/lit/ - Literature

>>18383855
>who is faulkner
>who is wolfe
>who is hemingway
>who is pound
>who is mccarthy
fuck off

>>18383874
>>who is faulkner
>>who is wolfe
>>who is hemingway
>>who is pound
>>who is mccarthy
Exactly. Literally who?

>>18383855
>>18383874
It's DFW. We all know it was.

>>18383855
yes yes, well done op. however

>american writers
/thread

>>18383874
only faulkner could make it into the conversation, kys

Americans can't write. Go read your "WHITE FRAGILITY" mandatory reading from your DIVERSITY COMMISSARS you crypto-commie LOSERS

>>18383874
none of those stand up to nab

>>18383855
Yeah, Poe doesn’t get the attention here he deserves. He is pretty damn good.

Poe is better than Melville. His poem about the sound bells make is better than Moby Dick.

If you all actually understood literature, you'd understand just how much better DFW was than all these academic hacks and pulp shlocks

>>18384376
nabokov? his prose is the only good thing about him

>american writers

>>18384501
I bet you’re one of those chinese/japanese weeb faggots. Huh? Right? Sucky sucky? Fucky fucky?

Kys, bitch.

>>18384491
good thing books are made up of prose

The Raven is the best poem ever written

>>18384441
>His poem about the sound bells make
Title?

>>18384480
>DFW
Americans can't irony.

>>18384376

>>18384575
The Bells lol

>>18384554
retard

>>18383855
...and Iceberg Slim.

>>18385153
aesthete-let

>>18385157
based

>>18384491
>a writer's best thing about him is his writing
>somehow a bad thing
Are you seriously retarded?

>>18384441
Poe's poetry sucks with the exception of a few poems, and his prose, while good, is far from Melville's.

>>18384573
not even close

>>18385157
His writing is actually decent desu better than what I expected

>>18384376
Faulkner is better. Nabokov isn't even a true American.

I know he isn’t Melville, but his writing is very clever and he possessed a great sense of humor. You should read Innocents Abroad. He describes how he couldn’t find a bar of soap in the French hotel he was staying at, and speculated about what this might mean for French hygiene. Very funny stuff.

>>18384011
N

>>18384114
McCarthy is better than Faulkner

Wallace Stevens and Richard Wilbur are my favorite American poets

>>18384554
books are made of processed cellulose fiber, moran

>>18384573
>>18386353
no poem has better rhythm. the substance is good, but mogged by many works.

>>18386380
he was a faggot anti-imperialist soiboi. he made a whole seething essay because of Kipling's White Man's Burden (which was based)

>blocks you're path

>>18388695
>

>>18383855
No one beats Melville but Poe is interesting. He's based but also retarded, inventive but very sloppy sometimes.

>>18384376
No, I can clearly state with confidence that Faulkner can beat Nabokov any day; like >>18384491 said, Nabokov's prose is the only thing going for him, Faulkner has prose, themes, narrative and characters all under his belt

ENTER

>>18389346
THEN EXIT

>>18389410
THEN ENTER

>a challenger appears

>>18383855
It's Poe or Pound, imo.

>>18389610
That's my favorite painting at Musée d'Orsay

>>18383855
Even a German, Schmidt, was obsessed with him, a man who went through World War II himself as a soldier and who ought by all rights to hate Americans. A romantic 19th century figure.

>>18384146

t. Zhang posting from within Russia, and not merely via a proxy e-mail

Melville, Emerson, Whitman, Dickinson, Twain, Ellison, Steinbeck, Le Guin, Iceberg Slim

>>18389713
You're not even going to make one indication in your posts? :3

Mean

>>18389713
>Dickinson
woman

>Ellison
nignog

>Le Guin
woman

how the fuck are you going to put two women and a nigger in the running for best American authors, and not even include Faulkner or Henry James?

>>18389837
Don’t care for Faulkner. Don’t even know who Henry James is

melville easily then

Poe > Melville > Faulkner > James >>> DFW > Pynchon > Steinbeck >>> power gap >>> Nabokov > Irving > Hemingway > Twain

>>18389324
I dont know how someone who has read him can subscribe to this meme. Nabokovs books are built on engaging fun and impactful stories with memorable characters and if you cant see the themes, youre blind. He is criminally underrated by faulknerfags just because hes not self serious like faulkner and is consistently funny

>>18383855
Steven King wants to have a word with you

>>18383855
>>18383874
its literally between melville and faulkner. poe is shit.

