/lit/ - Literature

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>>18772308
It did have a nice cover aesthetic at least. How do I replicate that digitally?

Issue 08 is in-progress. I'm taking over editing (and for later issues), but still getting a hang on the process and all the submissions.

>>18772308
Qrd? newfag here but /fit/ oldfag as well

Yeah it's pretty sad. It was really fun

>>18772465
its called glitching
just photoshop effects
layer blending modes and such
popular with archies who have to compinaste with graphics

Nu-Captcha killed the Crocodile

>>18772543
Ok I got scared since u saw no July issue I've bought them all

they jerked themselves hard in every thread and were truly execrable when anything critical was brought up. probably because it's easier to do marketing than it is to write good content. good riddance, lel.

>>18772308
It was actually pretty good. We NEED a physical, real magazine like this. The internet, and especially 4chan, is too ephemeral.

>>18772730
I wish I knew so I could make my own e-zines

>>18772543
did you get my submissions from the old editor or should i send them again?

>>18772308
Where do I sign up?

>>18772587
>Qrd
That guy gave up. he was spending too much money and the sales were not big enough to justify the cash payout.

>>18772780
>I wish I knew so I could make my own e-zines
You could but you wont.

>>18772906
I'm pretty sure I should have all the submissions.

>>18772931
I would do it for my own practice.

>>18772928
So why did you take over?

didn't this guy start taking submissions from outside of 4chan? sort of defeats the purpose.

>>18772913
cars are so stupid its unreal

>>18772308
>funded by pyongyang technical writing council

First time I've ever looked a thread about this thing. What is it, other than ridiculously named?

>>18772308
still published more than any one on this board

>>18772978
>>18772928
those are /lit/ quarterly

This was pretty based. Lots of shockingly bad quality work, but it was genuinely about as fun to skim through as an actual magazine, and with the odd good piece to unearth

>>18773025
>First time I've ever looked a thread about this thing. What is it, other than ridiculously named?
See for yourself.

https://lampbylit.com/magazine/

Should I keep writing for &amp or no? Dropped a submission in the first issue that was decently recieved but then everything went to absolute shit for a little while.
Did it turn into schizolology and memes like I was afraid of? Did the guy who wrote the story about beating his kids that was fucking funny keep submitting?

>>18773195
Stop spoonfeeding newfags

>>18773207
keep writing. worst case scenerio, someone else'll publish them on /lit/. worst worst case scenerio, i will.

the schizolalalia and memes are fine and far from the worst. everything peaked at 5. that guy, if youre thinking of that one, wrote more, but none are as good as that imo

>>18772543
wut happened to the original editor?

>>18772986
enjoy your busride poorfag

He should have made it to monthly to avoid burnout

>>18773904
It was monthly.

>>18774147
I sorry ment bi monthly

>>18774160
That's twice a month.

>>18774224
Or every 2 months it can mean either

>>18774239
No. Semi-monthly would be every half a month, or twice a month. Bi-monthly means every two months.

>>18774256
Oxford would like a word with you

>>18774288
>I believe whatever google and other information authorities tell me
>Retards using words wrong is the epitome of a "living language"
Just kill yourself already you fucking slave. We have perfectly functioning prefixes to mean "two" and "half" that have functioned for thousands of years.

>>18774337
recive paycheck every other week it is know as bi-weekly pay not semi weekly in every job that does it that way

And being a language purist autist claiming language won't change over thousands of years just shows how our of touch you are with reality. Every single language autist even since Rome has lost his battle at preserving the proper form of his language. Why don't you open Canterbury Tails and take a proper read of English if you feel so inclined and keep asking yourself what went so wrong

>>18772308
>my low effort shitpost are in the first issue and would be remembered forever

>>18774447
I saved every one and plant on preserving them, either that or working down in antarctica and bringing them and leaving them in the mc murdo library

>>18773209
>Stop spoonfeeding newfags
Not new, I just never looked at the threads.
>can't conceive of that
Well, that's because of all the estrogen coursing through your system.

>>18772308
What am I looking at.

>>18772986
This
>>18773866
Enjoy compensating for your small dick, fag

>>18774546
Read the thread

>>18772308
internet shitposting forum, tries to go back to phsyical printing.
>why?

