/lit/ - Literature

>>18007568
Is*

>>18007568
You don't have any friends.

>>18007568

>>18007637
You're my friends

>>18007876
No we're not.

>>18007875
>Junger
Wasn't he against fascism?

>>18007893
That's exactly what a friend with an edgy and wicked sense of humor would say.

>>18007939
yeah, exactly, he was a reactionary

>>18007953
based

>>18007893
>No we're not.

>>18007953
Oof

>>18007876
I'm not friends with anyone who pretends to be a nazi.

>>18008008
facts, nothing worse than a phony

>>18008008
But I don't pretend to be a Nazi

>>18007875
Are these charts made for kids or something? Why include that /ourguys/ shit and a wojak?

>>18007953
based

>>18007875
>Junger
>/ourguy/
Is he really? Storm of Steel is great but didn't he reject offers to join the Nazi party several times after they came into power?

>>18007875
I really like that drawing at the bottom

>>18008071
>He and his brother Friedrich Georg quit the "Traditionsverein der 73er" (veteran's organization of the Hanoverian regiment they had served during World War I) when its Jewish members were expelled.[15]

Junger was based.

>>18007568
They unironically would. Goering loved fat jokes. Hitler would steal cake in the middle of the night. They used to make fun of Himmler for looking so ugly.

>>18008829
>They used to make fun of Himmler for looking so ugly
kek

>>18008829
Nononono people i dont like are thoughtless automotons with no personalities. Stop it!

>>18007875
>Milton Friedman
>Thomas Sowell
>The Bible
Amerimutt hands created this chart.

>>18007875
I'm a NatSoc, this shit makes me ashamed of being a part of this movement
s m h

>>18008992
Whats wrong with it?

>>18007875
This is so cringe. There’s honestly too much cringe here to even comprehend.
>Capitalism and Freedom
>Europa The Last Battle / TGSTNT
>Epic Wojak

>>18008050
Unironically I think so. Trying to get young teens on board with national socialism.

>>18008992
> I'm a NatSoc, this shit makes me ashamed of being a part of this movement
You’re a freak, all of you

>>18008992
>I'm a NatSoc
Question, why? I’m far right too but neo nazi shit is just pointless.
1. It gets you obsessive over Jooz instead of actual structural analysis(I don’t deny they have a lot of influence btw)and doing pointless shit like Holocaust denial(despite all the proof it happened- and even if it didn’t, you’ll never convince anyone so it’s still pointless)
2. No large amounts will take you seriously
3. It plays in directly to the narrative that anybody who’s pro white is a Nazi. Also all the “natsocs” I’ve met care more about apologizing for Hitler than actually being pro white.

>>18009052
>you gotta think about the optics
Enjoy being powerless

>>18009023
New season of Mr. Robot looking dope

>>18009076
I’m not an optics cuck. Just said that all the Hitler apologia is useless.

>>18007568
I mean the lgbtsjwtfnpc marxist cattle are going to call you a fascist for the crime of reading old books having opinions unapproved by corporate media or not wanting children to be molested so you start thinking gee can fascism really be all that bad?

>>18009170
This its no longer a question of left v right but one of the corporate monoculture with its leftist attack dogs v those who dare to disagree with it even on the slightest. In times of cultural marxism mrlerely to refuse to apologize for being white and straight amounts to a revolutionary act.

>>18007876
I have bad news for you.

>>18008997
The way it's presented is the cringiest thing I've ever seen
shit like /ourguys/ or a fucking wojak is the worst optics I've ever seen. This is the most laughable chart I've ever seen
>>18009023
not an argument
>>18009052
>It gets you obsessive over Jooz instead of actual structural analysis
I rarely think about jews, I mostly think about capitalism (and how shit it is), industrial society, and such
In fact I'm not that much of NatSoc, as I am an authoritarian anti-capitalist, who likes my blood (genos) and the deeds of my people. I could expand into another post my ideology.
>No large amounts will take you seriously
Much agreed, it's why I don't like talking politics to that many people.
>It plays in directly to the narrative that anybody who’s pro white is a Nazi.
If you are or aren't a nazi doesn't matter to these people. It's not even a cofirmation bias - they don't need a confirmation to think you're a nazi

>>18007939
It's complicated

>>18007568
These charts:
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>>18008023
are fucking retarded.

