/lit/ - Literature

I know I have a voice and real ability but I haven’t written in so long and have let my mind become so soft that I am afraid I won’t be able to get it out.

After years of mental squalor and numbness, the only thing that forces my hand to pen is the relentless fire that burns within me. The faint murmurs of optimism that refuse to be extinguished. I am alive.

i haven’t been hugged in 14 years.

You are God.
Sup, dude?? How ya been?

yesterday on my way back from work I paid a prostitute 20 euros above the average rate and she thanked me with such a genuine smile that it made me feel things, I feel like I stumbled across a new dopamine inducing way.

>>18665893
>>18665937
>>18665993
>>18666032
>>18666084
I'll pray for you.

I hate these threads. They’re nothing but misery and depression. Is it just that /lit/ is uniquely depressed or are people just more miserable today? I’ll admit that it’s hard not to be.

>>18666099
this thread is where /lit/ schizos come to be sincere about their pains and struggles after a long day of shitposting and baiting everyone on the board

>>18666099
This thread is an invitation to vent the worst, most insecure, most negative thoughts. It's inevitably going to be a shitshow.

People should really be prompted to consider what they are grateful for, or what they are going to do today (or this week) to improve their situation.

>>18666099
These threads were better when they had anime OP since they filtered the schizophrenics.

>>18666099
Young people in general are always talking about their depression

>>18666084
Giving money to a whore because you think she has genuine feelings towards you is a very slippery slope.

>>18666084
don't do this to yourself anon

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Write What's On Your Mind Anonymous 07/17/21(Sat)17:23:50 No.18665893▶>>18666093
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Anonymous 07/17/21(Sat)17:37:49 No.18665937▶>>18666093
I know I have a voice and real ability but I haven’t written in so long and have let my mind become so soft that I am afraid I won’t be able to get it out.

After years of mental squalor and numbness, the only thing that forces my hand to pen is the relentless fire that burns within me. The faint murmurs of optimism that refuse to be extinguished. I am alive.
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Anonymous 07/17/21(Sat)17:59:38 No.18665993▶>>18666093
i haven’t been hugged in 14 years.
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Anonymous 07/17/21(Sat)18:12:30 No.18666032▶>>18666093
You are God.
Sup, dude?? How ya been?
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Anonymous 07/17/21(Sat)18:30:19 No.18666084▶>>18666093 >>18666174 >>18666177
yesterday on my way back from work I paid a prostitute 20 euros above the average rate and she thanked me with such a genuine smile that it made me feel things, I feel like I stumbled across a new dopamine inducing way.
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Anonymous 07/17/21(Sat)18:32:25 No.18666093▶
>>18665893 (OP)
>>18665937
>>18665993
>>18666032
>>18666084
I'll pray for you.
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Anonymous 07/17/21(Sat)18:34:16 No.18666099▶>>18666108 >>18666116 >>18666166 >>18666170
I hate these threads. They’re nothing but misery and depression. Is it just that /lit/ is uniquely depressed or are people just more miserable today? I’ll admit that it’s hard not to be.
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Anonymous 07/17/21(Sat)18:36:31 No.18666108▶
>>18666099
this thread is where /lit/ schizos come to be sincere about their pains and struggles after a long day of shitposting and baiting everyone on the board
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Anonymous 07/17/21(Sat)18:38:14 No.18666116▶
>>18666099
This thread is an invitation to vent the worst, most insecure, most negative thoughts. It's inevitably going to be a shitshow.

People should really be prompted to consider what they are grateful for, or what they are going to do today (or this week) to improve their situation.
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>>18666099
These threads were better when they had anime OP since they filtered the schizophrenics.
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Anonymous 07/17/21(Sat)18:57:00 No.18666170▶
>>18666099
Young people in general are always talking about their depression
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Anonymous 07/17/21(Sat)18:58:03 No.18666174▶
>>18666084
Giving money to a whore because you think she has genuine feelings towards you is a very slippery slope.
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>>18666084
don't do this to yourself anon

>>18666195
Your mind seems like a confusing place

>Pope Francis cracked down Friday on the spread of the old Latin Mass, reversing one of Pope Benedict XVI’s signature decisions in a major challenge to traditionalist Catholics who immediately decried it as an attack on them and the ancient liturgy.

>Francis reimposed restrictions on celebrating the Latin Mass that Benedict relaxed in 2007, and went further to limit its use. The pontiff said he was taking action because Benedict’s reform had become a source of division in the church and been exploited by Catholics opposed to the Second Vatican Council, the 1960s meetings that modernized the church and its liturgy.

ok i'm done until there's a new pope.

>>18666206
who cares desu, no pope in history ever did anything to help anyone, the position should just be abolished

>>18665937
>After years of mental squalor and numbness, the only thing that forces my hand to pen is the relentless fire that burns within me. The faint murmurs of optimism that refuse to be extinguished. I am alive.
If I read something this artlessly self-indulgent in a novel I would put it down immediately.

>>18666223
>If I read something this artlessly self-indulgent in a novel
Welcome to /wg/ where that type of shit is encourage.

>>18666231
Self-indulgence is fine when artful. What that anon wrote leans really heavily on the tropes of "good writing" instead of just itself being well-written.

It's socially acceptable to make fun of introverted, socially inept, autistic sexless nerds. in a hypersocialized society, they might as well be 21st century niggers.

>>18666260
is it really acceptable though?

>>18666260
Niggers at least did some work

>>18666260
It’s actually a class war, anon

>>18665893
Bread: Eaten
Circus: Enjoyed
Oh yeah, It's normie time.

>>18666099
4chan in general has been like this since the early 2010s when the first generation of its predominantly high school aged population began entering adulthood. This site's culture has been tending toward cynicism ever since. Nothing grows here. These threads mind me a lot of early /r9k/

I've been talking to a girl online. We get along well and can talk refreshingly openly about things. She lives halfway across the world, so it probably won't work out statistically, but I'm willing to put in the effort. She's said she's open to traveling and ultimately relocating, so there's that. It just feels good to be actually talking with someone for the first time in a long time.

>>18666099
three reasons :
1. every board on 4chan is a flavor of /r9k/

2. /lit/ is more-so than others - it is similar to an /r9k/ yet for more artistic, intellectual, introspective types hoping to escape their feelings of ennui

3. these threads have the concentration of these users who are looking to vent

these threads still have nuggets of gold to them, I would not be here otherwise, and I've read some of the best and profound posts on them in my many wasted years on 4channel

>>18666393
>I've read some of the best and profound posts on them in my many wasted years on 4channel
Examples?

>>18666393
>yet for more artistic, intellectual, introspective types hoping to escape their feelings of ennui
Kek, made me laugh, stop being delusional about this place.

>>18666499
He's objectively correct. It's not a compliment, it's an obvious observation.

>>18666582
That anon is just trying to keep all the other crabs in the bucket. His type are pretty common around here. He's basically an establishment goon trying to reinforce the preconditions for his own internal (and false) sense of superiority.

>>18666582
no one is intellectual or artistic or introspective here stupid bitch

who got those digits?
>>18666666

>>18665893
I have to get my licenses renewed. I wish it would keep raining.

Anyone else here who is only able to work with personality changing antidepressants? My genuine unaltered mind set does not allow me to care about work.

>>18666591
This. Same as the people who always reply "no one here reads" to every thread. They're projecting and self-hating

This board is >50% incel posting

>>18666425
Not that anon, but this was posted in one of the prior threads. I found it so well written and poignant that I saved it. There exist anons here who have talent and stories to tell. It's true that you have to look to find posts of high quality. 4chan has some of the most guttural, garbage shitposting on the internet, but interspersed is real quality.

>I fought in Afghanistan. Something similar happened to me. You don't understand what happened at first. If you've never been close to an explosion, it's really hard to imagine how overwhelming an experience it is, even with comparatively small ordinance like a 105mm artillery shell. The sensation of sound and concussion overrides everything about your human experience. In a way, you ARE that explosion for the moments during and immediately preceding. While your brain tries to catch up and make sense of what just happened, everything kind of just melds together into an almost benign blankness. That only lasts for a moment though, because soon your brain starts piecing things together, the smoke clears, the dust settles, and you have to confront what your eyes are telling you. The guy in front of you isn't standing in front of you anymore, and even though all the evidence is there you still have no fucking clue where he is. He was there, you were joking around minutes before, talking about life the previous day, in that serene way with which only men in combat are familiar. Then you start picking up additional details. Blood on a dirt wall, a metallic smell in your nose and mouth, a twisted machine gun laying unattended yards away. An armored vest laying in a ditch.

