/lit/ - Literature

>>17766631
>Being born
The first great tragedy tbqhwy

i feel her pain. the best would be to sprout breasts and penis and no ovaries or scrotum

>>17766631
Blessed are you, HaShem, King of the Universe, for not having made me a woman
>>17766637
there's a japanese troon like that. makes me absolutely sick. cutting off genitalia, fucking vile.

>>17766631
Women are literally the cows of humans lmao rekt

>>17766631
wtf is this shit. reads like a female anon, lol

>>17766700
You think this is funny?

>>17766631
This reads just like posts on 4chan

>>17767033
and yet Plath is acclaimed while our school shooters are demonized.

>>17767033
She was in her early 20s when she wrote this

>>17766631
It's all true. In my own observations women tend to have a superficial concept of masculinity and are attracted to men that exude those qualities. You can also see how much scorn women have for men who stick to fields that women themselves are capable of, like those men have failed to live up to their penis.
I'm glad I'm not a woman desu.

>>17766631
What does your journal look like, champ? She published books. Made, really, quite a few very good poems. And you?

>>17767189
I meant what she described sucks, not the writing itself which I like

>>17766631
Her prose sucks, but her poetry is actually great. Read Ariel

meanwhile we have thousands of people on here who want to be women. some people just always want what they can't have.
with that said, I am grateful I am a male

>>17766631
Kinda looks like Wittgenstein

>>17767228
I don’t think her prose sucked, it was just a bit underdeveloped. Her journals showed a lot of potential. She was trying to improve but then offed herself before she had time

>>17766631
I sympathized with her until she horrifically bashed manlets harder in her books more than I had ever seen in my life. She literally called for the suicide of every man below 5'11", and felt the need to throw up whenever she had to interact with one, in Bell Jar, and that was just the tip of the iceberg. Those entire manlet hate passages read EXACTLY like incel falseflags/fantasies about how women view them, except they were entirely written by a real woman. It was insane.

>>17767257
She's not wrong.

>>17767257
>She literally called for the suicide of every man below 5'11"
Wtf I love Sylvia Plath

>>17767342
t. 5'11.1

>>17767257
hahaha, and remember that women read this in high school and treat it like a bible

/lit/, could you satisfy Plath's requirements from the book:

>must have a chiseled jawline
>must be a doctor/lawyer/stock broker/writer/construction worker/fisherman/firefighter (she hated engineers and lab workers)
>must be rich
>must be 6'3"+, with 6'5" being the ideal
>must have blonde hair
>can't have brown or green eyes (the latter remind them of her mother)
>must dress very nicely
>must have a very deep voice
>must have an upturned nose (dunno why lmao)
>cannot have sad eyes

and a couple others I'm forgetting. she's like the original femcel lmao.

>>17767453
oh I forgot one of the most important ones
>must go to a top 5 university (she regarded anything under as a sign of low wit and genetic stock)

>>17766631
So tired of kikes promoting this shitty author. Nobody outside of the Jewnited States reads her these days. She was a terrible stylist and a terrible human being.

>>17767453
This is so false. Ted Hughes had dark hair, greenish, almost hazel eyes, was middle class, 6’2’’ (not a manlet but still), a huge droopy nose. If she did write that, she didn’t mean it, because she was madly in love with Ted

>>17767257
>>17767453
someone post the passage where shes talking about manlets

>>17766631
Very accurate description of the hysteric desu.

>>17766631
Cope.

>>17767470
Time for you to go back, nigger.

>>17767512
>>17767453
>>17767257

As a manlet I must see this passage.

>>17767537
Women can’t write. Get your testosterone checked.

>>17767257
and then she followed her dog brain instincts into an abusive relationship with a tall guy. get rekt bitch

>>17767257
>>17767453
I respect women, I really do, but why is all female anguish involved with not being able to lock down a 99.9999th percentile man

>>17767257
>>17767453
blackpilled again

>>17767453
>cannot have sad eyes
dang, so close

>>17767257
>>17767453
how did people get baited by this
do you seriously not read these books?

yeah, she REALLY, REALLY disliked manlets, but she never called for their deaths.

