/lit/ - Literature

Based Brennus.

Still, ‘might makes right’ doesn’t really account for the feelings of revenge that you’ll inspire in the people you’ve conquered, and that rage will explode one day, so in the end might really doesn’t make right

What literature are we discussing?

>>17940845
Equity

>>17940845
I'm stronger than you and I say that might does not make right.

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>>17940861
You’re arguing over semantics
*wisely used might makes right

>>17940867
Sir, I think you're in the wrong board! This is /lit/!

>>17940845
I can't, literally, might makes right.
What I don't share is the way you equalize being mighty and doing bad things because you are weak resentful people who wants to do evil thing to others because people abused you.

>>17940878
But if might is your ultimate judge for this, it will always spread into every area of your life, including the wisdom you derive ‘wise use’ from. In the end, you’ll just circumnavigate your wisdom altogether, and just beat up anyone who disagrees with your rule. Eventually, those will outnumber you, and rebel against you, making might something that isn’t useful on the long run

>>17940845
what if I, as the strongest, do something that I consider to be bad
is that good or bad

>>17940845
Right makes might.
Might for right.
Simple as.

>>17940887
>What I don't share is the way you equalize being mighty and doing bad things because you are weak resentful people who wants to do evil thing to others because people abused you.
same

Why would I want to? It's objectively correct.

>>17940902
If it contributes to your might in some way, it's good. If it harms you, it's bad.

>>17940924
Well, wouldn't that make it "might is right" rather than "might makes right"? Maybe that's an autistic distinction, idk.

>>17940845
>'Rights I will permit thee to call everywhere "correctly-articulated mights." A dreadful business to articulate correctly!
- Chartism

>Divine right, take it on the great scale, is found to mean divine might withal!
- On Heroes, Hero Worship and the Heroic in History

>Carlyle always denied that he confused ‘‘might’’ with ‘‘right.’’ In the margins of a German biography of himself that he received in July 1866 he wrote, ‘‘What floods of nonsense have been and are spoken & thought (what they call thinking) about this poor maxim of Carlyle’s! C. had discovered for himself, not without a satisfaction of religious kind, that no man who is not in the right, were he even a Napoleon I at the head of armed Europe, has any real might whatever, but will at last be found mightless, and to have done, or settled as a fixity, nothing at all, except precisely so far as he was not in the wrong. Abolition and erosion awaits all ‘doings’ of his, except just what part of them was right’’ (Clubbe 98–99).

>>17940845
sacrality precedes force. You have to both embody and forge the will of the community if you want to mobilize forces

>>17940845
I'm not mighty so therefore it's bad
If I was mighty then yes, everything I did, do, and will do was and continues to be justified

>>17940845
das right, my son.
>For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe.
>“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

>>17940845
You can't force me, so you're not right.

>>17940943
This is a good post. Most people are too stupid to understand the totality of any statement, let alone describing the nature of nature itself.

>>17940845
there is no such thing as "right"
there is only might, and without might, there is nothing

>>17940845
Maybe among apes.

>>17940861
>rage will explode one day
Just use your superior might to beat them down again. Always works unless you become week.

>>17940861
>that rage will explode one day
You mean they will use force to get what they want? Sounds like might is right to me

>>17940845
Right to what? Domesticate? Rule? Fuck?

Might=right doesn't lead towards stability cause there's always gonna be a young buck who thinks that he can overthrow you. What if I where to form a coalition of "weaker" men and decide to overthrow you and form a democracy?

>>17941530
Then you would be in the right dumbass. Might doesn't necessarily mean physical strength

>>17940870
Based

>>17940845
Damn, I was reading this comic by Alex yesterday, for the first time in years. This is "The lost legion", no?

>>17940845
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>>17941537
youre on 4chan don't pretend you know anything about might lmao

>>17940845
might can be used for harm, therefore might doesn’t make right. What the fuck is there to disprove when there is no argument except a three word phrase? And once you get to the point where you have to say a man raping little children is “right” just because he was the mightiest or something, I don’t even have to look at your argument (if you had one) because I can see your conclusion is wrong, therefore your argument must also be wrong.

>>17940943
Based.

>>17942425
fucking retard

Twinkies make ping pong, disprove it

https://blogs.ncl.ac.uk/davidrose/files/2013/10/Rousseau-might-is-right.pdf

>>17942409
>you're on 4chan therefore you don't know anything about might
>t. some guy on 4chan

>>17942448
Disprove me, nigger

>>17940870
That's a paradox.

>>17940845
it isn't right agree or ill beat you up until you agree

>>17942547
No, it isn’t.

>>17943732
If you say that might makes right and I say I'm stronger than you and I believe that might doesn't make right, then my might just made me right.

>>17940845
I lift my gun with my weak and scrawny arm and blow your head off your extremely muscular body. The gun is a product of mind, physics, manufacturing, economy, industry, but not of might. You lose and your brains trickle into the dirt. Checkmate.

>>17944312
>then my might just made me right.
That’s not might that made you right.

>>17940878
>Using semantics is philosophical
Your criticism is invalid.

>>17940871
That poor girl

>>17940845
Lol you only wait four minutes to post this thread in /his/ as well? Trying to evaluate which board is easier to bait?

>>17940845
Democracy has proved itself to be the mightiest system consistently so Democracy is right.

>>17940943
/thread

>>17944325
Might does not mean physical strength you retard

>>17942409
Post physique

>>17944676
oh nonononono

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>>17940845
Might does not make right but it is useless to be right if a nigger has more might than you

>>17940845
Justifies any given existing status quo, since every status quo is an expression of some form of might. Therefore, a useless concept.
/thread

>>17940845

The cathegorical imperative is self-evident, whoever denies it is just a victim of its own instincts. Also might makes right destroys any form of social contract, while ethics allow it.

>>17945661
>The cathegorical imperative is self-evident
If it were, you wouldn't need to argue for it.