/lit/ - Literature

Some people make money selling audio books online. If you can affect a patrician accent you can pick up old public domain works, read them aloud, and sell them for 3$ a piece on Amazon.

You don't. It's impossible.

>>18785103
Unless you are a master social climber and you have 0 issues writing something that's cobbled up from market research statistics, you literally have better chances at making a living in the arts selling shit to wannabes, or doing services to them. You can learn to program and make writing software, or learn to repair electric typewriters or fountain pens (yes this is unironically more realistic). You have to sell something that must be consoomed at cost and the media itself is not it.

>>18785208
>Unless you are a master social climber and you have 0 issues writing something that's cobbled up from market research statistics
I could be these things. What do the market research statistics say?

>>18785215
Erotica. That's it. Nothing else sells consistently, but you can make a bit of money by constantly putting out short sex stories.

>>18785215
Check out a literary agent database and report back.

>>18785215
Female, bipoc or gay/tranny

Straight white male author is dead, unless he's a self-whipping cuckold and liberal strictly adhering to latest Twitter trends

>>18785103
i thought by being an "author" means you sell your own thing not including ghost writing but maybe does it on the side.

>>18785103
I have a book published with a small indie publisher. It got shortlisted for an award. I get my royalties every six months. It's usually about twenty or thirty dollars Australian.
I don't mean to depress you I'm just being honest

>>18785103
Why do writers lean towards smut as a source of income? I just want to write my shitty philosophy and get rich off it. Who here published their shitty philosophy and made at least one dollar? I'm honestly thinking of doing it, using a female pseudonym to flip the narrative.

>>18785238
ahuh ;-)
sad but probably trooo

>>18785270
>switching from nightmare mode to easy mode
porn addicts will buy anything, they have literally no standards and there's a shitton of them
porn is basically free money it whatever shape or form you sell it
on the other hand everything else is atrocious garbage so it's not like I can blame the coomers.

>>18785260
But now imagine you wrote 10 books and each one was exponentially better and more successful than the last and you work a day job. That’s how you get from where you are to writing for a living.

>>18785270
Erotic lit as an industry sells three times as much as the next biggest genre, mystery novels. Its a simple way to make money consistently, and its actually a possible route to earn a living in a way that "being a literary author" isn't.

>>18785260
Jeez man I'm a self published author and I make more than that. Anyways, lets say you write six books. Now you're making twenty or thirty dollars a month. If you write sixty books, you're actually making enough to quite your day job and take a part time gig at a coffee shop or something. Maybe you start a youtube channel, sell merchandise, there are lots of possibilities. I don't think anyone expects to get rich off one book. But look, between my savings and welfare I could go maybe a year without working a steady job. Lets say I write, translate, etc. full time during this period, treat it as my job, what I'd like to do is get to the point I'm at now (making almost nothing from literature) to the point where I don't have to go back and get a job at the end of this all.

you gotta give the people what they want

>>18785356
not a writer but one time I gauged how long it would take me to make a living assuming my growth and projection of growth through social media analytics, it was about 60 years

>>18785381
And yet, there are starving artists making a living after only a couple years of output.

>>18785386
I'm not a minority and I don't pander.

>>18785238
White boy can't compete with real writers.

>>18785394
>18 comments
>58 retweets
>206 hearts
What's your point? Trad publishing is just boomer prestige awards from a decrepit dinosaur industry that won't exist in 20 years. If you're driven, have an internet connection, and can think creatively you can outdo this on your own terms. Same applies to >>18785391, if you're such an artist then think outside the box a bit. The whole point of becoming an artist is so you don't have to rely on a steady corporate paycheck, not so you can get a job being a corporate whore for Penguin Random House.

>>18785414
creativity is literally a negative asset right now. you have to be in the box because people demand a specific product
if you're a new author there is no organic way to get anything done

>>18785103
>Does anybody here make their living off creative work
Pursue a PHD. Have undergrads (indirectly) and loser wagies pay for your time spent writing.

>>18785430
In exchange for having to babysit undergrads, the worst pieces of shit in the world

>>18785430
>You want to make a steady income? Psht, its simple kid. Just pay this school 80 grand and work for free for nearly a decade.
Fuck off. Serious replies only.

>>18785438
>pay to pursue a PhD
shiggy diggy

>>18785488
>just pay 60 grand and work for free for four years bro, there's a 5% chance you'll get paid minimum wage in grad school afterwards.