>Picking up his pieces is difficult, but it's more difficult later when you start to think about the probability, the web of causality and the uncountable twists of fate which led to him being the one who stepped on it rather than you. If he'd maybe stumbled or missed a half step miles before, he could have missed the pressure plate entirety and it could have been you lying dead in that ditch. It is literally fucking maddening. Later, you wonder with a kind of casual callousness which scars you for the rest of your life if it was the blast that killed him, or if he lived long enough to drown legless in the ditch.

>People go through much worse in war than just witnessing a death. A part of you realizes this, of course, and you start attacking and invalidating your own suffering. You're still alive, after all, and he is dead. What do you have to complain about? This creates a deep sense of shame and inadequacy in that something so comparatively small affected you so deeply, which prevents you, sometimes for decades, from seeking help. You might spend the rest of your life picking up the pieces from just the one death. And this is to say nothing about the remainder of your combat experiences.

>War is suffering. The human mind isn't strong enough to withstand it and come out unchanged.

>>18666689
don't be so hard on yourself anon. you can make it

Does the weather ever effect your mood /lit/? I noticed I am feeling frustrated, dull and more irritable than yesterday. Feeling like I'm stuck in a bind. Not knowing where to go. I look out and go for a walk to find that it's been a really gloomy day. Dark grey clouds looming over head dimming the sun's light. And yet, it doesn't rain.

I just want to talk to people
but my autism prevents me from doing so
anyway, this post might seem like an invitation for a conversation, because it is, but I'll chicken out and ignore anyone trying to reach out to me because of my malfunction

>>18666099
I like them. They showcase raw human emotion, which is hard to experience nowadays.

>>18665893
I hate how expensive cars are right now. Even used ones are outrageously overpriced. I just want to get a decently priced sedan so I can finally move out of my parents house, why does the (((automobile))) industry gotta keep me down?

>>18667338
Not saying like I'm any different but a lot of people are like this nowadays. Holding a conversation is harder than holding a burning matchstick

What's the point of this fag's shitty debates with random SJWs? Neither side is saying anything profound or interesting. Neither side is interested in truth at all.
One person says "You're a big meanie if you don't use tranny pronouns" and then Jordan Peterson says "B-b-but it is my right as an individual to not use your pronouns if I don't want to. Personally I will use your pronouns because I am not a hateful Nazi bigot, but you can't force someone to use your pronouns if they don't want to."
Wow amazing. What an insightful debate. Neither of them are actually making real, solid claims about anything true, they're are just bickering about some gay pronouns.
Who the fuck thinks this is high-brow, intelligent discussion
Why does anyone think he is a great intellectual

>>18667358
why would you need a car to move out

>>18667383
I use my dad's car to commute to work and back currently. I need my own vehicle if I'm living on my own.

My mom is annoying desu

>>18667133
Very good post, but the ending is bad. Some people enjoy war and kill with no remorse. He should stick to describing his own personal experience, not generalise to everyone. It takes away from the story.

>>18667421
how old are you?

>>18667438
29

>>18667444
I don't believe you

>>18666307
>>18666099
>These threads mind me a lot of early /r9k/
/r9k/ went through a few stages. There was the original board when the robot was first implemented and it was a free for all. That was fantastic, because everyone was having fun and trying it out. Then after a bit they removed the robot and it became the defacto incel board. This period was pretty good. It was probably some of the most visceral and real human experience ever on the internet. 1000s of young men lashing out at society and truly speaking their minds to the void in an attempt to cope with their dismay. Then after awhile it became to inbred and just turned into women hating and it was boring. Then they reintroduced the robot and the board got taken over by cuck spammers and faggots at which point I left.

For a brief moment in time /r9k/ was a collective grief pit unlike anything I have ever seen. Truly remarkable. Now all the people that made it special have either moved on to other boards or just moved on with their lives.

the first month after the breakup didn't feel too bad but now I'm starting to get really sad. some kind of delayed reaction.

Thinking about marrying the next girl I like. Good or bad idea?

>>18667567
sure, love is a progress, as long as you're both willing to work on problems that arise in your relationship I don't see why you couldn't marry anyone.

>>18666499
with people like you here it never will be

>>18667567
both good and bad. good because of the good parts and bad because of the bad parts

>>18667543
Welcome to post break up. If you look at your ex's social media be prepared to feel miserable.

>>18667306
i hate it when it rains. all my bad memories are covered in rain

>>18667599
that's unfortunate, I like it when it rains, the pitter patter of raindrops on my window just calms me down and make me settle into this complete calmness.

>>18667593
it's new for me because my last and first breakup was consistently horrible from the very start. this is now just as bad. and I didn't even intend to look at her social media, I opened Venmo to pay someone and saw her picture in my feed. fuck Venmo man.

>>18667618
you should talk to her : )

>>18667578
thanks chief. 100% gonna do it now.

>>18667620
you're insane

>>18667642
you're dangling on a cliff right now
you have two choices, recognize how futile your emotions are and snap out of it, or jump down into the abyss, hit rock bottom and climb up since there's nothing else you can do after that

the circle of friends i was in stopped hanging out with me. a new guy came in and i hated him from day one yet everyone liked him, so i didnt want to go out when he was invited. they stopped inviting so i thought whatever but... why are they still inviting him but not me? do they prefer him over me? i dont think i insulted them i just dont like the new dude. its depressing, seeing your friends not considering you the same. its been two years and just now i stopped to consider whats going on. i hate this, i made own self depressed about it. i dont even have the willpower to say "ha! good riddance" and shrug it off. i hate the rain

I identify as European American

>>18667712
so you're a brit bong

>>18667618
you better take the hit and delete her from your sight. otherwise you will be tempted just to "have a look". im talking from experience

>>18667618
You should definitely talk to her
if you have feelings of regret about your breakup definitely clear them up now.

The knife did it again. Slice the same spot a few more times just to make sure. "A-ah..." she writhed slightly. She could also felt it. A concoction of imaginative lust filled the damp room with fragrant pheromones of stillness.
At last, liquid ruby seeped through the thin slit like children peeking out the window at a winter morning. Still gazing at the result, I tried to reach for her arm. She immediately jumped back. "W-wait, give me a minute..." The humming fan broke my trance. Is she crying?

>>18666099
These threads serve a useful function as containment threads for personal blog posts. Without them, you'd see a million threads with each irrelevant post here as the OP drowning out the board.

the internet is so weird lol. you can just talk to anyone anonymously. there are so many remnants of normal interactions that it makes online interaction irrational

>>18667717
I either don't have the social media or have already removed her, it's just random shit like that that I hadn't thought of.
>>18667726
that's the thing, I don't really. she was awful for me and breaking up was the right decision.

who do i even talk to if my own parents and siblings wont listen to me. i try asking my parents for advice but they always stop me mid-sentence to give their own solution. ive noticed this in group conversations as well. im always stopped or plainly ignored for someone else beginning to talk, i hate it. is that normal or is the problem in me? am i not radiating enough energy of someone worth listening to?

>>18667752
It's natural for us to demonize our exes
if you're missing your time with her, then maybe she isn't as bad as you think she was, or maybe she's horrible, I don't know
takeaway here is to get your emotions in check, do some meditation or something and go to the root of your sadness, do you miss her, or do you just miss the intimacy of interactions with her

>>18667768
dumbass, everyone gets depressed after a breakup, stop trying to hook him back up. she clearly didnt treat him right but he misses the companionship.
>>18667752
i say you take a month or more to heal up. these type of things happen and you must accept it and occupy your mind. thats why you started feeling for her again too because you stopped and thinked.

>>18667752
get some new pussy. it's the best cure.

what exactly did the Greeks mean by logos? i've read about it a million times and I still don't really understand

>>18667804
Isn't it mostly a Christianity thing? Aristotle used logos to refer to a mode of rhetoric, but Christians and later philosohpers made it more metaphysical

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos

It usually means a bunch of different things, anon. As in, it depends on where it is written. The Greeks used it with different meanings. Get a commentary or something in whatever you are reading
.

Tfw over two years into trying to learn Japanese and it's hopeless but i'm too deep to stop now.

>>18667837
check out /int/'s daily japanese thread. might help you out.

>>18667837
just get a teacher, anon
what most people lack is discipline, going to a class helps with that since they have curriculums and tests to help drill these things into you

>>18667133
Fascinating text. It reminds me of something very evil for some reason I don't know, but I'm going to post it either way.
It is the description William Bonin gave of the Vietnam war.

"You could see them all below, scurrying around like ants. Sometimes it would seem like there was hundreds all running about getting themselves killed. No real goal or ultimate purpose. Vietnam was an important time in my life. It was there I figured out perhaps my most important lesson. human life is overrated."

