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>>18293437
He would have been dead of syphillus.

>>18293437
>What would Nietzsche have written about the sexual revolution/liberation and incel phenomenon?
Lol. Nietzsche is an atheist, so he has no fixed ''believes''. Nietzsche hates christian because christian think about the long term. Nietzsche wants to live in the present moment.

Do you know who else live in the present moment? Women.
Yeah that's right, atheism is feminism.

I will tell you everything there is to know about women, and then you can replace ''women'' with ''atheist'' in general and ''Nietzsche'' in particular.

one of the biggest red pills is the first time you realize that women experience literally no disconnect between saying X when it feels good to say X, and completely betraying and contradicting X five seconds later when it feels good to do that. women like to "try on" male-centric morals and virtues like children playing dress-up, but they don't actually know what it means to set up a virtue as an objective principle for oneself and then resist the temptation to break it in future moments when it stops being convenient and pleasant.

so if you ask a woman what kind of guy she values, she will blab on and on for hours about how noble she is and how she sees through superficiality and only wants sweet genuine men and etc., etc., etc. then five seconds later she'll completely contradict everything she said. the key thing to understand about women is that they don't perceive any difference here. from a man's perspective, you are thinking "but she said 'i only do X' and two seconds later she did 'non-X'?" this is because the fundamental modality of male consciousness is erecting principles and trying to follow them - even if you're a shitty man, it just means you're shitty and weak at erecting principles, not that the FUNDAMENTAL modality of principle-erection is absent. a woman's fundamental modality is "doing what i feel like." to a woman, that behavior is completely consistent: in the first instance, she did what she felt like. then she did what she felt like again. only a man perceives that the CONTENT of the actions was contradictory, i.e., would be contradictory if performed by a man. but for a woman whose primary stream of consciousness is "what do i want to do right now? :) perhaps i'll wear a ribbon in my hair tomorrow, tra lala!," no such contradiction occurred, or indeed is even possible.

>>18293447
Seethe

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based
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seethe

>>18293455
Cope

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buzzword

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sneed

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reddit

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Include me in the screencap reddit!

>>18293447
>Nietzsche hates christian because christian think about the long term
I take it that you have never read actually read Nietzsche?

>>18293477
Nobody who posts this copypasta has read Nietzsche

>>18293474
cringe

Nietzsche is talking about a different kind of loneliness here.
To answer your question though, he would not have cared. Maybe he would have analyzed the psychology of incels and anti-incels, but it would only be for sport.

>>18293487
What kind of loneliness is he referring to?

>>18293490
No one knows. Anyone who claims to know is just projecting themselves into Nietzsche's philosophy as "the good guy", which happens a lot. Nietzsche himself stated he was addressing his philosophy to "Hyperboreans." Again, no one knows exactly what that means.

Anyhow, the most general and probably correct answer is just people who refuse to participate in politics, philosophy, and all of the "current", "popular" issues. But this doesn't really narrow it down much.

>>18293490
The loneliness of people who are like Nietzsche. The ones who have chosen themselves. They are not lonely because they dont have a girlfriend, but because they are so different from everyone else.

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> Anonymous 05/22/21(Sat)12:33:14 No.18293477▶>>18293479
>>>18293447 (You)
>>Nietzsche hates christian because christian think about the long term
>I take it that you have never read actually read Nietzsche?

>>18293533
I will confirm that you have never read Nietzsche.

>>18293546
>Anonymous 05/22/21(Sat)12:54:58 No.18293546▶
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>I will confirm that you have never read Nietzsche.

>>18293447
The boyim are cattle.

>>18293556
>Nietzsche hates christian because christian think about the long term
Do you have a quote?

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>>Nietzsche hates christian because christian think about the long term
>Do you have a quote?

>>18293437
he would've loved it to see chads killing and incels seething in dating . Afterall he loved the romans where a minority of men were owning many women and power

>>18293437
Why do bots love soiposting so much?

>>18293628
>bots
christcucks*
neetche makes them endlessly seethe

>>18293628
>Anonymous 05/22/21(Sat)13:18:54 No.18293628▶
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>Why do bots love soiposting so much?

>>18293586
Christians hate Nietzsche because Nietzsche thinks about the long term. Christians wants to live in the present moment. I'm not going to elaborate upon this remark, and any attempt to interrogate the validity of this statement will be met with a soijack.

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>Christians hate Nietzsche because Nietzsche thinks about the long term. Christians wants to live in the present moment. I'm not going to elaborate upon this remark, and any attempt to interrogate the validity of this statement will be met with a soijack.

He would have said that "sexual liberation" is heteronomous self-slavery under guise of enlightenment.

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>>18293437
The so-called sexual revolution was a completely egalitarian, bourgeois and consumerist phenomenon, so Nietzsche would have hated it. Nietzsche was a philosopher of difference. In Nietzsche's eyes, a beautiful and powerful woman would be very, very different from a man. The levelling effect of the sexual revolution would therefore be considered a tremendous loss of character, strength and prestige.

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>I always love the threads that devolve into this soujakfest

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janny please clean it up...

>>18293802
>janny please clean it up...