>>18785103
I earn a decent living as an author.
my first year after quitting my last day job I might have made $5K at best. but I knew that going in
If you want to make a living as a writer, write something decent and sell it.
self-publish an ebook and tell everyone to buy it.
print copies and sell it on street corners
talk to bookstores and do signings
or don't. send the outline to agents and ask them to read your manuscript (if they say no, it's only because it sucks. they're mad for new clients)
whether it works or not, write another book and do the same
open a patreon if you want, read your own book on youtube, record it and upload it to audible.
there's a thousand things you can do if you want to do them.
or not. you don't have to do any of things.
if the drive is there though, just start doing it. don't ask for permission or opinions from anyone.

>>18785103
You don't, fuck off and get a real job.
Not only that, but being a "professional" writer will significantly reduce the quality of your works, because it will prioritize quantity over than quality. Basically, you want to become Stephen King?

>>18785414
>18 comments
>58 retweets
>206 hearts
>STILL GETS RETWEETS FROM A BIG PUBLISHER
Well Idk what his point is, maybe that is more important to be a tranny than actually write decent books?

>>18785602
Hell yes bro! Thank you for your inspiring words, need more of that around here!

just learn copy, get a following on instagram and sell them stuff.
then start writing fiction, cuz you prob suck now

>>18785633
>ooga booga big important publisher big and important
Stop giving it space inside your head.
Start your own publishing company.
Publish the books you want.
If they don't exist, publish them.
Translate what you want.
Have you looked into what Penguin Random House looks like these days? Cat ladies and MFA trannies everywhere, supplementing their minimum wage income with daddy's money in order to afford the New York lifestyle.
Be your own man and stop giving so much headspace to what some big company does. You could get more comments, hearts, and retweets in an afternoon if you really grinded at it. That's what matters, your actual audience. Prestige is the refuge of the unpopular.

>>18785602
Great!
Please buy my shitty poetry books on amazon

https://www.amazon.com/ANSB-edmj-ebook/dp/B08BY36QKM/ref=mp_s_a_1_15?dchild=1&keywords=ANSB&qid=1628141391&s=books&sr=1-15

>>18785103
I'd pay for a lewd, playful, nabokov-like erotica starring these 2

>>18785602
Based. Thanks anon, you're an inspiration to all of us.

You can earn $100+ per "top 10 random normie click bait" articles etc

>>18785858
Are they canonical characters or just two anime girls you like?

I'll do it for $1

>>18785872
How? Wasn't aware those earned anyone money.

>>18785873
They are canonically HORNY lesbians

>>18785872
Explain how I do this. I will write 5000 tonight.

>>18785876
>>18785872
Can u tell us more anon. What websites etc.

>>18785903
Literally any halfway popular website will pay for articles you send in
There's some mothers website and they pay $200 per article on how to raise kids lol

>>18785919
Do I just write it out for them and then send it to hope they bite?

>>18785238
a lot of those female, bipoc, gay/trannies are just pen names and the real author is a white old guy, you just need to know how to sell yourself you don't actually need to be any of those things

>>18786118
>you just need to know how to sell yourself
So the sjw shit ends with the pen name? I can just call myself Ungala LeGungali and say I'm trans and I can write my own shit? Do you really think that? You might be right that it's all white people in disguise doing this shit, but they're writing what? people seem to insist that you can get published, I am sure you can, but writing what? they say "this guy is a winner, he made it", writing what? You go check and it's smut or YA shit for teenagers or SJW shit. This weird confirmation bias completely ignores what kind of shit people are doing to "make it" in whatever field.

bumpp

>>18785103
>Little guy delighting a couple of girls a foot taller than
>Dog is like “This is such turgid prose!”

Bump.
I need to make money.
Does the royal road give good money?

>>18788310
>implying he didn't know both of them afterwards (in the biblical sense)

>>18785848
Anons buy my books.

>>18787058
A ton of white people pretend to be indian just to have a chance at making it in art, since "white" art is hated so much.

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/vancouver-arts-curators-indigenous-ancestry-claims-panned-as-pretendian

>>18789728
Are there pictures of the art in these articles? I can't see them right now.
If it's the usual modernist globohomo art this just confirms what I say

>>18789728
Its funny how when this was happening fifty years ago, with indigenous and black people pretending to be white, it was because of white people being racist. Now when white people have to pretend to be black or indigenous... its also because white people racist.
Antiracist is just codeword for antiwhite.

>>18788892
The dog included.

>>18785103
Apparently book cover designers make good money. Only problem is you need to live in a global city and that costs more than you could possibly afford on a book-designer salary.
Basically all publishers are trust fund kiddies getting handouts from the state in exchange for producing the right political content.

>>18789789
Some of us are writing subversive literature still...