>>18667920
The other anon's writing is much better than this literal who's

Family is a fucking nightmare desu. They can’t just leave me the fuck alone. They constantly have to critique everything I do and coerce me into doing things that they want me to do, but not that I want to do. The primary affliction of my family, from grandparents to grandchildren and siblings is project your own desires and insecurities onto each other and be fucking relentless about it.

>>18668390
lol grow up

>>18668390
they spent 18 years (and probably more) investing in you. You are a culmination of all their time and input, its not unrealistic for them to have expectations in return.

>>18667706
>anon drops his friends
>Why don't they liiiiiikee meeeeeee?
Dude you stopped hanging out with them and they took the hint

>>18668422
What a ridiculous way to view family, especially siblings. If that’s what family is, I’m not interested.

>>18668437
then fuck off and stop leaching on them.

>>18667865
>>18667874
I don't lack for resources or discipline, more that i've realised the time investment hasn't been and will never be worth it but sunk cost dictates I keep going.
Ffs I should've learned something useful like Spanish or German.

>cat brings in a mouse yesterday
>plays with it a bit
>he loses the mouse because he's an ADHD zoomer cat
>gives up and goes away
>Today i saw the mouse climbing in my curtains
>he's holed up behind my bookshelf (i cant get there)
what should i do? I dont wanna kill him

>>18668469
when I had a teacher, and this is single one hour class a week by the way, it took me a year to learn hiragana and katakana, year two was just kanji and grammar stuff
but highschool ended and I didn't bother learning anymore after that, so basically my jap is stuck at N5-N4 level

>>18668447
Who said I’m leaching off them you stupid fuck?

>>18668447
>leaching
>leaching
leeching

>>18668447
By the sounds of it, they're leaching on him. His family could be fucked up; it happens. My parents were very insistent I'm sensitive, dependent, helpless.
I'm the one who showed up to their other kids' parent teacher meetings, i'm the one who made meals, did laundry, cleaned the house, basically all the adult shit.
My other siblings do nothing for them, and are probably genuine sociopaths. My siblings got bought clothes, books, extracurriculars, everything. Or I bought them for them.
My parents absolutely freaked out when it became clear I'd leave and never look back, and now their only claim to my being "dependent" is they are paying me money to stay in contact with them so I have power of attorney and my siblings don't.
Oh and apparently the reason I'm sensitive is because they had no problem being parents but I was freaking out over shit like "the school is now suing us for damages because one of the kids who you've been neglecting has destroyed thousands worth of property" at fourteen. Most of the things they thought I was sensitive over was because nobody would expect an eight year old to source their own accommodation and food for two other siblings because my parents "needed a break".

>>18668490
Hiragana/Katakana was easy days for me but i'm stuck at like 500 or so Kanji, they just get so undistinctive after a while and it's hard to cram more in there.
Not sure what JLPT level i'm on, I can read stuff like the material at https://tadoku.org/japanese/en/free-books-en/ simple children's books like 手袋を買いに and slowly struggle through older children's books like 魔女の宅急便 which is where my wall seems to be so I guess I need to read more of them and drill Kanji.
Good luck if you decide to pick it back up, i've thought about dropping it and trying an easier and applicable irl language since i'm not so much of a weeb anymore, but then I probably wouldn't be as motivated.

>>18668528
ah.. yeah, I kind of bypassed that wall by having chinese being my native tongue
guess in a way I'm kind of cheating.

>>18668532
Oh damn, you were born on nightmare mode language-wise so everything else must seem easier no?
I simply can't distinguish the sounds in Chinese which is why I never bothered to try it.

>>18668550
Mandarin is actually very easy to speak, there's like only 400 something possible syllables, everything else is context

>>18668518
My family was fucked up at one point. My parents are divorced and we lived in poverty once. Nobody had any contact with my father for almost a decade. I worked really hard, or at least I feel like worked really hard, to help get us all back together and united and whatnot and people get along well enough. Only now I feel like I’m the odd man out. I feel like I’ve always done a lot for everyone and nobody actually gives a shit about me. I’ve never not been there for someone when they needed it. The handful of times I need someone around, everyone disappeared. Now, I’m at a point in my life where I’ve shifted my perspective on who I am, what I want, how I do things and I’m not annoying about it. I just do my own thing, leave people alone but they’re constantly critiquing me. Literally, they critique everything from my hobbies to the food I eat. They just constantly push up against me and insist I do and be as they want me to do and be and meanwhile, nobody actually gives a fuck about what I need and want. I’m an adult even. I don’t need to be coached on daily life by my siblings of all people.

Recently I've tried to change my external personality. I have a slight smile all the time, I try to wave at people, and I offer bottles of water to people who look like they've been standing in the sun for a while. I've also stopped baiting and participating in depressing threads and discussions and I've cleansed my computer of negative images and things. Something about it feels cringe and kind of "gross", I can't put my finger on it. I just want to be a pleasant but inconspicuous person. Maybe it's the deep cynical part of me trying to find an excuse to rouse my self-consciousness. I think it's a good way to act as a baseline, but I'm not sure if I'm just acting like I'm nice or not. It can't do any harm I suppose. It almost feels like another personality somehow.

>>18668563
No tonal language is easy to speak unless you learned it when you were a child

A thread about the future longevity of the term "Incel" was deleted before I could post my reply so I will make it here and you can give me your critique.

Incel is a specific instantiation of the broader emergence of the 'lumpenmale' as a afterbirth of modernity.
I can see Incel giving way to some other term as the lumpenmale phenomenon morphs in time.
In popular understanding 'Incel' is welded to adjacent phenomenon like gun violence and domestic terrorism and is one spectre among many in the rogue's gallery of Liberal bogeymen.
From the technocratic overseer's POV the existence of the Incel, and maladjusted alienated men in general, is a failure to indoctrinate and entertain, with entertainment being understood to posses a pacifying quality when employed as a surrogate for some real life experience as well as mere distraction.

At this moment in time the ratio of disenfranchisement to compensatory virtual experience is close, hence the social friction. The Metagame is to keep people clapping all while impoverishing them.
However, it is getting to the point where soon, for society to remain on its current trajectory, rather than offering discreet virtual experiences virtual lives, near total immersion in fantasy, will be the necessary for placation. This is obviously already embryonic today, but clearly unsatisfactory for many. Or alternatively, brute wireheading (with a monthly subscription fee) as this may be simpler.

If this is managed I can see Incel concept leaving public consciousness for something more like a shadow of those no longer present. A people notable entirely for their absence if considered at all. And at this point Incel may be rendered redundant as male alienation would likely be completely subsumed in to a much grander total social heat death.

Otherwise I can see the term, or something like it, sticking around.

>>18668563
They're not sounds that you'd get in English like pretty much all the Japanese sounds are, plus there's that tone stuff.
If you guys do end up progressing past America I guess i'll have to learn it anyway.

>>18668603
Yeah I have boundaries as an adult, so if they told adult me instead of tweenage me that they had left the country and expected me to deal with their kids, I'd call social services on them for neglect. I don't speak to my siblings and I only speak to my parents under certain circumstances. For a few years after I left the "you're shit and a burden" idea stuck with me so I'd still do stuff to placate them, but now I'm done with that shit. I view it as a paid caring job, and if they want me to do something that would be beyond professional boundaries for a care worker, they're shit out of luck.

Leeching

>>18668642
It's not that deep, unsuccessful males have always been and will always be acceptable punching bags for everyone including each other.

>>18668603
poor people are incredibly self-centered. i work with the less fortunate and the absolute gall of some of these people never ceases to amaze. thank god anti-social people like that rarely prosper. anyone who works with the poor and continues to be a leftist has to live in a fantasy cope world to believe the reason these people are poor and dysfunctional is because elon musk made an electric car or whatever. open your eyes man.

do you guys have any /lit/ friends? if yes, how did you find them? if no, how do you deal with it? i find that most of my friends are just interested in pedestrian things such as football or video games. at best they read some manga or genfic shit such as liu cixin. unable to meet anyone at uni due to distance learning. been isolating myself a fair bit due to feeling very unsatisfied with the quality of socializing, but its beginning to take a toll and i realize that social interaction still is important. also doesn't help that most of my friends work, those few that go to uni study stem. what do?

>>18668665
None of us are poor anymore. Both parents are comfortably upper middle class, the kids have degrees or are students and are comfortably middle class, and we come from upper or upper middle class backgrounds for generations. It was just a temporary poverty sort of thing due to a single parent, poor decision, and unfortunate events. I can’t blame any sort of type associated with poverty.