>>18774699
Its like getting a letter in 2021.
It just feels COMFY

>>18774421
>recive paycheck every other week it is know as bi-weekly pay not semi weekly in every job that does it that way
Yes, every other week would be bi-weekly, just like every other month would be bi-monthly. Bi-weekly does not mean twice a week; bi-monthly does not mean twice a month. Semi-monthly means twice a month, semi-weekly means twice a week.

>>18774908
Oh dear I feel like I miss read your first post I thought you were the sake guy saying bimonthly would be twice a month

>>18774699
I would buy it by the aesthetics alone, and to support the creators for the idea.

>only lasted 5 editions
OH NO NO NO

>>18775786
>quarterly
Lasted over a year unlike this

>>18775786
>>18775798
God I wish I‘d bought those in print. I was kinda short for money when that was a thing.
It’s cool tho that lamp has that print on demand thing, and that at least mag cloud also/does their printing in europe.

>>18772308
> /p/ edition
when did that happen?

>>18775917
Email litquarterly@gmail.com. I'll ship you whatever, just pay the shipping from Canada.
Lamp made great editions...high quality and good stuff printed in them. Really impressed with how quickly they were produced.

>>18774610
I did. What am I looking at.

>>18775927
Jan or Feb this year

>>18775948
Sorry, if you can read this whole thread and still not understand you’re honestly just too stupid to be involved in the conversation

These are great, better than anything reddit could make. Why is that?

those cover arts feel really dated

>>18772308
Now if only there was a way we could financially incentivize production, and still retain the anonymous character of the publication.

>>18774593
>compensating for your small dick
what is someone with this insult arsenal doing on /lit/

>>18772308
who wrote the archangel pilot simultion greentext?
and what's the proper channel for print sub?

>>18775964
Understandable have a good day.

>>18776410
well i guess "anonymous" is the only good answer to that first question, but i mean has he written anything else?

>>18776213
same thing as you, probably: posturing as well-read for a bunch of smoothbrained incels

>>18774501
Hot

>>18773195
why isn't the 3rd issue listed? is that the /p/ one?

>>18774421
>Why don't you open Canterbury Tails and take a proper read of English
The difference between me and you is that I can actually do this and you have to imagine being able to do it to come up with an insult.
Hang yourself

>>18775786
Editor there *very* quickly abandoned even a half-hearted relationship with /lit/ and really just used the board to troll for submissions to get the first few issues off the ground. Once that happened he dropped /lit/ like a hot potato.

>>18776960
I had to read them back in high-school now go stick your nose on a wagon wheel and let me share a fart equally with everyone here and you

>>18776739
cool

>>18776109
>better than anything reddit could make
Every single one of those shitty reddit subs for amateur writing with glorified creepypastas are a thousand times more legitimate than these /lit/ projects, because at least they reflect redditors' actual interests and sensibilities. The magazines on the other hand don't even feel like they came out of 4chan, it just looks like the work of someone trying to be accepted into a completley different cultural milieu and using /lit/ to kickstart it.

>>18774699
to have something that will outlast the internet

>>18777079
What does 4chan look like?

>>18777100
You're looking at it right now.

>>18777100
Accurately capturing the feeling and sensibilities rather than trying to describe something this nebulous literally would be the job of the creators/editors of these projects

>>18776497
i dont know what else but that opus was by the og editor anon himself.

>>18777100
&amp

>>18772543
will you be making threads and do i send submissions to the same email?

>>18778404
Yes and yes.

>>18776983
Every single edition has /lit/ contributors in it. When I got flooded with submissions during the third and fourth editions, obviously the proportions changed. Also, some people on /lit/ are flaky as hell, like me.

>>18777079
That's honestly a really interesting point, the whole deleuze/guattari/schizo/nickland/accelerationism/etc stuff feels like one big cargo cult that barely connects to old imageboard culture. Serial experiments lain is aesthetically linked but that is a pretty tenuous connection culturally and I am curious about why marxist french philosophers are being dicksucked so hard in so called online fringe spaces.

>>18772996
hearty kek while also realizing that your filename is from 2009 and i've been here too long

>>18777098
yet look how it ended LOL
Plus, internet will outlast ANY print magazine.

