/lit/ - Literature

/pol/, contrarianism, and shitposting.
Just like the rest of this godawful site

>>18019851
/lit/ grew up.

The story goes like this: /lit/ is captured by a newfag singularity as election immigration and peterson popularity lock into crossboard take-off. Terminally absentee techno-janitor inactivity crumbles board order in pseudo-intellectual shitpost runaway. As governments learn to manufacture quarantine, posting-rate skyrockets, downgrades quality, and tries to get a grip.

>reddit (specifically /r/the_donald after it was banned) floods /pol/
>nu/pol/ users (at this point >=25% newfag redditors) begin migrating every other boards, particularly those with some topical overlap with /pol/ (/lit/, /his/, /biz/ etc.)
that's it.
this guy >>18019885 beat me to it.

>>18019851
Mein Kampf is on the fake one.
The Bible rightfuly is always on the top 10

>>18019893
Bible isn't literature

>>18019851
Different voting system tard

>>18019899
Why yes, you’re absolutely correct.
It’s a literature COMPENDIUM

>>18019908
Nah. As literature alone it's pretty shit. Bible doesn't work without divine influence and isn't trying to anyway

>>18019851
lets not think that the top one is any better

>>18019851
2019 was a great list, been working my way thru it

>>18019851
Right-wing politics are ruining the internet

>>18019851
The fact that Mein Kampf is on top of the Bible is a proof of the manipulation of religion by the Alt Right. They dont believe in God, but just want to be "based" and contrarian to liberals.

>>18019932
RIght-wing politics, or at least white identitarianism, is banned on half the internet. Twitter, facebook, reddit, and youtube have purged most of their identitarian and nationalist communities. This is why tech censorship is such a big issue. If they can't let us get the message out, we can't reach the people who need to hear it.

>>18019964
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>18019877
Developing cancer cells isn’t growing up.

>>18019932
Right wing politics literally only exist on 4chan. Go pretty much anywhere else and you will never hear from a chud again.

>>18019985
Why do leftists use the word chud as an insult? I really don't understand it. When has a right-winger actually been offended by that? Aren't insults meant to be hurtful? Leftist communities ban all sorts of slurs but I've never heard of any right-wing community banning the usage of the word chud. It's just some random 80s horror movie.

>>18019964
cry some more white bitch

>>18019851
The world changed.

>>18019877
this but unironically

>>18019956
Christianity is fundamentally incompatible with the European soul.

>>18020025
If by European soul you mean White supremacy or Nazism, then yes, but Christianity is universal, for Jews, whites, blacks, natives, etc.

>>18019999
>Why do leftists use the word chud as an insult? I really don't understand it. When has a right-winger actually been offended by that? Aren't insults meant to be hurtful?
rightwingers created tons of catchy insults like trannie and nigger.
Chud is a catchy term but not an insult. Is just some random thing like saying to somebody you are so "isdnadof".
In their psychology (and it holds some true) they think can create a meme out of thin air, that if make rightwingers mad repeating a random word then they can transform the random word in an insult against rightwingers.

It's simple as that. Humans continue their warfare through memetic means.
Insults, derogatory terms, mythification, anti-mythification (making somebody look bad), are just all tools of human warfare.

>>18019956
>proof of the manipulation of religion by the Alt Right
>>>/reddit/

>>18019851
Empires rise, empires fall.

>>18019999
Lefty insults are so weird, like anyone would care about being called a chud or lumpen or some shit

>>18019889
>>reddit (specifically /r/the_donald after it was banned) floods /pol/
>>nu/pol/ users (at this point >=25% newfag redditors) begin migrating every other boards, particularly those with some topical overlap with /pol/ (/lit/, /his/, /biz/ etc.)

If you think Reddit users, even on The Zognald, would approve of MK, you are a massive retard.

>>18020007
Despite you cussing at me, I will still oppose the extermination of you people after we win. It's called empathy. You should try it.

You're yearning for meaning and sex. Back in 2014 you were still young, relatively unjaded by the PC left and still hopeful that someday you may lose your virginity

>>18019880
cool

>>18019999
I'm not a leftist, I just use it ironically. My friends and I refer to each other as chuds because it sounds funny.

>sup chud
>not much chud how you doin

>>18019982
Shut the fuck up and piss out your fucking birth canal you fucking dipshit pussy turd

>>18020058
Peterson has already been refuted by this brilliant woman, please cease posting his image

>>18019851
We got trolled by some /pol/ retards.
Who cares

>>18020075
How long do you think she will last? I'll give her 3 years. 4 max.

>>18019889
The actual truth is that redditors, discord users, /leftypol/ and such saw /lit/ and /his/ as easy boards to subvert and set up as left-wing colonies. However, they didn't realize that a large percentage of this board would get annoyed with the obvious shilling and a lot of nazi shitposting is the obvious side-effect. It's been really bad for the past half year or so but I'm sure in a few more months this board will be back to normal.

>>18020075
>contrapoints gets sexually assaulted
>the guy who did it becomes trans
>now contra can't do anything about it

i'm literally rolling on the floor chudding.

I don't understand liberals. How can they be so fanatical in their beliefs when their beliefs are inherently lame (i.e. equal rights, throwing your race under the bus, etc.) Does their intensity just come from wanting to be smarter than everyone else? Any literature to help me understand this phenomenon?

>>18020015
>>18019877
You must be at least 18 to post here.

>>18019851
when are we going to make a poll regarding this chart this year?

>>18019964
They're only censoring legitimately harmful disinformation like QAnon retardation.
Or is that what passes for right-wing politics these days?

>>18019851
It’s because some retard always takes the list and puts Kampf and the Bible on top.

>>18020161
Qanon retardation? Its literally fact.

>>18020161
No, they're also censoring white nationalists, immigration restrictionists, white advocates, paleocons, critics of queer theory (particularly the trans stuff), fascists, and even neoreactionaries.