>>18668669
I don't have friends
this is my social outlet
the last time I had a real conversation about anything with another human being face to face was maybe 3 years ago

>>18668652
Well I’m stuck in a rock and a hard place now I guess. I’m in between living situations and will probably soon be in between jobs. Actually, I don’t want to work anymore but I do for the time being. Basically, I’m living with a parent for at least a short while in their big home and with me here are all the siblings, who I suppose decided to do the same since they work remotely or something now. I have no friends so I have no one else to rely on while I sort out what I’m doing with my life.

>>18668665
I'm this anon>>18668652 >>18668518 and my parents were only ever poor when it came to me. Five thousand a year schools for my siblings, clothes, books, everything paid for when it came to them. I need twelve bucks for a mandatory field trip? We're broke. My siblings didn't turn out better for getting everything paid for. I'd never do any of the criminal damage they have done because I would have to pay for it.

>>18668681
How come? Do you just not want/need any?

>>18668716
uber neet with avoidant personality

MOU ICHI DO
MOU NI DO TO

>>18668669
No, but I don’t have any non-/lit/ friends either.

>>18668700
Idk anon you have to make up your own mind on this. I would not move back into my parents house or ever depend on them for income. I was already doing pretty much everything you need to do to be an adult (working two jobs, keeping house, paying my own way) by sixteen so when I moved out at seventeen I was relieved. Turns out I'm a reasonable adult and my parents are permanent children who needed to hire help to replace me.

>>18668720
Fairs. Good luck on making some if you want!
>>18668724
Best Monogatari opening.

You can buy it, but it won't be real.
You can hide it, but your eyes reveal.
You hate it, but it's always there.
You want it selfishly and never share.
You mean it, when you stop and stare.
You cant help it, for it makes you care.
And oft it is all but fair.

>>18668736
I don’t really have a choice. At the risk of divulging too much information and being that guy in these threads, I’m really unhappy, pretty close to suicidal in the sense that I think about the actual act of my suicide a lot I guess. I tell you this to highlight that I’m very unhappy with myself and my life and basically, I don’t really want to continue onward with it as it is right now. The trouble with that is, I’m not really ready to kill myself and there isn’t another alternative. So I’ve let go of my living arrangements even though like you, I’ve been living on my own since 18 (I’m 27 now). I still have a job but I’m more or less detached entirely and it’s not like there’s anything else in particular that I want to do. So I’m just kind of drifting, with nowhere to go, nothing to do really. I don’t have that much in savings and I don’t have close friends anymore so family is all I’ve got to fall back in right now. They offered to let me stay and I figured it’s a big house and it would just be me, but no. The failure to launch sibling is still here, and for some reason the others all decided to be here too. It’s an ideal situation but I have nowhere else but homelessness to go to.

>>18666099
attention whoring the board

>>18666393
is that why i talk to so many mass shooters?

>>18668790
that's just americans being americans

>>18668681
Go see a doctor

>>18668793
I talked to the massage parlor dude, the 2 bangladeshi brothers from Allen Texas, the Halle shooter and Beebo.
Probably more but i only started noticing with Beebo cause he doesnt know what a loop-de-loop or Corkscrew was so he said
>backflip thingy
and he said that to the flight control guy

>>18668813
>>18668793
Or maybe im a schizo and imagine things, cause i cant prove any of it

>>18668800
I know I should

>>18668772
My family tried to make me dependent when I moved out. They always destroyed my friendships, but they got really loose with their wallets all of a sudden when I left. I have a double insulated firewall between them a)meeting or knowing the name of anyone I know; b)ever being my sole/main source of income or any other need.
My parents were suddenly so willing to give me money because they operate on the same skeevy level that porn and criminal enterprises work on: they're trying to make me rely on their money so that they can pull the rug from under me. I put all the money they pay me into a separate pot so it's always fuck you money and never I need this to live money. They get really excited when they think I might be financially struggling or have problems with my income. They act surprised I wouldn't want to move home when the most suicidal I have ever been is when I lived with them, and they act like there's zero reasons why I might not want to depend on them. I know they're like sharks scenting blood when I mention anything that might be a difficulty for me, and the last thing I would do is ask the sharks for help.
I can't tell you what to do in your situation, but I'd be a crazy homeless person before I'd go back to being the crazy person I was living with them.

>>18668827
he has to talk to you lol you pay him
Doctors are like hookers but better cause you can just lie and get a finger up your butt and sometimes they give you drugs to take home
like bro go see Dr.Hooker and just say you think you uave hemorrhoids or that your dick itches

I've realized that I'm ugly, recently from some good photos of my face and profile as well as mirrors in general and the way people seem to initially react to me. I find it kind of hard to stop thinking about. I don't really want to do anything drastic like surgery though, but along with the other problems in my life it kind of feels like there is a void inside of me now. I want people to like me and to enjoy my presence but that's difficult with ugly people, especially with how the modern world is. This feels terrible, like a disease I can do nothing about to excise. How do I accept this?

>>18668781
How is it attention whoring if it is anonymous?

>>18668904
(You) (You) (You)

>>18668911
By that definition just making a post is attention whoring.

>18668915
id give you a (you) but bitch better have my money

kpop is one of the last bastions of romanticism. parasocial nirvana. to obsess over a kpop idol is modern worship of the divine feminine. contemporary culture is disillusioned with the concept of 'perfection'-- but these girls still try. this is what degas saw in ballerinas; what dante saw in beatrice. a new, digital outlet for an eternal spiritual hunger.

unless you're just horny for them. then you'll never get it

>>18668837
Lately, I’ve been thinking that I should just live out of my car. It’s on its last legs and won’t last me very long and summer and winter will be rough but at least I could be independent. I suppose what’s stopping me from that, homeless, and suicide is certain like literary ambitions. I feel like those are hopeless but I still have them so I desperately cling to a semblance of stable life. Maybe I should leave the country, take any job I can get. Honestly, I feel like I’m just going to end up milking myself in the next few years. I’m kind of afraid of that if I’m being honest.

>>18668931
>this is what degas saw in ballerinas; what dante saw in beatrice.
What Lou Pearlman saw in Backstreet Boys
>you're just horny for them
That too.

>>18668939
*Killing, not milking lol

I don't know if i should try to get her back, she ended it due to circumstances and said she was open to trying again when things were more in our favor. I still want to be with her but don't want to go through the pain of her possibly saying no.

>>18668923

>>18668681
>the last time I had a real conversation about anything with another human being face to face was maybe 3 years ago
how does that even work lol
do you not have a job? does your mom leave you meals at the doors, knock, and then walk away?

People constantly laugh with me, or at what I say/do, but I feel like I'm not that funny. As in, I'm funny around other people and playing off those situations but I can't actually come up with anything funny by myself. It's a problem because I'm writing something with the intent to be funny.

>>18668964
Buh-gok this ya fowl creature!

>>18668886
are you a woman?

>>18668939
Idk anon, I'm in a different position because, like I said, I was basically a fully formed adult before I left. I still had hang ups about failing them or being a bad kid for a few years, but my whole life was based around I am never going back. I took all kinds of shit jobs and tight budgets to not go back. My standard of living is much higher than it was when I lived with them, and since they only started to pay anything towards me when I left, I don't have many memories of them actually taking care of me to convince me it would work. Like I got hospitalized once when I was fourteen and I was confused why my parents showed up to the hospital. For me the options look more like
>Live a nice life with fresh food and clean clothes which are new and buy any book I want and live in a clean house with no yelling
or
>Live a terrible life with no food, no clothes, no books, and get yelled at for touching anything when I'm not cleaning it
So it's pretty simple for me. I'd make a plan if I were you, save enough to get out, and gtfo

>>18668987
No, but that was a big melodramatic paragraph, I realize. I just wanted to know if anyone knows how to accept immutable things about themselves like how their facial structure looks. That's all.

My interest in Japan and Japanese stuff is steadily declining, I haven't purposefully practiced Japanese in weeks. Not because I've realized it's all overhyped or whatever, but more like the sense that caring about it won't make me any happier and just lead me deeper into escapism.

>>18668993
Why do you think I wasn’t a fully formed adult before I left? I didn’t say that.

>>18669021
I don't consider people who live at home to be fully formed adults. It's a prejudice, but unless you're paying your own way, you're a dependent.

>>18669027
So how could you have been a fully formed adult before you left home?

>>18669032
I paid bills and rent. Paid for that hospital stay too.

>>18669027
Jesus. Burgers are a cancer.

>>18669043
Not a burger. And most non burger places don't consider you an adult until you're married and moved out.