>>17767670
>yeah, she REALLY, REALLY disliked manlets, but she never called for their deaths.
Is this manlet stuff online? I've never read any of her stuff so I don't know who is exaggerating.

>>17767160
You sure about that? I'm a teacher and girls like me quite a bit. Maybe teaching is a masculine job that happened to be invaded by women.

She's the prototype egirl, who ares

>>17766631
damn. I've pondered the idea that puberty really is a bitch for achieving women as they are given a brief taste of achievement only to be surpassed by even the most mediocre of men in many areas. This whole blame society thing is never of interest to me but when women acknowledge that there are real biological differences that cause these problems it hits hard and it actually makes me sympathetic towards altering society the way starting by blaming society never could

>>17767670
>Tolerating any form of hate
You ought to be shot.

>>17767705
It's literally a position of authority over them

>>17767492
women don’t know what they want, anon

Men have been writing about being sad since the beginning of time.
A woman does it once and suddenly she's a genius.

>>17768857
Beating

>>17767246
Damn she killed herself? Pretty based desu. I should read her.

>>17767584
back to r*ddit simp.

>>17767257
>>17767453
>>17767460
She also had an IQ of 160, if you don’t meet _ALL_ of these qualifications you were determined unworthy by a superior intelligence
It’s OVER, /lit/

how do I cope with the fact that this bitch IQmogs me by at least a standard deviation

>>17769091
Damn she had an IQ of 160, I never knew. The Bell Jar was very bland though. I really liked the poems of hers that I've read.

>>17766631
Now that I know her IQ was 160 I think that puts this quote into perspective a bit more. Her problem wasn't just being born a woman, it was being born a 160 IQ woman. The average woman is a mega brainlet so she must have hated being around them.
But then she wanted to speak to smart men but they all took it the wrong way. Every guy with an IQ over 115 probably wanted to marry her instantly, so then she has to avoid her brain equals too.

>>17767257
brutal

>>17766704
Yes?

>>17769281
pfftahahahahah

>>17766631
Reading The Bell Jar right now. She really, really needed that father figure. This is probably what it comes down to with most art hoes and morbid women.

>>17768857
Women want what they can’t have. If Ted Hughes was madly in love with her, she would not care about him and would find every little defect in him, but because he dgaf she was madly in love with him. That’s how women are. They can’t help but want the man who doesn’t want them anymore.

>>17769268

IQ communication gap is ~30 points of difference, 115 IQ males would have found her insufferable. But high IQ women are so often completely dysfunctional it matters little. Knew a girl clocked at 185 who ended up in the hospital after her abusive boyfriend locked her out for 2h on the balcony in -20 weather while she was wearing a slut dress. She had been going out with him for 2 years, had cheated on her ex to get him, and was constantly showing up at work with bruises.
I'd much rather date a midwit.

>>17769606
> She really, really needed that father figure. This is probably what it comes down to with most art hoes and morbid women.
It’s not just women. Absent or shitty fathers are the cause of pretty much every single psychological human pathology there is.

>>17769606
>This is probably what it comes down to with most art hoes and morbid women.

thats not exclusive to them.

>>17769655
sure thing bro for real definitively. knew this girl with a professionally verified iq of 279.7 that was being passed around to his group of friends by this one illiterate drug dealer she was super obsessed with. crazy right dude.

>>17769655
Oh that's funny the same exact thing happened to me.

>>17769655
Women make bad and irrational choices as a rule; combined with the overall weirdness of genius level IQ and they end up making truly self-destructive choices.

>>17767257
>incel falseflags/fantasies
>women literally spelling it out for you over and over again

>>17769664
Did daddy hurt you, anon?

>>17769655
Having such a high iq she probably got off to being called a dumb slut.

>>17769736
She had a fixation with posting pics of asian girls giving footjobs to gorillas on her FB.
I also overheard her talk about one of her fuckboys to a coworker and how he insisted on peeing on her and how that was kinda gross but if they did it in the shower that was fine.

>>17769750
You're having a laff anon, c'mon.

>>17769759
No jk.
If it put things into context we're both lawyers... ain't much more fucked up a breed than us, sadly.

>>17769759
kek just go back faggot.

