marks by 22.
Guy was brushing shoulders with Freud and other big names by the time he was 20.
People who knew him remembered him almost as a prophet.

Now we turn to you. The moron screaming buzzwords at a corpse. Does anything else have to be said?

>>17749419
How come all his ideas are idiotic, if he was so smart? Freud thought he was a terminal lunatic, and he wasn't the only one.

>>17749444
Tell me, what was his end goal for women? Let’s see if you understand even one of his ideas

>>17749324
he has a 4/10 face.

>>17749182
Based Weininger, I wonder what would have become of him if he's stuck it out a bit longer

>>17749491
He was a genius, but he was also half insane. He thought he was going to save the world.

>>17749579
I mean the line between genius and insane is pretty darn thin. The best authors are those that dare to move over it.
>He thought he was going to save the world.
He was pretty damn prophetic though, if only people heeded his words.

It was wrong back then and it is probably wrong now, incels are unable to understand reality: that's why they are who they are.

>>17749182
how long must I keep it in mind?

>>17749182
What does he mean by demivierge? In my country this used to mean a girl who was slutty despite still being a virgin - nowadays nobody uses the word, as those went extinct.

I got through a third of sex and character and had to drop it because the truth was too powerful. Not sure when I’ll pick it back up

>>17749972
It would appear that what Weininger means by the word, which is French in origin, is the same as the meaning it used to have in your country. Robert Willis renders it as "semi-virgin":

"Our time, which is not only the most Jewish, but rather also the most feminine of all times; the time for which art merely hands over a sweat-rag for its moods, which has derived the artistic impulse from the games of animals; the time of the most gullible anarchism, the time without sense for state and justness, the time of the species-ethic, the time of the most shallow among all conceivable views of history (of historical materialism), the time of capitalism and Marxism, the time for which history, life, science is all only more economics and technology; the time which has declared genius as a form of madness, but which also possess no single great artist, no single great philosopher any more, the time of the least originality and the greatest bombast over originality; the time which has fixed in the place of the ideal of virginity the cult of the semi-virgin: *this time also has the renown to be the first which* [has] *not only affirmed and worshipped coitus, but rather has elevated* [it] *as if a duty*: not in order to forget itself, like the Roman, the Greek in the bacchanal, but rather in order to find itself and to first give substance to its own desolation."

>>17749313
Weininger didn't have a very high opinion of Nietzsche, placing him at the "outermost boundary of that where the designation of genius still takes place", but still higher than any scientist with, regard to genius.

>Meanwhile one is perhaps here inclined to the admission [that] even the most outstanding man of science would be no so comprehensive a nature as even those philosophers were it, who stand at the outermost boundary of that where the designation of genius still takes place (I am thinking of Fichte, Schleiermacher, Carlyle, Nietzsche).

>>17749444
>all his ideas are idiotic
What is an example of one of Weininger's ideas that is "idiotic"?

>>17749491
Transition would have saved her

>>17749444
>all his ideas are idiotic
What is an example of one of Weininger's ideas that is "idiotic"?
>Freud thought he was a terminal lunatic, and he wasn't the only one.
Are numbers the truth?

>>17749579
>He was a genius, but he was also half insane.
If by "half-insane" you mean "half-feminine", I agree. Weininger had a large feminine side which he kept in check by a strong masculine side.
>He thought he was going to save the world.
Is there something wrong with thinking this?

>>17749182
Just a common example of a philosopher taking his life too seriously.

>>17749444
Didnt read your post but trips so you win

>>17749313
Why would Weininger praise an atheist, nihilist and postmodernist like Nietzsche . Fucking idiot

>>17749444
I bet you couldn't even explain why his ideas are so "idiotic" lmao, poseur

>>17749645
women can't get their easy life without getting men to compete for them. competition implies that some men will be bolder than others to be chosen by the woman for casual sex. Women are at the top of the sex market and they like it. THis is why women are communist for anything but sex, and they still want sex to be a free market, because they are the alpha predator only on this market.


Now that you learnt this, you understand that men who realize they are at the bottom of the sex market can only say the truth: the sex market is rigged and privileges women, and women hate to see this reality.

>>17749268
>muh /pol/ muh incels
get a grip retard

>>17749182
Literally who?

>>17749444
>How come all his ideas are idiotic, if he was so smart
how would you know? based on your posts you haven't read him.

>>17749182
No.