>>18020186
Qanon is bullshit, dude. It's a psyop to distract boomers from the real issues, rally support around Trump for 2020, and present the right with a false, non-racialist alternative to the establishment conservatives.

>>18020186
Anon...

>>18019851
Camus was a nazi and Infinite Jest is about as good as the Bible

holy CRAP..is that..INFINITE JEST in the number one spot?? /lit/ really used to be a true hot spot of intellectualism. imagine what could have been...vgh..

>>18020091
>watch holywood movie where the cool guy protagonist likes equal rights and throwing your race under the bus
>wow this is so cool i want to be a hero like him!

>>18019932
being right wing is against the rules on 99% of social media

>>18019851
Reddit went thought police.

>>18020199
>>18020201
Wrong

>>18019851
Most of the actual readers left. /r9k/ and /pol/ took over.

>>18020025
go to bed, Varg.

>>18020075
thats a dude

>>18020263
Even if he was alive, could he have fought it? I have to wonder how many of these tech oligarchs really even give a shit and how many are being pressured by the government and various NGOs.

>>18020265
Where did they go?

>>18020281
Shes British

>>18019851
Phone posting

>>18020287
never mind "could", the way I've seen culture evolve over the last decade, the question is WOULD he still stand up for free speech even if it means allowing things he didn't like? ive seen many a people get uneasy about this in the last decade as the younger generation grew up and became invested in politics and culture and realized that allowing their values to be challenged openly is easier said then done when you have a great interest in enforcing your values on reality. free speech seems like a nice platitude for children that goes out the window once you realize how much is at stake

>>18019851
the stranger is incredibly overrated

trannies happened

>>18019885
nah, this site just gets more mainstream every year so it gets invaded with more irony-poisoned retards who have to make everything a meme (especially "best X of all time" polls)

>>18020333
Indeed, I don't get people who rate it as one of the best books in the world, it's not even the best Camus book.
Also nice trips, checked

>>18020296
>She
Nice copium

>>18019899
>

>>18019877
This. Libs and idpol leftists seething.

>>18020328
Very true. Btw does anyone have any idea on how to solve the problem of tech censorship? I don't see a clear path forward.

>>18020359

>>18019956
>>18019932
Who are you impressing? Your professor, your manager and that hipster girl you like aren't able to see your IP address here, you know?

>>18019851
The Stranger was fucking #2 in 2014? Lmao people were retarded then huh?

>>18020358
>yfw hitler wasa the ultimate idpolitican

>>18020042
Lumpenprole is actually based though. If you want to hit "leftists" where it hurts, call them radlibs, lumpenproles, baizuo and generally draw attention to the fact that they serve capital and are completely against the interests of anyone who isn't Jewish and has a net worth of less than several million dollars. Most importantly, modern western "leftists" pointless oppose their own interests. Anyone who seemingly opposes their own interests is either secretly benefiting in some undisclosed way or is a victim of brainwashing.

You’re all welcome for making this board better btw

>>18020394
You know what I meant, you self-hating coward. Support your own interests, you benefit in no way from behavior and if you don't believe in a god, I suppose you don't need to fear burning forever in racist hell if you don't pretend to help muh poor distressed minorities.

>>18020359
I really dont think there is any way out at this point. the only real possible positive outcome I can see is is some sort of very ideologically radicalized "good guys" win out over society and have a massive influence on culture that maintains their values for multiple generations, and the only censorship that happens is being done by "good guys" according to those values so nothing of value is lost and "good people" can live their lives normally without any sort of negative impact of the censorship, and probably a massive positive impact

this of course is either great or completely dystopian according to your own values and whether the people in power are "good guys" or "bad guys" to you

>>18020406
Too much work. Rather just bitch about it the same way fat girls would rather bitch about beauty standards than get their lard asses to a gym.

'oh no peterson almost makes value statements from scientific observations, JBP debooonked hihi I'm trans bitchhhh'

Classic youtube midwit. Popular channels need someone with about an SD above the plebs to be succesful. Lots of 100 IQ retards listening to this 120 IQ midwit. Cringe that you take that seriously

>>18020102
dial8, you tranny nigger

>>18020511
dubs don't lie

Russian and Chinese bots stirring the pot. Mental illness unrestrained. General lack grounded reality, post-truth, etc.

>>18019867
Pol happened because the world happened fag

>>18019877
/thread
It would be surprising if the top books stayed the same.
Of course, lefty degenerates are going to reeee at anything that doesn't conform to their delicate and inverted sensibilities.

>>18019880
Thanks

>>18020161
Thank you big tech, for freeing my mind from legitimately harmful disinformation. If not for your proactive prevention, i might have been made into a conspiracy theorist through no fault of my own.

>>18020566
You do know this is a troll image in the OP, right?

>>18019877
Underage detected

>>18019932
Where are they even allowed? Most of the shit people call right wing is just rude liberals.

>>18020555
>post-truth
>he thinks the "moral righteousness" of simping for random minority groups is an objective truth
Embrace moral non-cognitivism, friend.

>>18019893
Mein Kampf was the most voted one

>>18020595
Doesn't change what I said butters. Go away now.

>>18020622
>Doesn't change what I said

damn not gonna lie Infinite Jest changed my life. But then again, so did Mein Kampf.

>>18019851
Infinite Jest legitimately fucking sucks tho

>>18020075
I wish he'd bring back his goatee, the 5 O'clock shadow is distracting.

>>18020088
Actually?

>>18020328
>free speech seems like a nice platitude for children that goes out the window once you realize how much is at stake
What gutless cowards fail to realize is there's more at stake by throwing it out the window.

>>18019877
If only they actually grew up

>>18020893
If only

>>18020899
If only

>>18020904
If only

>>18020411
Fight those ghosts you pathetic fascist

>>18019851
What happened was the most powerful force in the world, producing an unstoppable force to emerge.

