/lit/ - Literature

>>18784704
>no prostitute but used to fuck a slut who took like 100 cocks
>no gay sex but french kissed a faggot while drunk
>no backpacking but travelled the country a lot, doing wild stuff and got arrested in three different towns
>went through several periods of heavy alcohol abuse (including severe withdrawals), did meth somewhat regulary, tried other drugs too
Do I pass?

That was back when prostitutes were professionals though, not uppity sugar babies trying to sell pictures of their flabby asses. There is no modern equivalent to a good middle class brothel anymore. You either have to marry Chad's used up roasties once they hit 26 and start panicking about the long term, or you have to play the game of trying to be Chad and sleep with as many passaround girls as possible, but the latter is humiliating even if you're a sub-Chad, and still depressing even if you make it to Chad.

Only true natural born unconscious animal-brain Chads thrive in this hellish environment, because they can both bowl over the average slutty "experience-haver" college girl's defenses and simply demand sex from her on the first meeting, string her along for a while and dump her for the next guy to pick up, and their own innate normie optimistic-hedonistic retardation field enables them to sit through the minimum of Tinder woman blabber to get to the sex without feeling tortured and humiliated by it.

For any normal man, even if he succeeds in being handsome or powerful enough to achieve the first goal and be able to fuck Tinder girls with minimum hoop-jumping and obstacle course running on the first date, even so, the sitting through of Tinder whore blathering is still intensely humiliating. The only appropriate response for an intelligent healthy man listening to an emcel Tinder fun-haver's self-indulgent blubbering about herself, even for five minutes, is to start shouting that she had better shut the fuck up. Anything short of that, you are in effect conceding that she has worthwhile things to say, and that you are the sort of person who enjoys listening to these things she's saying. That is extremely, indelibly embarrassing even if you pump and dump her shortly after. You still acquiesced to that. You still let her inane babbling into your ears.

Only true savannah gorilla Chads with no minds, mindless animal fuck machines and effeminate 6'4" trust fund kids with gelled hair, can do it because their lack of consciousness absolves them of the charge of having allowed the deranged gibbering of a failed woman and future single mother into their consciousness.

>>18784742
why you mad for lol

>>18784742
Kek, what a seething load of incel copes.

>>18784704
>Fucked a prostitute
Check
>Fucked a male prostitute
Check
>Traveled through a country as a backpacker/hobo
Check (sort of)
>Used/Been addicted to hard drugs (alcohol counts but heroin is preferable)
Check
You left out requirement
>You actually write

>>18784767
A true writer doesn't need to write.

>>18784723
no faggot

>>18784814
So it was all... for nothing?

>>18784704
Nonsense I’ve done all those things except the gay one, and can’t write at all.

>>18784704
I used to do a lot of drugs, but I hate traveling, I wouldn't even bother backpacking unless I got paid for it. Had sex with both a woman and a man, but they weren't prostitutes.

>>18784723
better than most here

>>18784865
You know what you have to do

>>18784900
Wish I had more degenerate hedonistic experience desu, but at 30 it's too late to chase the youthful highs so I'll work on my writing.

>>18784742
Is this coming from experience?

>>18784704
I've done one of those things and am currently doing one. Work in progress.

>>18784925
It's not worth it.

>>18784723
Do you write?

>>18784937
>phone posting while barebacking a twink
Impressive desu

>>18784941
Used to write for uni mag and one of the major cultural websites in my country, currently NEETing and practicing ficton writing. My first attempt at horror story made it to the finals of genre fiction competitions (top 7) but three progressive sci-fi stories took the prizes kek

>>18784742
Your first paragraph is why I wrote my 1st book:
>trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFykUltGh_k
>book
https://www.amazon.ca/City-Singles-Jason-Bryan/dp/0991825705

Being old, I can tell you for a fact that before the smartphone, life was A LOT more serendipitous. This would, naturally, allow people to have their guards down a bit more, and dancing with random women, using pick-up lines, winking from across a room, and asking for a phone number weren't weird. Like holy shit, even a fatty dweeb with acne like me was able to go to a stardust rollerskating rink and get like 1-2 phone numbers per night. Rarely you might get a wrong number, or maybe the ink on your hand you wrote the number on rubbed off. Flirtation was more open and friendlier. Like I said, people were easy going so if you got shot down, it wasn't really a big humiliation or anything. You would have women that would mingle with a group of friends, "date" each one of them a couple times, break up, and date another. All while the guys are getting a couple kisses maybe and being allowed to squeeze her boobs through her shirt. Like seriously though, those relationships were extremely formative for those young men who never even saw porn before that.

