/lit/ - Literature

>>18828485
The bible? Oh wait Catholics don't read that...

>>18828831
I am catholic and am learning latin just to read the bible as intended by god

>>18828844
>God was wrong when he had people writing the originals in Hebrew and Greek

St. Gregory of Palamas’ 150 Chapters

>>18828844
>>18828859
What's the consensus on the Vulgata? Is it just Protestants that say it's a bad translation? Is the KJV actually valid to any other denomination? I really love the English it's written in.

>>18828859
The originals are ok separately but He willed the Vulgate as a way to join the wisdom of the Old with the passion of the New Testament in one corpus with a beginning and end.
>>18828886
The Vulgate is very beautiful, it was the staple of the West until protestantism sadly happened and was also written by a great saint. KJV is very good for English speakers, better than NIV in all fields.

>>18828886
Jerome's Vulgate is usually considered beautiful but it is a bit idiosyncratic for Latin, possibly by intent. For example I think Jerome avoids the infinitive for indirect speech/thought that classical Latin usually uses, so he does something like
>And God saw (that) it was good.
instead of
>And God saw it to be good.
which would be preferred by classical Latin writers.

The KJV is the most beautiful thing ever so I just wouldn't listen to anyone who tells you not to read it.

I had a Greek interlinear so I could read difficult passages in Greek. You can learn enough Greek to analyse the New Testament pretty easily. There are also books like Basics of Biblical Greek that are designed for anybody to be able to learn the basics. Honestly with a few days of cramming you could probably read 50-80% of NT (Koine) Greek with a good interlinear and understand the grammar and so on, since most of it is grammatically simple. A lot of third person singular present active indicatives, simple statements, with plenty of recurring vocabulary. Lots of people "learn Koine" by learning the New Testament. Although if you are super serious about learning Greek as a whole, you should technically learn Attic first, but you could go from Koine to Attic.

Hebrew is a whole other animal. Anyone have thoughts on learning biblical Hebrew the way that some Muslims learn just classical Arabic for the Quran?

Fr. Gabriel, Divine Intimacy

Daily meditations on the interior life. Truly inspired and inspiring. Highest recommendation.

>>18828485
Summa theologiae by Aquinas
Summa contra gentiles by Aquinas
Confessions by Augustine -- then the rest of his works

>>18829750
Good answer anon.

>>18828485
Books on how to acquire the long-dead art of interpreting reality as a praeternatural whole? Of recovering the synthesis between the innocence of a child and the grimdark of an aged medieval peasant? I'm unfortunately too brainwashed to escape Cartesian Dualism and my scientistic programming. I'm not sure I can possibly live out Catholicism without being some potato-sacked-schizo compassing the streets performing spiritual and corporal works of mercy whilst sputtering some taxonomy of Being which connects all the branches of science, primitive myth, shamanism--all while dodging chaos-demons while riding a very fine line adjacent to the chasm of Idolatry.

>>18828485

>>18829745
blessed

>>18828831

Why are sola scriptura fags like you so obsessed with Biblethumping? Gtfo.

>>18828844
Based
>>18828937
How effective is learning a language with a biglottic/interlinear format? I am somewhat interested in doing this?
>>18830929
Lol
I like the way you write

I fucking hate trad caths so much. After living through nu-atheism, I thought there was no way any group could be more cringe. Now this board is infested with teenagers LARPing as gods messenger. I grew up Cathiloc and still have a lot of respect for it, but trad caths do not seem to possess basic knowledge of the faith. They do not believe a book written 2000-3500 years ago should have any critical analysis whatsoever. It blows my mind that some people saw nu atheism and thought "how do I make my side look even dumber than them?"

>>18833776
If you don’t almost exclusively imhabit online spaces, these annoying tradcath spooks you’re talking about are almost non-existent. I never encounter them. You’re probably the problem to be honest with you.

Lol @ anons telling you to read KJV for traditional Catholicism. KJV is a protestant translation based on Masoretic texts which Catholics do not and have never recognized. The ONE and ONLY Catholic Bible in English &from the Latin Vulgate is the DOUAY-RHEIMS BIBLE, which the KJV was also based on. The Knox Bible was made in the 20th century as a supplement to the DOUAY-RHEIMS.

>>18828831
Curious, I wonder who canonized the bible anyway...

>>18833784
I've only ever seen them on /lit/ and I am only talking about /lit/

>>18833776
Maybe interact with so-called "trad caths" offline. Like real humans, not hyper-online larpers who don't go to mass. They exist and don't necessarily conform to your uncharitable stereotype of them.

>>18833795
Why not read my post? I grew up in catholic schooling from k-12. I have been around them for a long time. I'm clearly talking about the ones online and comparing them to nu atheism

>>18833834
I figure most Catholics are not "traditionalists"

>>18834157
They aren't. Most Cathilocs understand that they shouldn't take the Bible literally.

>>18828485

>>18828485

Roman Catechism
Catechism of St. Pius X
A Practical Commentary on Sacred Scripture by Knecht
Bible, Duoay Rheims Version

>>18834220
Traditionalism and biblical literalism are not the same thing- the latter is more characteristic of protestant fundies desu

>>18835795
There is a bit overlap between the two.

>>18835814
There is, especially among sedepede types

>>18833795
I have a friend who recently fell for the “trad cath” meme. Like 10 points on this image apply to him. I’m alright with him being religious, but he has become very cringe within the past like 6 months.

>>18835906
I have the feeling there's a whole internet environment ready to snatch this kind of guy, I noticed a specific flavor of "youtube preachers" and I decided to do away with the internet side of this entirely.
Sadly religion is also the realm of predators and I'm concerned about that.
Honestly I'm not sure if I've been memed myself and I'm just blindly following an impulse but at least I disliked these people right away so I must have retained a shred of judgment.

>>18835906
contact his priest lel

>>18828844
>the correct way to read the Bible is in the language of the people who crucified Jesus
Catholicism is a mental illness

>>18828925
>The originals are ok separately but He willed the Vulgate as a way to join the wisdom of the Old with the passion of the New Testament in one corpus with a beginning and end.
This was already done with the Septuaginta

>>18833416
2 Timothy 3:16-17
New International Version
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

I really wonder who could be behind the recent catholic bashing. WHO could be behind this? It feels so fake and inorganic. Could it be some alphabet glowies or some discord-tranny new bashing target or just some good old Schlomo pharisees?

QUI?

>>18836561
>It feels so fake and inorganic.
so does catholic posting, sweaty.

>>18836579
Catholic posting just makes sense.

< Great book by Hugo Rahner, the lesser known but more orthodox brother of Karl Rahner.

Note the endorsement from Ratzinger.

>>18835981
>the people who crucified Jesus
The pharisees?

>>18833789
There's a lot of them on twitter.

>>18828831
OK
Peter Poppoff

>>18836579
OK
Rabbi

>>18828831
cringe desu

Read the Gnostic texts

>>18835906
>misuse of "let alone"
Aaaaaaaaa

>>18828485
This book is a gem and shows the power of the traditional exorcism rite.

http://www.johnthebaptist.us/jbw_english/default.htm
From this link go to Books (on the left) > Miscellaneous > Truth About the Devil, The

>>18833776
this