>>17769769
>tfw will never be the low iq trogledyte subjugating a genius iq lawyer woman and ruining her public respectability

>>17769778
She was very cute and wrote insanely well (although it was always very "womenly", always psycho-sexual dramas, but she really had a flair for it) had won a couple prizes for it, and was fairly pretty (chinese, small, bit of a yoko look but a much better face imho)...
I *think* I could've given her to good ol' d, at a point, early on, we spent a few nights together drinking wine and talking until the late hours... but she seemingly didn't understand some people don't want to cuck others. And once she got involved with the abusive troglodyte I just couldn't anymore.

>>17769281
>IQ of 160
>ends up despising short men even more than normal women

i thought smart people were less "shallow", bros. how do shortcels cope

>>17769655
i've seen women like this as well. an autistic math major I knew was doing her PhD at my uni at age 19. she had a stereotypical chad business major bf who would frequently cheat on her and she would bend over backwards to stay with him, over and over.
She also made fun of ugly men a lot

>>17769728
It seems this is very much the case with professional/intelligent women.
I've managed to date women who were akin to golden retrievers, as a manlet. Without fail, every high IQ/successful woman I know despises anyone below 6'0". It's crazy how much shortcels cope with
>"only dumb and shallow women reject men based off of height!"

when it's exact opposite

>>17769281
>TFW the female anon will never love me

>>17769281
Than Minton was 5'10" by the way

Bet you it's one particular autist making up stories about intelligent women doing dumb things and being in abusive relationships to dumb men. You can tell because the stories are always absurdly self contradictory in multiple ways simultaneously, that only someone with absolutely no clue about anything related to them could write. Seen this guy before. Not sure what his deal is, but he should do a 1 min google search into his setting before going off to avoid this and make them more believable.

>>17769909
You mean Plath or the blatant shitposts? Plath was most definitely in an abusive relationship with a dumber dude.

>>17769909
Kek you sound delusional.

>>17769693
>>17769700
t. never met a 3-sigma IQ autist woman in uni who inevitably has BPD and an ED

>>17766700
Based lmao. Sylvia Plath always was a hack, fuck her.

>>17769909
'high iq' roastie cope

>>17766631
Genuinely reads like my Braincels posts from when I was younger and a pussy.

Are you telling me I would have been famous if I were a woman?

>>17769918
Boohoo poor Sylvia Plath. I too would attempt to murder suicide my own children if I was a Stacy that got a free ride through life and became an acclaimed author by writing one (1) book. Truly a tragic existence.

>>17769909
No one tell this guy about how smart women are statistically more unfaithful, and are (anecdotally), way bigger sluts

>>17769655

She took the test at a young age and this was an age ratio score. Her iq on modern yes s would probably be like 140 something

>>17769949
How would you feel if you were attractive, had a 160 IQ, and the only men you could find in your life were good-looking, 6'0+ gorillas with 105 IQs, smart and good-looking men who were sadistic, good-hearted men who were 5'8 and below, and all the other undesirables in between?

She was exceptional and therefore needed an exceptional mate. She was doomed from the start.

>>17769949
I just read her wiki page and kek'd
>The nurse was due to arrive at nine on the morning of February 11, 1963, to help Plath with the care of her children. Upon arrival, she could not get into the flat but eventually gained access with the help of a workman, Charles Langridge. They found Plath dead of carbon monoxide poisoning with her head in the oven, having sealed the rooms between her and her sleeping children with tape, towels and cloths.[36] At approximately 4:30 a.m. Plath had placed her head in the oven, with the gas turned on.[37] She was 30 years old.
Next paragraph begins:
>Some have suggested that Plath had not intended to kill herself.

>>17769940
Yeah brauh crazy the world is filled with these 238 iq 19 year old girls all doing phds in math and physics but also majoring in math at the same time, with drug dealer boyfriends. At night they hang around and do hard drugs with these boyfriends and their social circles while making non stop ruthlessly cruel remarks about the type of guys they're surrounded by in academia. They also generally have 5 abortions a year from getting pregnant when their bfs pimp them out. For sure I've seen the same thing with all the top 100 ranked women in math in my country.

>>17769957
by age 8, IQ tests are correlated with r = 0.92 to adult IQ scores
look up one of those heritability studies

>>17769965
you seem extremely upset at the fact that intelligent people can do irrational things. ask me how I know you didn't go to a top uni.