You take how people are raised today and plunge them into a nightmare timeline, don't be shocked that neither incel nor chad are fulfilled.

>>18784959
>phone posting
how did you come to that conclusion?

>>18784964
Do you remember what the other stories were about? At one Writer's Fest, I remember the top prize winner had a novel either out or coming out about a Mexican refugee girl who learns how to fly, or something. Who knows, it might have been good, but it was a giant woke performative that helped push my mental health into the gutter. Like witnessing parody, but sadly, real life!

>>18784973
>Who knows, it might have been good
Same with those three, don't remember the plots exactly, all seemed to be written with decent skill and flair but clearly took the podium because genre fiction is all about lefty politics nowadays.

>>18784966
Thought we might have finally scared you off

>>18785024
Damn some of the threads lately have been brrruuuuttaaalll!

>>18784704
>>Fucked a prostitute
Got a handy at a massage parlor a few times
>>Fucked a male prostitute
Got my dick grabbed by my drunk gay ex-friend a few times
>>Traveled through a country as a backpacker/hobo
I’m a sailor who travels internationally, that’s better
>>Used/Been addicted to hard drugs (alcohol counts but heroin is preferable)
Alcohol and porn

>>18784704
>excluding non-binary and trans people
This is 2021, anon. NGMI.

I can't think of a single good author who was an unashamed degenerate. They tend to be boring hacks like Burroughs and Sade.

>>18784915
Oh shit

>>18784742
>Tinder is real life

>>18784742
>That was back when prostitutes were professionals (blah blah blah)
This is why you need to go outside. The majority of women are not on Tinder or Onlyfans.
I live downtown in a thriving city and could point you to a dozen prostitutes and a dozen pro escorts and another dozen amateur escorts and two dozen massage parlours all within walking distance in one afternoon.
The world is much larger and more fascinating than this guy's screen-infused, myopic perspective that divides the world into chads and incels (and sub-chads even lolz)
If you want to write, go live a life, get a job doing anything for a year, quit and go get another one. Talk to humans without a keyboard. Interact, listen, fuck around, get wasted. Rinse and repeat.

>>18785533>
Forgot this part:
Fucked a prostitute - about 40, including a couple brothels, and a few strippers. I dated three of them, friends with two
>Fucked a male prostitute - no but fucked around with a male friend for a few months
>Traveled through a country as a backpacker/hobo - Canada, USA and France
>Used/Been addicted to hard drugs - alcohol, sure. but you can't get addicted to acid. I tried.
I'm not a "great writer," but I have won a couple awards, been nominated for several others. So, yeah.

>>18784704
I’ve done two

>>18784704
>fucked a prostitute
no
>male prostitute
no
>traveled through country as backpacker/hobo/trainhopper
yes
>addicted to hard alcohol
yes
>actually write
yes, with pen and paper since my laptop shit the bed and I hate technology
I'm almost there. Probably gonna go to Vancouver and seal the deal in the next couple months. Then I can finally be a writer.

>>18785533
This

>>18784807
No, that's the pseud take.

>>18784704
>>Fucked a prostitute

Legitimately applies to most of human male history. Not sure where to distinguish between actual whores and the modern hyper slut. Possibly no longer necessary to use the former.

>>Fucked a male prostitute

You will never normalize your own degeneration.

>>Traveled through a country as a backpacker/hobo

Excellent insight into anything and everything.

>>Used/Been addicted to hard drugs (alcohol counts but heroin is preferable)

Physical addiction is a good barrier to be able to overcome. Don't think alcohol is a hard drug, or that the stuff that really fucks your head open has any positive long term effects.