>>18775786
Maybe not even 5 editions. I enjoyed it while it lasted.

>>18779105
There was a fifth that came out around March this year, but nothing since.

>>18773593
nerve gas

>>18778497
Whens the new one?

>>18772308
This crap is horrendous. What's with the whole Tumblr artsy experience.
However a functioning magazine Is the last thing I'd expect coming from here so it makes sense that these magazines feel nothing like this place.

>>18772308
not too surprising, its a lot of work and it was inevitable that interest among anons would wane, making it feel even less worthwhile. every six months or annually probably seems more reasonable. but the quality is pretty dam great, rather it fizzle out than just turn to pure shit from laziness

>>18779350
I don't really have a sense of time needed yet, plus I'm still in the learning curve.

>>18772308
I was published in three out of seven, good enough for me i guess.

>>18776410
Thine is the kingdom, I wrote it. I published it in the mag like three times or something because I’m a narcissist.
>>18776948
It’s listed in the Issues section.
>>18777079
Return.
>>18779599
Checked. Praise be to you, 3ditor. Also, please be sure to include a full page ad for the Moby Dick project, big ups.

I’m the founder and original editor of &amp and I have some explaining to do so here it is:
I went to rehab this summer, and 4chan was unavailable to me during this time. I still managed to produce 007 on email submissions alone, but I had made promises that I would complete 008 on time, and when that didn’t happen I promised that I would complete a /p/ issue on time instead, and when that didn’t happen I had to put the project on the backburner. 3ditor came along and offered and the rest is history. I gave him control of the unfinished Issue 008 WIP. Ive actually finally left rehab, and am on my own again, and am actually in a great position to helm the magazine, but I’m even more excited to pass the torch and hopefully rejuvenate the project with new blood. Also I look forward to simply contributing my writing. I’ll gatekeep the website and host all of the new issues. Also, 3D, I can actually put together the /p/ issue (so can any anon using Canva.com™) if you like too, I’m at your service. Special thanks to Anonymous.

bump

>>18779599
>>18780025
have you guys considered making it quarterly? not only would it greatly ease the workload, presumably it would also increase the overall quality.

Which ones the best edition/your favorite? Any kind of consensus among the anons who've read them all?

>>18780025
welcome back editor. was the range ban a psyop for you being an absolute madman? will you write about your experience inside or is an interview required? will 007 be on lulu? thoughts on the new captcha?

>>18780154
005 and its not even close

>>18776983
Not true, I shitpost here every day and got a piece accepted for the final issue

>>18772308
>&amp
Should be
>&
Fucking bafoons.

>>18780025
>I published it in the mag like three times or something because I’m a narcissist.
no it was cool seeing "to be continued" and then to see the thing in its full morning glory. reminds me of the good days of lit, except i somehow missed all of it because i didnt think lit could produce something half this good

>>18776983
>>18780457
I was in the latest issue as well (not for sale, it seems).

>>18778566
>Serial experiments lain is aesthetically linked but that is a pretty tenuous connection culturally
dunno anon i finally just started looking thru &amp yesterday and i got the random urge to listen to boa's duvet (never having seen Lain, or even knowing the two were connected) and from there started listening to the Lain soundtrack on repeat while reading all of the issues, only reading your post today. what a coincidence! if the link were directly a matter of lain vs land, that's tenuous, but the link is mediated by lit oldfags and cosmotech survivors, and an oldschool animu with an ambiet electronic soundtrack like lain is peak that culturally, the mark is hit so closely

not to mention, tho i haven't seen it, i do know
>Lain features surreal and avant-garde imagery, and explores philosophical subjects such as reality, identity and communication.[3] The series shows creative influence from computer history, cyberpunk literature and conspiracy theory.

