/lit/ - Literature

>>18509209
>$25 per book proft
Good one anon

you making notebooks, or did you write something you hope people will read?

>>18509209
For that money you could have gotten a small stitcher, shear and folder second hand and probably had cash left over. Or just skip the stitcher and use a deep throat heavy duty stapler for less money. Plus they would be simple mechanical affairs and easy to maintain. But good on you for doing this, when it starts failing look for old dedicated machines to replace it.

>anon has the means of production
We need to find out where he lives and rob him.

>>18509286
Inflation, people will totally pay $25 for a book, dinners at a pub are already $20+ while a pint of beer is $9+

>>18509290
I'm pretty sure I will find readers as it is incredibly based compared to any other modern literature you'd find.

>>18509323
Perfect bind is what people think looks the most professional. At least, that's what the people I know think...

>>18509334
top hue

>>18509334
Once I sell my first book that I imagined, wrote, edited, printed, cut, and bound... will feel really good.

>>18509609
Yes, but you do not need such a machine for that, A folder to make the signatures, a shear to cut them apart/even the ends, a stitcher or heavy duty stapler* to bind the signatures than a press (heavy weights or a proper book press) to bind the book, apply glue to signature ends, apply cover, press. Perfect binding is much older than these machines and in industry it is still done with dedicated machines for the most part. The one real advantage of the more manual old way is that you can leave them in the press longer without tying up everything, which means a tighter binding and a longer life.

Staples are probably the better choice for small scale, the only advantage of a sticher is it is slightly faster but that speed increase is not really noticed until you get to fairly high production numbers, might save 30 minutes for 100 books. Ultimately a stitcher is just a fancy stapler which can go through a very large number of sheets but small scale home print shop is not going to have signatures large enough to really justify the increased cost/space of a stitcher.

>>18509755
Should add, for smaller signatures you can stitch with a sewing machine, ye old cheap and chearful singer 99 can probably manage to go through 10 or 12 sheets of standard book paper. Will create robust signatures but signatures do not need to be all that robust. Great way to make quality pamphlet type books. Dense paper is not the best for this method, the light paper used in most paper backs is perfect.

>>18509334
>>anon has the means of production
>We need to find out where he lives and rob him.
What of the machine that made the binder machine

>>18509801
That’s wealth. We need to redistribute that one to collective ownership.

>>18509755
Yes but a machine will allow me to crank out book after book after book with the least amount of effort...

90% of making this business successful is being able to write every day without being tied up too much with printing, cutting, binding, shipping, customer service, marketing...

Thinking about doing a "before & after" type marketing ad for instagram... with a "Call The Shitkickers and hire them today!" or something along the bottom.

>link related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=KszV8rFqRLA

>>18509896
Remember my first post, and what I said.
>Think about getting individual machines WHEN that one starts failing. Either way, doing a run of 50 with the individual machines is a lazy Saturday worth of work, not very time consuming once you get the process down and repairing those machines can be done with a visit to the hardware store so less risk of downtime.

>>18509951
I've been trying to bind my own books with various glue and some hand-made presses but the spines are just not consistent enough... and some are lumpy... I went with the $700 machine to, hopefully, give me a consistent product that can be made by a future employee...

>>18509951
I picked up one of these bad mofos, so cutting is now a breeze. The printer works great but is low on toner. A Brother 5200DW.

If I can earn even half as much as the Canadian black rappers I see with massive stacks of cash in their videos, I'll be good!

>>18509999
Leave the signatures in the press overnight unglued, it will keep things from springing so much, for the overnight press leave none of the end sticking out. Figure your cover thickness fold, take out the signatures, grab one book, glue down the spine, apply cover, rubber roller over spine, into the press. That is probably the simplest way since it is one book at a time. Bumpy spine suggest to much glue or cover is to thick, depends on which way the bumps run.

Smyth sewn is actually easier by hand, but it take considerably longer to get quick at it, perfect binding you can learn to do well and quickly in a couple hours if you got someone to show you.