>>17769959
Go outside.

>>17769959
>literally too smart to be happy meme
Nah I don't entirely buy that. I think her dissatisfaction, particularly with men is largely her own self-destructive invention stemming back to daddy issues and brain wiring. Bitch was just fucked in the head, that's obvious from her reading.

>>17769791
>chinese
Okay, now it all makes sense

>>17769973
You will literally never understand you retarded scrote.

>>17769967

They used to estimate IQ by making a ratio of your performance as a child to the typical performance of a young adult, this technique inflated high range scores on widely administered tests like the stanford binet. I don't remember the specifics, but you can look into it yourself. They later switched to age referenced normal scoring which required a very large pool of data and fine tuning test items

>>17769959
>How would you feel if you were attractive, had a 160 IQ,
good
>and the only men you could find in your life were good-looking, 6'0+ gorillas with 105 IQs, smart and good-looking men who were sadistic, good-hearted men who were 5'8 and below, and all the other undesirables in between?
Oh yes then I would definitely have to kill myself

>>17766631
>>17769978
relevant

>>17767548
We know you don't read, please leave /lit/

>>17769968
No no man you're right. All the hot female theoretical physicist post docs at my uni who are 19 years old are getting picked up by their latino street gang boyfriends after work. Everyone knows that.

>>17769957

I have no clue at what age she took the test, I'll admit that. She was a brilliant (if a bit one-sided) writer, played piano much better than I did (I had been playing for about 15 years back then) and was an perfectly acceptable lawyer (if you looked over the fact that she was a complete slut and therefore had no intrinsic respectability). She would also wreck me at chess but that's probably more because I'm hilariously bad at it (to compare I'm 135 IQ).

>>17769948
This is also from Sylvia’s diaries when she was 19/20. And no, I’m sure she was a lot smarter than you.

>>17769992
look back on this post when you finally date that cool, high IQ, talented woman you're pining after only to have your delusions completely BTFO after a month in the relationship. she's not going to be the one to appreciate your "brilliance", buddy. she isn't a kindred soul.

>>17769949
Retard. She died completely poor in a small London apartment with two children she had to take care of alone. She was an unknown writer and her one novel came out after her death

>>17769995

I responded to the wrong post. I meant to reply to autists gawking at plath's childhood IQ

>>17769996
My posts were from when I was 14/15. Damn, looks like I'm actually WAY smarter than her. Can women do anything?

>>17767562
pottery

>>17769992
>All the hot female theoretical physicist post docs at my uni who are 19 years old are getting picked up by their latino street gang boyfriends after work.
Replace latino street gang boyfriends with lazy abusive eternally-struggling tattoed hipster musician boyfriend and this is 100% accurate.

>>17770010
Hahahah.

>>17767033
>>17767228
>if everything you've ever written doesn sound like lolita then you suck
Kek brainlets exposed themselves hard. Quit reading and posting on /lit/ faggots, you're just imposters.

>>17770003
Thank you anon. I'm so sick of these jackasses thinking that smart, attractive, talented, emotionally stable women exist. It's SJW propaganda

>>17770022
There is no such thing as a high IQ person who is emotionally stable though.

>>17767033
kek

>>17770008
NOOO BOOOHOOO ALL MY TALENT IS WORTHLESS IF I CAN'T GET MY 170 IQ, 6'8", 250 LB OVERHEAD PRESSING, MATHEMATICIAN/FISHERMAN/LUMBERJACK/RHETORICIAN/SNAKE WHISPERER/WRITER/PHILOSOPHER KING BF LIFE IS PAIN

>>17770022
>smart, attractive, talented, emotionally stable women exist.
They do. In the 125-145 IQ bracket.
and probably not white.

American writers are a joke, what a twist.

>>17766631
Sylvia plath bite the dicc when she give succ. She eat man pubic hair.
I pound her poussi good she want an like big one in poussi i give her big one in poussi make poussi joussi n loussigoussi tie a noussi with her ovaries and try it out, get woussi. Thassa doussi, no youssi. Sorry.

>>17770031
She truly was an anon

>>17770031
meant for >>17769959

>>17770008
>She died completely poor in a small London apartment with two children she had to take care of alone

>>17770020
Anon, they're just teen journal entries. They suck.