>>18669038
So did I. I’m not understanding…

>>18668669
i have a /lit/ friend but hes a communist so i cant discuss anything unless he will get insulted

>>18668658
You don't think that various societal conditions might be contributory factors that potentially increase or decrease the number of these unsuccessful males? Is there a fixed rate?

>>18669087
>did
Do you mean you're not paying them now?

>>18669094
No, I’m not. I paid bills before I was an adult because we had a period of living in poverty, which is not the case now.

I don't even know if this is a feel at all but everyone around me seems to be so stressed with piles of issues. Thinking about it I couldn't even name one thing stressing me out right now.
>Good job
>Lots of friends
>Own home
>Pursuing interests
>Decent social life
>Everyone complains about my boss being a cunt but I think he's a pretty good guy if you just do your job
Maybe I've already been through the bad part of life? Nothing I come across really stresses me like how I used to be. So maybe it does get better anons.
Or maybe I'm just to dumb to see the issues

>>18669125
Anon, that's not adulthood. You can't rely on "but I paid when I was a teenager" to cover your electricity bill now. Well, you can, but I'd consider you a dependent, and the taxman probably would too.

>>18669125
Wait, actually are you getting a full free ride? Like free room, board and bills? If so how the fuck are you broke if you have a job? That's like the majority of expenses anyone has.

>>18669000
what you need to get through your thick fucking skull is that if you're a man, it doesn't matter if you're not that good looking, despite what incels will tell you. it's just a massive cope. it is unironically all about your character and attitude. which isn't an easy truth to accept, because it means that you can in fact change things, it's just extremely difficult to do so. you are the hand of the sculptor and you are also the marble. that is all

>>18669152
What are you even talking about? I explained my situation in full in a previous reply.

>>18669166
Because like I said, I’ve been living on my own this entire time. I moved in here like a week ago.

>>18669127
do you have a gf

>>18669316
I'm not seeing how an adult thinks paying bills a decade ago in anyway would cover their bills now. That's some magical thinking.

>>18669338
I paid bills for the apartment I just moved out 2 weeks ago yesterday. How are you not following along with what’s happening here? Is English not your first language?

>>18669352
Anon, are you going to pay bills and expenses for your current accomodation or is someone else going to pay them for you? I assumed you understood when I asked about your bill set up now you are living with your family that you understood that I meant the bills from now you are living with your family, and not bills you paid ten years ago.

>>18669386
>Anon, are you going to pay bills and expenses for your current accomodation or is someone else going to pay them for you?
Not if I don’t have to and I hardly see how it’s relevant anyway.

Anyway, this has been very unhelpful so let’s not continue.

>>18669397
>Not if I don’t have to and I hardly see how it’s relevant anyway
Yeah the guys who never paid any bills and still live at home with no expenses also don't see why people consider them dependents.

>>18669404
Nobody knows what you’re talking about dude.

>>18669432
>in an age marked by increasing manchildren and adult dependents, nobody knows what that's about
Sure thing

>>18669439
He probably means it's wall to wall NEETs living in their parents' basements on 4chins so we shouldn't bully him for turning into a stereotype.

>>18669459
I was going to defend him as having a job, but then I remembered he said he was thinking about giving up work.

I've been a dog person my entire life but I've never wanted my own because I can't tolerate seeing them wither away and eventually die. My mom really wants to get one but I don't have it in my heart to shoot her down. Seeing my uncle's dog suffer was fucking unbearable and I couldn't experience the same thing with my own.

>>18669386
Arbitrary horse shid
in my country the government pays for your accomodation and food so really whether you live with mommy and daddy or with gobmentie its no different.
i lived on my own and did a lot of shit most of you pussy will never do and living with mommy and daddy really doesnt mean anything.
sure it sucks and is embarrassing in the sense that you are down and fugged but hey what sense is there in beating yourself up over some shid some fag on 4chan thinks?
stop being a normie, you arent cool.

also Theremin: https://youtu.be/PjnaciNT-wQ

>>18669562
>My mom really wants to get one but I don't have it in my heart to shoot her down.
Just get your mom a dog anon, you only have one life.

>>18669439
No, you said “guys who never paid any bills” and I’m not a guy who never paid any bills.

This is just plainly not helpful. Most of your replies were monologues about your own life, only to suggest that it’s not applicable. You just wanted to talk about yourself I think. Why am I even still responding to you?

>>18669580
No, you opted out of adult responsibility, and have no plan. This thread is not your blog where the whole thing is only about you. I did point out our situations are different, and one of the main reasons it's different is I would never become a dependent of my parents again. I said that choice was yours to make and weigh up your options, and why I wouldn't do what you're doing. You're responding to me because you think that you're going to stop being a legally deductable dependent through winning a 4chan argument, when the way to do it is to pay your own way.
>>18669571
If this is also you, you're not helping the basement dwelling manchild meme die.

I either seem to overanalyse things to the point of paralysis or rushing headfirst with unjustified confidence. How does one get to the happy medium?

>>18669981
living by a code helps a lot. make some rules for yourself and stick to them.

>>18665893
You sense something is fundamentally sick with the world but soon start doubting this view. The feeling carries over. You begin misplacing, projecting, your feelings about the world on the mirror of self perception. I am the sick one, you think. The world needs to change me. Projection? Cognitive dissonance? The world really is sick, but you aren't the one to fix it. Time flies yet things stay locked in place. Confusion? How is it that you still feel hopeful? It isn't a delusion because the future hasn't happened. One day it might turn out to be. Self-fulfilling prophecy? You're a prophet? What do you call the difference between what you could be and what you are? If that's potential, does it grow or shrink with each static passing day? Why is it you are so hopeful? You can't feed a family on dreams. Where is this self deception hiding?

dats how i feel right now thanks for asking

>>18669759
What the fuck are you talking about dude? I let my lease expire is all. You are such a dramatic fag. Why did you even respond to me? Just go on your monologue about yourself if that’s what you want. You don’t have to pretend like it’s sympathetic advice or something.

>>18670075
Anon, it's not a sympathetic advice thread. You're the one who wants to leave the conversation, and keep saying it and not doing it. I think if you want to look over our conversation, you're the one with dramatic emotions. I don't know why you think you're going to convince me you relying on your parents paying for your accomodation and bills is not becoming a dependent, or why you think that's a dramatic statement. It's the definition of dependent. I also don't know why you keep lying about wanting to leave the conversation either, but it's not like I can come to your parents' house and take your keyboard away. That is some shit you will have to handle by yourself.

>>18670107
Okay. Thanks for the advice.

>>18670130
>advice
Are you going to take anon's keyboard away?

im a schizo and its really hard to tell if my life problems are from the mental illness or consequences of my bad choices

>>18670158
What?

>>18670162
why not both?

>>18670046
I don't write a lot... so could someone critique it honestly and tell me why I am retarded? I recognize it's nothing special but really make me feel bad if you can

>>18670162
dare I say based? it's probably a little of both tbqh. I felt a little like you do at one time but the past is mattering less and less to me now. I'm sure as time passes it will for you as well

so i decided to go for a walk the other day and it was nice at the start. i went down some city trails, and ended up at this big park with a pond and a bunch of baseball fields. there were tons of people there and i was just walking around, and i went up to the concession stand and bought a water. everyone was staring at me and i wasn't sure why. then this group of people walked up to me and asked me what my fucking problem was. i was so confused and said "what"? then they all looked at each other and said "just get the fuck out of here man". i was like okay? and i started walking away, but they didnt leave me alone. in fact more and more people started following me, and throwing their bottles and half eaten hotdogs at me while shouting things like "yeah motherfucker keep walking!". an old man hit me with his cane. has this ever happened to anyone else?

>>18670172
it's a joke about an anon taking away anon's keyboard, because another anon said he wouldn't go to anon's house to do it

Any LN readers that can recommend LNs which are well written and not from Nisio Isin?

I had a friend in high school. I cannot remember a single conversation I had with her as she was not all that interesting as a person. What did catch my interest, and everyone else's, was her body. Large breasts and shapely bottoms are common enough to be unremarkable, and, like a melody, need support to create something wonderful. The rhythm section of her body was composed of outlandish curves. Her belly, her shoulders, her hips, by god her hips!

Some months ago I found out she sells lewd photos of herself. I was disappointed that she would debase herself so easily, but I will admit I was intrigued. She tries to keep it a secret, so no one knew where to find them. Today I found the source. Disgust and dismay. Not only does this let down sell her lewd photos, she sells her panties worn and crusted at your request. I don't need to imagine the smell, they smell like shit. To top it all off this cow went and gained fifty pounds, completely destroying the song that I once enjoyed. I did not buy any pictures.