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>>18293437

Nietzsche would probably say that this only proves his analysis of the decadence of western civilization. He would see the rampant inceldom and women's sexual liberation as effects of the disappearance of God (as principle, not in the religious sense).

He would probably say that this is exactly as he predicted, people take refuge in hedonistic practices to cope with reality because they're not ready yet to accept the turth that "God is dead".

>>18293437
He would be incel today

>>18293437
Nietzsche would be another public speaker with a pateron account who goes around owning the libs in Unis.

>>18293965
>implying he wouldn't just transition

>>18294055
I wonder what Frederica Nietzsche would look like

>>18293503
>Again, no one knows exactly what that means.
t. not a hyperborean

>>18293437
Nietzsche was the first incel and also a masturbation addict

>>18293437
>he have criticized the latter because it bases itself on ressentiment

This one, incel-dom is pure slave morality, defining yourself in relationship to others, by someone else's perceived power of you, pathetically making a virtue of your own impotence and weakness

>>18294711
What is the alternative for alienated sexless young men?

>>18294769
care about literally anything in life besides sex?

>>18295102
It's not just sex, though.
>isolation
>insecurity and inadequacy
>lack of companionship and affection in general

>>18295141
yeah you literally just have to stop caring about all that, none of that bothers me anymore.

>>18295154
>you literally just have to stop caring
But how? How the fuck do you actually stop caring for real, and not just cope by telling yourself you don't care but still feel bitter?

>>18295374
Like I said by caring about other things, and also change your environment i.e. don’t talk to people on 4chan all day who are in the same headspace as you. Focus on different things, it’s all in your head. Stop basing your entire identity off the fact that you are isolated.

>another thread for people who haven't read N to debate people who didn't understand him about whether it is based and redpilled to agree with him or not

>>18293556
kek dead

>>18295705
We are constantly bombarded with reminders that we are "losers" or "abnormal"
It takes a lot of mental strength to be unaffected by any of it

>>18295902
because you identify yourself with abnormal people and losers, so when people talk about them you take it personally... stop associating with them and considering yourself one of them. These things only have power over you because you believe they do. Do with that knowledge what you will, which will probably be nothing because you don't really want to change.

>>18293522
Wow literally me

>>18296054
retard

>>18296054
>stop associating with them and considering yourself one of them.
I don't choose to feel targeted by things that describe me extremely well, I'm not delusional

>>18296065
>>18296081
pearls before swine

>>18296084
>"how do you do it"
>just do it
>"that doesn't help"
>pearls before swine bro
ok thanks

>>18295141
Do you really think those people who you find to be *literally you* are the only ones experiencing these issues?

>>18296097
To that extent? Yes, otherwise a term wouldn't have been created for it. There's a difference between feeling lonely sometimes and having been isolated your whole life, in the first case you see it as a temporary hardship to surmount, in the latter case you see it as a consequence of being inherently dysfunctional.

>>18296081
yes you do. I'll say it again and if you won't try to understand it you'll always be a depressed loser: These things only have power over you because you believe they have power over you. It's the reason people have an easier time quitting alcohol on their own than if they go to an AA meeting, because AA teaches you that alcohol is a disease that you can't possibly overcome on your own, you are specially affected by a disease you can do nothing about which has absolute power over you and only God can save you. The truth is that you choose to keep drinking alcohol because you a) believe that you can't quit and b) don't want to quit and won't decide once and for all to quit. I'm a total social retard and I say maybe 10-20 words to other people in real life on my best day, but I'm completely happy and the best thing I ever did for my mental health was to stop talking to people and associating myself with mentally ill people who consider themselves mentally ill and believe that they can do nothing against their mental illness. I'm not talking out my ass here, the reason you are depressed is because of you, you are the one who is placing importance on the things you know you can't have and obsessing over them, and you are the one who needs to stop. lf you can't accept that you are hopeless.

>>18296122
I understand you're advocating for a complete change in perspective, I get that things that bother me only bother me because I believe them to be important
What I'm saying is that this is sound but that I don't know of any method to abandon the things I've valued and been conditioned to value my entire life, short of spending the rest of my life as a monk completely cut off from society.
You said you stopped associating with mentally ill people but you still come here, why?
>you are the one who is placing importance on the things you know you can't have and obsessing over them
If I had completely 100% given up I wouldn't suffer, the anguish comes from a lingering doubt in the back of my mind that says "maybe you could have those things if you tried". I need to kill that voice

>>18296164
>What I'm saying is that this is sound but that I don't know of any method to abandon the things I've valued and been conditioned to value my entire life
This is still you believing that you are controlled by these things. That's what you have to eliminate. It doesn't take any effort to abandon them at all once you stop believing that it does take effort. The method is to stop believing lies. (and stop doing things that reinforce the lie)
>maybe you could have those things if you tried
I'm not saying you shouldn't try to have a relationship at all, you just shouldn't let yourself by dictated by whether or not you do.
>you still come here, why?
this is a literature board

>>18296210
Ok, I think I get it

>>18296241
Based anon not that guy but what he says is mostly true if you define yourself as apart of a group of losers and label yourself with them it can only be bad. Try thinking more along the lines of you are what you consistently do and of not being a particular type of person but in the process of becoming the person you want to be. Try reading atomic habits it’s not perfect but it might help you out.