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What are some books about the state of men in contemporary society?

>> No.18688785
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>>18688757

>> No.18688786

>>18688757
start with the greeks

>> No.18688793

>>18688786
Are you going to post this in every thread now? It's getting old real fast and the only thing you'll acomplish is that people will disregard the advice

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>>18688757

>> No.18688801

>>18688757
A man myself, I find this slightly stupid. If men are falling behind, they need to git gud. It's not society's job to make your life easy, and if that is what you want you can easily become a woman nowadays.

>> No.18688809

>>18688793
I don't care. I see the same questions every day and the greeks are the answer. I can't make you drink but I will continue to throw the water in your face until you drink or drown slave

>> No.18688818

>>18688801
I hope this is bait but there is a difference between a society that is fertile ground for men becoming men and those (like ours) that sabotage men. No, it's not society's job, but our society is actively working against men. The situation gets worse with every generation raised without male role models.

>> No.18688820

>>18688757
Doesn't seem like that to me though I live in the midwest so maybe it's a coastal thing

>> No.18688823

>>18688801
>A man myself, I find this slightly stupid. If men are falling behind, they need to git gud. It's not society's job to make your life easy
We'd never be where we are today if that's what w*men were told lmao. W*men are the Jews of gender, they couldn't compete with men on our terms so they changed the entire social landscape to fit their incompetence and now they're gaslighting us into thinking that it's somehow men's fault we're falling behind. YWNBAW

>> No.18688824

>>18688818
>but our society is actively working against men.
How so?

>> No.18688826

>>18688809
I'm the anon from the Mccarthy thread retard, I have read the Greeks. You are too autistic to see that you will only accomplish the opposite of what you intend this way. If you see the same questions every day it means you spend too much time here.

>> No.18688829

>>18688809
The Greeks are unironically the answer in this case. We must emulate them and become bisexual misogynists

>> No.18688833

>>18688793
>now

>> No.18688835

>>18688824
Are you retarded or do you just live under a rock?

>> No.18688839

>>18688798
>>18688828

>> No.18688841

>>18688824
Look around you

>> No.18688854

>>18688826
I am merely carrying a torch that has been burning for millennia. you are a worm.

>> No.18688865

>>18688824
Well yesterday my homeroom teacher made me put my phone away because I was showing my friend a meme of bugs bunny in a suit that said i wish all communists a very pleasant die

>> No.18688867

>>18688824
Anon, I...

>> No.18688871

>>18688835
>>18688841
Non-arguments. All I see is liberation, women having equal opportunities career-wise and sex-wise instead of being slut-shamed for fooling around before marriage and then get shoved into kitched for the rest of their lives.

>> No.18688874

>>18688854
Lmao all you are carrying is too much belly fat

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/ourguy/ general?

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>>18688871
Aha

>> No.18688890

>>18688882
Is this how you respond when your insufficient intellect gets challenged?

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>>18688881

>> No.18688896

>>18688757
Nina Power, What Do Men Want? (forthcoming this year)

>> No.18688899

>>18688882
It's SUPPOSED to be bait you retard. You think your clever for recognizing an obvious shitpost?

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>>18688874

>> No.18688912

>>18688903
>when you see it

>> No.18688917

>>18688823
>they changed the entire social landscape to fit their incompetence
Damn, seems like women get shit done

>> No.18688921

>>18688757
Whenever I sit down somewhere I just draw or write, and I feel much more ashamed about it than if I were just scrolling social media on a laptop. I don't know why.

>> No.18688930

>>18688903
Incomprehensibly based

>> No.18688955

>>18688786
Nigger, the greeks got us here.

>> No.18688958

>>18688903
Did you find that on google? Very impressive

>> No.18688961

>>18688955
No, Christian cuckoldry did.

>> No.18688968

>>18688793
4channel 2021

>> No.18688973

>>18688903
Yeah I'm thinking keyed...

>> No.18688976

>>18688955
wrong, we are he because nobody is starting with the greeks
>>18688958
its me

>> No.18688989

>>18688976
>its me
Prove it

>> No.18688993

>>18688824
notice how all of the responses you got are bs. Society just doesn't idealize men anymore like they used to, thats all.

>> No.18689006

>>18688824
>>18688993
>tranny propaganda
>homo propaganda
>single mom propaganda
>promiscuity propaganda
>war replaced by ((sports))
>men are urged to consoom instead of produce
>examples of classical masculinity removed and mocked
Now that doesn't mean it's impossible to be a man, just that it's very heavily discouraged compared to any other time in history

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>>18688989
no.

>> No.18689018

>>18689006
the greeks already solved all of this. read them.

>> No.18689021

>>18688903
How do I attain this physique?

>> No.18689022

>>18689011
You can take pics off homo sites all you want, just proving my point

>> No.18689028

>>18688976
>>18688961
>wrong, we are he because nobody is starting with the greeks
Nah. The greeks gave way to rome and rome gave way to christianity. Sure christianity is cuckoldry, but greek philosophy cannot sustain a civilization.
The modern world is born of starting with the greeks.

>> No.18689029

>>18689011
why do you take selfies like that tho anon

>> No.18689032

>>18688903
gonna have to give me some fucking tips

>> No.18689040

>>18689032
start with the greeks

>> No.18689047

>>18689040
talking about diet

>> No.18689054

>>18688824
>>18688993
Nice samefag. Here's a list for you:
>tax credits for hiring women over men
>tax credits for educating women over men
>"behavior" grades implemented in schools for the explicit purpose of lowering men's grades while not affecting women's
>higher insurance rates for men
>significantly lower burden of proof for crime in court. The classical example being men who died just because a woman said he raped her
>significantly higher punishment than women for the same crime
>woman who won't pay for her kids gets section 8 housing while men go to prison
>women can opt out of parenthood if desired while men can be forced into it by a woman
>in the US, men have to sign up for the draft or go to prison and never be eligible for financial aid
>universities actively sabotage men so they can prop up women
The nuclear family was the carrot at the end of the stick for men. Now the carrot is gone and only the stick remains.

>> No.18689055

>>18689047
The grecian diet is boypussy

>> No.18689057

>>18688989
This. Sharpie in pooper or GTFO.

>> No.18689062

>>18689006
Where does all of that come from? Who is making the propaganda? Is it society itself as a whole?

No, its just some unified trannies on twitter and tiktok who are able to make a lot of noise. And because most of us here are overexposed to those digital social channels, some assume its the whole of society. But go outside and actually go to places where people are working, and you won't hear a single shit, cause most people don't care about those things. They care about making money.

>> No.18689067

>>18689047
if you read the greeks you automatically get swole it's a known fact
you also start fucking other men

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>>18689062
>Where does all of that come from? Who is making the propaganda? Is it society itself as a whole?
Gee I wonder
>They care about making money.
They do, but it's just a nice bonus

>> No.18689118

>>18689054
If the nuclear family is so great, why are men being "forced" into it by women?

>> No.18689120

>>18688881
No. Raise your standards

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>>18689118
>t. 43 years old
>been noticing the relentless attacks on the family, men, and masculinity since I was old enough to understand it (12-13 years old)
Literally white men have been conditioned to be afraid of expressing masculinity for 30+ years.

>> No.18689126

>>18688757
American Psycho unironically

>> No.18689128

>>18689118
But they are not, there have never been more single parent "families" than now

>> No.18689135

>>18688785
Lmao fpbp

>> No.18689138

>>18689118
lmao

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>>18689054
We dominate within companies in the higher levels, most woman can't compete.
Companies will higher the best because they want to make money, they don't give a fck about small tax credits.
I don't know anything about the third one, if you got a source, pls show me.
I do somewhat agree with what's happening within law. But this is the result of our increasing victim fetish instead of a focus on the criminal and his offense (which used to be the case).
I agree with equal burden for the draft.
Problem with universities is that they have all become only left, they sabotage everyone because of it.