>>18670405
tell her to get on all fours and put an apple in her mouth. if she does videos make her oink for you as well.

After several years of searching for her all over social media he finally found her. All he wanted to do was check on her, to see if she is still alive. And so he did. And scrolling through her posts, he felt disgusted

by her
by his past self, the one who believed in her
but most importantly, by the time he had wasted on her so many years ago

My Elementary school friend who is now a meth head is, thankfully, getting institutionalized. He tried to break into his middle school girlfriend's house.
Sad to see him this way but getting locked up somewhere away from the drugs is absolutely the best thing for him. He's been messaging random people all over town things that are often gibberish and/or sexually explicit including trying to proposition my married, heterosexual friend for sex by saying he has a fatter ass than his wife
I doubt he'll ever be mentally capable again honestly. He's apparently been taking extreme quantities of meth lately.

Ideas for stories :

1.) A world where gang stalking is real. A young woman has feelings for someone she is gang stalking but is worried to reveal the conspiracy to the world.
2.) A story of a man being rejected by 12 separate women. He ends up alone at age 35.
3.) A story of a barbaric society which enforces slavery of foreigners. They do not mate with the slaves but instead praise power above and superiority to them. (Power versus Love)
4.) A man plays a mind-game with a woman and acts if she is not attractive even though she is.
5.) An authoritarian government outlaws love, making it exclusive to the elite and wealthy.
6.) A love tale between two bigots'(a nazi and white supremacist) who are enamored with their similarities.

>>18670661
>including trying to proposition my married, heterosexual friend for sex by saying he has a fatter ass than his wife
based

Why are leftists and non-whites even coming on 4chan? Do they enjoy the regular abuse?

sure feels like summer today

>>18670959
Most threads aren't related to race so it has never been a big deal for me.

>>18670823
1. Gang stalking is real in real life already.
2. This book exists its called my diary desu
3. Thats most of human history
4. Based
5. The Jewnited States of Weimerica has already outlawed love by turning every young girl into an onlyfans porn star and every young boy into a porn addict.
6. Based

>>18670959
This is not your safe space. Fuck you.

>>18670242
this does not happen

>>18670661
i dont blame him ur hetero friend's got Junk in the trunk

>>18670959
its better than going outside i reckon
imagine being a troon or black in a white supremacist institutionalized society that wants to mass genocide you with weapons of mass murdering assault?

Gustav Holst's Japanese Suite is a masterful work. Makes me wish I have a bassoon.

>>18671397
>the 30 year old bassooner

i'm always tired this summer. like i have maybe an hour or two of energy a day. granted my street is noisy and i don't sleep well, but dude, i always want to take a nap.

>>18671905
maybe go to the doctor and ask if something is wrong with you.

>>18671905
sleep apnea
or depression

>>18665937
Pretentious
Ngmi

I hate being material release me from flesh release me from flesh release me from flesh release me from flesh

>>18671905
Same here and I’m pretty sure it’s both
>>18671920
I also got really fat under lockdowns.

>>18665893
i want to fuck and be with girl but i dont think girl wanna fuck and be with me :-(

i am in love with a guy who i assume hates me, or he would hate me if he had any self respect. he probably feels compassion for me which speaks to his virtue as a beautiful person worthy of love, and I am but a worm.
I attempted suicided but made the mistake of buying a helium tank with admixture of oxygen. perhaps i was not actually suicidal if I did not seek out a tank with 100% helium, knowing subconciously it would not kill me.
my mother brings me meals now and I live in an apartment paid for by my parents. I am a pathetic creature but at least i have food and shelter and videogames.
i am damned aren't i

Is it ok to ask for a recommendation in this thread? I'm interested in getting a collection of Japanese short stories in English. I'm looking at The Penguin Book of Japanese Short Stories and just wondering if anyone has any thoughts. I think pic related is the complete list of stories.

constantly shocked how little introspection the average person does
it makes me feel like I'm in a dream when somebody reveals their lack of self-awareness or consciousness

I'm sure most people here have gone through and continue to go through periods where all they do is internal analysis, analysis of people, behavior, social relationships and functions, and the nature of being in general

>>18672175
are you a girl

>>18670988
Fuck you nigger lover.

>>18670959
I've been here since '08. I used to browse this place for fun, but now it's more of a study.

The dichotomy of mind and body is a take home an egg test for the soul

I’m now of the opinion that manga is superior to literature.

>>18672264
Cry, this isn't fucking safe space for nobody. If you think otherwise you don't belong here. Get to your room and wash your penis.

>>18672264
Or be a fucking retard and quit crying over it.

>>18672296
>>18672303
Seething little bitch angry he got called out. Truly the most fragile of leftists.

>>18672175
>I am but a worm
>quoting a prophecy of Jesus Christ from Psalm 22:6
Give glory to God
"I am a worm and no man, a despised man and reproached by the people"

have you ever been passionate about or enthralled by something?

>>18672376
Yes. Whenever I write or see her. But I wouldn't call it passion. It feels like a fresh breath of air and I have the energy to push forward.

I un-scrombled my brain somehow at work and got all the bits and pieces in working order and now I'm on page 113. It's good to have things back on track.

>>18672416
>and now I'm on page 113
of what?

>>18672318
I don't care, anon. This is not your safe space. If you want that shit, just get to reddit or some other shit with moderation.

>Muh lefttist
>Muh nigger lover
>Muh bitch
>Muh fragile

It is not a fucking safe space. If you want that, out of here. Quit crying. I'm not a leftist but they are unironically the ones who aren't fucking complaining all the time.

>>18672318
Now be a good retard and make me an altar. I'm Hitler, boy. Now, go and make me proud.

just got done with work out
hope I keep this up
I'm feeling it, this is it

>>18672448
>I'm not a leftist
You're not only a fragile nigger loving bitch but you're a liar too.

>>18672318
>>18672448
both of you faggots are annoying, get a life.

>>18672460
Make me an altar, anon. This is Hitler talking to you. You should make some stupid superstition ritual. I'm asking it, pure retardation. Please, I need my offerings here back in hell. Or Satan is going to ram my ass.

>>18672463
No, fuck you. I'm having fun. Out of here, hide the thread or just ignore it.

>>18672463
He started it.

>>18672476
My offerings, anon. I'm waiting. Pay your respects to your elders.

>>18672476
I promise I'll treat you nice when you get here, anon. I won't ram your ass too hard if you get me my offerings.

>>18672476
And I promise I'll treat you nice. I won't be like this mean anon who is mistreating you on /lit/. Hell will be your safe space, anon. Just make my offerings, please.

That was easy.

>>18672428
I'm doing an afterlife romance. Most of my series so far has been about death and the afterlife and naturally I got attached to some of my characters and wanted to give them a happy ending.
I'm planning on it being ~300 pages or so (more when printed as a paperback) and I'm kinda nervous about making the jump from adventure fantasy to fantasy romance but it's working out okay. I spent a lot of time trying to make a reference and piecing it all together. In a day or two I'll likely show it but I need to type a lot out in notepad first before I do. I'm going full dork. The whole nine yards.

>>18672476
that vibeo is wild, the way he shoots at them and they just fuckin' stand there. Not even an NPC in a video game would react like that

also I read Dune and it was good. It felt similar to Game of Thrones in a way. Surely GRRM took a lot of influence from Dune.

>>18672579
neat, i wish could stick with something long enough to write that many pages. do you have a title yet, or something to look for when you post it?

>>18672589
I have a title and most of the scaffolding for the book already planned, and because I'm a big dumb I've leaked the title a few times but oh well. When I go to sell it as long as the copyright office doesn't eyeball me funny everything should be fine.
I take pictures of my writing with my phone so Amazon's websearch algo doesn't pick up my work since I like using KDP select so expect two pictures of my screen. Of course posting both screenshots requires me to have something interesting to say so that's a plan and a half. It'll be in one of these WWOYM threads but the writing is a first draft kind of thing anyway so I'll be fixing/changing things so it's more readable down the line.
I just hope my cringe makes you guys laugh and/or smile. It'll be good fun I think.

>>18672629
>I just hope my cringe makes you guys laugh and/or smile. It'll be good fun I think.
looking forward to it lol

okay, so I'm a straight white guy (duh; this is /lit/)

the girl I'm talking to on a dating app and she said she only reads fiction 'by queer people and POC'

what should I say?

>>18672649
Ask her if she read George Sand or George Eliot.

>>18672649
>okay, so I'm a straight white guy (duh; this is /lit/)
go back to wherever you came from

>>18672649
why the fuck you talking to us for?
ask her for some recs, and maybe say something about yourself like how you've never really payed attention to the author's ethnicity or something like that.

