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18193445 No.18193445 [Reply] [Original]

I hate him. I hate him and his stupid fucking long-winded books that either say nothing or say only trite nonsense.

His books have the same message and formula as your average Indian soap opera, and yet the latter aren't considered some high form of art.

>> No.18193448

>>18193445
no

>> No.18193449

>>18193445
They don’t have his genius aesthetics. But yes, his moralizing and religion are all tedious. He only really had two great books, Anna Karenina and Hadji Murat, but those are really astonishing works.

>> No.18193471

>>18193445
His books are wonderful for their exquisite characterisation and power of description, not their morals -- Tolstoy was never the great thinker he thought he was

>> No.18193488

>>18193471
I’d go as far to say he’s one of the worst thinkers in the canon. That’s true of a lot of the great Russians actually.

>> No.18193493

>>18193445
>>18193488
you were inconceivably, utterly filtered

>> No.18193503

>>18193493
No I wasn’t. I’ve read Anna K several times and probably with more depth than you’ve read anything. His writing is beautiful. But he could not think.

>> No.18193512

>>18193503
>But he could not think.
What does that even mean?

>> No.18193532

>>18193512
Don't you get it? He didn't conform to my idea of "good" therefore he's a bad thinker!!
Seriously though, I think it has more to do with the sophistication of his ideas and its novelty. I have only began reading Anna Karenina, but I think >>18193503 is pointing at how his ideas are neither new nor extremely cogent.

>> No.18193539

>>18193471
This. I don't understand why people on this board read novels as an extension of philosophy, morals, religion or other kinds of general conceptualizations.

>> No.18193569

>>18193503
>with more depth than you’ve read anything
Imagine being so insecure you need to assert just how good of a reader you are

>> No.18193577

I haven't read anything by him because I'm utterly sick of 19th century novels, but I think you shouldn't judge a novelist according to his "ideas".

>> No.18193716

>>18193445
I read Tolstoy first when I was 14 and even then I knew he was one of the GOATs. Deceptive simplicity of style and brilliant characterization.

>> No.18193730

>>18193503
I find Anna Karenina a bit soapish. War & Peace would be his best if you removed the didactic chapters.

Tolstoy seems a bit too caught up under the influence of Rousseau and the consequences of his lavish lifestlye. His ideas were usually shit and are very dated today. Slave rapist too.

>> No.18193924

Ok, and where does this hate get you?

Serf and Levinpill asap.

>> No.18193935

>>18193445
Go back to watching your cartoons then
Why do you think anyone gives a shit?