I’m talking of course about incel seethe, and pure, unadulterated cringe

>>18020533
Based

>>18020906
>>18020904
>>18020899
>>18020893
Mind posting some arguments underlying your first principles? I'd love to hear how Irish nationalism fits into whatever you think you believe.
>>18020910
That took a long time to write. Nice job larping as that character you like on Netflix who always has good lighting and emotional music behind him. Do you you happen to have an argument in support of your beliefs though?
By the way, I do not apply a value of "bad" to the word "Fascist" and so that is not an efficient ad hominem. Try again.

>>18020929
Seeth

>>18020943
One day you'll be in the shower when you suddenly you realize your beliefs are not your own and were planted in your head by people who hate you. I do not hate you though, for I once was you. There are those who love you unconditionally, anon. You will not be thrown from arms purely because of your false and baseless beliefs.

>>18020957
>One day you'll be in the shower when you suddenly you realize your beliefs are not your own and were planted in your head by people who hate you.
And I’m sure this totally doesn’t apply to you

>>18020981
I'm not a Republican, no. None of my beliefs are valuable to the ruling class.

>>18020957
A least I read Malatesta's considerations of determinism vs indeterminism, and can notice that Hitler's schizo dribble is subpare reasoning even for an autobiography, let alone a philosophical justification.

>I was once you
Shut your cunty little hitlerite mouth, you don't know shit about me

>>18020992
That doesn’t mean they’re not valuable to someone who could be the ruling class, and that someone certainly won’t be you

>>18020929
Also, "fascism" had neutral connotations, if it's the case that you could read. What had negative connotations is "pathetic" but, presuming you're a fascist, you're probably too illiterate to actually read anything, so you just see "fascist" and think "yes daddy natsocs, I am big man. We hurt commie now?"

>>18020996
I think you can definitely learn from Mein Kampf, but you can also learn from the State and Revolution or a decent biography of Ho Chi Minh or Mao Zedong. Once again, your speculations fall flat.

>>18020957
>your beliefs are not your own
My belief is that you're pathetic

>>18021006
Right, but did you? Because your posts tell me you definitely didn’t

>>18020839
lol gutless cowards? how quaint, and as i said, childish this sentiment is. they're very effectively shaping popular culture and stomping us into submission, theyre on the offensive and winning, not cowering. once the masses are successfully drawn sufficiently into one direction via the flow of information and popular sentiment there is no law or social construct in the world that can hold back their stampede, everyone who knows history should know this by now. if liberal radicalization continues the way its been going not even the US constitution will stop hate speech laws from effectively being enforced because there will be such an overwhelming popular backlash against the first amendment that it wont even be viable to enforce, the masses will DEMAND speech be controlled the way they want it to be, and this is exactly the type of situation free speech creates in the first place. the only way to win is to go on the offensive by controlling the narrative with censorship and religion etc. and effectively steering the masses down a better path.

>>18021006
I've read fupa boys struggle. It's trash.

>>18021002
I think you know as well as I do that your beliefs are far less of a threat to the rich and powerful than mine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_capitalism
https://www.chron.com/business/article/Tyson-Foods-charged-with-smuggling-illegal-workers-2071829.php
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/13/corporate-feminism-gives-us-vagina-candles-and-empowerment-hotels-but-all-i-want-is-equal-rights
Point me to my bootlicking.

>>18021013
Why don't you guys present an argument? If you're not going to actually try to debate against someone, why say anything at all?

>>18021027
>Inb4 seething nazi can't give us the etimology of "barbarian"

>>18020296
Actually above average for a British chick desu

>>18021035
Is that why Trump, the literal president of the US, refused to condemn you guys after Charlottesville? Is that why Tucker Carlson repeats many of your talking points?

>>18021058
>wow the meme president refused to condemn some of his power base, this is proof that corporate interests do not benefit from an atomized working class

not him but im really not sure what you are going for here

>>18021058
Trump? The Zionist who let the same man out of prison who threatened to kill his supporters? No, I don't support Trump. As for Tucker, his behavior is a mystery to me, but I respect him for criticizing the hypocrisy of Israel and the ADL, though he generally peddles a very weak civic nationalism that bores me. Enjoy being on the same side of history as Wall Street and Hollywood.
https://youtu.be/h0e4QjoJ4wc?t=1060

>>18021031
>lol gutless cowards?
Lol yes, gutless cowards faggot.
> they're very effectively shaping popular culture and stomping us into submission, theyre on the offensive and winning,
Yeah that's my point retard. Because cowards cave to their bullshit.
> not even the US constitution will stop hate speech laws
No shit, the US constitution is a peace of fucking paper. Read Spooner.
> and this is exactly the type of situation free speech creates in the first place. the only way to win is to go on the offensive by controlling the narrative with censorship and religion etc. and effectively steering the masses down a better path.
>If nobody bans beliefs, they'll ban our beliefs, so we have to ban their beliefs first
Holy fuck that's genius and can only end well. I take back everything I said, please run the planet you mouth-breathing reprobate.

>>18020357
The Bible has no artistic merit, lasting or otherwise.

>>18021091
>muh purity test
God, nazis are fucking pathetic. You’re like religious fundamentalists, but with an even bigger insistence on virginity

>>18021204
holy fuck you are idiotic, these arent "cowards caving to their bullshit", they are ideologically radicalized people out for blood and using the tools at their disposal to get it

>No shit, the US constitution is a peace of fucking paper

so what are you suggesting exactly? as i said and you seem to agree, no law or social contract will stop the masses once they are whipped into a frenzy, so how will you stop them from being whipped into a frenzy? appealing to their logic through good intention ed dialogues? fucking lmao

>>18021219
nice projections, tranny.

>>18021226
And how will you stop your side from being whipped up into a frenzy? Do you think that two sides, being increasingly locked in a cycle of mutual reinforcement and vicious hatred will somehow create a stable society?