Here's mine:
Reflections on the Revolution in France - Burke
Propaganda - Bernays
The Phantom Public - Lippmann
The Culture of Narcissism - Lasch
Revolt of the Elites - Lasch
Society of the Spectacle - Debord
Technological Society - Ellul
One Dimensional Man - Marcuse
Simulacra and Simulation - Beaudrillard

>>18009250
Here's mine:
Third Positionists:
Julius Evola
Nicolás Dávila
Alasdair MacIntyre (more left-wing, but I still consider him to be a third)
Giovanni Gentile
Alain de Benoist (more right-wing, but I still consider him to be a third)
Francis Parker Yockey
Anthony Ludovici
Carl Schmitt
Mario Palmieri (I can only find one book of his and it's on Amazon)
Alfredo Rocco
José Antonio Primo de Rivera
Corneliu Cordenau
Edmondo Rossoni
Sergio Panunzio
Michel Aflaq
Juan Perón
Ramiro Ledesma Ramos
Giuseppi Bottai
Muammar Gaddafi (The Green Book)
Ugo Spirito
Antoun Saadeh
Raven Thompson
Onesimo Redondo
Georges Valois
Gottfried Feder
Gamal Abdel Nasser (a politician, but read his "Egypt's Liberation: The Philosophy of the Revolution")
Gregor Strasser
Otto Strasser
Plinio Salgado (Brazillian, don't know how hard it is to get in English)
Jean-François Thiriart
Adriano Romualdi
Corrado Gini
Giorgio Locchi
Enzo Erra
Giorgio Pisanó
Franco Freda
Georges Sorel
Thomas Carlyle
Giovani Papini

>>18009215
The wojak is because apparently the chart is from the murdoch murdoch website, which is a cartoon with natsoc themes where the characters are wojak variations (I think, never watched it)
And I tought the /ourguys/ list was pretty cool, shows many important figures which helped advance the movement towards what it is now (Although I have to admit it has seen better days)
If it makes more people know them or research about them, specially about more forgotten ones like Marinetti or Tomassi, then I'm ok with it.

As a racist and antisemite, I find all of this stuff incredibly gay and embarrassing. I disavow it all completely. When "dissident right" types try to appear more intellectual to compensate for their perceived reputation as morons, they only make themselves look sillier.

>>18009289
the whole chart is coma inducing.
You have Friedman (Jew) and Thomas Sowell (Black).
You have stoics, who are individualists, and advocate for a man to stay away from politics.
On the /ourguys/ list you have Breivik; guy who killed Norwegian children.
Also, no sign of Jonathan Bowden (pbuh), one of our best reactionaries in the last decades
>>18009343
The problem is: if you don't get a movement with a large following, then how shall we win?
But I completely agree, I'm not very fond of these types of people

>>18009343
Racism and antisemitism are not political systems lol

>>18008023
Fascism is a left wing ideology retard

>>18007875
I will fucking kill you, you fucking dog, fuck you little bitch, eat Breiviks gay dick after I rip it off his retarded faggot body. Fuck you and everyone who agree with this chart, if I ever personally meet one of you Breiviks sympathizers I will curbstomp your fucking skull.

>>18007875
Holy cringe

>>18009467
Left-Right is a false dichotomy created by the bourgeois. Reject it.

>>18007875
What kind of psychopath thinks someone who murdered 100 teenage kids is 'based' and '/ourguy/'? But yeah we're totally the good guys here fellow white nationalists.

>>18009522
Killing zoomers is alright in my book desu. Wish it would happen more often

>>18009535
Sincerely fuck you, you little bitch in front of your computer. Fuck you to fucking death, you piece of fucking shit, you should get your fucking tongue ripped out for being this fucking retarded, you fucking little worm.