>> No.18689145

>>18688824
>he doesn't know

>> No.18689148

>>18689145
>he
xe

>> No.18689149

>>18689077
Ah I see that it was a mistake to take you seriously

>> No.18689159

>>18689124
>Science shows
I'm so sick of this at this point that I'm a bit ashamed of graduating in something connected to science (more to physics than to that shit thankfully) and I'm close to actively hating science. Does science evaluate the long term implications of tranny mental illness for social wellbeing or do they just focus on one isolated problem, declare that we need to call these nutters however they want to be called and lo and behold science is settled?

>> No.18689164

>>18689149
Suit yourself, keep ignorant.

>> No.18689176

>>18689140
>Companies will higher the best because they want to make money, they don't give a fck about small tax credits.
You have no idea of the amount and level of incompetent people who make up the majority of every corporation. The "best" are never going to make more money for the company past the bureaucracy and in-built processes, than tax relief or advertising through "diversity achievements".

>> No.18689183

>>18689118
Use your brain, frendo. Marriage IS great when you're able to find a loyal, non-promiscuous woman. However, now they are few and far between. Marriage sucks in most instances because the virtuous qualies of women (and men to a degree) have dropped immensely.

>> No.18689187

>>18689176
That anon has never worked in a corporate environment. I managed a team for nearly 2 years within a larger organization and the only people promoted were those who sucked the CEO's dick as hard as possible and found scapegoats to throw under the bus for the CEO's failings.

>> No.18689191

>>18689149
He's right. They purposefully undermine society in a great number of ways. Many of them will even admit this.

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>>18689140
DESU though, leftist traits do correlate towards the traits needed in social science, the opposite of right traits.

>> No.18689195

>>18688801
Based

>> No.18689201

>>18689191
But why? How could that possibly benefit them?

>> No.18689204

>>18689176
I was talking about highly competitive companies, not your postal office or your average pepsico.

>> No.18689207

>>18689201
Because while other men are distracted you can buy up all the housing, politic within government to dispossess more, allow 18+ churches to burn while if 1 syngogue burned down the ENTIRE COUNTRY WOULD COME TO A HALT and jews would be in the streets screaming.

By the time the straight white man wakes up, the entire country and every institution will be full of people already with their plans in place to further demoralize, dispossess and demonize them.

>> No.18689214

>>18689204
>highly competitive companies
what do you imagine is that? you think a worldwide multinational is any different? lol

>> No.18689227

>>18688801
Very idealistic but practically the individual can't do shit. This is the entire point of the society we live in, everyone's completely irrelevant as an individual

>> No.18689236

>>18689204
>I was talking about highly competitive companies
Yeah you mean the places that are the worst for it? Same. You'll understand once you get there.

>> No.18689238

>>18689207
Are white man actually the absolute most cucked race? They manage to throw away everything they have built over hundreds of years in the span of a few 50 years. While right now they are still the majority in all of their countries. You have to be a massive beta race to let that happen.

>> No.18689242

>>18689006
So thats all it takes to bring down men? Some fag propaganda?

>> No.18689247

>>18689227
>individual can't do shit.
there you go anon, thats why woman are taking over your job

>> No.18689258

>>18689242
obviously not, the hammering propaganda was just in function of the technoindustrial overlord we've built in the past few centuries

>> No.18689282

>>18689247
I used to be much more positive but I'm tired of hearing this shit now. This feel-good shit is just a way to cuck you into submission and keep you slaving away forever. The system has won. If I have to throw my life away for a reward that will never happen I'd unironically rather convert to a religion and pray, at least I'm doing it for God and not for some rich faggot.

>> No.18689284

>>18689238
Well... a good example is Reddit.
>polish chads chant some anti-jew shit
>reddit-le-damage-control.jpg
Go look at the damage control being done on Reddit.
Polish "anti-semitism" happens and the comments are flooded with pro-jew shit.
Not one comment that says:
>hey guys
>the holocaust did happen and jews have been persecuted, no doubt
>however, why are jews 2% of the usa population but like 80% of Biden's cabinet and his kids all married jews
Like even the most light criticism of jews is completely and totally expelled from all media. This is how you know who is in control. Most whites aren't even aware of the incredible jewish influence over everything.

>> No.18689289

>>18689021
Be a manlet. Dude is barely taller than the towel rack.

>> No.18689301

>>18689207
Hate to break it to you but the jews aren't the ones buying up property and politically alienating people. It's white boomers who refuse to pass the baton

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>>18689301
The subversion of the culture created the conditions where other cultures that see the value of ethnic communities and land ownership come flooding over.

Growing up, nobody in my generation thought owning a home was an accomplishment. Simply not becoming your parents was seen as the big accomplishment. My parents, in particular, were never "happy" people. They both never expressed having much joy in life and that bleak outlook was not something I wanted to share. Part of their bleak outlook was desperately clinging to home ownership, something I personally never valued.

These miserable people got old and rich, and now they control so much of society. Is it any wonder that they would vote for Trudeau no matter what? Oh well, it's their grandkids overdosing and dying.

>> No.18689335

>>18689238
>Are white man actually the absolute most cucked race?
I consider pre and post-WWII Whites to be different races. The Pre-WWII Whites are the ones you read about, the colonizers/conquerors, etc. The post-WWII Whites are the ones you see out in the street kneeling for BLM. Some people have a theory that each race has a soul. If that is true, the White race's soul died in WWII. I genuinely do not understand why modern conservative Whites want to "save" their countries. Bro, everything worth saving in your countries is dead. The only thing you have left is a higher standard of living than non-White countries, and that gap gets closer everyday.

>> No.18689358

>>18689140
certain countries are now forcing company boards to be at least 30-50% female, since there isn't enough women that qualified that simply means that the rest of the men on the board will have to take on more duties and responsibilities hence another case discrimination against men

>> No.18689376

>>18689159
Wow anon you disagreed with some shit spouted by a scientific journal, you're not an anti-science conspiracy theorist are you?

>> No.18689430

>>18688757
What a fucking loser.

>> No.18689456

>>18689006
>>war replaced by ((sports))
kek

>> No.18689480

>>18689159
>I'm so sick of this at this point that I'm a bit ashamed of graduating in something connected to science (more to physics than to that shit thankfully) and I'm close to actively hating science
Yeah, I guess we really should start avoiding teaching science in schools, nothing good ever came out of science

>> No.18689491

>>18689207
>allow 18+ churches to burn
tell me more, I don't remember this one

>> No.18689502

>>18689491
If you have been paying attention, 18 churches have burned to the ground in Canada since late May.

If a SINGLE synagogue had burned to the ground, there would be military mobilized to protect them.

>> No.18689508

>>18689502
That's the Christian's fault. Say whatever you want about the Muslims, they know how to handle such things.

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>>18688757
>posts this on twitter
As bad as the world is the only thing life teaches me is that it should be worse. I honestly hope the worst for OP, and the faggot in his screencap, I hope their entire families are raped and killed in front of them and they in turn die long slow humiliating deaths from aids and collapsed rectums.

My hopes are in vain, of course, but less so with each passing day.

>> No.18689526

>>18689502
>If you have been paying attention, 18 churches have burned to the ground in Canada since late May.
Ah that one
Well I can't say I don't know the reason why it happened

>> No.18689530

>>18688824
It's mostly men in prison.
It's mostly women in higher education.

Are you really this stupid or just pretending?

>> No.18689555

>>18689502
https://nationalpost.com/news/burn-it-all-down-head-of-b-c-civil-liberties-group-resigns-over-tweet-about-church-fires
>In a separate letter, the board of directors said, following Walia’s tweet, the organization faced “inexcusable racism and misogyny and threats to physical and mental safety.”
>“We encountered a wave of hateful commentary, fueled by the fact that our executive director is a racialized woman leader.”
>Still, the association said Walia’s tweet, “using a particular turn of phrase in that context” — ie. “burn it all down” — “left some people with the wrong impression about the values and principles to which we adhere.”
Amazing, I honestly had to double check if I wasn't reading TheOnion by accident. Some Paki who lives via western largesse celebrates and encourages the burning of churches and she gets to resign and her organization accepts it "with heavy heart" and it's all because she's being discriminated against.

