/lit/ - Literature

Parmenides. but thats kind of cheating since he basically refuted everything

>>18715244
But you are interpreting the Bible wrong, it means that clay is how life started.

>>18715255
t. Christian seething
will change its bs book to fit to whatever new theory that pops up. Accept it.

>>18715262
No, ID is a thing.

>>18715269
KEK Hegelian bs.

>>18715244
Start with Dawkins. We aren’t chimps. We’re just related.

>>18715262
>will change its bs book to fit to whatever new theory that pops up.
Are you retarded? Obviously as we learn more about God's world we should reinterpret all of our older theories and preconceptions to fit that faggot.
You realize Darwin did literally the same thing you're complaining about us doing when he looked like he was getting BTFO by Lord Kelvin?

>>18715317
By the way, I think OP is retarded as well just to clarify. Butters is right, read Darwin's On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life (Penguin has a really good version from the '70s which has a nice introduction and includes Darwins Brief Historical Sketch despite the body text being from the first, purest edition, i.e. before he changed shit).

>>18715317
Of course, it all in the Bible. The heat stroke schizo ramblings of a nomadic shepherding tribe. God revealed it all to them and only them. Everyone else is just wrong.

>>18715244
Check out Phillip Johnson, Darwin on Trial.

Johnson was a law professor at UC Berkeley.

Well-argued, well-written book that critiques the logic of Darwinism (which, it should be noted, establishes very little by way of experimental proof - the gold standard for scientific proof - and certainly none of its larger claims).

>>18715339
>God revealed it all to them and only them.
That's just Jewish nonsense, God revealed the truth to me as well and many people before me from all parts of the world, and he will reveal it to many people after me, and he will reveal it you to if you open your heart.

>>18715244
Why not? Chimps are based. They murder shit and smile and don't give a fuck.

>>18715244
Seems legit.

>>18715247
This. Evolution is fake because change and difference are fake. Becomingfags still haven't recovered.

>>18715339
The vast majority of historical Christians have believed throughout the centuries that God has revealed himself partially through virtuous philosophers and other non-idolatrous religious practitioners-- recently Laozi has been added to that list by some Orthodox, who think that like Plato and Aristotle he was able to see a portion of the Logos (Christ) present in the natural world before the incarnation. Also, the revelation is ongoing: the Holy Spirit lives in the writings of the Holy Fathers of every generation. Is it perfectly expressed? No, because the men who expressed it were imperfect. However, it is still there. The fundamental revelation about salvation was completed with Christ, but the fine details are continuously being given to us by God.

>>18715244
>I can't possibly believe we came from chimps
Humans didn't come from chimps, we are just related to them

>>18715244
Revolt Against The Modern World and Serpent In The Sky

>>18715244
The Bible.

>>18715244
Decline of the West

>>18715629
>>18715301
I'm against the idea that we aren't special in general

>>18715721
We’re pretty badass special for evolving this far. But now that we’re flirting with extinction, just how much more special can we get?

>>18715244
why chimps specifically? Evolution claims we all come from single cell life if you go back far enough in time but its the chimps that bother you?

>>18715721
so you just want to cope? would you really be willfully deluding yourself

>>18715721
how is intelligent life not special. The likelihood that there is anything else like us in the entire galaxy is low. Statistically the closest planet to ours that houses intelligent life is multiple galaxies away

>>18717285
How the fuck you have statistics about this, you have a sample size of 1

>>18715244
There's nothing to refute. There is no proof that we came from chimps. That's all you need to admit. By the exact same reasoning evolutionists use, you can claim God exists if they're allowed to claim we came from chimps. It's inductive and "probabilistic" reasoning based essentially on subjectivity.

>>18715244
Why not? That dont sound so bad.

>>18715613
I'm shocked how many brainlets here don't seem to understand this

>>18715613
>>18717546
>um actually we have a common ancestor
>also it’s climate change not global warming
>the proof? it’s called peer review

>>18717552
>um actually we have a common ancestor
Yes? Are you suggesting that's not the case?
>also it’s climate change not global warming
Not sure what you're getting at here
>>the proof? it’s called peer review
You don't need botched peer review studies to infer data from DNA

>>18715317
>Obviously as we learn more about God's world we should reinterpret all of our older theories and preconceptions to fit that faggot.
> that faggot
Hmm.

>>18717552
>my 2000 year old fairytale book says a mighty being created us all

>>18715339
>Of course, it all in the Bible.
I'll give Job and Ecclesiastes their due, but the utter tediousness of the Bible and its almost total disconnect from life in the 21st century argue for limits on the power of this supposedly omnipotent Christian god.

>>18715360
>Johnson was a law professor at UC Berkeley.
Oh, that's a selling point.

>>18717628
Uhhh...it should be
> to fit that, faggot.
Clearly, I just forgot the apostrophe but my meaning is so obvious that pointing out that error is somewhat superfluous even if correcting it is the proper thing to do.
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>>18715613
All living creatures are just build bottom-up. Our cells are smart enough to organize themselves into "higher" organisms without any central planner.
It's anarchy unleashed, kneel.

>>18717681
>Our cells are smart enough to organize themselves into "higher" organisms without any central planner.
are they?it's more them being controlled by genes which just wishes to replicate and update itself by building higher order structures.