/lit/ - Literature

Buckle up.

>>18656651
Wouldn't a person seeking a job in a massive and inefficient bureaucracy like EU most likely be exactly the kind of person devoid of any creative drive and passion in his life? I can't imagine writing Excel documents for 4 hours per day and then pretending to work for another 4 being the kind of life that enables literary talents to flourish.

>>18656651
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/100books/en/list

This list features all the books you wanna know about the construction of the European Union over the decades.
also, pepe looks great as an EUropean

>>18656651
The Fourth Industrial Revolution by Klaus Schwab

>>18656662
Pffff. When was this written? Post covid disaster should be the nail in the EU/neoliberal coffin

>>18656662
Holy shit this seems promising. I'll read this and I hope it'll make my eurosceptic normie friends seethe much.
>>18656651
COVID-19 The Great Reset
Complete Works of Altiero Spinelli

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>>18656676
Not at all. I think this is a cope like "all people capable of navigating a complex bureaucracy must be boring" is a cope like "all rich people are secretly depressed".
The truth is that these people see themselves as truly doing the good work for the right side of history and all that, and they, for the most part, derive a immense sense of satisfaction out of it.

Where their creativity is limited, and this is just from personal experience and only accounts for a type among the bigger group, is in understanding why anyone else wouldn't think they way they would. They can't grasp it at and see it as a kind of unchecked insanity. A problem of mental illness rather than ideological difference.

>>18656706
Wear the seatbelt, tranny. Better yet, don't.

>>18656721
That seatbelt attached to a boulder being pushed over a cliff? No.

>>18656676
To be honest, the EU efficiently suppresses red tape over all of its nation states (that also includes all the EFTA members).
For example, if you want to send a letter from Germany to Sweden or Ireland, the cost will be minimal. But if you want import your package from England, Serbia, China or Russia, get ready to spend some more + fill useless paperwork.

However, paperwork has always been nauseating in certain EU member states, like France, Italy and Spain. Don't blame the Union for that, blame the failing national govs who struggle to change the establishment.

>>18656706
Fuck you butters

>>18656732
* the EU efficiently suppresses red tape for all of its

sorry for the typo, btw.

>>18656662
OP here, please no books written by women. I hate their style.

>>18656731

>>18656744
The hell man?

>>18656759

>>18656662
You can't justify paternalism without a baseless system of morality

>>18656759
I can listen to them and everything, but something trips me up about their writing style. There's lots of fluff. I have recently tried reading a non-fiction book by a woman and it began with something like this
>The horrifying events of George Floyd's death that we have experienced such a long time ago, and yet are still fresh in our memory, were caused by none other than villains. Remember Thanos from infinity world? Oh yeah, he was a very bad person. But the threat that the white supremacists pose is very real. White supremacists exist because of systemic racism, and this book explores our Real World Superheroes who tweak algorithms that contribute to it.
This is an exaggeration obviously, but they present absolutely everything in this particularly odd way. I haven't read a single book by a male author that referenced anything other than some classic movie or another book

>>18656806
I refuse to believe you didn't write this excerpt yourself to exaggerate how bad women are at writing. Even as an ESL this is embarassingly bad at multiple levels starting with the style and ending with pompous sentimentality and moral self-righteousness

>>18656806
Give the title of the book, please.
Because
>George Floyd was a poor, black gentle giant.
>many such years ago, there was a ebic movie called Avengers with
>THANOS, DA PURPLE BAD GUYE? 'MEMBER DAT MOOVIE? WITH LE SUPERHERO? LE PEW-PEW IN SPACE?
>AND THEN WHITES. EVIL NASTY WHITE PEOPLE WANT TO FUCK GENTLE BLACKS TO DEATH. EVIL WHITE MOTHER FUCKERS.
Holy shit, this is bad.

>>18656769
I like this new meme

>>18656823
>>18656844
I assure you that it was written in this way. I dropped it right after the introduction. Women who write textbooks rarely showcase any of the characteristics that are particular to their gender when writing books, but I'm not looking for textbooks. Refusing to read non-fictional (fiction is actually okay, I enjoyed Persuasion, Frankenstein, Wuthering Heights) seems like a great filter for this sort of stuff.
I don't remember the name, but the first chapter was about some firefighters (if that helps).

>>18656715
>The truth is that these people see themselves as truly doing the good work for the right side of history and all that, and they, for the most part, derive a immense sense of satisfaction out of it.
It's sad but you're right,EU fags that aren't in positions of power are also this delusional
I hope something happens and Europe somehow saves itself

>>18656862
Is the obvious contradictory nature of it? How it makes the poster look like a boob.
Or you just like the chiseled face?

>>18656806
Males write poorly too.

>>18656901
It seems like some redditfag meme who realized that instead of spamming this kind of shit on discord, he can also spam it here

>>18656759
That's not a woman, that's a vampire

>>18656651
I have to admit I have a very dim view of Europe's future. They will not survive the human wave of climate refugees which is coming.

>They won't let them in!!!
Be real, they will let everyone in.

>>18656913
I haven't said that they don't. I just haven't seen any of these things in books written by males. They rarely reflect anything else than the subject matter of the book. There's always a nice and logical flow of thinking. All premises are explained. Some women do it too, but I'm not going to read one recommended to me by a completely anonymous person. There are so many books I'd like to read, so filtering some of them makes more sense.
>>18656936
Since we are on /lit/, instead of throwing blank statements that belong on other boards, recommend books/reference people that have explored the issue, and then we could talk about it.