See this is the problem with you guys, you orgasm over a civilization that you demonstrably couldn’t maintain for five minutes, without it degenerating into a fucking civil war. Do you seriously think people will take kindly to turning the country into a different version of North Korea?

>>18020691
Hard disagree

Can you imagine being the side of TRANNIES and not reevaluating your choices?

Really imagine it. You look around you and there are fucking TRANNIES in your group. And you don't think "holy shit I must have gone wrong somewhere." Imagine what kind of person it takes to look around and see TRANNIES and think "looks good to me."

>>18019885
/lit/ was moderated by the most aggressive leftist thought policer of all time back in 2013 and earlier. They would ban you for even making a slightly misogynistic joke. As soon as he fucked off, the board organically came majority right wing. Tripfag density is also negatively correlated with right wing discourse, for what it's worth.

No one disputes that election tourists and culture war zoomers are cancer. But whiny pussies need to go to a different site if they don't want to see viewpoints they don't like.

>>18020186
2/5

>>18021254
There is literally nothing wrong with being transsexual

>>18019851
Ignoring the rest of the books on those lists, the bottom is better than the top. Wallace and Camus, really? The Bible is obviously better, and Mein Kampf could be interpreted as more interesting.

However I understand that if looked at as an ideological symptom, then yes it would be a bad thing.

>>18021245
>And how will you stop your side from being whipped up into a frenzy?
you dont
>two sides
no

>>18019930
I'm always disappointed by how low Faust is on it.

>>18019976
>>18020007
>>18020161
Just skip the coping process and rope yourself.

>>18020058
Jokes on you nigger, I'm headed to Vegas tomorrow and I'm gonna get laid.

>>18020075
>"Woman"

>>18021245
>two sides, being increasingly locked in a cycle of mutual reinforcement and vicious hatred
so liberal democracy like America where everyone is "tolerant" which breeds massive cultural differences and pits people against each other constantly and viciously along these lines? to the point where generic "sides" are being drawn and groups of both sides are forming mobs and attacking each other in the streets once and a while?

>>18019851
4chan was always the mirror of the subaltern discourse of the modern west.

Provocative flaunting of right-wing takes is also usually the reaction to overbearing lukewarm lefty politics flooding a site where these lefty takes are not safeguarded from criticism by tight moderation. 4chan will never not be opposed to the mainstream, it will never not do anything it takes to make redditshit and twittershit go away so long as mods don't go full reddit and delete anyone who does not fit their particular vision.

>>18021219
>religious fundamentalism
At least religious fundamentalists have a several thousand year old book on which to base their fundamentalism. You base your moralism not merely on feelings, but on feelings implanted in your head by billion-dollar corporations and the government. Your values flow from the top down, ours flow from the bottom up. As for your interest in other people's sexual preferences, I hope your contradiction there is obvious.

>>18021343
>so liberal democracy like America where everyone is "tolerant" which breeds massive cultural differences and pits people against each other constantly and viciously along these lines?
I don’t remember the average Democrat ever advocating the genocide of anyone they disagree with. Maybe some turbo SJW out on the margins, but this isn’t a stated goal of liberal democracy, which is of course far from perfect, but is still preferable to ideologies which have as one of their stated goals the genocide of entire populations they don’t like.

But I’m sure you’ll have some excuse lined up why one Nation of Islam goofball = literally everyone to the left of Mussolini. That’s one of the ironies of Nazism, one of the few people you could be compared to are types like Louis Farrakhan. In fact, I’m surprised I’ve never been referred to as a white uncle Tom

>>18020562
pol happened because literally NO place wants those losers. When even twitter, reddit, facebook, etc call the retarded Qucks out constantly and are banned repeatedly... what do you do? You go LARP as normal people on pol.

>>18021215
Its influenced can be seen in the entire canon.

>>18020566
Imagine being so triggered by trannies and the world hating your conservative cuck lifestyle you have to claim it THE OTHER SIDEEREEEEE!!!!! that is delicate or has pathetic child like sensibilities.

>>18021417
>You base your moralism not merely on feelings, but on feelings implanted in your head by billion-dollar corporations and the government.
Yes, I’m sure capitalist mega corporations hate and abhor the idea of obedience
>Your values flow from the top down, ours flow from the bottom up.
Again, one of your main spokesmen is Tucker Carlson. Is a heir to a food empire part of ‘the bottom’ now? Lol you people are utterly fucking delusional, but I’m sure he’s not ‘real’ enough for you, because he’s actually smart enough to keep his white robes in the closet

>>18021433
That’s because most of the artists from that canon lived under their rule. When that collapsed, the influence evaporated. Almost like the two are related or something

I vote Mein Kampf just to annoy people never read it and never will.

>>18021439
We've witnessed in real time as ideas flow from /pol/ to Twitter and eventually to people like Tucker Carlson and Charlie Kirk. They desperately want us to support them instead of abandoning the GOP and Trump plantation for a grassroots movement.
With left-wing phenomena, like BLM or the anti-racist crowd, the phenomena start with the corporations and you can watch in real-time as the mobs hear what they're supposed to believe.
As for obedience, I obey only my own interests.

>>18021436
you mean like the people here complaining about right wing lit being in the top 100?

>>18021462
https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/bruce-jenner-im-woman/story?id=30570350
Remember this?

>>18021462
>With left-wing phenomena, like BLM or the anti-racist crowd, the phenomena start with the corporations
No, sorry, it did the same thing that your ‘movement’ did: it was genuine plights being channeled first by interest groups towards ideological enemies, then getting hijacked by big business to make a buck. The fact that you can’t see this happened to you as well is very telling. It’s just that hijacking BLM is probably a better idea, since progressivism doesn’t literally state as one of its main goals the extermination of entire groups of peoples. Besides that, most of these corporations don’t give a fuck about any of this besides generating profits

>>18021425
>but this isn’t a stated goal of liberal democracy
it literally is though, freedom of thought, diversity of ideas and a diverse society pitted against each other for supremacy, that is literally the stated goal of liberal democracy; a permanently atomized working class that is too busy fighting each other to effectively challenge any sort of power structure, where people are not even able to act in their own best interests via the very democratic process they endorse because they have to act out of their immediate fear of being strategically dominated through that process by the others

>>18021487
As stated, the corporations are hesitant and often unable to hijack our talking points. The voice of the "alt-right" is the genuine undiluted voice of the people. Also, I suggest reading the link I posted here >>18021475 and thinking about how the course of the "discussion" around gender identity through the last 5 years.