>>18389713
shit take as always. le guin LMAO

>>18391085
>Steven King wants to have a word with you
does he need more cocaine?

>>18391085
Whose 'Steven' King?

>>18391153
He's a far right politician from California.

>>18391153
Yours, America's.

>>18384011
N

>>18383855
>poo
let me guess, you're a 28 year old woman who still cakes her face up in black lip-stick and eyeliner.

>>18383855
America isn’t a race so it’s not even an interesting category to define literature by. And when you realize thsi it’s only slightly interesting that America seems to drain literary ability from its population.

>>18384441
jfc I hope you don't believe this.
>>18390772
terrible

>>18386380
He sucks and he’s not witty at All. Case and point was he thought Wagner was shit yet thinks Huckleberry Finn was good.

He’s clueless about art. Just little quips is all he thinks is fine art. He’s basically a proto-marvel movie right down to the gay marriage counseling scene

>>18384501
Poe is great. His influence is ever greater.

>>18383855
best American writer is Thomas Jefferson because he wrote America into existence

>>18392055
is that what they taught you at school, Kevin?

>>18384073
thank u for ur service

>>18383855
It's actually Steinbeck.

>>18384011
Ralph Ellison BTFOs her as a black writer, and Flan O'Connor BTFOs her as a woman writer, so there

>>18389837
Ellison is great, dumbass.

>>18384573
>be me
>lying in bed at night
>hear a knock on the window
>open it, a raven flies in
>repeatedly calls me the N word
>won't leave
>mfw

>>18392751
black people are incapable of of the critical thinking skills needed to produce great works of literature or philosophy.

>>18391604
I can’t agree with him regarding Wagner, but you read Mark Twain for pure lighthearted entertainment and for his pertinent insights which were very relevant in his day. We clearly have a different sense of humor. His work isn’t high art but I find it a refreshing change of pace compared to the “serious” works of his contemporaries.

>>18386380
Based. Although I have read much better writers then Twain, Twain is and will always be my favorite. Only writer where I will be laughing out loud multiple times a page over the most mundane things happening. I wish I could meet him and talk with him.

>>18394381
>His work isn’t high art
filtered

>>18393915

IT'S MELVILLE AND HIS BEST WRITING IS CHAPTER 15 FROM MOBY DICK, "CHOWDER," AND ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE WILL BE KEELHAULED.

>>18396059
why you gotta make a nigger be cravin chowdah at midnight my niiga ughhh

>>18389872
you're missing out, check out portrait of a lady

>>18396156
>However, a warm savory steam from the kitchen served to belie the apparently cheerless prospect before us. But when that smoking chowder came in, the mystery was delightfully explained. Oh! sweet friends, hearken to me. It was made of small juicy clams, scarcely bigger than hazel nuts, mixed with pounded ship biscuits, and salted pork cut up into little flakes! the whole enriched with butter, and plentifully seasoned with pepper and salt. Our appetites being sharpened by the frosty voyage, and in particular, Queequeg seeing his favourite fishing food before him, and the chowder being surpassingly excellent, we despatched it with great expedition: when leaning back a moment and bethinking me of Mrs. Hussey’s clam and cod announcement, I thought I would try a little experiment. Stepping to the kitchen door, I uttered the word “cod” with great emphasis, and resumed my seat. In a few moments the savoury steam came forth again, but with a different flavor, and in good time a fine cod-chowder was placed before us.
>We resumed business; and while plying our spoons in the bowl, thinks I to myself, I wonder now if this here has any effect on the head? What’s that stultifying saying about chowder-headed people? “But look, Queequeg, ain’t that a live eel in your bowl? Where’s your harpoon?”

>>18396059
Is that the one where the cook is woken up to chase away the sharks

>>18397633
No, it's the one toward the beginning where he and Queequeg are having dinner at the inn.

>>18398190
He being Ishmael, ofc

based

it's Steinbeck for me

SOMEBODY SUMMON FUCKHENRYJAMES POSTER

I like Lovecraft :)