>>18009552
you really shouldn't get this worked up by 4chan posts

>>18009552
Oh noes the next generation of norsecuck socialists has been decimated big fucking deal. Just replace them with some imported niggers and you'll be fine

>>18009522
Kek this.
There is better stuff out there than a literal psychopath mass murderer. Wignats are a plague.

>>18009552
nigger

>>18007939
He was against nationali socialism but believed in his own variation of the third position. He was close with Niekisch and basically a nazbol.

>>18007568
Reactionaries are the epitome of “nothing is wrong with me, it’s everyone else that has to change”. They are losers who point at everything else besides themselves as something that needs to be improved.

>>18009052
I agree. There's no point in identifying with national socialism.

>I am an authoritarian anti-capitalist, who likes my blood (genos) and the deeds of my people
Hey, that's basically what I am.

>>18009723
Actually anon 'personal responsibility' is a white supremacist fascist dogwhistle and I am very concerned to see you using such rhetoric

>>18009522
I agree with this too. You shouldn't glorify someone who killed a bunch of innocent children. Siegefags are the worst.

>>18007875
Whichever glownigger made that chart deserves a raise. Really cool aesthetics.

>>18009723
Both are narcissistic avenues.

>>18009738
That’s why reactionaries are hypocritical

>>18009495
Dilate.

>some people unironically support fascism

>>18009767
As cringe as online threats are, you don't have to be a tranny to dislike Breivik. What the guy did was monstrous. If he had gone after politicians or bankers, that would be one thing, but he didn't. He killed kids. Yes, they were at some sort of political youth camp but they were still innocent. People like him are disgusting and burdens to nationalist and racialist movements.

>>18009764
The only people who don't 'blame exterior sources' are maybe Nietzscheans or perhaps Randians or Stirnerites or something. Literally every other political orientation blames some form of elite or powerful interest for interfering in the lives of the people and abusing them.

This is not something particular to reactionaries, and they tend more towards bootstrap type self-reliance than eg. commies and progs who see oppression under every leaf and want to establish welfare or communal sharing.

>>18009782
seethe
>>18009784
Exactly, and it crushed any type of dissedent ideology in Norway

>>18009784
Have to be a leftist, tranny or nigger to sperg out about it and LITERALLY SHAKE when you're on 4chan.

>>18009784
>they were still innocent
That's where you're wrong. They were a product of that environment, nd as such had to be destroyed. The world is better off now. About a hundred votes less for whatever the socialist party is in Norway at least. Small steps

>>18008023
Good chart.

OP just read De Maistre and other Catholic thinkers. You can't be a proper reactionary without supporting the Church. The fascists were literally modernists who wanted to do away with Tradition.

>>18009795
Don't worry, you'll eventually grow out of it. ;)

>>18009807
Give me your address, I will eliminate you and any offspring you have made from the gene pool.

>>18009784
HIs manifesto has a whole bunch of stuff about poor white teenagers in Oslo being preyed on by Muslim and Leftist gangs who are backed by cops that crush any white gangs that try to form to protect themselves or retaliate.

It becomes rather obvious how he viewed his actions after reading those passages

>>18009845
I mean, if you think about it or was mercy killing really. They would have grown up to hate themselves for being white or something. He did them a favour actually

>>18009784
He went the youth of a political party, future politicians and bankers, so there was logic to what he was doing. He wanted to destroy the next generation.

>>18009885
You're proud of your skin color, because there is nothing else about you, to be proud of.

>>18009902
That doesn't justify it though, it's still murdering innocent children. I understand why he chose the target, to make their parents suffer because he believes them to be hostile occupying regime on his people, but it's still basically evil behavior, it's like commies saying they were justified murdering the children of the Russian Tsar, simply leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

>>18009903
Well at least I got to the adult age. Not much of an accomplishment maybe but those commie kids didn't even get that

>>18009918
Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children

>>18009926
unironically yes, it is a very low bar to include 'not murdering children' in your ethics

>>18009903
>race is only skin deep

>>18009903
That's a COPE.