>>18019877
seems like the reverse

>>18021495
>a permanently atomized working class that is too busy fighting each other to effectively challenge any sort of power structure, where people are not even able to act in their own best interests via the very democratic process they endorse because they have to act out of their immediate fear of being strategically dominated through that process by the others
Why are you against freedom of speech and democracy then, while at the same time being in favor of capitalism? Do you seriously think that those in power will never use the ‘race traitor’ stuff on you when you don’t lick their boots enough?

Holy shit, I hate the current corporate hegemony too, but you’re like someone who wants to cure AIDS with cancer

>>18021487

not him but whats more telling to me is your inability to recognize that this isn't about "making a buck" off of trends, but actually planting and fostering retarded trends and strategically dividing the working class and playing them against each other through comically retarded and pointless debate over so called progressive social issues we shouldn't even be having

>>18021487
>progressivism doesn’t literally state as one of its main goals the extermination of entire groups of peoples
Yes it does, just slowly.

>>18021498
>As stated, the corporations are hesitant and often unable to hijack our talking points.
Yes, because your talking points are far too retarded to hijack. They also tend to not use the manifestos of school shooters and schizo serial killers, maybe they’re being secretly oppressed as well

https://observer.com/2014/03/gay-marriage-a-cause-whose-time-has-come/
Paul Singer, pro-Israel and pro-gay activist, is probably almost single handed responsible for shifting the GOP towards being pro-gay marriage. Remember, the GOP says that Islam is bad only because they hate Jews and gays.

>>18021507
>but actually planting and fostering retarded trends and strategically dividing the working class and playing them against each other through comically retarded and pointless debate over so called progressive social issues we shouldn't even be having
Then why the fuck do you support a right wing ideology that simps for mega corporations at every single opportunity it gets? You claim all of this shit, but then never support health care reforms, an overhaul of the fucked up debt system, unionizing, etc. When all of that shit happens, you people are the first to call that stuff ‘commie shit’. Wonder why Tucker likes you guys so much

>>18020161
>legitimately
>harmful
>disinformation
How come the entirety of liberal media hasn't been censored then?

>>18019851
Holy fuck, /lit/ was insanely cringe back in '14

>>18021516
Why do you combine all conservatives together to create a boogeyman that holds all positions and none simultaneously?

>>18021506
because there is literally no other economic option beyond capitalism? what exactly are you suggesting I opt for? im not stupid enough to believe a communist revolution will ever actually result in a different economic system so what is it you want from me?

>>18021520
Because you keep voting for those same conservatives. I never see any action against anything having to do with capitalism, or anything other than surface level critiques. Your own actions speak far more than any of your faggy memes

>>18021516
..i literally believe is universal healthcare, overhauling the appalling debt system, and collective bargaining through workers guilds mate, these are among the absolute core tenants of my beliefs. maybe try talking to me and not the straw man that only exists in your head

>>18021527
And you keep voting for AOC and posting "yaaas queen!" on twitter. Oh wait, that's not you, that's billions of people who identify as leftists who I would be a retard to lump in with you. Actually that probably is you, but you get my point.

Anyway, you're clearly 18 and more interested in fighting internet culture wars against strawmen than discussing. You'd probably feel better if you went and watched another Vaush video though.

https://counter-currents.com/tag/breaking-the-bondage-of-interest/

>>18021522
>because there is literally no other economic option beyond capitalism?
This is literally the capitalist realism you will get from anyone at Goldman Sacks, good job.

See, this is why no one takes you people seriously as ‘revolutionaries’, because when it cones down to actual change, you don’t want to change shit. You’re just pissed at Raykwan for fucking your tradwife

>>18021527
So you'd support us if we created a new party with an economic policy like that described by >>18021528?
Great to know, friend. Welcome to the team.

>>18021541
>racemixing BBC mentioned
Twitter leftist right on cue
>no one takes you people seriously as ‘revolutionaries’
You took them pretty seriously last time the communist and capitalist powers had to ally to barely stop them

>>18021263
Is this mod thing actually true? I was on /lit/ back then and I don't remember it. Maybe I just didn't notice?

>>18021534
I don’t even live in America so that’s completely impossible. Regardless though, what you’re showing here is almost universal: radical traditiontards are just interested in surface level bullshit, and don’t want to change jackshit about the actual power structures. That’s why mega corporations will probably move on from SJW cuck shit to courting idiots like you, while relabeling it ’tranditionalist corporatism’ or something, to keep up the plausible deniability.

>>18021541
Capitalist realism, you say?
https://therightstuff.biz/2020/05/28/hyperpodcastism-capitalist-realism-w-keith-woods-and-alex-mcnabb/
Might I interest you in Keith Woods and Borzoi Boscovic?

>>18021541
hey man im open minded to an alternative here, and as such I noticed you failed to include an explanation of your alternative to capitalist economics in your post. you sure were very eager to insult me without actually backing up your insults though

>>18021544
No, because there’s zero indication you’ll actually change anything about the system of power that generated all those problems in the first place

>>18021548
>You took them pretty seriously last time the communist and capitalist powers had to ally to barely stop them
Yes, though in the same way that I take a naked pooped stained schizo seriously when he runs at me with a knife

>>18021568
It's not like your side's been doing anything about it though. Anyways, I hope it's clear to you now that you don't need to couple your strongly held economic beliefs to social beliefs that completely go against your own interests. You can totally support your own interests through social "conservatism" combined with fiscal progressivism.

