/lit/ - Literature

>>18527873
There is no such thing as an "overused trope", that would be a cliché.

>>18527873
>>"quantum" anything

>>18527873
If you’ve picked up multiple books where someone gets bitten by a zombie that’s your fault

>>18527873
You are getting angry about genre fiction using tropes? Have you only read like 10 books or something?

>>18529253
This

>>18527886
Holy kek

>>18527873
>>the goddamn "human bad, nature good" shit (more so with film)
I'm honestly thinking about writing a 'human bad, nature even worse'. What do you think?

>>18529253
Kek

>>18529285
Moby Dick

>>18529297
Really? Honestly? I have to read that thing. Going to look for a good edition to read on my kindle right now.

>>18529285
Age old, essentially just man vs human nature

>>18529313
Not that nature, actual nature. The one who threw covid at us.

>>18527873
Would you be willing to read my book's first act and give your honest opinion?

>>18529285

Human nature as part of nature bad
Nature as part of human okay
Human okay bad nature as of
okayofasbadnaturehuman

>>18529325
I know, from a literary standpoint they are essentially the same trope, they are both man vs nature and both are age old.

>>18527873
I HATE TIME TRAVEL STORIES

>>18527873
>da hero's journey
Dude you’d have an easier time dodging raindrops in a thunderstorm than avoiding this in something that isn’t a short story collection or something
I’m fairly certain this is at least 70% of all literature, and this observation is not unique

>>18529335
post it

>>18529681
Enjoy!

https://jason-bryan.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/tsk-act1-unpolished.pdf

>>18529297
More like MY DICK

>>18529686
Better than Gardner but not as good as Waldun and that's my honest criticism

>>18529325
Butcher's Crossing is about a dreamy Harvard kid who thinks human bad, nature good then goes out into nature and it fucking shatters his illusions

>>18529307
The first thing about Dark Romanticism (Melville's movement) was that it painted nature as a brutal, treacherous and dangerous force, not to be trifled with, and which lured men to their demise.

>>18529805
Thanks... how much did you read?

>>18529857
The first two pages, and from that I can't judge the plot or the characters at all, only the style and the writing, which is ranked as I said before

>>18529285
Made in abyss

>>18530046
Oh shoot! I thought you had read the entire act 1.

How would you describe my writing compared to Walden's? Which Walden book should I read?

Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it!

>>18527873
Those are all the types of movies I like. You're gay and boring op.

What is that image from? I've seen it but can remember

>>18527886

>>18529820
Thanks for the recc, I had been looking for something anti-Ted to read for a while

>>18529686
It looks interesting and I am going to read it in its entirety over the course of next few days (I have way too much free time on my hands rn) and then I will form my opinion. I honestly love to read unpublished works, be it anything Elliot Rodger, Truth vs. Lies or even fanfics (sometimes). Reading unpublished works just seems more real and intimate for some reason than reading something millions have read before you.

>>18527873
>i got everything i thought i wanted
>but still i was sad

>>18530146
>Elliot Rodger
Crazy synchronicity with that name and my book!

>>18530120
It's less anti-Ted and moreso explicitly anti-Emerson, against the whole Transcendentalist ideal of nature being a peaceful, spiritual place.
If anything it's pro-Ted because humanity absolutely destroying the buffalo, and possibly deserving some kind of righteous backlash for it, is a huge part of the novel.

>>18530174
Give your goodreads, or email or telegram or something to contact you once I read it

>>18530191
If you like it, I'll send the other acts... my hot glue perfect binder machine doesn't get here until July 13th :(

>>18529686
I skimmed it and gave it 6/10. Lacks focus.

>>18530285
Lacks focus? I think it is a great act 1, showing the character experience several negative things in a row, his problems increase, he has an outburst and liberates his stolen bicycle. Then the end of act 1 sets up Ken for the act 2 that has him caught up in something much bigger than just his stolen bike...

>characters
>linear plot
>chapters
>starts at *a* beginning
>purple prose
>simple prose
>prose
>poetic excerpts
>allusions to myth
>references to literature
>intertextuality
>mimesis
>standardised grammar
>uniform spelling

>>18529335
Hey, it's shit kickers guy. Post your first act bro. I'll read it.

>>18530600
Yes sir!

Hope you enjoy it:

https://jason-bryan.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/tsk-act1-unpolished.pdf

>>18529686
Over describing immaterial aspects become tedious. Provide a reason for the descriptions. But I can understand if you are setting the scene or tone, but not everything needs such descriptors. Scene setting or tone/atmosphere can and possibly requires it. But not every single item/aspect needs it. And when you do, it's just within the sentences and not exactly multiple sentences, providing a reader an overall sense of why the descriptors are needed. Mix it up, and save the reader's time; banking it to use that time for some meat and bones of what really needs the emphasis.

I will read the whole book on my laptop (phone fagging it now), but the first several pages made me write the above.
t. just a reader

>>18530731
Thanks! I think you'll find less of that as the story picks up!

>>18527873
Sounds like you are reading nothing but trashy sci fi.

>>18527873
When the opposite of the expected outcome occurs, rather than a genuinely creative third option.

>>18530862
This is a good way of putting it