>> No.18689565

>>18689555
I have literally heckled her a decade ago. She is the prime example of western rot where a brown immigrant can come here and rise to such a level where she can openly piss on the people born here and only after a ton of pressure she is finally punished and removed from her role.

If a white man had said something like that about any other group, can you imagine the massive protests that would erupt?

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>>18689555
I want to get off this planet

>> No.18689598

>>18689530
>It's mostly men in prison.
>It's mostly women in higher education.
This is biology desu

>> No.18689604

>>18689598
No it's just inequality of opportunity, are you some kind of fucking bigot?

>> No.18689613

>>18689555
I mean, I'm all for church burning and all, but the level of political discourse in your area is really disheartening
Sadly here is becoming the same

>> No.18689617

>>18689598
scrotes are the niggers of gender and yet you racists defend them whilst quoting the bellcurve.
amazing how stupid and ignorant men can be.

>> No.18689618

>>18689565
>I WUZ BORN HEER
Literal retard tier

>> No.18689630

>>18689555
Someone should burn her house down.
Metaphorically I mean.

>> No.18689631

>>18689618
This. Colonialism is based.

>> No.18689645

>>18689613
>I'm all for church burning
They're going to burn all the old monumental churches in Europe soon and nobody will do anything. At this point they could openly assemble parties to randomly kill white people in the streets and governments would be more concerned with curbing the possibilities of racist resentment than doing anything about the murder squads. It's really sad that this civilization will go down like this, in complete passivity.

>> No.18689651

>>18689604
>No it's just inequality of opportunity
That's definitely a factor, but probably not in the sense you think it is

>In 2019, the poverty rate in the United States was highest among people between the ages of 18 and 24 years old, with a rate of 17.1 percent for male Americans and a rate of 21.35 percent for female Americans. The lowest poverty rate for both genders was found in individuals between the ages of 65 and 74 years old.

Women commit less "crimes" (however you want to define them) because it's not evolutionarily advantageous (for them, usually)
For men, "crimes" (mostly violent crimes) are indeed an advantage for survival (at least to a certain degree)
>grug kill animal
>grug and gruga and gruglin eat animal
>Grug be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

>grug no kill animal because he feel kinda sorry for it
>grug dies
>grug no be fruitful

>> No.18689654

>>18689565
>her quality of life is 100% due to western civilization
>her life's job is fundamentally derived from western civilization's fixation with equity and her advancement therein is purely based on her race and gender
>despite living her entire existence as parasite she attacks the very host that enables and nurtures her celebrating the death of judeo-christian values that are the literal basis all social reform today
I will say this, it's easy to demonstrate that evil exists in the world so in a way I suppose that proves the opposite. These 'people' are cancers, tumors made of evil. I guess it's some consolation they will die right after the host does, being without merit or ability to face the world that awaits outside the western bubble.

Thank god for the Chinese.

>> No.18689657

>>18689631
Oh, I agree, and what better way to highlight how cucked Canadians are that Harsha was able to pull this shit for so long. I was banned from Twitter for calling her a social justice clown like 7+ years ago. These people are untouchable on social media, nothing they say will get a progressive brown immigrant banned.

>> No.18689662

>>18689617
>scrotes are the niggers of gender and yet you racists
I'm not racist btw

>> No.18689664

>>18689617
Not racist I just hate womemes.

>> No.18689668

>>18689654
>Thank god for the Chinese.
It will be very interesting to see how the progressives will adapt once the hegemon is a decidedly illiberal one. I predict chimpouts on a scale never seen before.

>> No.18689669

>>18689645
>heckled
The church randomly killed white people for centuries, I'm not sure what's your point.

>> No.18689670

>>18689651
You're looking at this in a very myopic and frankly eurocentric-classist way. There's all kinds of poverty in the world that could compel a person to commit crime. One might need to become a criminal to deal with a poverty of friends, poverty of sex, poverty of hope, poverty of prospects, poverty of love, etc... Frankly I find your post alarming and condescending. It's clear our society is disproportionately punitive against men in all kinds of respects.

>> No.18689674

>>18689555
Meanwhile if you're white and make an 'OK' symbol you can get cancelled and fired from your job. If you look at a native the wrong way you can get your face and name smeared over national television. Fresh off the boat immigrants are actively being taught to hate and resent white people by leftist demagogues and Fagmeet Singh is too busy trying to dismantle "white supremacist hate groups" to make a single statement against a serial arson campaign.
Honk honk.

>> No.18689676

>>18689669
I mean, one of the places burned down in Saskatchewan was a no longer owned by the Catholics. It was a museum.

>> No.18689678

>>18689525
The problem with the world today is there's not enough violence. There's a lot of people that need to die.

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>>18689678
Unfortunately I think a lot of people are going to feel that way when the quality of living continues to plummet.

What happens when the police no longer want to work at all?

>> No.18689681

>>18689678
Be the change you want to see in the world anon.
Just make sure you target the disease and not the symptoms.

>> No.18689691

>>18689335
>he post-WWII Whites are the ones you see out in the street kneeling for BLM. Some people have a theory that each race has a soul. If that is true, the White race's soul died in WWII.
I think the word you are looking for is egregores.
And yes the Western egregore is wounded, but it could rise again.
https://www.amazon.com/Egregores-Occult-Entities-Watch-Destiny/dp/1620555778/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1604HVJLHTZ26&dchild=1&keywords=egregores+the+occult+entities+that+watch+over+human+destiny&qid=1626822630&sprefix=egregore%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-1

>> No.18689696

>>18689555
If I hear the word racist one more time I'm playing Legos...

>> No.18689698

>>18689681
I can't possibly kill hundreds of millions of people. And it's the type of thing where if you don't wipe them all out the net effect is null.

>> No.18689699

>>18689670
>It's clear our society is disproportionately punitive against men in all kinds of respects.
Men are disproportionately more antisocial than women, because, again, that's what worked best for thousands of years.

>pregnant woman alone in the jungle
>dies in a hundred possible ways

>healthy man
>he can survive in a hundred possible ways (including killing other people and eating them)

That's why women talk more, why they are more emotional, why they guilt-trick you, or use sex as mean to an end, this is why secretaries or kindergarten teachers are predominantly female, etc, it's all about building a social circle.

You know that divorce meme?
>Wife:I'm going to stay with my mother until we sign all the papers
Can you imagine the opposite?
>Husband: I'm going to stay with my father until we sign all the papers.

>> No.18689704

>>18689618
Literal shitskin tier

>> No.18689719

>>18689618
Do you have the same policy when it comes to Israel, too?

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>>18689011

>> No.18689732

what an embarrassing thread

>> No.18689770

>>18689732
This is what happens when mfs get no pussy. They build a whole fantasy world of faux persecution and conspiracies in their heads.

>> No.18689773

>>18689770
Not a conspiracy that South Africa is falling apart and if you go to the CBC.ca website there is not even one mention of it.

>> No.18689777

>>18689770
I wilfully quit dating years ago because I concluded that modern white women are all whores.

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>>18689770
Just keep gaslighting bro. Its going to work out.

>> No.18689797

>>18689732
>>18689770
>noooo don't talk about over a dozen hate crimes and arsons being ignored if not actively justified by the political class and media, just ignore it lol. so cringe.
Fuck off. You'll get whats coming to you someday.

>> No.18689826

>>18689797
>You'll get whats coming to you someday.
You realize that's what happened to the church, right?

>> No.18689837

>>18689826
holy based

>> No.18689844

>>18689826
If its vengeance all the way down I accept your terms. History will be written by the victor anyways.

>> No.18689850

Just a reminder to those who are surprised that people seem incapable of understanding how society has affected men: they genuinely don’t understand the difference between mr limpdick soi boy 2021 and being an actual man. They see the guys who toe the line with this bullshit and espouse all their propaganda not as victims of social indoctrination but people acting in accordance with it all through their own volition.
They don’t believe that anyone can be harmed by all this because they don’t understand why it is harmful; what makes men, men, and what gives us meaning.

>> No.18689852

>>18688757
>one or two humpbacked men who dare leave their houses stare at their laptops in a catatonic state.
I'm building the infrastructure that lets you post this garbage, faggot.