>>18656982
Here you are, a book which I consider to be an accurate depiction and prediction of Europe.

>>18656803
kek, I might buy this just for the giggles

>>18656992
Thanks, I'll check it out and maybe make a thread about it if it's worth discussing.

>>18657002
He's a midwit middle-aged neo-con shill, but hey, at the very least, he's not a Qboomer.

>>18657022
It's okay. I'm actually not even pro or against the EU. I just think that as a citizen of a country where the only sensible political party is eurosceptic (Poland), it makes some sense to establish some views regarding the.topic to see just how sensible that party is. Also, I think that EU is quite an impressive creation, so I'd like to learn whatever lessons that there are from the technocrats

>>18656651
Kojève, Marc, Rougemont, Maulnier

>>18657076
Any particular books? From my experience people of this kind often write a number of books, and sometimes it's hard to understand which ones do people actually recommend

>>18656706
>Post covid disaster should be the nail in the EU/neoliberal coffin
One can hope but these things are like cockroaches, they never fucking die

Luuk van Middelaar, The Passage to Europe. He has worked at the highest level as among others things a speech writer for the president of the Euro Commission. Explains the workings of the Union analytically and through (personally experienced) high diplomatic events. Argues for Europe to become 'mature' on the world stage by adopting more Realpolitik.

We're building back better.

btw any good books about the Queen on European conservatism?

>>18656992
Murray explores two factors that explain why European civilization as we have known it will not survive. The first is the combination of mass migration of new peoples into the continent together with Europe's below replacement birth rates.

What people fail to realize is that when muslims come to Europe, they become more european, it's not the europeans who become more muslim. Sure, I might eat kebab some time, but I will not start going to mosque, while it's "muslism" who will speak my language, go to the same school, listen to the same music I listen, watch the same movies etc. Immigrants are mostly young(er than general population), and also less likely to face discrimination from their peers --->No reason to become an extremist if people are nice to you.
On top of that, muslims/arabs/africans/paki are not the majority of immigrants.
In my country, the top 5 foreign communities are three European countries (1st from EU - this one alone outnumbers ALL Africa -, 2nd and 5th non-EU), one Asian, one North Africa.

>>18657187
>No reason to become an extremist if people are nice to you.
and as we know that worked out perfectly for you guys

>>18657395
>you guys
Which is...?

>>18657187
>What people fail to realize is that when muslims come to Europe, they become more european, it's not the europeans who become more muslim. Sure, I might eat kebab some time, but I will not start going to mosque, while it's "muslism" who will speak my language, go to the same school, listen to the same music I listen, watch the same movies etc. Immigrants are mostly young(er than general population), and also less likely to face discrimination from their peers --->No reason to become an extremist if people are nice to you.
>On top of that, muslims/arabs/africans/paki are not the majority of immigrants.
>In my country, the top 5 foreign communities are three European countries (1st from EU - this one alone outnumbers ALL Africa -, 2nd and 5th non-EU), one Asian, one North Africa.
the absolute wealing cope

>>18657530
>f-facts are cope!

>>18657608
fact aren't cope which why your post is cope

>>18657187
I don't buy this at all, for one reason. These are Muslims who are immigrating to Europe, and Islam is a religion which has reversed modernity and liberal societies again and again in the course of its history. The second Muslims become the majority in Europe, there is always the chance that a Salafi-style faction will rise to power. It's happened several times in recent Islamic history, from Saudi Arabia after the Grand Mosque seizure, to the Iranian Revolution to the rise of the Taliban. People always think that religion gives away to modernity and the freedoms of a liberal society. Islam is different.

>>18656651
I'm honestly shocked how the Europeans haven't already Mussolini'd these faggots with the way they've driven Europe into the ground.
The again, bread and circus are a powerful force in politics, and they have gotten that down pat.

>>18657644
>The second Muslims become the majority
they don't even have to, a significant portion will suffice see lebanon

>>18657608
In my country many schools don't serve pork anymore and even fucking gummy candy is made without gelatin nowadays so the Muslims won't be mad there are pig feet in the candy

Fuck you and fuck every single 105 IQ upper middle class commie.

>>18657644
>The second Muslims become the majority in Europe
>there is always the chance that a Salafi-style faction will rise to power.
And when will this happen, according to (you)

>>18657676
>upper middle class
I'm not
>In my country many schools don't serve pork anymore
You say this as if school meals have ever been good in the first place.

>>18657680
since you are probably american a small pro tip here: this is a map of the maghreb

>>18657680
In most western European nations native births are around half or less than half already.
You do the math.

>>18657688
>school lunch weren't good therefore western societies aren't getting Islamised
>i share a board with such retards
grim

>>18657680
....
On your map, we have several nations where Islamist ideologies and groups are taking over, engaged in major conflict, or have taken over. What point are you trying to prove? I don't care if rates of religiosity have taken a temporary dip. The history shows that in Islamic societies, religion is always a powerful force, which in times of hardship takes over.

>>18657688
It was an example of how Muslims coming to western Europe changes their host nation and not the reverse you subversive kike.

>>18657705
yeah but like school lunches weren't good
checkmate

>>18657691
>he missed the point
Ok, have a nice day, you singlehandedly convinced me there's no point in staying sober for another 24h

>>18657729
>he missed the point
it's easy to miss what isn't there

>>18656936
>dim view of Europe's future.
It goes deeper then that, and affects the entire world.
If only you knew how bad things were