>>18021562
Those people aim their tardy hatreds at someone, not at something. You want to change harmful ideas and behavior, and going the knuckle drag route is completely counterproductive

>>18021580
Tawdry?

>>18021597
No, tardy as in retarded

>>18021603
Ohh I see, thank you for clarifying anon

The corporations are willing to give you a black superhero and a gay couple kissing and the government will give you cheap words and gay marriage to distract you from the lack of free healthcare and union protections. The elite are not prepared to give us immigration reform, less money to Israel or non-interventionism overseas, because that's actually a threat to the system. They need their cheap labour and their endless wars, they don't care at all about conservative sexuality or white supremacy. You see, it isn't because they think we're schizos that want to kill everyone, it's because we're actually attacking things they care about.

>>18019851
white lives matter

>>18021618
>the government will give you cheap words and gay marriage to distract you from the lack of free healthcare and union protections.
And the GOP uses words like ‘commie’ and opposition to gay marriage for the same thing

>>18020287
Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely

>>18021630
So you support a reduction in legal and illegal immigration and possibly measures to incentivize family-creation in countries with low birth-rates? Also, the GOP hasn't pretended to oppose gay marriage for a long time. For them, the main social issues include abortion and really weak stances on trans stuff (I.e. you shouldn't be able to transition until you're 18, etc.).
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58177585e4b0390e69d17cc0

>>18019851
>What the fuck happened?
We grew up. Now it's your turn.

>>18021430
>my corporate overlords dont tolerate your opinions, bet you feel like a loser now

>>18021630
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2OsQ8gyAZiU
Interesting time that Groypers raided a Charlie Kirk (Donald Trump youth outreach guy) event that he cohosted with a gay black man.

>>18019877
Based.

modern leftists are retarded faggots. even marx knew faggotry and feminism and other trash had to be kept out of the movement at all costs, and here we are all these years later, all leftist movements neutered and acting as the stooges of liberal capitalists enforcing divisions of the working class by alienating virtually everyone they can against each other with a fucking clown car of grievances and niche social movements from god damn tranny children to infinite brown people immigration schemes and other such completely idiotic shit as if THATS the hill we all need to die on.

basically, leftism is inherently utopian idiocy in its self and as such left itself to be exploited by a million other utopian parasites which eventually killed it

>>18021651
Fuck you Dillon. I don't do this kind of work.

>>18019851
What happened is that people started to read the book "Deez". It honestly brought out the worst in people and truly led many people down a rabbit whole that may have shaken an entire generation.

>>18021684
I blame Ligma

>>18019867
>>18019932
>>18019956
(You) pic rel
>>18019877
Very based

>>18021630
Do you seriously believe there are any mainstream politicians against homosexual marriage? You need to stop listening to Colbert

>>18019851
its less to do with /lit/ itself changing and more to do with the world around us changing

>>18021802
a little bit of both for me. so much began changing in the 2012-2014 time period that I was forced to reevaluate my beliefs and the way i was living and consider what it was that truly mattered to me, which led to me changing my ways for the better, I think

>>18021802
bros, why did it have to come to this....

>>18021263
>>18021551
I don't recall that either, but /lit/ was more left wing back then, people were discussing and explaining each other complex ideas from Karl Marx.

>>18019982
youre stil here. dang.

>>18020199
qanon is not a psyop.
It's organic autism from /pol/ users.

>>18022015
Karl Marx's ideas are not complex

>>18021031
The concept which captures what you've used many words to describe is: shifting the Overton window.

>>18019930
is process and reality really that good?

>>18020088
she got sexually assaulted?

>>18021254
As an outsider is what alienated me with you guys.

>>18021379
4chan also has pro establishment threads and effort-posting. But I agree with you that on average, on surface, you're going to notice contrarians... must be the anonymity.

>>18021674
You know leftism evolved since Marx in the last 100 years right, especially after the streak of disaatruous prole revolutions, or are you just speaking from memes?

>>18021498
It might be because your talking points are literal schizo-rants, and when an intelligent member of your group articulates them, they're easy to destroy if landed in public.

>>18021577
His side is the one inside policy making institutions, the one which debates in those forums, the one who's vindicated by cultural changes in your society, they talked about those things decades in the past.
I think the changes are evil, but ... it happened.

Your side sits in a corner, refuse to play in society and your politicians are just demagogues who just care about their own well-being, they're bored by policy making process and so on.

plebbit immigrants, /pol/, and ageing millenials happened

>>18022026
Maybe, I could follow those discussions but I forgot most of it, except some talk about a type of token-money type of thing on hours spent laboring.
It felt cool, like those people really cared, it was like they discussed the lore of their favorite series.

That's completely gone from 4chan now and we get the homosex, boring lefties - who in truth are just Americans who watched too many movies.

>>18019877
based

>>18021316
After you :)

>>18021433
Sure, but it's not art

>>18020085
leftypol is just a chud cope. pol used to have plenty of leftist threads until stormniggers migrated en masse and pitched a bitch fit like the little girls they are

>>18020186
Hi ron

>>18022096
?
What you (lefties) argue for has only aided international capital
I have yet to see a decent critique that doesn't fall into platitudes (such as calling others schizos)

That's just funny,I don't understand why exactly there are so many leftists in this thread seething,Mein Kampf isn't even that good.
There are many far right authors that critique the nazis
I myself quite dislike them,their System would have created a technological nightmare aswell,and most nazis vibing with Hitler today only seem to be zoomers,who get their politics from infographics and can only care about the white race.(There are exceptions,and I don't think Hitler was wrong about everything)
>>18019877
The amount of seething this caused is also very based.