>> No.18689881

>>18689826
Kek, indeed. The state of christcucks:
>steal, rape and murder for centuries while in power
>squeal and play victim once they're irrelevant and serve as cultural punching bag

>> No.18689885

>>18688757
>young women working their fake social media zoom jobs
What is with this? I've gone into office blocks just full of women in their 20s doing nothing but talk to each other. Is someone actually willing to pay them to do nothing just because they are pretty?

>> No.18689888

>>18689852
post socks

>> No.18689892

>>18689881
A Christian is not the Vatican. an individual is not a state. You know this though, you just wanted to make a le ebin shit post regardless of how disingenuous it was.

>> No.18689893

>>18689885
Corporations are making up bullshit jobs (usually related to social media and HR) just to accomodate all those college educated hoes with no actual skill or intellect.

>> No.18689902

>>18689893
I dont see how they could be making any money for the company though.
Example, I was working in the office of a news site. Dozens of women in their 20s all walking back and forth, stopping to talk about non-work related topics, trying to look busy. Up the back corner there was like 6 older guys and women smashing away on their keyboards.
It has to be a matter of simply meeting some hiring quota or theres a horn dog manager somewhere who enjoys coming into the office and having the attention of pretty young women.

>> No.18689915

>>18689892
Vatican is obviously the worst offender by far, but every single christian branch all across the world has been involved in some shady or outright malevolent activitiy. Molesting kids being the golden standard.

>> No.18689924

>>18689915
>but every single christian branch all across the world has been involved in some shady or outright malevolent activitiy
Again with the le ebin shit posts.

>> No.18689941

>>18689902
It’s not about the company really. The company HAS to comply because of the risk of legal action if they are seen as discriminatory or not reaching their quotas or w/e, but these makes-up jobs for women are encouraged by every bank, corporation and government there is because women give most of their pay right back to those people.
They are the biggest spenders, very compliant with new policy and good at spreading propaganda/hr mandates. Plus the eye candy and chance at an affair etc.
But ultimately just a big fucking game of hot potato with money until it falls back to the banks.

>> No.18689952

>>18689732
>>18689770
>>18689881
>>18689844
It's amazing to see the transition from "it's not happening; it's all in your head." to "It is happening, but it's a good thing." all in one thread.

>> No.18689954

>>18689006
the second world war caused a lot of people to grow up without a father

>> No.18689964

>>18689915
And Muslims chop people's heads off and marry 10 year olds but Islam isn't that bad right?

>> No.18689965

You niggers want a real response?

A big part of this is white guys getting hooked on porn, internet and gaming and eschewing physical fitness in favor of becoming a fat tub of lard with brittle bones and ineffective muscles.

If white men had their shit together better you'd take alot less shit. But you let yourselves get caught in dead end vices instead of acting virtuous. And don't lie, you are full of vices you are not wrestling with but control you. I'm not a fool so don't pretend you don't.

Get some sophrosyne, get some self knowledge, and start getting more control over yourself and your world.

>> No.18689971

>>18688801
Literally all I do is spend time "gitting gud"..one day you'll wake up. Do you think past generations had to spend all their time "gitting gud"? No they just went out and did shit and it worked. Yet we're endlessly sold dreams, and self help from fake as fuck social personalities who humble brag all day long.

>> No.18689975

>>18689964
Islam is just as bad.

>> No.18689976

>>18689965
>A big part of this is white guys getting hooked on porn, internet and gaming
This is more of a symptom than a cause desu. Like this mass addiction to porn coincided with a massive economic crash

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>>18689971
Live life, be, do, and make shit yourself!

>> No.18689979

>>18688903
>this is average now

>> No.18689984

>>18689915
The molestation of children is their only real crime. Everything else that has been done is justified by the fact the fact that the Christian cause is worth more than all of human life and any individual life. I know you've been impoverished by the cult of human rights and the body worship that accompanies it, but don't think the shallowness of your existence makes you righteous.

>> No.18689987

>>18689965
Don't chop all the rungs off the ladder, stand on the top, and say, "dude, just try really hard and you can make it".
People will just play with imaginary ladders instead.

>> No.18689993

>>18689530
Why do you expect me to sympathise with criminals?

>> No.18690001

>>18689975
As shit as the institutions and esp. the Vatican were throughout the years, Christianity did far more good than any other religion combined. I don't subscribe to this idea that white culture has always been nothing but exploitative. Everyone else did the same shit and worse so I don't get why suddenly it's only whites and white institutions who are evil and deserve to be exterminated

>> No.18690004

>>18689984
very based

>> No.18690011

>>18689984
>the Christian cause is worth more than all of human life and any individual life
It's just bronze age semitic superstition, transformed into social control tool to wrangle gullible plebeians. Can you prove otherwise?

>> No.18690012

>>18689965
And guess who is fucking selling the porn?? Why do you think all those porn sites are free? Men used to control the relationship but now there is no relationship, there's just sex right away which women completely control. So now you have tons of pussy whipped simps and other men who are just addicted to the pussy that women are told not to safekeep anymore under the guise of "lliberation", it's all degenerated shit.

>> No.18690014

>A coffee shops is the perfect place to analyze technocratic society

He's a dumbfuck and anyone taking him seriously is as well.

>> No.18690021

>>18689952
>It's not happening
>They're just an internet strawman
>You're crazy
>Actually it is happening and its a good thing
>It was always like this

>> No.18690026

>>18688801
They are falling behind in female metrics. It doesn't really matter

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>>18689965
>You niggers want a real response?
>Jumps on his hobby horse
>Neigh, neiiiigghhhh

>> No.18690043

>>18690026
Female metrics are shit though, or rather what is considered "feminine" today. Men arent falling behind in wanting to get married young and have kids, which not so long ago was the archetypal female obsession.

>> No.18690044

>>18690001
History isn't a fucking Excel spreadsheet where you can come up with (highly arguable) net positive. Something as drenched in blood and exploitation as institutional christianity has no place in 21st century, other than serving as historic relic - which is exactly what it's becoming now, fortunately. Islam is on the rise and more threatening, because it's hypocritically protected by western liberals.

>> No.18690051

>>18690011
No matter what it is, in arguing that there is a greater purpose than protecting lives and maximizing the comforts lavished upon them, it's inherently superior to the cult of human rights we have today. The aesthetic and cultural tradition it developed is more than enough to demonstrate its worth, this becomes especially clear whn that tradition is compared to the cultural output of the post-human rights world.

>> No.18690058

>>18690021
Usually they're smart enough to wait for another thread to do it. It's hard to look at those posts without feeling a little bit of whiplash.

>> No.18690059

>>18690044
On the rise among 80 iq arabs. Ive lived in Western Europe for about 6 years and its only the inbred who remain in their enclaves who are still faithful. Those that try to integrate become degenerates. Theres even a common practice among muslim women to only have anal sex until marriage so that they can remain technically virgin.

>> No.18690069

>>18690059
>Theres even a common practice among muslim women to only have anal sex until marriage
THAT ONE HALAL TRICK

>> No.18690074

>>18690001
>why suddenly it's only whites and white institutions who are evil and deserve to be exterminated
Because whites are the only race dumb enough to accept such blame. You guys cry all day about how unfair it is that some brown woman is spewing her anti-Western ideology in the West, on the West's dime. Do you know why she is not going to Saudi Arabia or China to do that? It is because the Arabs and Chinese do not tolerate such things. The West does. Don't be shocked when people denigrate you if you let them.

>> No.18690076

>>18690051
So there's no evidence, not even a solid argument to tolerate this decayed, peasant-extorting, child-molesting, heretic-burning corpse of an institution but the robes are based and aesthetic? Come on now.

>> No.18690086

>>18689892
>A Christian is not the Vatican
Not sure what your point is here. From what I read, not a single person has been harmed during the arsons.

>> No.18690087

>>18690069
Imams hate it!

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>>18690076
Beauty only comes from the divine, anon!

>> No.18690100

>>18690074
Yeah man but it's not my fault. I never enabled the shit that's going on right now.