>>18784704
Let's compile the definitive list of /lit/ life experiences. Then people know what they have to experience to become a great author. I'll get it started:

——— LIST OF THINGS WRITERS HAVE DONE ———

* Fatally shoot your wife in the head attempting a party trick.
BURROUGHS

* Grow up in poverty after your house burns down. Educate yourself by visiting the public library. In your early teens, borrow money from your mother, buy a boat and become an oyster pirate.
LONDON

* Write a poem while sitting in a bar, using your own excrement as ink.
RIMBAUD

* Masturbate so much your father gives you money to visit a prostitute. Visit brothel. Knock over an ornament. Get flustered. Leave unsatisfied.
PROUST

* Get shot in the eye with a bow and arrow by your brother as a child. Go almost completely blind as a result.
THURBER

* Attend Eton. Read 16 hours/day. Get bullied to the point of madness for being a bookworm.
SHELLEY

* Visit a prostitute. Read your poems to her. Pay her extra to express admiration. ("O mon Dieu, your meter is so strong and vigorous, monsieur!")
I MADE THIS ONE UP

>>18786357
But the marriage rapidly disintegrated as he drifted in and out of several jobs. During this traumatic period, Wilson was continually working and reworking the novel that was eventually published as Ritual in the Dark (1960).[7] He also met three young writers who became close friends – Bill Hopkins, Stuart Holroyd and Laura Del Rivo.[8] Another trip to Europe followed, and he spent some time in Paris attempting to sell magazine subscriptions. Returning to Leicester again, he met Joy Stewart – later to become his second wife and mother of their three children – who accompanied him to London. There he continued to work on Ritual in the Dark, receiving some advice from Angus Wilson (no relation) – then deputy superintendent of the British Museum's Reading Room – and slept rough (in a sleeping bag) on Hampstead Heath to save money.[9]

On Christmas Day, 1954, alone in his room, he sat down on his bed and began to write in his journal. He described his feelings as follows:

It struck me that I was in the position of so many of my favourite characters in fiction: Dostoyevsky's Raskolnikov, Rilke's Malte Laurids Brigge, the young writer in Hamsun's Hunger: alone in my room, feeling totally cut off from the rest of society. It was not a position I relished . . . Yet an inner compulsion had forced me into this position of isolation. I began writing about it in my journal, trying to pin it down. And then, quite suddenly, I saw that I had the makings of a book. I turned to the back of my journal and wrote at the head of the page: 'Notes for a book The Outsider in Literature'

>>18784704
>>Fucked a male prostitute
Do thai ladyboys count?

>>18784742
Lmao, wall of seethe

>>18784966
>Flirtation was more open and friendlier. Like I said, people were easy going so if you got shot down, it wasn't really a big humiliation or anything. You would have women that would mingle with a group of friends, "date" each one of them a couple times, break up, and date another. All while the guys are getting a couple kisses maybe and being allowed to squeeze her boobs through her shirt. Like seriously though, those relationships were extremely formative for those young men who never even saw porn before that.
>tfw had that group but was the only guy who didn't get anything
cuckriders 4 lyfe bro

>>18786357
>I made this one up.
It was actually Rimbaud, wasn't it.

>>18784704
>>Fucked a prostitute
Ive fucked many prostitutes.
>>Fucked a male prostitute
Never, however I was once driving in my car in a red light district and picked up a feminine looking tranny who gave me a blowjob (no payment).
>>Traveled through a country as a backpacker/hobo
Not yet.
>>Used/Been addicted to hard drugs (alcohol counts but heroin is preferable)
Been addicted to heroin. Currently addicted to opiates and benzos but not injecting.

I don't think i'll be a writer anyway. I rarely get inspiration and when I do i'm rarely able to get it written down before it passes.

>>18786615
If so, that would only be a wild coincidence. (Also doesn't strike me as something Rimbaud would do since he was a fag and too cheap to pay a prostitute.)

>>18784723
No you're just a loser

>>18786836
Agree that it's pretty dirty retrospectively, but I'm very thankful for the experience at the same time. The reason why the average /lit/ poster is never going to make it as a writer is because he's a sheltered incel with no extraordinary memories or insights to channel into his fiction.

>>18784742
haha thanks for the cringe bro

>>18784742
This summarizes my intuitive position perfectly, what the heck?