>>18776102
Brutal

>>18780151
This is a good idea. I will have a discussion with 3D about this. It’s his call until he quits, but it could save him some grief.
>>18780382
I’d rather have had no internet than half internet because I could totally tell what I was missing. I started writing about it but realized it would take me like 6k words to start from the beginning. An interview would be rad but I doubt I’m interesting enough to be asked. I would like to see all of the issues on Lulu, that is something I will actually have to get up and accomplish now that Prussia has left for a bit. Born to post, new captcha is a fuck, ban then all, I’m anon man, 42069 dead jannies.
>>18780692
Good writers don’t use semicolons.
>>18780727
Thanks anon. I wrote that while high on weed (don’t v& me)
>>18780154
I’d say 006 was my favorite. Prussia was a better editor than I was, and his absence has created an editor-shaped-hole here in the inbox.

>>18781284
>Thanks anon. I wrote that while high on weed (don’t v& me)
prying, prying, but is that what you went to rehab for?

Where i can find issue number 2 pdf?

>>18772766
exactly. the easier it is to breeze through posts and writing samples without any emotional or actual investment, the less we will value writing in general.
>>18781060
The fifth edition? It's for sale, but by inquiry, not on amazon. We left amazon after the third edition because it wouldn't let me add the next edition as a separate product.

>>18781455
Why don't you sell it somewhere else?
Even the shittiest self-help websites allow you to sell PDFs directly to people
Or maybe switch to Kobo, Rakuten or some such instead of giving Bezos more money

>>18781334
Crack cocaine and fentanyl.
>>18781415
https://lampbylit.com/magazine/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/amp_002.pdf

I just want to put out that I heavily disagree with anons saying the publication should be made quarterly or semi-annual. What made &amp fun to read was that it caught posters in the moment and each issue had a more or less organic theme to it as people read the previous issue, reacted to it, and wrote in response to it. A longer stint between publications would make editing each issue easier, but it would also detach each issue from the immediate and semi-collaborative nature of the writing itself and probably boil the pool of contributers down to only the most consistent and most well-recieved.
I also understand that the cost and man-hours put into the first run of print copies might have been overkill, but we were really spoiled by the original editor/publisher anon anyways and I'd rather the spirit of the publication survive than be overhauled in defense of the budget.

>>18781648
What does setting up a kiosk on those platforms entail? I would charge $5 for the PDF and $15 plus shipping for hard copies.

>>18781858
yeah but being a monthly release might be what kills it. too much work, too little time. that's probably a major reason why all the lit magazines die so quickly

>>18782203
Then the overwork and overdesigning of the print issues is what needs to be reconsidered rather than the publication schedule.

>>18782288
>overdesign
nonsense. it's just the right amount.

what happened to the moby dick commentary?

>>18782719
It came out recently: >>/lit/thread/S18696709

>>18782664
It can't be the right amount if the workload isn't manageable. Don't get me wrong, I love the way the print issues look, I'm saying that the luxury may not be sustainable and shouldn't be considered more important than the concept.

>>18781858
Noted. Like I said I’m actually back in the game again so in theory we have as much manpower than we did at our strongest. Personally, I’d like to see an arrangement where perhaps 3ditor took care of even or odd issues and I’d take the alternative. That would foster diversity and provide a sort of insurance on productivity.
>>18781922
Checked. Roughly $18 seems to be the basement cost at which we’re able to print the magazine. MagCloud is a little more, maybe because it’s easier to upload PDFs.
>>18782288
Checked. Designing something boring and designing something interesting take about the same amount of time. The latest amount of time went to actually filling the pages left empty by a lack of submissions, either with writing of my own or otherwise.
>>18782719
Obligatory humblebrag that the anon behind the Moby Dick project, who actually revealed himself to be a significant contributor to &amp at the last minute, asked me to write the afterword for that project. Anon if you’re reading, I’m waiting until payday! I look forward to reading it all by the firelight of my new dwelling.

>>18783472
Most* not latest. I’m phonefagging and distracted driving.

>>18772735
lolllll

>>18783518
Not to worry, Gardner’s botnet should be back up after the patch.

bump

>>18783472
Maybe you should make this one while 3d learns his way around

>>18772308
Found out about this the other day. Read a single story about the sun burning out or something, it was pretty bad

does 8 have enough submissions. how close to done is it.

