/lit/ - Literature

>>18554566
you can get things out of fiction too, you can get things out of movies too and probably some video games

non fiction is literally just fiction but more boring

>>18554639
interesting and based take

How about just enjoying art for the sake of art? Wasted time is so subjective idea it doesn't even mean anything.

>>18554639
Dumb take

>>18554663
This. I don’t understand why aesthetic appreciation isn’t a sufficient enough reason for people to read fiction.
Would you walk through an art gallery and at the end of the day, while leaving, say ‘Wow that was a waste of time?’

>>18554774
Yes

>>18554566
Good fiction can see the world through the hallucinations of the author, an entertaining book being something that could be believable as non-fiction, especially when years later it proves to have foreseen the future!

>>18554774
>Would you walk through an art gallery and at the end of the day, while leaving, say ‘Wow that was a waste of time?’
Hmm yea lol

>>18554566
Imagine being such a pseud you completely write off experiencing any of the wonderful fiction classics we've been blessed co exist with and have easy access to. I'm so glad I'm not such a hollow bugman.

>>18556050
Amen.

>>18554774
>This. I don’t understand why aesthetic appreciation isn’t a sufficient enough reason for people to read fiction.
its hollow

>>18556109
desperately trying to appear intellectual by taking absurd stances like eschuing all fiction because of your huge genius brain is even more hollow.

>>18554774
Yeah, everything has to go through some qualitative scale measuring depth and utility and relevance which turns viewing art into some stringent, soulless process. Standards and taste are a means to an end but can quickly betray their purpose if overvalued.

are all of the arts - visual, music, film etc. - a 'waste of time'?
is beauty a waste of time, is spirituality a waste of time, if they don't bring any material gain?
i would argue no, but then i also believe in god despite my material position in life.
if nothing else, the arts, specifically literature, allow me to feel more connected to fellow humans than i ever do in most social situations.

Most nonfiction books are written poorly and are overly long. I feel like I learned more from literature than from nonfiction. Also how many nonfiction books that are published now will still be read in 50 years? Not a lot I bet while people will still be reading the great literary works.

>>18556779
but I'm reading Plato

>>18554566
>The value in stories is that you can apply the lessons from the good ones to your actual life
it never works like that, life is too much about sending signals about something you want to happen rather than "making your own happiness"

>>18554566
>studying history
How do you know that isn't also fiction?

>>18554791
based

>>18558068
but Plato is written poorly and overly long

>>18554566
Think about it logically. You're reading another grown man's made up fantasy story. Is there anything gayer?

>>18558326
>new age graphic design illustration
Yeah we can tell you’re just a pseud philistine who justifies his bad taste by trying to act like it’s useless.

>>18554566
I feel like being able to accurately express your ideas in the form of characters, plot, and images requires far more talent than just spitting them out raw. Most nonfiction is also dreadfully written and often fiction authors have far more based, enlightened views.

>>18554566
is this another cope thread by the canadian boomer who got btfo