>>17749182
Seething incel cope, disregarded

>>17752223
Seething tranny cope, disregarded

why do trannies criticize incels of all people for not being about to have sex when they by definition can't have sex, lacking actual genitalia?

>>17753688
Even if an incel is ugly and socially inept, it's still possible for him to have sex, whereas trannies have destroyed any possibility of having (real) sex ever again. I think it's just misguided jealousy and anger.

>>17750691

Do wonder why this website and culture is so obsessed with transgenderism

>>17749276
No

>>17751932
>atheist, nihilist and postmodernist like Nietzsche
He wasn't an atheist or a nihilist. Wtf.

>>17749182
Would you please tell him "have sex"?

>>17753674
I'm a straight male. Why do you assume it has to be a tranny disregarding you as bitter, socially rejected incel?

>>17753843
>I'm a straight male
you will never pass

>>17753843
Yikes that makes you even more gay

>>17753849
>t-tranny!
Unironically have sex, celibacy turned your brain into mush

>>17753857
>incel incel incel
rent free. go outside loser

>>17753868
Clearly you're the sexually inadequate reject when the topic made you this upset

>>17753877
you seem to be the upset one here tbqh

>>17753883
Seething. I recommend sex.

Here is Weininger's quote in its original German:

>Unsere Zeit, die nicht nur die jüdischeste, sondern auch die weibischeste aller Zeiten ist; die Zeit, für welche die Kunst nur ein Schweißtuch ihrer Stimmungen abgibt, die den künstlerischen Drang aus den Spielen der Tiere abgeleitet hat; die Zeit des leichtgläubigsten Anarchismus, die Zeit ohne Sinn für Staat und Recht, die Zeit der Gattungs-Ethik, die Zeit der seichtesten unter allen denkbaren Geschichtsauffassungen (des historischen Materialismus), die Zeit des Kapitalismus und des Marxismus, die Zeit, der Geschichte, Leben, Wissenschaft, alles nur mehr Ökonomie und Technik ist; die Zeit, die das Genie für eine Form des Irrsinns erklärt hat, die aber auch keinen einzigen großen Künstler, keinen einzigen großen Philosophen mehr besitzt, die Zeit der geringsten Originalität und der größten Originalitätshascherei; die Zeit, die an die Stelle des Ideales der Jungfräulichkeit den Kultus der Demi-Vierge gesetzt hat: *diese Zeit hat auch den Ruhm, die erste zu sein, welche den Koitus nicht nur bejaht und angebetet, sondern wie zur Pflicht erhoben hat*: nicht um sich zu vergessen, wie der Römer, der Grieche im Bacchanal, sondern um sich zu finden und der eigenen Ödigkeit erst einen Inhalt zu geben.

And the anonymous 1906 English translation:

>Our age is not only the most Jewish but the most feminine. It is a time when art is content with daubs and seeks its inspiration in the sports of animals; the time of a superficial anarchy, with no feeling for Justice and the State; a time of communistic ethics, of the most foolish of historical views, the materialistic interpretation of history; a time of capitalism and of Marxism; a time when history, life, and science are no more than political economy and technical instruction: a time when genius is supposed to be a form of madness; a time with no great artists and no great philosophers; a time without originality and yet with the most foolish craving for originality; a time when the cult of the Virgin has been replaced by that of the Demi-vierge. It is the time when pairing has not only been approved but has been enjoined as a duty.

>>17753897
sure thing buddy. take a valium and a deep breath.

>>17753897
I recommend a noose around your neck, faggot

>>17753922
Have sex

>>17749182
>keep in mind that this quote is almost 120 years old
Yes, like all generations, he believed his own to be the worst. Nothing new. No, he wasn't right

>>17749182
Why did he kill himself?

>>17754313
He was a jew who understood the jq

>>17754313
Incel, but unlike the most of his kind, he was smart enough to end the suffering early.

>>17754313
It was the pain of being unenlightened, or a "criminal" as he put it.

>>17753829
huh, Nietzsche is an atheist, a nihilist, postmodernist which appeals to a lot of liberals and other deeply neurotic teenagers. Nietzsche says there is no god, thus Nietzsche is an atheist. Nietzsche says that there are no fact, only interpretation, thus Nietzsche is a nihilist. Nietzsche says that life is just about going all in on the value war and making up values, thus Nietzsche is a postmodernist.
Marxists paint themselves as living in the present moment, unlike the christians who care about what comes after life. Even those subhumans see themselves as the followers of Nietzsche .