>>18009932
Au contraire, it is paramount to prevent the next generation of brainwashed zealots from becoming an even bigger problem than their parents. One should start with the children

>>18009920
>>18009934
>>18009935
Seething racists, keep it coming, üntermensch

>>18009945
Seems more like you are the only one here seething about some commie kids who got what they deserved

>>18009945
not an argument, try again fucktard

>>18009918
>That doesn't justify it though
Justification is subjective.
But sure, I agree with you, I think murdering kids is abhorent, even if they are leftists that will flood Europe with more darkies.

>>18009932
>NOOOO you are supposed to play according to the rules! You HAVE to draw your line at killing children! It's wrong because... b-because it just is ok?!

>>18009971
>It's wrong because... b-because it just is
that is in fact how it works yes

>>18009845
Are you seriously implying any of these right wing cucks have or will ever feel the touch of a woman?

>>18009978
Very compelling. Too bad based brevik didn't get the memo. Better luck next time kids

>>18009903
Why do only white people have to be undet this narrow individualist lens?

>>18007568
>burke
>inklings (lewis, williams, tolkien)
>t.s. eliot
>g.k. chesterton
>george macdonald
>ernst junger (specifically his post war work)
my personal recommendations for your basic run of the mill christian, plus junger (I love junger)
eco is also good if you're just interested in the medievalist aspect of his work and borges too, not for any political reason but because you should read them

>>18009263

>>18009981
It wasn't my intention, but I wanted to make the exception clear, on the off chance one of them found an equally brain dead woman to fornicate with.

>>18009981
are you really unaware that left wing people have fewer children than right wing people

>>18009999
THE BOG GOT FUCKING QUADS
ITS RIGGED

>>18010005
Ah yes thank you. Now we are all aware that as we'll keep making fun of leftist children being slaughtered by the dozen you will be there trembling with impotent rage at home. Watch out chuds

>>18009981
t. childless
>>18009999
BOGDANOFF
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>18007568
>>18009996
I forgot for the american audience
>wendell berry
the unsettling of america
>gene logsdon
the contrary farmer
>edward abbey
desert solitaire
>washington irving
rip van winkle
these are specifically for the landscape-focused/ecologically reactionary/comfy american

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>>18010011
>>18010031

Nationalist liberal here, why is it so hard for people to love their country without worshiping the government? The state is not the nation.

>>18010088
>Nationalist
>liberal
who's gonna tell him

>>18009981
I have a gf and I've had a few before this one. We are both racist.

>>18009811
What Church? Pope Francis is even more of a left-wing faggot than the pundits on CNN. De Maistre and other Catholics (I'm thinking especially of Chesterton) are well worth reading, but the TraditionalChurch is on the fucking ropes.

>>18010100
civic nationalism does exist, it's retarded but it's a real thing

>>18010139
I know, pic rel

>>18010100
>>18010139
I am not a civic nationalist, as a nation is an ethnic group, ethnic nationalism is the only valid kind. You can be a liberal ethnic nationalist.

>>18010196
"The Nation is to us, above all, a moral entity, shaped over centuries and through the labor and solidarity of the successive generations, linked by affinities of blood and spirit, and to which, we could very well believe, is providentially attributed a specific mission in human history. Only by the weight of countless sacrifices, by common and united struggle, by shared identity and genesis, only by that collective patrimony, only by that spiritual communion is one morally grounded in his duty to serve the Nation and give one's life for it. Everything for the Nation, nothing against the Nation."
~
Are you a capitalist? The metabolic process, where the Earth and natural resources are metabolized to be turned into money? If not, what type of liberalism do you believe in?

Me on the left

>>18009250
>no hobbes
>Debord
This is just a leftshit list + Burke

>>18007875
>Breivik
I guess the glowie who made that chart forgot that he was/is a freemason and a zionist

>>18010268
>Are you a capitalist?