>>18509603
Haha this your book anon? Cool cover bro. Hope you can get it out there and have people read it. If I had more time, I'd read more 4chan stuff.

>>18509603
I'll buy 1 to support an anon, if you'll sign it and leave a based message

>>18510131
Thanks anon! Still working on getting everything perfect... don't want to half-ass the book release!

>>18510165
Thanks anon! I'll be shilling the fucking shit out of it here when the quality is high enough to send out the door!

>>18509209
Lol nice one anon.
/lit/ needs to start a bookbinder collective or something. There's enough of us here.

>>18510196
im going to hang you by your intestines. death to all canadians. day of the rake very soon.

>>18511230
Canada used to be great...

>>18509655
>Once I sell my first book that I imagined, wrote, edited, printed, cut, and bound... will feel really good.
Based whole process, anon.

>>18513575
When I released my first book, I bought copies and sold them at bars and through a couple friends via word-of-mouth.
>Sold a hundred copies?
I was still making good money in another industry so I didn't really market the book at all. It wasn't until a few years later that I realized I wrote it as a confessional to all the things I wish I hadn't had become. Thankfully, the act of that confession allowed me to get out of that lifestyle.
>I wrote a ton as a kid after playing a game I really liked, Hillsafar
>I wrote a ton as a teen
>I wrote a massive shit-fuck-ton in adulthood
As I get older, writing gets easier and my work gets deeper, I feel like I'm finally ready to really jump two-feet in and actually promote my next book via ads. It feels like the right moment to become the author I was meant to be after a 20 year detour in life.

>>18510196
Good to see other people on here trying to succeed with their books. Wish we could have a /lit/-produced collection or something for people who wanted to support the authors on here.

>>18514046
Mainstream music, books, video games... they are all so incredibly and totally overwhelmed with IDpol...

As a Canadian straight white male, I feel like there is no hope other than to self-publish and work at marketing each and every single day.

>>18509334
Does a chicken count as means of production? Just curious.

does this bind with thread?

>>18514114
Hot glue

>>18514081
I feel you on that, my fellow straight white Canadian male. I've gotten book deals before and been published fairly widely, but even I'm now resorting to self-publishing my more controversial works. The industry's a mess.

>>18511230
> t. Ricelet.

>>18514081
>work at marketing each and every single day.
It would probably be more effective to hire that part out. Willing to bet there are at least a few small firms which specialize in dealing with small publishers.

>>18514940
>>18514081
> Gooood.... good.
All jokes aside, I feel for you guys, and I'd love to help out once shit is set up.

>>18514081
>>18514940
>>18514979
I want to start a publishing company for stuff like this. Idk about you guys but I'm based near Vancouver and have a website mostly finished.

If any of you want to talk about trying to set up some sort of collective pic related is my email address. I'm trying to get together a substantial enough catalogue to have something to offer, then cold-calling the hell out of different bookstores and trying to set up speaking tours. My plan is to get a bunch of books on one website, so each book will act as marketing for all the other books.

>>18509801
bros... theres just no end

>>18514940
I have felt completely and totally cultureless and dispossessed for the last 10 years, it is like my generation of Vancouverites never existed... nobody even remembers Clubvibes.com anymore...

>>18515213
Will email you bro. Feeling a bit demoralized at the moment but making a super fucking spicy dinner to shake the blues. I lifted hard today and went for a drive, still demoralized!

>>18515213
Are you planning on publishing schizo white man shit, or just have a platform available where you won't be denied for not being a black transgender disabled lesbian vet?

>>18514971
I have been thinking that what I need to do is price my book at $25 but then build a quick and dirty affiliate program so people on Instagram, YouTube, Twitter, etc could plug my book and get like $5 per book sale they refer but if they can sell 10+ books a day I'll give them $10 a sale.