>>17770040
Down with the thiccness

someone posted this thread on lolcow, which is why we seem to have some angry femanons in here

>>17767257
Extremely based.
Manlets have all the negatives of women and none of the positives of men. They need minecraft

>>17770008
She had huge opportunities and connections. She was literati.

>>17770043
This.
If only she had settled for a goodhearted manlet who would have given her a large (if somewhat shorter) family.

>>17770003
Yeah the worst thing is when these 19 year old phd student majors become academics and marry some other academic, some dork and have children. And obviously everyone knows they're still secretely in abusive relationships with drug addicted construction workers on the side. None of their kids even belong to the academic they married kek!

>>17770050
go to a muay thai gym and try and beat up the 5'5 thai dwarves in there real quick

>>17770040
god crazy art hoes are prime for pounding. Imagine her screaming daddy.

>>17770048
kek big if true.

Cursing your position in life for not being ideal is worse than coping with it.
Just be a tomboy Jesus fucking christ.

>>17770057
19 year old PhD candidates aren't even unheard of. There were literal 17 year old boys at UCLA working under Tao.

>>17770048
post link then

>>17770050
Cringe,
Straight Shota & Muscular Giantess is the most sublime of aesthetics.

>>17766631
Would you rather?

>>17770050
>>17770051

> The duality of Man(let)

>>17770043
No, anon, it is not good. Wishing suffering on people just means you have poor mental health. I pity you

>>17770069
All depraved coke addicted cum sluts spitefully talking about the need for terence tao and every other man in their field to be brutally murdered from 5 pm -9 am no doubt.

>>17770090
>Wishing suffering on people just means you have poor mental health.
No.
Doing evil to evil is good.
You didn't start with the Greeks.

>>17770057
>>17769992
if you're talking about me @
>>17769874

this is the girl I'm talking about retard
https://math.berkeley.edu/people/grad/paula-burkhardt-guim

she is leagues smarter than you and most likely things you're an incel.

>>17770097
forgot her PhD page
https://math.berkeley.edu/~paulab/

>>17770090
>Wishing suffering on people just means you have poor mental health
You mean like your favorite writer?

>>17770043
Those poor children are going to be exactly like their mom, it's gonna be shittier

>>17769988
KEK. Can you imagine the woman who wrote that?

>>17770097
How many times to we have to tell you anon, SHE'S EMOTIONALLY UNSTABLE!!!!!!

>>17770103
She just hated people based on forces out of their control, like all anon do. She didn't wish suffering... on a dead person?

>>17770107
i'd rather not desu

>>17770118
Her daddy poem seems to be pretty hurtful.

>>17770118
>She didn't wish suffering... on a dead person?
Based retard

>>17770118
>She just hated people based on forces out of their control, like all anon do.
>She just did something with a quantifiable effect
>She didn't wish suffering... on a dead person?
> She didn't do something that has no effect whatsoever

>>17770107
Literally unironically just a girl who needs a dominant animalistic cock. She's clearly around educated college cucks who treat her with deference all day.

>simping for a dead woman

>>17770097
>>17770102
Yup this confirms it. She passionately hates and considers subhuman all the short ugly dorks in the field she dedicated her life to and gets passed around by ms13 members in exchange for meth by night. Very similar story to 58 other 190iq + women I've known.

>>17766631
I can't think of a worse existence than being a good looking and intelligent woman. Men don't care about how smart women are, not even remotely.

>>17770135

Butters it isn't fair of you to take your trip away now.
I know what people say here, but since you've already identified yourself as the board's #1 cunt you really should just buy into it.

>>17770135
Beautiful summary.
>discussion over

>>17766631
What a stupid bitch.
Being a tall good looking talented women is a literal cheat code. Only a pathetic cunt would discard these privileges and screech about some other dumb romantic bullshit.

>>17770150
She's like the DFW of women

Alright, I'm out of this thread. Gotta go study.

I'm >>17767257
and pretty much made everything up. Plath disliked manlets romantically and there's a passage in the first 20 pages about how she was disappointed by one, and that's about it. She didn't like manlets as partners, but she's not anymore nasty in her dismissal than with the other men in the book who are also deemed unfit for her (like skinny men).

