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any refutations?

>> No.18186280 [DELETED] 
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18186280

Yes. Plenty.

Gove bullet points/highlights

>> No.18186283

>>18186280
>liberty
>democracy
how can a system in which an ever so slight majority having total coercion over an ever so slight minority possibly be a system of liberty?

>> No.18186285
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18186285

Yes. Plenty.

Give bullet points/highlights

>> No.18186291

>>18186283
Consensus or near consensus voting.
The Kurds rely on 51/49% votes for simple things like when to have the next meeting (I am quite tired atm) but for more crucial topics they get near consensus

>> No.18186292

>>18186285
Why haven't you committed suicide yet?

>> No.18186295
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18186295

>>18186292
I am just not that sort of woman. But sleep now

>> No.18186296

for the most part no
the minority is always fucked under democracy in some form

>> No.18186298

>>18186291
not an argument.
if consensus agrees that the genocide of group b is a good thing, is this liberty?
if consensus agrees that the expropriation of the wealth of class c is a good thing, is this liberty?

>> No.18186302

>>18186283
It isn't. No one who seriously understands liberty, natural rights, etc advocates for democracy. This weird fascination with democracy is just psyop at worst and malicious propaganda at best.

>> No.18186313

>>18186273
I hate this crap about political systems being "failed", there is no such thing as a failed system. It works just fine, just not for you. Don't like it? Revolt. Otherwise? Keep seething! There's your refutation.

>> No.18186318

>>18186298
If 80% to 90% agreed that fascists should shut the fuck up? They already agree to let women have a full say. Luckily for you, they’re giving you a second chance to not be a fucking fascist.

>> No.18186325

>>18186313
not an argument

>> No.18186350

>>18186273
No, only reinforcements. The American Empire is far greater than the Roman Empire ever was. We still have a long way down before total collapse, simply due to how large the beast is.

>> No.18186359

What's his argument?

>> No.18186369

>>18186313
That's retarded because you can obviously measure how a system functions and it's efficiency in achieving it's goals.