>> No.18690110

>>18690051
>No matter what it is, in arguing that there is a greater purpose than protecting lives
I thought Christianity was about "life is God's miracle" ? Now "protecting life" is not important?

>> No.18690111

>>18688786
Based. Keep posting this.

>> No.18690113

>>18690074
Please tell me you're just pretending.

>> No.18690116

>>18690113
he's entirely right

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>>18690076
The gothic has become part of the System of Objects.

>> No.18690119

>>18690088
Yeah it's exquisite architecture.

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>>18690074
This is 100% true, but when white people start to organize (just like every race does) it's demonized and outright made illegal by the media and government. See Fagmeet's recent push to disband 100+ "right wing extremist" organizations, while belonging himself to a hyper-insular ethno-cultural group that has turned open carrying into a religious requirement and attending rallies that glorify terrorists.
That said, if we don't push back somehow we'll get walked all over. Burn it all down and so on.

>> No.18690157

>>18690144
As a Euro I feel rather powerless but I wonder how burgers are not making use of their 2nd amendmentino while their towns got burned down by peaceful protests

>> No.18690164

>>18690076
>peasant-extorting, child-molesting, heretic-burning corpse of an institution but the robes are based and aesthetic?
I am willing to admit that the child molestation is bad, and I would have no problem with full investigations of the clergy and executions of those who were found to partake. Your other complaints really have no basis other than false one given to you by your leaders. There are greater things in the world than human live (which really is the most abundant and perhaps the least valuable of all resources on the planet) and goals far greater than lavishing comforts onto human bodies. You're also being rather reductive about aesthetics. I'm talking about the the entirety of the of artistic works and culture that have come from it, the aesthetic which they share is far greater, and has contributed to that of a far greater secular culture than our body worshiping life cult could ever hope to. The reason for this is precisely because it encourages living beings to strive for something greater than life itself.
>>18690110
Life made to serve something greater yes. There's a reason why those who life and its pleasures as ends in themselves will experience "wailing and gnashing of teeth." But ultimately , I am not a Christian, and the only reason I defend Christianity is because it has been an integral part of the broader western aesthetic.

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>>18690144
>Burn it all down and so on.

>> No.18690168

>there are faggots on this board who actually think race is a real issue that's definitely not forced by the media so that you don't start thinking about real issues
jesus

>> No.18690181

>>18690157
You're allowed to collect gunko pops and go to ranges for target practice, or to open carry as you waddle around the Sears parking lot in Indiana. But if you so much as wave one of your toys at the wrong person you will be in for a world of hurt. Best to keep collecting gunko pops and showing up at work each week.

>> No.18690185

It's pure nonsense to unironically think women are leaders. No. You're not. You're meant to birth children and take care of the house. The sooner women drop this bullshit the sooner we can get back to work. Women want to larp and leaders and they are replacing men entirely to do it.

>> No.18690190

>>18688903
BASED dabbing on un /fit/ /lit/ nerds

>> No.18690201

>>18690185
It really isn't women are for the most part just better at every aspect of the service economy than men are, so the transition to a service economy by and large meant one to a culture dominated by women.

>> No.18690207

>>18690144
>hyper-insular ethno-cultural group that has turned open carrying into a religious requirement
It's been like that for centuries, to my understanding
How many people are killed with those knives in Canada every year?
>attending rallies that glorify terrorists.
I'm not from Canada but I never heard such a thing

>> No.18690209

>>18689201
you need to understand the state of the world today would lead you to believe everything is done for material gain, this is not true, jews do these things because this is how they get their sick kicks, theyre a profoundly twisted people with lots of cultural hangups, Id feel bad for them if they werent such parasites

>> No.18690213

>>18690157
Well, the violence was literally in the inner cities where Whites are a minority anyway. The media impact is one thing, but the actual violence was mostly inflicted on non-Whites. It's ironic and unfortunate.

>>18690144
I don't understand how you guys keep acting powerless, you are literally the majority. It reminds me of how people react to the Jews. They literally gave everyone the blueprint on how to succeed as a race: be insular, ethnocentric, and don't give up anything. If the Sikhs learned from them, good for them. Whites should stop complaining and do the same.

> it's demonized and outright made illegal by the media and government
Then be more low-key about it. Minorities have been able to do so for many years in the West. You guys will probably be a minority sooner rather than later, so learn fast.

>> No.18690214

>>18690207
>How many people are killed with those knives in Canada every year?
It shouldn't really matter. same laws for everyone

>> No.18690215

>>18689118
bc most women suck and arent worth marrying

>> No.18690217

>>18690076
Humans are corruptible. Every organization they are a part of is as such corruptible.
The only thing that remains incorruptible is the word of the Lord.
With your line of argumentation all governments of the world should be rejected. All medical institutions. All universities and places of higher learning...

>> No.18690220

>>18690164
>Life made to serve something greater yes
No, life in itself, according to Chr*stians
> But ultimately , I am not a Christian, and the only reason I defend Christianity is because it has been an integral part of the broader western aesthetic.
Just a LARP then? You might as well call yourself a real one

>> No.18690223

>>18690164
>complaints really have no basis other than false one given to you by your leaders
Kek, what's that supposed to mean? Who exactly are these leaders you speak of? Did they somehow falsify all well-documented realities of the church hoarding wealth and influence throughout history, leeching of state funds and shamelessly bullying the lower classes, executing tens of thousands in kangaroo courts for opposing the dogma (or simply to confiscate their belongings) not to mention the hundreds of thousands slaughtered in ethnic cleansings or wars on false premises? Have you ever read a history book in your life?

There's no excuse for any of this, and don't bother with appeals to divine because those are nonsensical and worthless in rational discussion. That's just your personal belief in this context, nothing more. Presenting institutional christianity as the only viable opposition to far-left liberalism is idiotic as well.

>> No.18690226

>>18690043
Women are married to the ubermen which is the government they don't need no man for marriage. They need man for validation and other urges of not feeling void. Female metrics are traits that females value when they compare themselves to men. Take for example scholarship which females see as getting good grades

>> No.18690228

>>18690167
Clearly I mean burn down this oppressive system of racism that structurally oppresses white people to the benefit of a small and privileged class of Jewish elites, metaphorically speaking, by which I mean dismantle it nonviolently, in runescape. What did you think I meant, bigot?

I clearly don't mean that people should make a list of anti-white traitors and provocateurs like Harsha Walia or her coworkers at the BCCLA building on 268 Keefer St., Vancouver BC, and burn their house down or target them with political violence of any form, be it threats, graffiti, arson, or targeted assassination. Obviously that would be wrong, and you're purposely mischaracterizing me and ignoring the non-violent and revolutionary context phrases like "burn it all down" and "find out where they live and hurl a brick through their window at 4am" have in activist circles.

>> No.18690229

>>18690214
Good point
Personally my opinion is that we should eradicate every single religion from existence (so no more sikh knives), but somehow I think you wouldn't like it

>> No.18690234

>>18688824
prob baiting but ill try to give you some that havent been said yet
>microplastics in everything, literally killing your masculine hormone
>all new diets being pushed for the future are much worse for men than women
>schools are built around boys being humiliated by nagging henpecking old crones
>masculine role models in general lacking, really nobody worth looking up to whos given any kind of spotlight for young boys
>male only spaces dismantled and pozzed

>> No.18690241

>>18688801
its not societys job to make your life easy but a properly functioning shouldnt neuter half ur population's abilities

>> No.18690244

>>18690213
>I don't understand how you guys keep acting powerless, you are literally the majority
Our economy has worked to fracture the white population into two groups, those who are more citizens of a network of global urban communities than they are their own country (this is about 55% and I imagine more than 60% of those under 40) and those who think of themselves as members of their national/racial tribe. The former are perhaps the most radical and violent foots soldiers of the political left and they have enough institutional power to get away with any sort of violence they want. The latter are either powerless or too comfortable with their lifestyles to take any risks. The condition of the white race in America is looking more like that of the Eloi and Morlocks than anything else.

