/lit/ - Literature

>>17776362
He was Russian, Russians are dumb on average.

- Pole

>>17776362
Why did you save a thumbnail?

He was the original le based slav

>>17776362
YOU GOT FILTERED MAH SON

>>17776362
Dostoevsky's whole idea is to parody the christian ethos and doctrines in a full spectrum critique of it as an ideology and praxis.

Dostoevsky clearly wasn't an actual christian. He was far too intelligent and learnèd for that. it's truly a testament to the retardation of christcucks that they can't realize Dostoevsky was only ever mocking them

He literally makes all of his intelligent characters Nihilist academics who despise christianity and all of the christians are portrayed as the village fools or social and intellectual cowards. Dostoevsky saw christianity as something fit for the peasants and his entire corpus is a dedicated effort to lampooning the religion via sarcastic fulfillment of its asinine tropes.

Dostoevsky was laughing at all the christcucks throughout his entire life. He lived in outright defiance of all christian doctrines. Dostoevsky wasted fortunes on prostitutes who he played sadist on. he had multiple affairs. he drank and gambled himself to ruin. But it was all okay because he could just shit out another parody of christucks and he'd be heralded as a heavyweight of orthodox apologetics.

Seriously I don't understand where this whole "Dostoevsky was a christian" meme came from. a critical review of his life and works immediately reveals that he was one of the most profound atheists who ever lived.

I'm Catholic, so I don't really stand on Dostoevsky to put it mildly.

>>17776380
https://youtu.be/2_0q_CXl41s

>>17776446
and not a single argument was made

>>17776362
he is right
i didnt get it at first

>>17776446
>nihilist academics
>raskolnikov ends up suffering terribly for the act he committed as an attempt to rise above (Christian) morality
>is in tears of joy at the thought of spending the rest of his life toiling away in Siberia as penance for his transgression
Yeah, bud. You grok it.

I suppose you could read anything as sarcasm/jest if you've a personal motive to. Can you justify an interpretation of Crime and Punishment that fits your post? Did Dostoyevsky spend so many words on Raskolnikov's internal struggle merely to mock it?

>>17776446
Just in case you're not trolling, go see a psychologist for an IQ test, you might be clinically retarded.

>>17776362
>he cares about logic

ngmi

>>17776362
>How do people think this retard "destroyed atheism"
Quote a single person who ever said this.

REASON, AND FAITH, ARE MUTUALLY COMPLEMENTARY; THOSE WHO LACK EITHER —OR BOTH— OF THESE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO COMPREHEND THIS COMPLEMENTATION.

>>17776446
Alyosha wasn't an intellectual coward you heathen!

>>17777525
That hat makes her look ridiculous

>>17777498
Dude your a literal pedophile

>>17776446
admit it, you've never read him, you've just absorbed bits and pieces through this board over time

>>17776446
Big brain post, agitated christcucks seething in replies....

Quick question:
When he says that without God everything is permitted how does that 'prove' God? What is not permitted right now because of God?

>>17778626
it doesn't "prove god" its just an assertion that objective morality is impossible without objective metaphysical backing, which is of course true

>>17778635
Does objective morality exist? Should it?

>>17778646
I dont know, im agnostic

>>17776446
I love high effort bait like this

>>17777541
It's a he. Seriously, read before posting.

>>17776446
It’s a good thing you attached an anime gif to your long ass post so I know I don’t have to read it

>>17776362
>Imagine arguing against logic
Logic is a faculty of the human mind. Nothing more, nothing less. It's one piece of the pie that makes up reality. To rely solely on the objectivity of a subject is an absolutely absurd idea. To become entirely rational is to divorce yourself, from yourself. It is, in itself, irrational since it's impossible. Nor is it even preferable, since yo would lose your humanity and become a machine. A computer is entirely rational, or at least to our irrational and imperfect minds it appears perfectly rational. To become entirely irrational is to become dead. A mere object that sits there waiting for user input. The user is the irrational. The rational the object which it acts upon. With only the irrational, there is nothing to be acted upon. With only the rational, there is nothing acting.
You cannot ignore part of the equation (your own imperfect humanity) and expect an accurate, or even desirable, result.

He predicted the savagery of the 20th century. The man was based and you are an incredibly homosexual winged faggot.

>>17776446
I think Nietzsche and Dosto have in common that both wanted to go further morality. However Nietzche goes back to nature as Fiodor keeps pushing to the absurd which is God. That's the reason Raskolnikof cries of joy with the thought of paying his crime in Siberia, those tears represent the absurd of God. You have the perspective of Ivan, while Dostoyevsky had Aliosha's. He was not an atheist.

>>17776446
t. seething ivan

>>17776362
The literal definition of
>LALALA I'M NOT LISTENING

Fideism is a cope.

It's not about logic or reason, it's about aesthetics. I may be illogical, irrational, and retarded, but have you considered BEARDS and ONION DOMES and HECKIN ICONS?

The victory of Atheism over Christianity (which, really, is just Evangelical Christianity, which is consuming all other denominations at a breakneck pace) in the Fedora Wars was an aesthetic pyrrhic victory. Cheap plastic siding, a man in skinny jeans with a guitar and ear gauges singing about how Jesus is his boyfriend, and a fat black woman crying in the background is ugly. All the Christfag does is slide his tepid pseudo-atheism into the skin of some foreign religion and call it BASED.

>>17776362
>atheism
what is this 2014?

>>17776446
rethink this buddy

>>17776446
you're assuming that dosto thought that big brained = good though.

>>17776362
>Nietzsche basically said the same thing
Is this why some people argue that Nietzsche wasn't really an atheist?

>>17780783
People argue that he wasn't an atheist because he laments the fact that being truly religious in the modern age is impossible (the death of God), ignoring the fact that he thinks it's faith has become an indefensible position to have unless you do some serious mental gymnastics.

why are bugpeople so obsessed with logic? leave logic to the machines, fucking redditors

>>17780802

>>17780794
Oh okay. Though he does also oppose the modern age's naive scientism too (his "gay science" being a reference to Emerson's "joyful wisdom" aka the art of poetry, the idea that modern science is shallow because it lacks poetry), so I could see that as also supporting the view that he's not an atheist.

>>17780802
>>17780809
Stop replying to yourself, schizo.

>>17776446
What a sublime and masterful bait. I kneel

help can anyone tell me from whom this quote is
it goes something along those lines
if there is a god and he doesnt let me into heaven if i was a good persion then i dont want to believe in that god

>>17776446
What anime is this gif from btw

>>17776380
if they were dumb and still conquered poland, what does it say about the average pole?

>>17783020
Either pascal or some Greek or Roman dude

>>17783699
another anon in another thread already found it, thanks anyway

>>17780757
>which, really, is just Evangelical Christianity, which is consuming all other denominations at a breakneck pace

books on this topic?

>>17776446
If only dostoesvky was this based

>>17776362
>How do people think this retard "destroyed atheism"
That didnt happen