>>18672649
> I'm a straight white guy (duh; this is /lit/)
kek

>>18672649
>okay, so I'm a straight white guy (duh; this is /lit/)
superb bait

>>18672649
>straight white guy (duh; this is /lit/)
Mods, /sffg/ is leaking.

I want to jack off
hmm....
I'm trying to cut off porn, but nothing's stopping me from jacking off right?
maybe I should just...

i want to play a video game for a couple hours tonight but not some long as narrative driven grindy shit that will make me want to spend the next two weeks on it. maybe i will install that last doom game that came out and just play deathmatches while listening to audiobooks. still the shit is like 60 gigs and i'm not in the mood to download all that.

>>18665893
You know in sci-fi, there are sometimes these Lovecraftian cosmic horrors which wander the stars, consuming planets and driving civilizations mad? That's humanity, that's our endgame. The reason that aliens haven't made contact with us isn't because of some disclosure or whatnot. It's because we are literally the first intelligent life in the universe. We are that ancient civilization which the later alien civilizations will study.

And look at the way things are trending, anon. Ever since the dawn of civilization, we humans have grown more connected. First it was disconnected tribes, then hierarchal societies, then more complex ones. Now billions of people are managed and controlled to form a complex organism which we call global civilization. But the physical is only so important, it's the mental fusion which truly matters. The internet, mass media, etc. is driving our brains to think the same way, to consume the same stimuli. As neural technology grows more advanced, the creation of a hive mind, where all humans think the same exact way and obey the same central programming is inevitable. Is it so impossible? Imagine a tiny group of elite, writing orders to the brains of billion through the use of something like Musk's Neuralink.

And that is the final stage of humanity. A insectoid, hive species which travels across the stars, consuming all in its path and serving a central command's will.

>mfw doing diversity training for my job that is filled with 100% exclusively white people

also lol seinfeld captcha

>>18672802
american?

>>18672803
Australian.

>>18672809
man, the cancer is spreading fast, huh

>>18672811
Anglosphere is one thing in cultural terms at this point, whatever America does they (along with the rest of the West, let's be real) follow.

>>18672811
don't care, i want more diversity because 90% of white girls are brain dead narcissists

can Aristotelean ethics/virtue ethics be reconciled with egoism? is it possible to believe in both without completely contradicting oneself?

>>18672820
yea bro they'll just be importing hot chinese girls

>>18672649
that she is a fucking retard and should hang herself.

>>18672175
hahaha fucking great story but eh your situation is as simple as doing the problem is doing is hard especially doing consistently.
Maybe go see a doctor you retard and find ways to self actualize aka take governsership of your life and accept you cause your own suffering aka be an adult.

>>18672237
Yeah most people live are busy and have things to do like responsibilities.
What responsibilities do you have anon?

>>18672282
No it isnt lol, you are here because you dont belong in the normie world

>>18672452
Hitler did some things wrong but if you think Hitler is an anomaly in World History is ignoring the Jewish revolt that lead to their greatest and longest lasting Diaspora
>Committing Genocide against Roman citizens is totally not a reason for Hadrian to Genocide your people

>>18672802
Diversity training = admit you are a sinner and repent by giving some foreign entity moral power over your social group aka your life

>>18672466
Hitler was a War Hero who got the equivalent of the Medal of Honor TWICE.
A man who faced the armed Police and did not abandon his Brothers only to be shot and go to prison for a capital offence.
and instead of buckling under the pressure he wrote a big fuck you.
Only to become leader of the greatest political party in centuries and take over the entire country.
If anybody here talks trash about Hitler they are really admitting that they are nothing but Students who should be attending Jelly school because they are Jelly.

>>18671905
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=86HUcX8ZtAk
>Go to sleep on time and the same time
>Get up on time and the same time
>Stop eating 3 hours before bed just drink tea or something non caffeinated or sugary
>Walk 30+ minutes per day and Jog twice a week
>Get sun light
>Eat fruits and veggies
>Relax take a bath, do the video muscle relaxation, yoga etc.
>Reward yourself for doing better and accept the mistakes you make you are only human you arent a super hero you will make mistakes and that is ok
anyways have fun with the muscle relaxation thing

>>18672809
Do you ever notice this weird thing where some people assume Australia is way more multicultural than it actually is. You can get a warped perspective depending on where you live (where I live, it seems like every single person on the street is Korean, for example), but white people are still the vast majority according to the census. I only bring that up because of the way people talk about diversity in TV here - i.e. Australian TV being too white. I don't really care about what colour the people on my TV are but I think some second gen ethnic kids go to really ethnic schools and then think the entire country is like their small enclave.

>>18668813
how did you find out about the others?

>>18665893
CURSE MY PRIDE GOD FORGIVE ME. MECHANISTIC COMPUTATION, ROTE MEMORIZATION, IS A PREREQUISITE FOR LOGICAL ENLIGHTENMENT. 1 YEAR OF STAGNATION, READING PHILOSOPHY, WASTED. SLAVERY IS A PREREQUISITE FOR FREEDOM. THE ROSARY IS A PREREQUISITE FOR BEATIFIC CONTEMPLATION. THE DEEP STATE IS RIGHT. THE BUGMEN ARE RIGHT. CURSE MY PRIDE. I NEED TO RELEARN MY MULTIPLICATION TABLES. I FAILED STANDARDIZED TESTS BECAUSE I SOUGHT THE HIGHER LOGIC AND TRUTH OF MATHEMATICS AND THEREFORE OVERTHOUGHT EVERY PROBLEM PRIDEFULLY. LITTLE DID I KNOW THE FORMULAIC MEMORIZATION, LIKE GRAMMAR, IS REQUIRED BEFORE I REACH THE FRUITS OF LOGIC. I MUST ACCEPT MY BRAIN IS TOO UNDERDEVELOPED FOR PHILOSOPHY. I HAVE LOST THE RIGHT TO AUTISM. THE AUTISTIC INNOCENCE OF MY YOUTH MUST BE REPLACED BY THE LUCID SELF-SLAVERY UNDER THE YOKE OF NORMALFAGGOTRY. I HAVE TASTED GOD IN MY YOUTH. I WILL BECOME A WORLDLING WITH THE TASTE OF GOD IN MY LIPS---THIS WILL PREVENT MY SOUL BEING LOST

>>18673728
>anyways have fun with the muscle relaxation thing

Man idk what's wrong with me but I just do NOT get these muscle relaxation things. I don't feel like I am able to 'relax' any one specific muscle - I don't know if that's because it's already relaxed or if it's too tense or whatever, but the concept seems beyond me. I don't know how to 'let the tension flow out of my muscles'. Something that has definitely helped me is learning how to breathe from my diaphram though. That is a night and day difference there.

ONLY THEN WHEN I HAVE SUBMITTED TO THE SLAVERY OF A WORLDLING, ONLY THEN WHEN I MASTER BEING AN INSECT IN THE HIVE, I WILL REATTAIN THE AUTISM OF MY YOUTH, ENTER SAGEHOOD, CALL UPON THE SACERDOTAL-SCIENTIFIC SPIRITS OF GOD, AND RESUME THE WORK OF MY CHILDHOOD: THE INNOCENT CONTEMPLATION OF THE FORMS BEYOND THE ARTIFICIAL DIVISIONS IMPOSED BY MAN AND HIS DEMONS, THE UNIFICATION OF THE SCIENCES, REIGNITION OF THE SACREDOTAL-SCIENTIFIC TRADITION AS EXEMPLIFIED BY THE PRE-17th CENTURY JESUITS AND CLERIC-PRIESTS. SYSTEMATIZE, REFOUNDATIONALIZE. I GIVE UP PHILOSOPHY AND AUTISM IN THE RADICAL ATTEMPT TO DESTROY MY PRIDE. I HAVE THE EAGER HOPE OF REUNITING WITH MY LOVE WHEN MY BRAIN IS RIPE AND TRAINED TO THE SOULLESS MACHINATIONS OF SOCIETY. I HAVE SENT MY POWER LEVEL TO A LONG DORMANCY.

>>18674062
is this the new Death Grips single

Aphorism of the Day

If you want to look under the world's skin to see what really holds it together, all you have to do is find a beautiful woman, kidnap her, and cut the skin off her face.