This thread has shown just how many redditors/people who take twitch streamers seriously we have:
Master-baiters might be included,sorry frens
This is /b/ tier political discussion and does not belong on /lit/.
All the leftist intellectuals mentioned need to go back to their containment site,you are shitting up the board.
>>18019932
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>>18020015
>>18020028
>>18020161
>>18020180
>>18020346
>>18020358
>>18020910(I'm certain this one is unironic lmao)
>>18020929
>>18020957
>>18021005
>>18021027
>>18021058(trump,you guys)
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>>18021506(muh bootliker)
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>>18021534
>>18021541 (muh tradwife)
>>18021559
>radical traditiontards are just interested in surface level bullshit, and don’t want to change jackshit about the actual power structures
That's the stupidest thing I've heard all day,I genuinely don't believe you browse this board,go back to leftypol
>>18021559
>tranditionalist corporatism
>>18021568
>>18021577
>>18021618
>>18021620
>>18021630
>>18021648
>>18021651

>>18021425
>muh liberal democracy
Go back,jerk off to Destiny somewhere else
>>18020058
I keked

>>18022015
Will continue on this
>people were discussing and explaining each other complex ideas from Karl Marx.
There is nothing wrong with this at all,I hate it when /pol/ reduces it to ''muh joo'' or some infographic they read.
There are a lot of lefty zoomers who get their politics from streamers(mongol larper and Vaush,Destiny is only a liberal),these people are probably acting like the ones that I replied to.

>>18021802
When you are left with nothing, you find something.

>>18022170
I'm not a leftie, I think both sides are retarded. But I feel stronger towards stopping a genocide camp, plus I'm certain people like me wouldn't sit in the face of an army coming for you guys. This should may you re-consider your priorities.

>>18020562
pol is just our GG redd*t golem

>>18022178
>I think both sides are retarded.
Le epic centrism or third position?
>But I feel stronger towards stopping a genocide camp
I'm struggling to understand this argument. Is it a reference to the Shoah? Because most alt-right (or whatever stupid dichotomy) don't care enough about it, and/or wouldn't really consider it as a part of their ideology.
>I'm certain people like me wouldn't sit in the face of an army coming for you guys.
who's us? Fascists? NatSocs?
>This should may you re-consider your priorities.
I'm really sorry, but could you make your argument clearer?

>>18022202
classic direction brained nonsense lol

>>18019889
Absolute bollocks lol. No mention of the other political ideologues

>>18022210
You're the most incoherent poster on /lit/

>>18020899
Irish nationalism is the most infantile adoption by Americans, extremely laughable and a complete LARP

>>18019877
/lit/ is finally getting redpilled. It's a slow process, but we're getting there.

>>18022240
Still make more sense than you

>>18019877
/thread

>>18022252
just one of those phases where a lot of retards are posting on lit, it'll pass

>>18019851
Wait did The Stranger really make it to the 2nd place of /lit/'s 2014 top 100? lmfao this guy >>18019877
might actually be right the lower one is a significant improvement over the upper (althought the Bible does most of the work and it depends on translation)

>>18021263
The 'migrations' and raids of screeching lefties is always understated by the people you are replying to. There have been countless threads that are obvious bait set up to neuter discussion. What I find most funny is that effortposting threads are hardly ever derailed, they're too hard to understand or get into for these types. Kek
You often see pathetic attempts part way through the thread but they get 0 replies haha

>>18021674
Imagine the German and Baltic communist revolutions and subsequent fighting in 1918/19 but instead of first world war veterans you had American teenage Twitter users. Ahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha

>>18022280
Stormniggers too

>>18020562
Exactly, you're a shit symptom of a bad existence in this world.

Honestly as someone who returned to /lit/ after about 2 years and this thread is the first thing i saw, it's incredible to me how everyone here has been left behind on 2016 while the rest of the world progressed past that phase. Grow up you guys.

>>18019851
We ascended when r*dditors left to r/TrueLit.

>>18022160
>saying the n-word
I'll be talking to your employer about this and you shall be expelled from the Left TM (registered Disney subsidiary). This is truly insulting to our BIPOCLGBTQ2+ comrades.

>>18021051
>Chick

>>18022303
Okay but I'm not wrong, shit was pathetic really

>>18022288
No, they're not understated, their effect is mostly overstated.

I am talking about the 'leftypol' users of this board who pretend their has been mass migration of right wingers, when in fact there is mostly just reaction to the 'discord trannies' raiding of threads, along with organic reaction of users to political events.
E.g. if this board was not raided, it would lean right. It wouldn't be some lefty utopia
that is currently being subverted, as they claim.

>>18022319
Yeah which is why we have a Wyatt Mann comics all over the place now

>>18019899
>NOOOOOOO A BOOK CONSISTING OF HISTORICAL STORIES AND POEMS ISN'T LITERATURE

>>18019851
I get the bible sure its pretty important, but mein kampf is a meme answer

>>18019851
Nothing wrong with The Bible actually. However the Hitler shit is something I would try to read and post about when I was an edgelord high schooler at the peak of my cringe.

>>18022324
It's not top 100 literature

>>18019877
Yes.

>>18019851
pseuds were ran out

>>18022323
This is the geezer who posts 'relevant xkcd comic' in Reddit threads

>Edit: thanks chuds for raiding again!

>>18022151
You have to be 18 to post here

>>18020566
It's just kind of weird that quality lit was abandoned in favour of blatant propaganda.

>>18022333
Go ahead and keep moving those goalposts

>>18022377
It's a fake image. But the real reason this thread was created was to give the lefty gimps somewhere to rant about the imaginary right wing mass migrations lol

All of these problems could be resolved if Americans were simply banned from this site. Or at least Californians and New Yorkers.

>>18020583
Kek

>>18022400
this

>>18022400
Or if many people toughened up and stop being such cry babies. You can really see the effects of the comfort of the 20th/21st century and digitalisation on the Western psyche.

>>18019851
We regained faith.

>>18020555
>>18022416
These two summarise it quite well.