>> No.18690247

>>18690223
You speak of history but willingly ignore that Christians were persecuted for centuries before the Church gained any political power.
Christ wasnt the only Christian crucified by Romans.

>> No.18690249

>>18688893
bolano is basado

>> No.18690257

>>18690217
Governments, schools and medical institutions serve an objective purpose, you'd have to be insane to deny that. Religious organizations perhaps provide comfort for the (gradually decreasing) superstitious populace, but they have absolutely no place interfering with legislation or public funds.

>> No.18690259

>>18690229
>we should eradicate every single religion from existence
Western culture is inherently Christian, whether you like it or not. I'm not even religious but humanism was a fucking disaster.

>> No.18690262

>>18690244
Very good post. Cosmopolitan citizens of the world. I have family members like this.

>> No.18690263

>>18690220
>Just a LARP then? You might as well call yourself a real one
Why would I, there are things about it I appreciate, but I certainly don't think its theological claims have any truth to them.
>No, life in itself, according to Chr*stians
Again, they believe that about life because of its potential for purpose towards god. Everyone who sees life and its pleasures as the ultimate purpose of life is literally condemned to eternal suffering. I think you are so filled with a religious fervor of your own that you don't care to understand their position.

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>>18690259
Humanism is Christianity without God. You can't just wind something back and expect it not to roll forward again.

>> No.18690279

>>18690247
Well we don't have any Roman emperors still pestering us now, do we? They're history, in the same place where institutional christianity belongs. Just to make sure, I'm not advocating to take away your right to believe in whatever you want, or to damage/erase the historic heritage of christianity. But as a contemporary political influence, religion of any kind should be disregarded.

>> No.18690280

>>18690270
so you just said that God is necessary since removing just that from Christianity was a fucking disaster?

>> No.18690283

>>18688824
>How so?
>"If a young man gets married, starts a family, and spends the rest of his life working at a soul-destroying job, he is held up as an example of virtue and responsibility. The other type of man, living only for himself, working only for himself, doing first one thing and then another simply because he enjoys it and because he has to keep only himself, sleeping where and when he wants, and facing woman when he meets her, on equal terms and not as one of a million slaves, is rejected by society. The free, unshackled man has no place in its midst."

>"Men have been trained and conditioned by women, not unlike the way Pavlov conditioned his dogs, into becoming their slaves. As compensation for their labours men are given periodic use of a woman's vagina."

>"If praise is applied in the correct dosage a woman will never need to scold. Any man who is accustomed to a regular and conditional dosage of praise will interpret its absence as displeasure."

>"Someday it will dawn on man that woman does not read the wonderful books with which he has filled his libraries, and though she may well admire his marvelous works of art in museums she herself will rarely create, only copy."

>> No.18690285

>>18690262
I think citizens of the world doesn't really cut it. They're better describes as citizens of the international network of urban population centers or citizens of a global economy. These people have more in common with people in cities far across the world than they do with people in nearby rural communities. What they identify with could not possibly be considered the world.

>> No.18690286

>>18690257
>but they have absolutely no place interfering with legislation or public funds
I have to agree. Render unto Ceaser what is Ceasers. The Church chose to ignore this though, because humans (especially those with power) are easily corruptible :^)

>> No.18690294

>>18688893
"Adherence to wokeness."
No, it's because most writing programs shit out dozens of white guys who write the same knockoff HST and Henry Miller type bullshit. Its tired, and also publishers are in a position where they have to be able to market the shit out of new authors. Most of the white guys who write that kind of gritty "non-woke" shit aren't interesting enough to make their non-interesting prose marketable. Do you think publishing houses like reading the umpteenth depressing, whiskey-soaked Irish novel this year?

>> No.18690295

>>18688824
off the top of my head:
>as women got suffrage they never really grew out of their old ways of being pseudo children. as a consequence women have more opportunities because they can simply leech off whatever male of their choosing if they want (or none at all)
>the view of maleness never actually changed because society requires men to be in charge for it to actually function, leading to an inherent contradiction
there are other tthings going on too. it seems pretty obvious that corporations are actively attempting to pathologize men and maleness. i suspect the reason why is because women simply do not change anything. it is always males who begin political change, violence, revolution etc. women on the other hand are very skittish and will reliably not seek out things like raises on pay, political change etc etc

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>>18690283
>forgot pic related.

>> No.18690302

>>18690280
No. You need to back, and actually read Nietzsche while you are at it. God can no longer guarantee your values. You are seeing the fallout of that right now. Your answer is to cargo cult your way back to... 1600? 1400? 1300? 300? Which is it?

>> No.18690324

>>18690302
>Your answer is to cargo cult your way back to... 1600? 1400? 1300? 300? Which is it?
Not him, but I genuinely think this will happen. Not because of Christianity, but because of Islam. I see Islam as becoming the dominant European religion within our lifetimes, and from there it's one crisis away from a fundamentalist takeover.

>> No.18690329

>>18690295
You didn't pay enough attention last year to all the women playing rebel in the various demos and riots. They also get most of the college credentials. The youngest cohorts of women outearn their male peers, well adapted to an information economy. They don't want families either; the family or household, which nearly all marxists and psychoanalysts never understood, is the only bullwark against the complete permeation of society by market forces and interests, since families will destroy capital to reproduce themselves instead of reproducing capital. The ideal capitalist has been bred, and she believes she's a revolutionary.

>> No.18690330

>>18688793
>now
lurk more nigger

>> No.18690333

>>18690324
ok this is enough suicide fuel for the day
goodnight everyone

>> No.18690336

>>18690285
I spoke loosely I apologize. You lifted this from Lasch correct? This is pretty much Revolt of the Elites.

>> No.18690350

>>18690234
>>microplastics in everything, literally killing your masculine hormone
I don't think this is intentional though

>> No.18690358

>>18690324
Inshallah.

>> No.18690359

>>18690350
lol

>> No.18690368

>>18690324
Based Houellebecq reader.

>> No.18690379

>>18690324
It will happen in our lifetime.

>> No.18690385
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18690385

>>18688824
Some Quotes from "The Myth of Male Power"

>When political parties are dependent on keeping woman-as-child, we encourage women to develop the psychology of the entitled child: an eversharper eye for seeing only the discrimination against her, not the discrimination for her. For example, feminists claimed that Social Security was discriminating against women because the average woman receives slightly less per month than the average man.14 They neglected to mention that the average man pays in more per month.

>They also neglected to mention the real discrimination: Men as a group pay twice what women pay nto Social Security15 but women receive more than 150 percent of what men receive in total retirement benefits from Social Security.16 Men as a group also receive less than women in any given year


>Ninety-six percent of the adult homeless in San Francisco are men.24 In other cities it is less—a median of 85 percent men.25
>There are three times as many homeless men living on thestreets by themselves as there are homeless children, adolescents,and adult women combined who are living on the streets by themselves

>Remember when almost all the homeless were men? We called them “bums.” Then some women appeared. We called the women “bag ladies.” When about 15 percent were women, we called them all “homeless” and we suddenly began to care.
>This distinction—between “bums” and “bag ladies”—is only a metaphor for the difference in our attitude toward men who fail versus women who fail.

>> No.18690389

>>18690329
women don't take risks like men do and its likely evolutionarily ingrained. its why prison populations are overwhelmingly male. these corporations spend billions on marketing and demographic research they know exactly what their doing

>> No.18690396

>>18690350
it doesnt matter, something doesnt need to be malevolent to hurt you, and regardless its intentional in the sense that institutions and business understand the health effects but choose to allow it anyways

>> No.18690400

>>18690379
It will be an insane shift in moral and religious norms, and I have no idea how it'll play out in Western Europe. Maybe they'll follow the Russian model, where Putin does praise Islam from time to time.