>>18516383
Would you read my shit and give me a schizo raiting out of 10? Haha

>>18509591
t. not thrifty
lmao dude my Guinness is $6 a pint, if I go out. I cook my own food, and the only books I will buy for more than $15 is new textbooks or esoteric hard to find shit. All else is bought on [REDACTED] for $0.99 - $4.99. In fact, most of my textbooks were less than $3 because of this. So if you think I'm going to spend $25 on your random string of text, you are on crack.
Others are likely to do it, so good luck and have fun.

>>18516407
Random string of text?
>My book is literally a gift from God, visions of a world that doesn't exist and manifests into a coherent story that is very applicable to 2021 Vancouver, but also the rest of the western world with the theme of defund the police and society going to shit.
>Your book isn't worth $25
And a house in the west side of Vancouver is worth $4 million?

>>18516415
>And a house in the west side of Vancouver is worth $4 million?
Not to me, but to someone. I wouldn't take money to live in Canada. Especially not after the C-10 situation.
Good luck anyways.

>>18516432
The government in Canada is a paper tiger, 100%

>>18516448
OMW to conquer Canada if the chinks don't beat me to it.

>>18516451
Kills me inside to think that if I put on a dress and called myself a woman I'd get more support and more attention than being a straight white male saying: "I wrote a book!"

>>18516383
>Are you planning on publishing schizo white man shit, or just have a platform available where you won't be denied for not being a black transgender disabled lesbian vet?
I'm panning on publishing the kind of stuff I like to read desu. Probably not going to publish anything that would get me labeled a domestic terrorist, but I'm sick of the industry being controlled exclusively by over-socialized white women with a political agenda. Anyways I'm a college dropout so the only way I'm getting into this industry is doing it myself.

>>18516388
Post it.

>>18516556
I have a couple things to correct still, just got to add a bit of polish. Can be fixed in 1-2 days, ITCHING to get my fucking gear so I can print this shit...

Let me know if Act 1 lures you in for the rest!

https://jason-bryan.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/tsk-act1-unpolished.pdf

>>18515213
I'm also based around Vancouver. I have experience with this, as I've already established my own publishing imprint and published several books through it. I'll shoot you an email.

>>18516385
In my experience the time/money is not saved here, you can wash dishes one night a week to cover the expense and come out ahead in time and money. Getting access to their connections is worth it alone and they often get cheap ad rates which they pass along to the client. I would strongly recommend looking into it before you decide, it is a shit load of work to do on your own. This is one step of the process I would never do again, but some dont mind it.

>>18516573
I run a writers' group for young artists here in Van. We've got about 500 members at present. You'd be perfect for our meetings.

>>18516573
So, a Leaflet "Nobody"?

>>18516573
> Samantha is a CSIS or RCMP undercover agent
calling it.

>>18516725
Did you read that fast?! Did you like the pacing

>>18516603
Young? I'm 43 faggot(haha)

>>18516760
(haha)

>>18516760
Well, you definitely aren't young, then. But if you're cool, we could always bend the rules for you. Too many of the people who come through are fags.

>>18516803
I'm so pissed off right now I've had the fucking hiccups for like 30+ minutes

>>18516725
Email me at jason@jason-bryan.com and I'll send you act 2 and see if you like it!

>>18516755
>>18516895
I actually really liked it.
Even as someone who doesn't like white man schizo shit, it was very well written, and you have a good sense of tension building. Some scenes were legit stressful.
tbqh it really wasn't that schizoid. The Aziz character was fucking hilarious.

>>18516906
Email me! I will gladly send you the rest. This has been a labour of love.

>>18509209
whatever you do, don't tell any communists that you own one of these
https://rumble.com/vcejuz-the-newspaperman.html

>>18516906
Aziz is a major character in book 2

>>18516916
Done. Probably won't binge the second part tonight, had a long shift and tomorrow is St-Jean (which doesn't mean I get to party, no, fuck no, I work emergency services).

>>18516985
Godspeed anon,

I appreciate you more than words