In the sense that I believe people should be free to start a business and attempt to improve their situation. I don't believe non citizens or foreign companies should be allowed to own land or property within the nation though. I believe taxes and other policies should favor small local businesses over large or international ones.

> what type of liberalism do you believe in?

I think the government should generally confine itself to protecting the rights of citizens and defending the ethnic, environmental and territorial integrity of the nation state from invasions, migration etc.

>>18010385
>In the sense that I believe people should be free to start a business and attempt to improve their situation. I don't believe non citizens or foreign companies should be allowed to own land or property within the nation though. I believe taxes and other policies should favor small local businesses over large or international ones.
I completely agree, but that's not capitalism; it's a semi-free market. Semi, since you wouldn't want international capital going around.
>I think the government should generally confine itself to protecting the rights of citizens
I believe that would get us to where we are now, a nihilistic, senseless society, where it's citizens only ask for rights and don't have duties.
>and defending the ethnic, environmental and territorial integrity of the nation state from invasions, migration etc.
we can agree on that

>>18010448
I dunno man, I like my local independent farm shop where I can literally go pet cows in the herd my dinner came from then go catch some fish in their lake, guess i'm a localist really.

>>18008851
I'm surprised they made fun of his looks, not his /x/-tier interests. If he were alive today he would be hanging out with the Q-anon shaman.

>>18010520
>I dunno man, I like my local independent farm shop where I can literally go pet cows in the herd my dinner came from then go catch some fish in their lake, guess i'm a localist really.
Also what I have in mind. In what I've idealized (and still very much up for debate) the state would force people out of the cosmopolitan centres (yes, like Pol Pot) but instead of it (state) being a genocidal maniac, it would build small villages all across the country and people would become more community oriented, while being self-sufficient.

>>18009807
Kek dance monkey. Dance!

>>18007875
>the selfish gene

>>18009250
>charts are fucking retarded
Still better than anything the actual far-right comes up with. Or any political group, come to think of it.
Parties and movements should just pay /lit/ to write their theory for them. Like a mercenary company of 4G warfare.

>>18010638
reminder that dawkins is a pedo

>>18010645
>the actual far-right comes up with
look at my list >>18009263

>>18010654
It's pretty obvious that Dawkins is rationalizing things that happened to him at his boarding school

>>18007568
Idk about core reactionaryism, but you'd probably wanna go with Ivan Ilyn's Doctrine of Hegel and Resistance to Evil by force given that he was literally an Orthodox right winger reacting to the Bolsheviks. As for a right wing reading list(That's not retarded):

- What is Political Philosophy, On Machiavelli, and Natural Rights and History by Leo Strauss
- Thomism and Aristotelianism by Harry Jaffa(Second rate Straussian desu)
- The Spirit of Modern Republicanism by Pangle(1st rate Straussian imo)
- Nicomachean Ethics and Politics by Aristotle
- The Prince and the Discourses by Machiavelli
- The Leviathan by Hobbes
- Reflections on the Revolution in France by Burke
- The French Revolution: A History by Carlyle
- Phenomenology of Spirit and Philosophy of Right by Hegel
- Unto this Last by John Ruskin
- The Doctrine of Hegel Volumes 1 & 2 and Resistance to Evil by Force by Illyin
- Decline of the West Volumes 1 & 2 and Prussianism and Socialism by Spergler
- Concept of the Political and Political Theology by Schmitt
- Heidegger's political writings
- Conservatism, Soul of the World and On Human Nature by Scruton
- On Virtue by Macintyre
- On China and World Order by Kissinger
- The collected writings of TS Elliot

I probably missed a couple, probably.

>>18007568
>>18007875
>>18008023
>reactionary
>mostly about a revolutionary ideology (fascism)
Based retards.

>>18010663
That was my point. You made a better list than any far-right organization or representative I've seen outside of /lit/.

>>18010654
I thought Salon was pro pedo