>>18783472
>Like I said I’m actually back in the game again so in theory we have as much manpower than we did at our strongest. Personally, I’d like to see an arrangement where perhaps 3ditor took care of even or odd issues and I’d take the alternative. That would foster diversity and provide a sort of insurance on productivity.
Sounds good. I just sent you an email. Maybe finish 008 (for everyone else's reference: it's more than half done) since you have most of the design going already. If that comes out this month, I can try to get 009 for September, and we'll be back on track. The gap isn't even that weird, really. New Criterion, for instance, takes July and August off.

>>18785392
Okay done deal. Thanks again my dude. >>18785037
Yes that story likely filtered some other anons too.

>>18772543
>>18780025
>we’re putting together a team.jpg
I’m so glad things are moving on this

>>18783310
or, you know, it's the schedule that needs changing. really just a matter of perspective. I don't think a monthly release is that necessary - I'd rather it stays alive and doesn't compromise on quality. my argument is quality over quantity. your argument seems to be the opposite

>>18772913
gigachad king post

>>18772986
gigafaggot

What's the email for submissions?

>>18786818
separate from that anon i think the editors are the ones making the sacrifice so they can do whatever they want. i can see why someone wouldn't want to put all that effort into producing a magazine that they aren't as proud as they could be about

BUT,
>your argument seems to be the opposite
it's the opposite in a sense (again i'm not that anon), like the quality would be worse but that's because the magazine wouldn't be a handful of the most well-received anons every time, and it would be capturing the moment of the board, more "organic", strangers passing thru a strange land, call and response, diamonds in the rough, whatever. i'd vote for this if "whatever the editors want" wasn't an option

>>18786848
>find similarly braindead car lover
>naturally, want to fuck his anus and vice versa
>both of our dicks are too tiny
Being a carfag must truly be suffering :(

>>18786857
lamp.lit.magazine@gmail
Or
admin@lampbylit.com

>>18786818
>my argument is quality over quantity. your argument seems to be the opposite
My argument is that changing the schedule of release immediately impacts how the audience interacts with the publication, and that a longer period between issues lowers the level of audience interaction with the work and centralizes the content in a way that runs counter to the qualities inherent in /lit/ as a 4chan board.

The magazine gets really challenging to produce when the editor has to find a way to fill its pages due to low submissions. Please contribute your writing, even if it’s one-off, practice, or objectively terrible.

>>18787820
Another suggestion was to reduce the magazine from 96 pages to anything else.

>>18787862
Gotcha. I have a thing that I can't remember if I sent last month or didn't, so I'll make a burner tomorrow and send that plus some filth

>>18787582
yeah, of course they can do whatever they want, I'm just giving the editors some advice to consider, taking into account their recent struggles

>>18787820
okay, I see your point. I'm not sure to what extent that really matters though, or to what degree it would have the effect you're talking about. if it was this more carefully crafted thing, maybe tailored to each season specifically in more or less significant ways, I don't think it would necessarily lose that much of the "organic" element. I don't know.
but it doesn't even have to be quarterly, how about every two months? that's twice the amount of time, that would already significantly ease the workload. consider that, editors. it might be the sweet spot, if you take into consideration the issues the anon I'm responding to has raised

and see, with longer timeframe this >>18787862 also presumably would cease to be a problem

>>18787877
I'm sure you realize that 69 would be the only acceptable alternative for such a distinguished publication

>download issue 1, 9 mb
>download issue 3, 13 mb
>download issue 4, over 100 mb
what the fuck is this, does it make mustard gas

>>18788166
>yeah, of course they can do whatever they want, I'm just giving the editors some advice to consider, taking into account their recent struggles
anon i understand all of this, i was establishing that i wasn't you (before parroting your opinions)

>>18786848
wat do u guys think about motorcycles? homosexual? cringe? ive slipped by a quarter of a century without a car license and now its just way easier to get a motorcycle

>>18788045
Thx
>>18788184
It has to be divisible by four but you’re not wrong
>>18788306
There should be the original file and the compressed file available for them all. I’ll fix that.

>>18783050
>cheapest it can be
>+Tax
>+Shipping
> Total $19.84
coincidence?

bump

Is my hotel drunk posting still in the running?

>>18773209
if the magazine isn't advertised at least a little bit, nobody will buy it and it will die for real

>>18790740
Someone should buy some desktop ads.
There pretty cheep here.

bumperino

>>18783050
This shit turned out great, well done.
I think it's at least on par with Tundra

>>18791259
If you let gardener post a story in it he will buy ads PJPYK

>>18792964
Oops I wrote the new captcha in my post N24V4

Can I submit something somewhere?