Nietzsche lives only in atheism and is the achievement of the secular humanism which booted Christianity out of power.
Nietzsche is overtly anti-christian, overtly anticlerical, and it permits to all the atheist bug men to actually see themselves as the righteous resilient guy who create his own values
In effect trannies are the best ubermen ever: they ate to see themselves as they really are, so they change both their neurotic spirit and also their body to match the narrative of the ubermen and even better, they impose their values to non-trannies.

The overman is actually the last man: the overman despises so much reality after seeing nihilism, that out of resentment for reality, the uberman CHOSE to sink further in his delusion by building a narrative where is not the last man, but actually the opposite: the uberman who create his own values, ie living in own brain farts until he dies.

>>17753900
Weibisch is way different that feminine.

>>17754430
>Only the sage may reply to the bait

>>17754480
The translation in OP's image is by Ladislaus Löb, who renders "weibischeste" as "most effeminate". Is this more accurate?

>>17753823
yes he wrote a book called The Gentleman and the Jew, where he talks about how jews (like him) are ruining europe.

>>17751932
Fuck off Jordan Peterson
Come back once you’re ready to comment on Two Hundred Years Together

>>17749182
Based Whinenigger

>>17754535
only if you consider effeminate as a fully negativ term. weibisch is fully negative, with implications of weakness, shallowness, hysteria etc.

>>17756557
most words in English are meaningless. Is effimante good, bad, neutral? It depends on what the person who uses the term thinks it means. There is no objective base to our language.

>>17749182
More like Otto gaynigger

>>17749444
>How come all his ideas are idiotic, if he was so smart?

Excellent rebuttal.

>>17749645
>incels are unable to understand reality: that's why they are who they are.

it's pretty funny how femoid and/or liberal cope always crashes at some dead-end of individualist absolutism. just goes to show how immanently feminine and gay individualism really is

>>17749182
He says that, but all the post-WWII years are somehow even more Jewish and effeminate.

>>17756557
>>17756557
It's literally feminine though. Die Weib means the wife.

just the same as those born today who are nostalgic for a time they didn't live in. the "wrong generation" types.

>>17756620
Wrong, it's das Weib, which is an old fashioned word not only for a wife but for a woman in general, and the word for feminine is feminin, or weiblich as the more generic "female". Weibisch is derogatory and Weib is too these days.

>>17756557
>>17756575
I can see now by looking at these examples of use that "weibisch" has negative connotations that "feminine" or "effeminate" don't, necessarily.

>>17756894
What is the difference between "Frau" and "Weib"?

>>17750680
who else did he call genius?

>>17757123
Weib = broad

>>17757123
That's complicated. The meaning at some point in the I think 20th century changed. 'Weib' is just the old word for wife and woman. You would only use it today in a cheeky way to descirbe your wife since it's now used pejoratively like 'broad'. I still experienced old people in villages just use it for 'woman'. No one today uses 'weibisch' really, just 'feminine'. No idea when it would've become an explicit pejorative.

>>17757123
Frau originally meant a married woman of higher social standing while Weib was a generic term for a woman, married or not. Over time Weib became more and more derogatory, apparently that's a phenomenon in many other languages where they constantly had to come up with new terms for women because the old ones had become an insult.

>>17757233
Weininger called quite a lot of people geniuses, but argued that the "person of most genius" is the "Religionsstifter" or founder of a religion and mentions Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha and Luther in this context.

He also called a lot of authors, philosophers and musicians geniuses. An incomplete list of people who he thought had something to do with genius or follows.

Lenau
Beethoven
Knut Hamsun
Kleist
Goethe
Bach
Novalis
Jean Paul
Verdi
Hegel
Schleiermacher
Krause
Maine de Biran
Carlyle
Nietzsche
Ibsen
Wagner ("the greatest person since Christ")

>>17757233
Weininger called quite a lot of people geniuses, but argued that the "person of most genius" is the "Religionsstifter" or founder of a religion and mentions Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha and Luther in this context.

He also called a lot of authors, philosophers and musicians geniuses. An incomplete list of people who he thought had something to do with genius or were in some way geniuses follows.

Lenau
Beethoven
Knut Hamsun
Kleist
Goethe
Bach
Novalis
Jean Paul
Verdi
Hegel
Schleiermacher
Krause
Maine de Biran
Carlyle
Nietzsche
Ibsen
Wagner ("the greatest person since Christ")

>>17757602
Based
Why did he have to go so soon

https://youtu.be/-ILZMS_O-CY?t=279