/lit/ - Literature

>>18405583
Makes me feel like a retard whenever I think about it

>>18405583
Yeah, he also took lots of cocks at 17

>>18405583
No. he arrived at Paris when he was 17 in 1871. A Season in Hell was written in 1873 when he was 19 and the Illuminatios were written about 1974 when he was 20. He was out of literature in 1975 when he was 21.

>extraordinary talented guy did something better than you
i don't exactly see this as an earth-shattering existential crisis

>>18405583
he was writing poems in latin at 15, and winning contests for them.

>>18405583
He lived more of a life than I ever will before he was 20, makes me want to just fucking end it right now.

>>18405920
this lol,

>>18405920
>some people will just naturally be exceptionally better than you and no matter how hard you try you will never come close.

how is this not earth shattering? it's the reason a lot of people neck themselves for sure.

a lot of things are like this. most of the best music was written by children, essentially. how they manage to write such complex things when most people have barely begun their life is beyond me. Depressingly, even these people usually rapidly decline after that, and by the time they're 30 or so they're pretty much done. We never had a chance, anons.

>>18407773
did it really take you this long to figure out you weren't a genius. this isn't earth shattering for normal people since they were never under this impression

>>18407814
the public school system is based on the opposite
basically everyone who isn't beaten is coddled

And? Kant didn't write the first critique until he was in his 50's and Caesar was a nobody until he was like 40.

There are no hard rules for life OP. If you're intimidated by the fact that some famous people reached their highest achievements while still young then start working on yourself instead of bitching about it on here.

>>18408014
Correct.

>>18408014
Zizek only made the connection between an old joke about five jews in a carrousel and the movie Kung Fu Panda when he was 60

>>18405583
>Throughout the five years that they attended the school, however, their formidable mother still imposed her will upon them, pushing them for scholastic success. She would punish her sons by making them learn a hundred lines of Latin verse by heart, and further punish any mistakes by depriving them of meals.
Don't beat yourself up, anon. Almost any figure who achieved at a young age (Rimbaud, Mozart, etc.) was abused by their parents.

>>18408157
true
Also OP writing is not a competition, sure we'll never be Rimbaud or Baudelaire, probably not even Prudhomme, but we might make one or two unknown people smile and get our ideas across. This is quite enough imo, making some people care about what you care with your talent.

>>18407814
fuck you, you know exactly what he means and are just being obtuse. Fact: any normal person, upon being presented with the information that some incredible artwork was made by a child, will respond with something like 'wow, makes me feel like a failure haha'. If you can't see this, you're autistic. Simple as.

>>18407773
oh no, we aren't made equally, the horror

>>18405826
>1974 when he was 20
What is he a vampire, too?

>>18405583
Rimbaud caught autism from a toilet seat and was beaten to death by a homophobic Turkish immigrant after propositioning him at a crosswalk. You're already doing better than him just by not having a name that lends itself to rim job puns! The man could barely spell his own name.

>>18407722
At least you get to know about it. Maybe larp a little bit and imagine that you did too.

>>18405583
life moved faster back then anon. he was also gay and died at 37 so whatever

>>18407722
You too can run around England with a psychopathic gay man anon, go chase your dreams

>>18408683
kek

>>18405583
Céline published Journey to the End of the Night when he was 36. It's okay.

>>18408672
It's not that we're not all equal, but that the superiority of someone invalidates the existence of the inferior ones by the mere fact of his/her existence.

>>18409053
no it doesn't, you know it, stop being a pompous tryhard

>>18408157
>Rimbaud, Mozart, etc.)
Michael Jackson...
God, I wish I was "abused" by my parents...

>>18409030
>Céline published Journey to the End of the Night when he was 36. It's okay.
Today is my birthday. 27. Not okay.

So?
Read Leopardi's Zibaldone and the Autobiographies of Vico, Ruskin and Goethe and maybe then you'll realise what hard work actually means.

>>18409087
It's never too late. Want me to adopt you?

>tfw I was writing fanfiction at 17

>>18409099
happy birthday anon!!!

>>18408157
I was abused by my parents but I didn't end up talented or become a genius.

>>18407773
How do you know he's exceptionally better than you? Have you tried to write anything?

>>18410079
Either you're one of the lucky ones who get to wallow in their misery in the quiet instead of the limelight. Or you're guardians tried the Joe Jackson approach and just didn't do a good enough job, you worthless peace of filth!

>>18405583
just read it, yep can confirm it sounds like something a teenager would write

>Faulkner wrote TSATF when he was 32

>>18408105
>five jews in a carrousel
What the fuck?

>>18405583
Who?

He was clearly a prodigy but he also lived in a time and place where such a thing wasn’t quite as abnormal or discouraged as it is today. Neither were there as many distractions as there are today.

I see people here beat themselves up a lot because they’re not successfully publishing at 20, which is not realistic. I’m not one of these people who believes that you can just start reading deeply at 26 and become a great novelists. I do think you have to immerse much earlier than that. But it is dumb to beat yourself up because you’re not better than Rimbaud. Hell, if Rimbaud had been alive today he almost certainly would’ve been posting on 4chan rather than writing poetry.

>>18412365
I wonder how men chasms greater than us would have fared in our current time.

>>18412401
I don’t think you could ever say conclusively. You could only speculate. Personally, I don’t believe people are so much directors of lived experience as we are swimmers, sailors, or surfers. We’re pretty beholden to the currents of our time and place and though we might have this or that attribute or this or that inclination or this that proclivity to do some action, at best we are only ever responding to the waves that we find ourselves in. You can do a lot in those waves but it wouldn’t make sense to
compare two people swimming in two unlike currents. You know what I mean?

>>18405676
well at least I got that part covered

>>18408630
projection

>>18405676
how can a man be so BASED?

>>18409030
I'm 42 anon...

>>18409030
Celine was French. He does not count.

>>18405583
bump

>>18408014
>Caesar was a nobody until 40
Not even remotely true

>>18405583
Yeah, it shows...

>>18410000
cheked