>> No.18690412

>>18690223
I'm not making any claims about the historical facts but about your moral characterization of them. I have only argues that what you call atrocities are either acceptable because they contributed to the religion offered is more valuable than any number of human lives or that those atrocities were good because they actively helped to contribute to and advance that tradition.
>There's no excuse for any of this, and don't bother with appeals to divine because those are nonsensical and worthless in rational discussion. That's just your personal belief in this context, nothing more. Presenting institutional christianity as the only viable opposition to far-left liberalism is idiotic as well.
There's certainly rational discussions that can be had about the divine and the experiences of those who claim to have felt (I am not one of them, so it doesn't matter much to me.) There's also plenty of rational discussion to be had about discussion be had about the nature of societies where people generally affirm or deny it. Just because your political and social leaders have trained you to believe in the dogma of human rights, in a world where goodness and badness can be measured only in body counts and the level of comfort the living experience, doesn't make it the only way (and certainly not the best) of seeing the world. I never asserted that institutional Christianity is the only alternative to what you call "far-left liberalism, " but it is the one that interests me as a Westerner. But based on your criticism of the church, it's clear that you aren't capable of really conceiving of an alternative to it because your criticisms seem to demonstrate that you hold values which will inevitably lead you to either holding those positions or holding those potions with the added belief that a different group of people should control society's productive resources.

>> No.18690422

>>18690400
What do you think will happen to Central and Eastern Europe (that is not Russia)? Some people speculate that there will be a massive white fligth eastward in the coming decades, certainly after whites drop under a critical percentage of the population.

>> No.18690431

>>18690247
>willingly ignore that Christians were persecuted for centuries
Basically never happened

>When Arrius Antoninus was driving things hard in Asia, the whole Christians of the province, in one united band, presented themselves before his judgment-seat; on which, ordering a few to be led forth to execution, he said to the rest, O miserable men, if you wish to die, you have precipices or halters.
Tertullian, To Scapula, 5


>Epistle of Adrian on behalf of the Christians
as quoted in St. Justin 1st Apology
>I have received the letter addressed to me by your predecessor Serenius Granianus, a most illustrious man; and this communication I am unwilling to pass over in silence, lest innocent persons be disturbed, and occasion be given to the informers for practising villany. Accordingly, if the inhabitants of your province will so far sustain this petition of theirs as to accuse the Christians in some court of law, I do not prohibit them from doing so. But I will not suffer them to make use of mere entreaties and outcries. For it is far more just, if any one desires to make an accusation, that you give judgment upon it. If, therefore, any one makes the accusation, and furnishes proof that the said men do anything contrary to the laws, you shall adjudge punishments in proportion to the offenses. And this, by Hercules, you shall give special heed to, that if any man shall, through mere calumny, bring an accusation against any of these persons, you shall award to him more severe punishments in proportion to his wickedness.

>> No.18690435

>>18690412
>atrocities are either acceptable because they contributed to the religion offered is more valuable than any number of human lives
Unironically stopped reading there

>> No.18690446

>>18690336
I haven't read Lasch (I have some of his books on my shelf), but if he expresses a similar idea, I'm sure he does so in a way that is far more intelligent and coherent than I ever could.

>> No.18690453

>>18690422
I think that all the EU states are sort of in the same boat. I do think Christanity will see a resurgence, but more because of society getting conservative as Muslims become the majority than anything else.

>> No.18690474

>>18690435
Thanks for confirming my assertions about your religious beliefs.

>> No.18690475

>>18690453
The Visegrad countries and most balkan countries have very little in the way of immigration, the most problematic people are the gypsies and they are a billion times easier to deal with than migrants.

>> No.18690484

>>18690475
Frankly, I think the EU will force them to take in massive numbers of immigrants/refugees when the time comes.

>> No.18690500

>>18688818
We are men, and with proper tools and knowledge we can handle anything this sick society throws at us.

>> No.18690510

>>18690474
I'm not religious, and have no interest in discussion with a mentally ill person who claims "attrocities are good" (actual quote from your mess of a post) because you felt god touching you up. A victim of delusions at best, full-blown psychopath at worst. You've made a better case for abolition of religion as political power than my list of horrors commited by the church did.

>> No.18690512

>>18690263
>Again, they believe that about life because of its potential for purpose towards god.
Again, no, it is not.
There was a famous case in my country, a woman had been in Permanent Vegetative State for 17 years, and the ch*rch still opposed ending her """life"""

She wasn't able to swallow her saliva, how exactly was she "serving G*D"?

>> No.18690520

>>18690329
moar.

>> No.18690521

>>18688757
wow that took a sharp turn to the incel land huh

>> No.18690526

>>18690389
A hierarchy doesn't want its bureaucracy to be risk-takers. They would become a new hierarchy if they succeed.

>> No.18690532

>>18690484
I don't know, the fissures between eastern and western europe widened to the point where massive immigration would cause a riot. Most euro countries east of Germany never experienced the sort of prosperity that could numb the population to such a degree where it would not cause a severe pushback. The EU is also only kept going by capitalism and sheer inertia, I can't see them waving their dicks around in a manner where they'd be willing to fuck over both central/eastern europe and by proxy themselves financially.

>> No.18690535

>>18690359
>Phthalates were first introduced in the 1920s and quickly replaced the volatile and odorous camphor. In 1931, the commercial availability of polyvinyl chloride (PVC) and the development of di(2-ethylhexyl) phthalate (DEHP) began the boom of the plasticizer PVC industry.
DNA had not even been discovered at the time

>> No.18690548

>>18690453
Society can get more "conservative" without becoming more Christian. These are relative terms. The conservative perspective in much of Europe is secularism contra multiculturalism, since the multi includes anti-secular cultures. An atavistic perspective would be re-christening.

>> No.18690554

>>18690500
Can't buy the tools if your social credit rating drops too low because a global tech company incorporated in Ireland reported your logs to Brussels.

>> No.18690556

>>18690532
I feel that the EU intends on becoming a "United States of Europe", one country. Something major would have to happen for this plan of theirs to be derailed.

>> No.18690585

>>18690512
>There was a famous case in my country, a woman had been in Permanent Vegetative State for 17 years, and the ch*rch still opposed ending her """life"""
Terry Schaivo? I think it's safe to assume that everyone here is American at this point in the day. They would argue that she still has a soul capable of serving god even if her body cannot. If you do not believe in the separation of soul and body, I could see why it sounds silly. I think it does, but it's what they believe.

>> No.18690598

>>18688801
Except the way to 'git gud' is to become a feminine subservient pushover

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>>18690520
You want more? Eventually they will concatenate into a new church and turn increasingly away from reality. When the nomad war machine arrives in the suburbs of the capital, the church will sue for peace with the real.

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>>18690598
It's just a piece of cloth on your face.
It's just an experimental vaccine.

Why do you have to be a manchild nazi? Grow up.

>> No.18690618

>>18690608
Submission is peak manchildism

>> No.18690627

>>18689773
it's pretty funny desu, i work at a place that for some reason has a good amount of south africans and seeing the look on their faces when they're asked "so why did you move away from south africa?" is priceless

>> No.18690632

>>18690512
>>18690585
Terry Schiavo was a media operation to frame the dialectic around abortion. It was meant to draw Christians into looking like cartoonish ghouls insisting that this total vegetable be kept alive because they knew how the argument would be used against them elsewhere. There's a reason this particular case is so famous.

>> No.18690650

>>18690618
I had the cops called on me for taking a photo of the COVID-19 sign by my house.

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>>18690627
The destruction of South Africa has been memoryholed in Canada so fast because they don't want people here noticing the same things leading up to 2021 South Africa.

>> No.18690662

>>18690659
Uncomfortable reminder that shitlibs exist even in South Africa.

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>>18690556
>I feel that the EU intends on becoming a "United States of Europe", one country. Something major would have to happen for this plan of theirs to be derailed.
Like their Globo-Homo Psy-Op run by the UK getting derailed by Islamists.

WallStreet clowns getting owned by Islamists running Soviet demoralization.