Thanks for playing, manlets.

>>17770153
also, the guy in the book was shorter than her, so it's completely understandable. She hated feeling tall.

>>17770118
>She just hated people based
Based

>>17770153
>pretty much made everything up.
>she's not anymore nasty in her dismissal than with the other men in the book who are also deemed unfit for her
Ah fuck... maybe I was a little harsh and quick to--
>like skinny men
Fucking cunt glad she's dead

>>17770153
based exposing non-readers

>>17770153
she deserved to get ovened.
t. manlet

>>17770135
are you actually a seething femanon? lmao
to be honest no women should date a college-educated male over a tradesman or a blue-collar worker

masculinity is receding these days

>>17770152
DFW was an autist. And he wasn't good looking or "alpha". I wouldn't compare him with Plath. Man was an intellectual of highest degree.

>>17770107
neurotic, disagreeable, obese, ugly, no question. happy, sociable, and attractive women usually love men and never say stuff like that about them.

>>17770180
>high IQ and white skin
>literally the only things that matter
>still kills self
They were both retards

>>17770153
>Alright, I'm out of this thread. Gotta go study.
> Sat 01:28:23
Kek you had me for half a second there.

>>17770179
>no women should date a college-educated male over a tradesman or a blue-collar worker
Why women would waste their time with a doctor or a lawyer is beyond me

This ugly bitch has zero clout outside of obese burgerettes lmfaooooooo

I love how you can pinpoint the exact post where this thread went to shit (when IQ was mentioned)

>>17770204
Lawyers are knuckle-dragging retards and doctors all look like different skin-tone variations of

i've never met a doctor I didn't mog

> Oh no I'm so sad my 5'3 manlet ass has been forced to date an Alina Li-lookalike super slut for the last 3 years and not this beautiful tall white female!

>>17770220
Meanwhile I never met a single plumber who I didn't want to fuck me like the sissyboi I am

>>17770199
Nah DFW's suicide was due to objective reasons but Plath was your typical overly sentimental girl who got way too much attention so in that space she whined to feel better herself in bunch "normies" and orbiters in her circle listened to that whining because people have an immense ability to act like slaves in the presence of charming and good looking persons.

>>17770204
Do you always speak with such a pansy, passive-aggressive tone? God, I can hear your fucking nasal obstructions. How would you react if I grabbed your 5'6" frame by your pencil neck with my left hand and lifted you off the ground, then slowly crushed your windpipe with 40% of my power, that I've honed with countless grip exercises using the FitBeast Hand Grip Strengthener Kit, the Pnrskter Hand Grip, and my IronMind Captains of Crush Hand Gripper?

>>17770243
Now I'm no (child-molesting) therapist, but this seems a bit like projecting, anon

ngl the shitposting in this thread is pretty fun to read.

>>17770254
This is why I come here, kek

>>17770094
don't know why but I lost it with this post

you're okay, cuck

>>17770258
It's not possible for anyone to know the exact reasons so the best course of action is projection.
You should read the descriptions of mental illness by DFW and Plath to decide for yourself.

>>17770254

>>17770254
it's clearly either a lolcow or butterfly.

>>17769281
Based?

>>17770292
Come on, Butterfly is kinda annoying but at least doesn't talk like a normalfag teenage bitch.

>>17770280
>the best course of action is projection
/thread

>>17770254
re-read the post, retard. I was agreeing with you. Lemme guess, you're college educated?

>>17770313
It was an obvious sarcastic post and now you're backpedaling after I brutalized you. Step into the ring, meatbag.

Gotta sleep but I just wanted to say I had a wonderful time shit posting with all of you. Goodnight and ILY

>>17767059
Women are privaleged

To be honest. As much as I troll and shitpost on here I feel bad for people like her and wish we lived in a society where they were treated with the paternal love they never got.

>>17766631
Sounds autistic. Her problem is essentially that people do not do what she wishes they'd do. That's her curse.

>>17767257
Sounds based

>>17769281
Holy fuck, I'm dying.

>boohoo I couldn't land a frat bro who makes 6 figures straight out of undergrad
>Should I neck in an oven?
>Yeah.