E.g no, flagellating yourself and becoming subservient to minority groups is not a valid politic ideology. No, you can't force your entire nation to follow your mentally deranged ideas

I know it's a troll pic but there are not a lot of actual Nazi's on here. Replace Mein Kampf with '12 Rules for Life' and it's accurate

>>18020910
You guys are also racist authoritarians so I don't understand your problem with fascism.

>>18020730
Was cute for a brit, too, a rare sight.

/lit/ stopped trying to be pseuds

>>18019899
Sure it is
It’s a book that tells stories. What else would it be?

>>18022061
I skip the philosophy, it is a waste of time

>>18022400
We can only hope.

>>18022510
no, we actually read

>>18022390
we're talking about the royal literature, nobooks.

>>18022565
Harry Potter doesn't count.

>>18022580
go home bloom you're dead

>>18020132
Surely in April and not when, you know, the year is over

>>18019899
I'm atheist and it is easily one of the greatest literary works of all time
to deny that is a gigacope

>>18019851
Mein Kampf is such a boring read bros.

>Fucking dumb lefties can't form an argument or back their fairytale beliefs up with facts, get off OUR board
>Every second thread is "books about why black people are scientifically dumb?"
It would be terrific if the literature board was actually about literature and this garbage was sent back where it came.

>>18019930
I come here to grab these lists

>>18022094
>He thinks that's a good thing

>>18019877
based

>>18019885
UNDERRATED

>>18021551
no it's not true at all. the only time i was ever banned on /lit/ in the early 2010s was when i would post in "off-topic threads". they would delete off-topic threads and ban absolutely anybody that would post in them. hasn't happened to me in a few years now though

itt: people who rarely leave the house and are scared of girls and talking on the phone explain vast right wing conspiracies to... ruin literature discussion on an anime website

>>18022871
Shit's expected. I don't think anyone goes on 4chan expecting intelligent discussion in more than microdoses. The variety of shit however's gotten tedious. The status quo of this board has changed in the past so I'm sure this won't last forever.

>>18022775
>Every second thread is "books about why black people are scientifically dumb?"
I dare you to go to Warosu and calculate how many OPs in the past week have been about racial science. What is the percentage. Show us the chudspiracy.

>>18019964
kys faggot and get out of my board

>>18022400
>solve problems by banning
or you could fuck off and never come back
much simpler and easier
a win/win really

>>18019851
eh, I couldn't think of two book more stylistically different than the stranger and infinite jess, clearly showing the two side of /lit/, the pseud that brag about reading a difficult book and the one that barely read having chosen an easy one

>>18019893
Beside the cultural context, I don't see how such a mismatch of different literally style, written in different language in different time periode by dozens of different authors as a favorite

>>18020075
philosophytube raped contrapoints :)

>>18022061
No, but so far it's still a good read.

>>18022172
Based

>>18019930
Peter, is that you?
go start Frankenstein already

>>18020186
Oh no

>>18019976
No one is laughing buddy, this isn't the Daily Show :3

>>18023162
no, but you're clearly mad

>>18021215
Riiight, don't mind it being the most historically and artistically important and influential book of all time, it definitely didn't last.

>>18023173
I am not the one angry here, it is the endless sea of people who watch the Colbert Report and the Daily Show and are radicalized :3

You will lose this. I can guarantee it. God is on our side.

>>18023179
you're the one holding an anonymous crusade on 4chan lol

>>18023198
But I'm not anonymous. You know me as :3

>>18019930
>Montaigne
Based beyond belief

>>18022294
They’re not stuck in 2016, I’d say 2015 actually. Shit’s embarrassing

>>18019930
>le bible

>>18022065
Yeah he got sexually assaulted by the other guy

>>18023221
That is God's word. You obey or you get punished. It's how this world works.

>>18023245
yeah, not literature dummy

>>18023245
>It's how this world works.

Move out of mommy's basement lol

>>18023276
>>18023265
Sorry but I'm :3

I'm notable for converting Butterfly out of lesbianism. There are multiple things going on here. Because of your media, television, movies, film, etc. you have been conditioned by the people who control society.

In many ways, this is important to understand because your minds are not actually 'yours' per se. They are being told what to believe.

Recently, various Republicans in congress became aware of me and tried to fight along the old political lines for my cause, but it's impossible because then you are simply just trying to vey for control of the masses via propaganda.

The only way to win this fight is not through politics at all, but rather people in general.

>>18023245
Stop being a schizo
>>18023265
Stop being illiterate

>>18023308
stop devaluing scripture and literature in the same breath

>>18019877
Hitler was staunchly anti-christian...

So lits been cringe for like 7 years now just with more right wing flavor now? What im mainly getting from this

>>18023383
these lists were always reddit

>>18023300
As a /film/fag I feel extremely offended by your simplistic take on our media. It's not it's fault that people have shit taste and are tricked into watching capeshit.

>>18023300
this type of braindead bullshit only passes muster on >>>/pol/, try using your brain for once.

>>18021654
it's a simple fact that the frothing retard hordes congregate here because other sites ban them

Put all of your effort into the silver squeeze. The Fed must die.

>>18023353
No he wasn't

>>18023620
lol idiot

the bible was always voted high. why are you weirdos so obsessed with conflating ANY sort of spirituality or religion with /pol/? is it just a way to dismiss it?

>>18024063
that's because it's scripture

>>18023222
source?

>>18022160
It isn't true. Moot even talked about how as soon as /pol/ was created, it immediately filled up with neo-nazis. This was just the culture of the site as a whole but there was no outlet until /pol/. Sure, others migrated there after ruining the board but it was never leftist, lmao.

>>18024532
no, loser nazis just jumped at any opportunity for a platform to hack out their wretched ideals because most places just tell them to fuck off

>>18024645
So despite the board never having been leftist, like how you claim it was, as /new/ was deleted in 2011 for being too right-wing, you still claim it was taken over. Imagine being so obviously a tourist that is ruining this board and still pretending some moral superiority. Is it wrong to want to talk about literature on this board? Why do you people have to throw politics in everywhere?