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>Read Plato because muh Theory of Forms was an influential idea
>There is no such a thing to be found in his writings. It was actually developed by Neoplatonists
>Read Descartes because muh Reason as the basis of modernity and scientific thought
>Descartes is basically a cryptotheologician trying to overcome his own cynism and skepticism.
I could go on forever but i think you get my point. I just don't know where to go from here. Almost everything i think i know is either wrong or an intentionally provocative misreading that has the purpose of deceive to reward those who actually do the task of reading the main sources.

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>>18190985
>There is no such a thing to be found in his writings

>> No.18190995

>>18190985
>yfw you discover Plato was an immanentist
Be excited OP

>> No.18191021

>>18190985
You might be functionally retarded

>> No.18191035

>>18190985
>There is no such a thing to be found in his writings.
Try actually reading them not some book summary next time retard

>> No.18191051

>>18190985

IIRC the invisible hand is only explicitly named just one time in the FIRST edition of Wealth of Nations, to say nothing of later editions. Also "language game" is explicitly invoked only minimally in Philosophical investigations (though the examples illustrate a simple version of the concept at some length).

>> No.18191294

>>18191051
It’s in either blue book or brown book too, but just barely

>> No.18191336

>t. only read the Apology and the Republic
read Plato's Parmenides

>> No.18191596

>>18190985
what the fuck did you read?

>> No.18191641

>>18191336
not him but thanks. i've been looking for the work that focuses on the forms

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>>18190985
>There is no such a thing to be found in his writings. It was actually developed by Neoplatonists

what?

>> No.18192621

>>18190985
>Read Plato because muh Theory of Forms was an influential idea
>There is no such a thing to be found in his writings. It was actually developed by Neoplatonists
What? See below

“there are two subdivisions, in the lower of which the soul uses the figures given by the former division as images; the enquiry can only be hypothetical, and instead of going upwards to a principle descends to the other end; in the higher of the two, the soul passes out of hypotheses, and goes up to a principle which is above hypotheses, making no use of images as in the former case, but proceeding only in and through the ideas themselves,”

>> No.18192627

>>18191336
and Timaeus, Parmenides is really out there and has lots of critiques of prior/internal systems

>> No.18192646

>>18192627
Where does he talk about emanations? I've heard Catholics talk about it them in their theology, but never cite where they got the idea.

>> No.18192648

>>18192646
well that is neoplatonism

>> No.18192685

I fuckin hate that “muh” shit, you 4chan nerds are faggots

>> No.18192694

>read the Bible because Jesus is supposed to be the Savior who forgives all our sins
>get exactly what I was told
Perfect as always

>> No.18192699

>>18190985
>>Read Plato because muh Theory of Forms was an influential idea
>>There is no such a thing to be found in his writings. It was actually developed by Neoplatonists
This real? I was thinking about reading Plato but maybe I should just read them neoplatonists and shit lmao

>> No.18194024

>>18192699
yeah just skip right to ficino

>> No.18195387

>>18190985
>mfw i paid that bitch thousands of dollars to lie to me at uni
bitch probably never even read Plato, just regergitated what was in the book. unions are trash, especially for professors

>> No.18195775

>>18192699
no, be cautious with this, this will turn you gay. if you want to rush philosophy, don't read philosophy.

>> No.18195814

>>18190985
fucking retard

JUST READ /LIT/ JUST FUCKING READ

STOP FUCKING POSTING HERE ABOUT SHIT YOU DON'T KNOW FUCKING SHIT ABOUT

A GOOGLE SEARCH COULD HAVE BEEN MORE INFORMATIVE THAN YOUR FUCKING READING COMPREHENSION/LITERACY

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>tfw Plato was just lonely and had to pretend to have conversations with friends

>> No.18196033

>>18195387
>>18190985
>There is no such a thing to be found in his writings. It was actually developed by Neoplatonists
um anons? Please read plato before you post on /lit/.....