>The CEOs of Bank of America, BP, Johnson & Johnson, Salesforce, and several other Fortune 500 companies are joining the Council for Inclusive Capitalism With the Vatican,
https://fortune.com/2020/12/08/council-for-inclusive-capitalism-with-the-vatican/

>Vatican and Rothschild form ‘Council for Inclusive Capitalism’ composed of numerous international business leaders
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-council-for-inclusive-capitalism-with-the-vatican-a-new-alliance-of-global-business-leaders-launches-today-301187931.html

> Sir Ronald Cohen...
>"Global Steering Group for Impact Investment"
https://medium.com/positive-returns/why-we-invested-global-steering-group-for-impact-investment-91c252511b79

>demonstrate a direct BLM-Hamas connection anon?
>Would you believe /leftypol/ came close?
https://archive.is/6u7pw
The original BLM were three morons affiliated with Black Liberation Army, Communist Party USA, and Palestine Liberation Organization.

> A delegation from #BlackLivesMatter to the PLO was organized by Dream Defenders Legal & Policy Director Ahmad Abuznaid, identified as "our brother", a possible sign of membership in the Muslim Brotherhood.
https://www.keywiki.org/Ahmad_Abuznaid

> Ahmad Abuznaid is the Director of the National Network for Arab American Communities, an institution of the Arab American Community Center for Economic and Social Services (ACCESS).
> He is the son of Palestinian "peace negotiator" Nabil Abuznaid, a "close friend" and advisor to Yasser Arafat of the Palestine Liberation Organization.

>Dream Defenders is part of https://droptheadl.org/signatories/ with CAIR which is Hamas.
https://www.understandingthethreat.com/cair-is-hamas-2/

>The new and improved Black Lives Matter is run by Thousand Currents whose treasurer Fahad Ahmad was the CEO of Soliya.
https://thousandcurrents.org/board-of-directors/ https://archive.is/oqezl

>Soliya and Meedan are projects of Muna AbuSulayman, representative of Prince Alwaleed bin Talal of Saudi Arabia.
https://archive.is/NDVZ9

>Who funded 9/11.
https://news.yahoo.com/moussaoui-20th-hijacker-911-saudi-royal-princes-testimony-143814464.html

>Muna AbuSulayman's father Abdulhamid Abusulayman was part of the SAAR network that was raided during Operation Green Quest because their sponsor was one of the original funders of al-Qaeda listed on the Golden Chain. FBI ordered Customs to let them go, and now they're all employed by the State Department in information warfare operations against the United States.
https://www.wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&p=18450

>> No.18690675

>>18690213
>Then be more low-key about it
Even the Boy Scouts got picked apart by constant negative media campaigns and lawsuits. Just failing to explicitly cater to fags and minorities will exclude you from 90% of government grants. How exactly would a white identarian group be "low key" without getting ripped apart, in your opinion?

>> No.18690679

>>18690662
They have more conviction in their ideals and willingness to die for them than you ever will too.

>> No.18690689

>>18690659
I don't get the endgame. Even if we are looking at just a capitalist view of it, the powers that be would make more money off of people in a place with higher living standards than in a worse-off one. What does this accomplish?

>> No.18690694

>>18690679
wow based, i love liberals now

>> No.18690697

>>18690666
>those digits
All I need to know. Jihad will win.

>> No.18690712

>>18690666
This is an /x/ tier conspiracy

>> No.18690718

>>18690554
Then we must make the tools ourselves

>> No.18690832

>>18690712
>This is an /x/ tier conspiracy

>Edward Djerejian and Vartan Gregorian are board members of Qatar Foundation International, work for Qatar
http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990pf_pdf_archive/205/205714317/205714317_201106_990PF.pdf

>Vartan Gregorian recruited Bill Ayers and Barack Obama
https://www.wnd.com/2010/06/171429/


>Biden Picked CIA Director With a 7-Year-Long Relationship with Chinese Communist Party Fronts
https://thenationalpulse.com/exclusive/biden-cia-director-ccp/

> Bill Burns – Joe Biden’s pick to lead the Central Intelligence Agency – serves as the President of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace which has over a decade-long relationship with the China-United States Exchange Foundation and other Chinese Communist Party-linked groups.

>The Carnegie Endowment also includes former Jordanian official Marwan Muasher
> The Blaze also indicates that Soros' connections to the Muslim Brotherhood can also be traced through his relationship to his new spokesman Marwan Muasher, as well as Mohamed ElBaradei, Muslim Brotherhood leader who sits on the board of Soros¿ ICG.
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/7494-george-soros-allies-with-the-muslim-brotherhood


>Biden’s New Asst Sec of State Worked for Islamic Terror State That Funds Hamas
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/02/bidens-new-asst-sec-state-worked-islamic-terror-daniel-greenfield/
> “I was inspired by the Palestinian intifada,” Hady Amr wrote a year after September 11
> Biden has now chosen Amr as a Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Israel-Palestine.
> Hady Amr had been the founding director of the Brookings Doha Center and had led it between 2006 and 2010
> Qatar not only provided $14.8 million in funding for the Brookings Doha Center
>The same guy is affiliated with al-Qaeda and Common Core.

>During the call, Biden quoted the Prophet Mohammad and said
>The prophet Mohammad, said, whoever among you sees evil, let him change it with his hand. If he is unable to do so, then with his tongue. If he is unable to do so, then with his heart.
>This a call for Jihad in the Muslim faith.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202

>> No.18690963

>>18690832
wtf suddenly I love Joe "Jew-Wrecker" Biden.

>> No.18691358

>>18690689
Money? Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Money belongs to them. Money is just bits of paper. Paper made by them. Getting money is like running on a race track. You can beat the other runners, but you can never beat the person who owns the race track. You running is their objective.

What they need is the power to keep you running.

>> No.18691445

>>18690689
>I don't get the endgame. Even if we are looking at just a capitalist view of it, the powers that be would make more money off of people in a place with higher living standards than in a worse-off one. What does this accomplish?
The elite have lost the plot.
>>18690666
>>18690832

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>>18690832
>Cultural Marxism is Russian propaganda from the Cold War.
>Guess what? It is Russian propaganda today, too. Meet the UN Foundation:
https://990s.foundationcenter.org/990_pdf_archive/582/582368165/582368165_201712_990.pdf

>Igor Ivanov is the President of the Russian International Affairs Council.
https://russiancouncil.ru/en/igor-ivanov/

>Kathy Calvin is a leader of B Team / Avaaz, explained here:
https://archive.is/mB9vx

>So, hey. it's a Russian spy ring interfering in US politics. Is anybody going to arrest them or at least write a report about them?
https://archive.is/mB9vx <-- Read

>The board of the UN Foundation includes Igor Ivanov, president of the Russia International Affairs Council. Another member is one of the organizers of the Avaaz network which is a front for Hamas. They also include Muhammad Yunus who is in a business partnership with Abdul Latif Jameel of the Golden Chain.

>UN = Russian propaganda + Muslim propaganda delivered through big businesses and Western "liberals" who are paid to serve foreign interests.

>It's the Muslim and Russian spy rings organized by the British Foreign Office under the direct leadership of George Soros, Igor Ivanov, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, the Rothschild family, and Muna Abusulayman, operating through the United Nations and its PR agency B Team / Avaaz who all started out as campaign staff for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Antifa is highly organized in a top-down manner

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>>18691448
<-- One of their money networks

https://archive.is/8ahQE Their foot soldiers are literally ISIS

>They're also getting money from Russia
https://archive.is/xDJU1 Russian foreign minister Igor Ivanov linked to UN Foundation, Avaaz, World Jewish Congress
https://archive.is/prCIO The Russian government controls Edelman

>With all PR companies and newspapers comped, word never reaches the upper uppers of what exactly they are funding

>> No.18691572

>>18689183
>>18690215
Then that would mean the nuclear family isn't great.

>> No.18691678

>>18689698
You didn't read what that anon said at all didn't you.

>> No.18691686

>>18690044
You say that about institutional Christianity. But what about the spiritual affect Christianity has on others. Can that be replicated elsewhere?

>> No.18691690

>>18691686
Spiritual effect*

>> No.18691893

>>18689965
based post

>> No.18691903

>>18689028
You have such a retarded view of history.

>> No.18691928

>>18688757
why the fuck would I, a virile male ever prance about drinking overpriced coffee for hours? T

>> No.18691945

>>18691572
the things those other anons listed arent failings of the nuclear family but of people, I wonder anon, what would you replace the nuclear family with?