>>18793008
>>18787803

check email i sendd :)

>>18792964
Who the fuck is this Gardner character that keeps popping up? Some internet pseudo-celebrity?

>>18793203
some autist who wrote a bunch of (really bad) books and has shilled them heavily on /lit/, through paid ads and otherwise, and has become a meme as a result. though honestly I'm not at all sure how much of the shilling was him, and how much of it was shitposters jumping on the meme train

>>18793218
He tried to do an ama one time and the thread got shit up with others putting their name as F. Gardner and adding a trip to it. It was pretty funny desu

>>18793218
>>18793242
Kek
I'll hunt him down in the archives then, sounds like a good old first class autist

>>18793110
And is there a theme or something?

How do you pronounce the name?

>>18793363
"aend-aemp"

>>18793309
this board is the theme which allows a lot of flexibility but if you’re a newfag you would have to actually read the magazine to understand

>>18793363
It’s pronounced, “LampAndAmp”
>>18790740
I’ll turn mobile headers ads on today.
>>18790718
Totally. 008 will drop this weekend, your shit is in the window display feature spot.

>>18793483
please post images ITT that i can use for &amp ads. 300 x 250 px

>>18793483
Yoooo, this is great news
Is second chapter of eggplant still getting printed. It’s cool if not, but it’s even cooler if it is :)

>>18794209
Tater totes. It’s already installed, workin on 008 now; will drop this weekend

>>18793203
The guy who wrote Call of the Crocodile. It has the most out of left field twist you'll probably ever read in anything.

>>18794671
Call of the Arcade is equally as bizarre. They're dead serious edgelord books but come accross as something like The Room. I'd be interested in reading more /lit/ self published kino if they're as entertaining as this. Are the Mike Ma books just as strange?

>>18794685
I'm not sure if Mike Ma is technically "from /lit/" like Call of the Crocodile. Harassment Archetecture and Gothic Violence are different kinds of books. More politically driven. Whereas F. Gardner's work is occultish schizo pulp. Mike Ma is more /pol/ and F Gardner is more /x/.

My arts on page 29 of issue 04
What do you guys think?

>>18772717
>final word on tomboys
This is important, link?

>>18794893
It's shit

>>18794685
I read Jigoku and it's much better than CotC. Gardener has improved alot. That book didn't have any of the old issues. Did he finally hire an editor?

>>18795147
IDK but it makes some sense. Later works are usually superior.

>>18794893
Very cool! Collage is a neat medium.

>>18794893
I don't understand abstract art that doesn't have a fixed intent.

>>18772913
Whens shitkickers coming out Jason? You should post it here when it's ready.

>>18795147
Jigoku is really fucking weird. It’s basically the creepypasta of Ash from Pokemon being in a coma except hellraiser level gore. The idea of turning this premise into a novel was either a stroke of genius or Chris-Chan tier autism on gardener’s part.

>>18795147
It’s fine. If you shit out so many books your bound to accidentally write a good one. This happens with even the worst writers. Jigoku is the exception with F. Gardner although I haven’t read the rest of his books. This is probably because he just happened to base the premise on a really good idea. I’m not sure anyone else has done the “Pokémon but horror” idea as a full novel. Possibly just an irregularity.

which &amp is most worth reading?

>>18795295
004

you told me you would put one of my works in 08. is that still happening?

>>18795932
im sorry anonymous poster you didnt make the cut, nobody made the cut, you're not tall enough and you make everybody uncomfortable, frankly you look like you post on 4chan

>>18795932
>>18795067

>>18795295
5 its 5!!!

>>18772913
What am I missing here?

Very cute

>>18794893
I don't get the whole piece, but I like the feeling of the tape spiral, especially in the center. Sort of blocky

>>18798205
Nobody knows who /p/‘s gf is?

so whats the deal is 008 out yet?

>>18801110
does it look like it?
dingus

>>18801646
I'm excited, okay?!

It's because he didn't include my poem after he said he would. I'm glad it died.