/lit/ - Literature

First for Fang Yuan

>read bakker instead of this non rape crap

Why is wuxia like this?

>>18851451
It is not like that. It is not poetry of any kind, most of it is below mediocre in quality. The chinese cultivation only has a (good) name because of few select works.

>>18851451
Because the chinese are retarded.

>>18851438
whats the best site to read this stuff

>>18851555
ebookfree.me/download-ebook/reverend-insanity.html
read online or download epub/mobi

Why malazan is so boring

>>18851596
Lack of gay rape

>>18851617
there's plenty of straight rape in it though, they tried to cancel erikson for not having any gay rape despite how much straight rape there was, and there's way more hot lesbians than gay men

>>18851428
>Book Club
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22816087-seveneves

18 weds: part 1
22 sun: part 2
26 thurs: part 3

>>18851629
straight rape is boring, we bakkerchads read gay scat

>>18851888
I'm on the verge of buying this gay scat book just because of the spammers here. Maybe it's Bakker himself having turned to reverse psychology astroturfing.

>>18852074
There actually isn't any scat. At least not in the first trilogy. I haven't finished the second series.

>>18852074
The tranny never read Bakker. But you won’t be disappointed, Bakker is great.

>check the status of the handful of self-pubs I follow every couple months
>still nothing new
>one dude wrote two books and has been completely silent for a year and a half now still
I got a buddy reading Blindsight for the first time but I haven't heard from him in a while. Maybe he got mindfucked.

>>18851490
Best explantation desu

>>18852130
>But you won’t be disappointed
you won't be disappointed, there is gay dirty anal rape

>>18852200
This is false, though.

>>18852229
yeah, go ahead pick up the book

this is a bakker general, we like:
gay rape
dirty anal sex
big Inchoroi cock
black seeds

>>18852280
Didn’t ask.

Just read entire bibliography of Bakker and had a hot steamy (and soily) sex with my first tranny
We're all gonna make it Bakkerchads!

>I AM LE….. /SFFG/ TROLL!!!!! XDDDDDDD

kill yourself schizo freak

>Trolling outside of /b/

I’m doing my part to get rid of the schizo, lads. Do yours.

>Imagine being so filtered by an author

>>18852454
Done. This troll nigga sucks. Even if you don’t read Bakker he still makes an effort to ruin every thread.

>Imagine being so filtered by hardcore gay dirty anal rape

>>18852462
It’s actually remarkable to see how a Canadian can break someone’s mind like that.

>When you’ve been so utterly filtered, humiliated and shamed in front of /sffg/ that you have to resort on false flagging and multiple shit-posting techniques to cope.

LMAO

So I've read a few pages of Bakker yesterday, and the first POV character is a gay pedophile sorcerer, while the second is a gay mongol who had sex with his own father. I can see why you guys love it so much

>>18852514
Didn’t ask.

>>18852514
>things that never happened

>>18852514
Great reading comprehension abilities, retard. Another brainlet filtered.

>>18852510
I’m actually having fun discovering to what extents the deranged schizo is willing to go.

>>18852573
He actually made me buy The Darkness That Comes Before.

>>18852514
>a gay mongol who had sex with his own father
he has sex with/seduced by Anasûrimbor Moënghus

>>18852573
i’d personally rather discuss science fiction and fantasy than witness some sperg schizo’s violent mental breakdown in realtime. /x/ and /pol/ exist if i need that.

so, how ‘bout that wolfe? do i have to start with BotNS or is there another entry point? short stories or something?

>>18852599
the wizard knight duology is pretty good and will give you an idea of his style

>>18852599
I’d say start with the Fifth Head of Cerberus, it’s his shortest book and one of his best.

Why am I actually enjoying this?

>>18852681
Medieval economics with wolfu is good

>>18852514
Truly a master of the written word.

>>18852681
This does not belong here

>>18852681
Cuz you are stunted.

>>18851428
It's alright lads, big boy GRRM fans coming through

>>18852754
>>>/tv/

>>18852754
Wow look at all that "golden hair"

>For me? It's R Scott Bakker. Intelligent, Nihilistic and with a Wicked Sense of Humor

>>18852840
The more of these I see, the more interested in him I get.

>>18852900
That's a yuge problem there buddy.

>>18852705
Are light novels not books?
>>18852706
It's becoming more apparent.

>>18853001
I bought it

>>18853015
I am so sorry to hear that anon.
Maybe your (more) literate friends can organize an intervention?Take you to a strip club or something?
Something to get your mind off of gay rape in those books?

>>18851451
What book?

>>18853049

>>18853033
Cute that you care.

>>18853015
Suomi Finland Perkele

>>18852754
I picked up Fire and Blood a few months ago and it was so absolutely and unassailably based that I immediately started reread game of thrones, up to Storm of Swords now. How are these books so fucking good bros? