/lit/ - Literature

>>18174816
On a side not, however, I like Peter Sloterdijk quite a lot, but I don't know how he hasn't been cancelled into oblivion with some of the based things that he says!

>>18174816
>>18174829
Wow. So interesting.

>>18175017
bump

How about you tell us what you like about it? "very interesting" is plebbit tier

>>18174829
He got himself into positions of power and profits from lecturing outside of any mayor german urban center. It would look quite bad for our elite if they dared to cancel Sloterdijk, so he's a tolerated dissident voice to create the illusion of a pluralistic discourse.

>>18174816
Only read vol 1 but found it disappointing. Read more like some fantastical art history treatise rather than a rigorous ontology.

>>18175114
What made you expect to find a rigorous ontology with Sloterdijk?

>>18175080
Hmmmm so is he the only person in Germany who can get away with this?
>named the Rothschilds and how much power they have
>made fun of feminism
>says the refugees should not be allowed into the country
>hates liberal democracy
>talks about how Jewish psychology has replaced Greek philosophy of the mind in modern academia
>supports eugenics

>>18175017
>>18175077
It is really very quite interesting and fun to read.
I think, however, that ultimately what his ontology boils down to is Neoplatonism. This is what I sense from his analogy of God and Adam, for instance.

>>18175125
I hadn't read him before going in, I just heard it billed as "Being and Space" so my expectations were set accordingly.

>>18175138
Yes, he's the only one.

>>18175253
Really?

>>18175138
>>talks about how Jewish psychology has replaced Greek philosophy of the mind in modern academia
Holy based I might read him just for this

>>18175138
Based
Where does he talk about Jewish psychology? I want to read it.

Is that the book where he says everybody wishes to be back in the comfort of the womb?

>>18175326
Bubbles

>>18174829
He has that Faelid cro-magnon appearance. Very Corded Ware.

>>18175349
no desu

How is "You Must Change Your Life?" I'm looking for a book that deals with living in our godless, tech driven society, does it have actual praxis?

>>18175561
I have not read that book, but this might help you with your problem.
https://youtu.be/dETOVRuI3LM

>>18175680
and this
https://youtu.be/uJhf4idF0EY

>>18174816
He's Zizek's best friend on the right

>>18175753
Do they agree on anything? It seems they would be completely opposed to each other on everything.

>>18175774
They agree on some things, but I said they were friends, not that they agree

>>18175804
Yeah I know what you said they're friends but I'm just wondering what they agree on. What do they agree on? Pls tell me.

>>18175819
piss and shit, maybe cum

Zizek is not a philosopher

>>18175907
???

>>18175979
bump

>>18175819
pls tell me

>>18177078
they agree with Zizek that the reproduction of reality made by the culture industry is actually a good thing in driving more ontological discussions forward. They both wrote about Blade Runner 2049 too.

>>18175819
>>18177078
His concept of sphere like how 20% of world population lives inside a safe sphere and rest of 80% is trying get in to it. This is causing the immigration crisis. Zizek mentioned this in a lecture and said that we(commies) should never ignore an intelligent conservative.

>>18177226
>His concept of sphere like how 20% of world population lives inside a safe sphere and rest of 80% is trying get in to it.
Why don't we just not let them in? They just make it less comfy here.

>>18177280
Because whiteness is the new original sin and we must atone by replacing ourselves

>>18177331
No that sounds gay. I think that we should embrace our past and continue or noble tradition as conquerors and crusaders!

>>18175774
Zizek makes use of Sloterdijk’s work on ‘cynical ideology’ pretty often. I wouldn’t say they agree about anything as far as issues go, and I also think people are incorrect about them being ‘friends’. I’ve never seen anything to indicate that they’ve even met in person.

>>18177658
there's a video somewhere in youtube where Zizek quotes "[his] right wing friend, Peter Sloterdijk", or something along those lines. He seems to call everyone his "friend", so they probably just talked once or twice.

>>18177774
Why does Zizek say that Aleksandr Dugin is some crazy radical who is best not to engage with?

>>18175114

The former is a more useful kind of text than the latter, though, so this complaint is void.

>>18175114
>fantastical art history treatise
Sounds extremely based

>>18175516
but he does say that somewhere. someone told me of that.

>Sloterdijk - Spheres
Extremely based and probably my favourite philosophical work.
The the way SL constructs this rather simple idea of spheres from bubbles to foams throughout the 3 books is very engaging and I very much enjoyed all the historical interjections about art, architecture and culture. After reading a SL book you always get the feeling that you learned something even if you don't accept the philosophy.

>>18175349
>>18178959
>Is that the book where he says everybody wishes to be back in the comfort of the womb?
Yes. It's either 1 or 2 where he makes the direct statement of that.

>>18175561
>does it have actual praxis?
I would say so yes. He mentions several examples of people in todays world who apply the the principle of Nietzsches ascetic star, which is pretty much the basis of that book.

>>18174816
Is this worth a read?

>>18175349
That's in the second volume, Globes, in the section that deals with (our) first best friend and food source, Nature's teddy bear, the placenta

>>18179203
Yeah, a good one to begin with as well, then read Cynical Reason before hitting the trilogy

>>18179460
Thanks anon

>>18179453
>>18179087
Can I start with spheres 2 or is that retarded?
I really jsut want to read what he says about the desire to be in the state of being back in the womb again.

>>18179631
The world is retarded anon. Go for it.

>>18179631
Yeah, I think you can. In a way it's beginning in medias res

>>18179453
I jsut checked the wikipedia entry on the trilogy and it says that subject is in book 1.

>>18179453
>Nature's teddy bear, the placenta
Wait a minute, is Peter Sloterdijk a Varg fan?

>>18179631
>>18179453
i stopped reading when i got to that placenta bit, realized i was reading schizo dogshit

>>18181336
pleb

>>18174829
He looks Baltic. Is this common in Germany?

>>18181514
a lot of germans were driven from the prussian parts into todays germany. (huge wehrmacht efforts to evacuate all of east prussia form the russians)
So there it would not be unreasonable to assume one of his parents is somehow from the baltic region.

>>18181514
>>18181596
Germans look like blond, blue eyed version of East Asians. It is interesting

>>18180670
My mistake, then. Makes sense that it would be (now that I think about it) because the spheres become less physically personal as he advances toward contemporary atomization, irony of ironies; I read him six, seven years ago. Again, my bad.

>>18181336
Nothing prepared me for that; I sat perplexed for the remainder of the evening after reading that too long, weirdly 'joyful' chapter. But I continued on and though 'the bit' comes to me from time to time like a bad dream, I literally haven't 'thought' about it since. What I remember were strong feelings of disagreement mixed up with amused feelings of 'you got to be kidding me'! I had read the Cynical Reason (which is very good, even helpful) and You Must Change Your Life, which too is helpful but somewhat repulsive given its complete acceptance of the Kurzweilian future, before, as well as the two shorter tracts on Nietzsche and Philosophical Temperaments, so NOTHING I had read by him previous suggested that this was coming. It's bothersome.

>>18181821
*Scythian

>>18182546
The Scythians were Germanic. Academia does not want you to know this.

>>18175516
>>18179087
It's in 1. Stop larping and read it.

>>18182905
No, it was in the movie, retard.

>>18174816
The Spheres trilogy are my favorite works by any author living or dead.

>>18174816
There's an essay on him in the latest Plutonics journal.

>>18183379
nice