WHEN I WAS A KID I COULD PUT MY HANDS IN FRONT OF MY EYES SITTING CROSS-LEGGED ON MY BED AT NIGHT AND FEEL INTENSE SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS. I WOULD FEEL EXTREME TERROR AND WANT TO GO BACK TO BEING AN AUTOMATON, WHICH I WOULD AFTER A FEW SECONDS. I THEN LOST THAT ABILITY AFTER MIDDLE SCHOOL AND CONSEQUENTLY SPENT MY TEENAGE YEARS IN WRATH THAT I COULD NO LONGER BE SELF-CONSCIOUS AND REGRET THAT I DIDN'T TAKE THE ECSTASY TO IT'S CONCLUSION AND PERSIST IN THE TERROR-STATE AND MEET GOD. MY ATTEMPTS TO GO BACK TO THE INNOCENCE OF MY YOUTH ARE IN VAIN. I AM POLLUTED, I HAVE DEVELOPED PRIDE, AND THEREFORE GOD HAS WITHDRAWN THE GRACE OF SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS. I WILL NOW REST CONTENT AND BE WHAT I AM--A SOULLESS AUTOMATON WHO HAS TASTED GOD IN HIS YOUTH. WHEN I ERADICATE MY PRIDE I WILL PLEAD GOD TO RETURN THE GRACE OF YOUTHFUL AUTISM AND FACE THE TERROR OF SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS I WAS TOO WEAK TO FACE AS A CHILD. I RENOUNCE AUTISM FOR THE PRESENT AND ACCEPT AUTOMATISM. CURSE MY PRIDE AND GOD FORGIVE ME AMEN

>>18666263
To most people, yes. It's a common trend in "entertainment".

>>18666330
I hope it works out, friend

>>18674063
Lay down flat on your back on the ground.
Where do your feet point to?
is your lower back flat or hollow?
Anyways there are many exercises/movements you can do to feel the tension but you can also just do the muscle relaxation and then compare your feet position before and after etc.

its really simple

1. Breathe in 4 seconds
2. as you hold your breathe for 2 seconds flex aka tense up a muscle like squeeze your fist
3. Breathe out for 4 seconds or 6 seconds depending on how relaxed or comfortable it is

just doing the 4 in, hold 2 and breath out 6 seconds by itself will relax you.
just do it for a couple minutes.

another way to see if you are stressed is by sitting down on the floor in the middle of thr room where there is space and then just sit.
>yes just sit
if your mind starts focusing on all sorts of things instead of going blank you are 100% stressed.
Doesnt mean its excessive stress but its a sign you are mentally not relaxed.

So to become relaxed mentally as you sit there you focus on 1 thing first and then the next but all of it has to be outside of you.
>Use your senses my padawan
Feel the cool draft or warm sun
Hear the birds chirp, cat miauw or dogs bark or even a car pass
then after you did that for a bit try not thinking again and this time focus on nothing if you drift off just pull back and think nothing

then comes the part you can use to sleep better

focus on a fantasy world
Where are you?
-beach
-forest
-countryside
-some other relaxing place
Who is there
-just you?
-a friend
-a fantasy friend
-your harem
What are you doing?
-sunbathing
-fishing
-drinking
-eating
-walking
-talking

anyways pick 3 things
Where who what and focus on those 3 without detail
just repeat
Beach
Harem
nude sunbathing
over and over till you fall asleep

then have an awesome dream about a harem on the beach

>>18674029
Stephan Balliet posted his picture and when i saw his face in the livestream i had a panic attack or something fell over got up and watched

The Allen Texas brothers called me "Hilly Billy" on Omegle and im convinced Omegle connects people who have the same search results and website visits.
So far chance they were on 4chan.
Also they didnt show their face but their room had this weird green color you see a lot in East Indian homes hut barely in European homes.
Pic related is the color you see a lot in Indian homes.
And they showed their wall instead of their faces on omegle
also they talked about depression and i compared it to breaking your leg and people ignoring your leg is in a goddamn cast
but because they talked shit to me "hilly billy" aka retarded murican redneck i told them to go fuck themselves after they started whining about mommy bsing mean
like bro you just insulted me for no reason and now want me to listen to your sob story even though you are an adult who should just get professional help?

no offense but some people have illnesses and some people are just cry babies with mental illnesses

>>18674029
Stephan Balliet asked which button to put on his hat
He had a Sonnenrad, something else and Moonman.
And i was winding up my lefty friends with Moonman memes and changing my discord tag to moonman n stuff
So i told him moon man.
dont think he actually used the hat and button in the shooting but he did pose for a picture with it.

i thought he was talking shit cause it was on /b/

then like 4-6 weeks later he shoots up the Halle Synagogue

Is there a literary piece where a person is in love with another one, and the other one laments not being able to give the love back for having the wrong sexual orientation?
Something in the sense of "All the love you feel, I wish I could love you back!"?

>>18674452
Harry Potter

>>18674436
Didn't read any of the text, but could I have seen this guy posting his selfie on /mu/'s /metal/ and getting butthurt when people called him out for it?

>>18674458
Are you jesting, or is that really in the books?
I actually read when I was in primary, but can't remember any of it.

sometimes I will make posts on a subject I've been thinking about, then argue vehemently a point I don't know whether I agree with

Considering experimenting with psychedelics to reprogram my mindset.

>>18674473
probably something gay in the Harry Potter books why else would the rainbowmancers freak out when their Queen banishes troondom from the Rainbow kangdom?

>>18674466
Metal?
He is the Halle Amoklaufer and hated Jews
Metal is full of Jewpandering these days

>>18674483
heard xtc makes it easier to get over trauma but it requires a therapist

I just have no interest whatsoever in science fiction or science anything really.

>>18674523
I've had that one. Helped me a bunch four years ago.
I'm now considering the real shit. LSD or stronger.

>>18668221
I didn't mean to post anything well written, that is just a quote from a serial killer. It's something that came to mind, the contrast between how a psychopath sees the violence of war and how it affects him compared to how it does on a normal person.

>>18674552
Then read something else.

How should I tell my parents I'm a bisexual fag? I got a boyfriend and don't want to hide anything from them

>>18674946
just start sucking your dads dick while fucking your mom, they'll get the hin

>>18674946
haha imagine telling your parents
>hey mom, hey dad... i love to stick my wiener in poop and suck my boyfriends poop covered wiener
>do you still love me
lol i dont get why insane asylums are closed
people like you could really use them

>>18675158
But muh laxatives and bleach!

>>18674775
I do but I believe science fiction has an important place in literature right now. I just don’t find it enjoyable enough to read myself.

How would you decide between two possible paths for each other?

Like let’s say you have to choose between two colleges but want to go to both, or between sports but want to play both, or whatever. You get the idea. How do you actually decide which one to go with?

>>18675281
in all seriousness, flip a coin or roll a die. the most obvious way to let fate decide

>>18673728
>>18672531

>>18675281
i go for both and which ever I excel at I choose

like if im always on the field and never on the benchand i know i wont be pro anyways then choosing the lesser club is fine
if you think you can be pro but get put on the bench and see no improvement how do you think you will ever be scouted?

same with colleges
if the prestige of the college matters later in life but it means having to go through hell for 4 years make sure you are capable of doing it
or
choose the lesser college and have fun etc. great grades

me i prefer to be the best of the worst for things i do for fun
but if im serious i want to be part of the best
i never gave a shit if i ended 4th or 5th during high school try outs with like a 100 kids
at least im one of the best and i gave my all
and i was always in the top 5 or 10 depending on how difficult and strong the competition
long jumps i competed against 6'4 guys while i was still 5'7 and i gave them a run for their money
the dude in my class who became semi-pro in basketball always had a hard time against me
i love a challenge but it has to be worth it or i have to want it
otherwise its just having a good time with friends and then being an tryhard dickhead is just annoying

tl:dr what is important to you friends and family or prestige and Money and can you deal with losing/not getting one or the other?

Fuck bros, everytime I read something insane (like this >>18675204 or the newspaper) or see something insane (like the works of Jun Hayami or the news), I feel the urge to contort my face and to flail my arms and hands around - and more often than not, I give in to the urge. If I were under surveillance, I'd be sent me to the loony bin.

I work at a university and find it hard to live with myself. Crisis of conscious aside, no good fiction writer would’ve subjected themselves to working staff at a Uni. I’m not even faculty. I’m a an old joke and should kms immediately.

>>18675357
What if one seems more worthwhile but the other comes more naturally.

>>18675357
>what is important to you friends and family or prestige and Money and can you deal with losing/not getting one or the other?
Neither are ultimately that important I guess if I’m being honest. My dilemma is not literally between colleges, if i didn’t make that clear.

>>18666330
I was in a similar situation. We were talking every day, but once she realized I had romantic feelings for her she blocked me.

>>18675367
Yes, you would. This sounds comical.

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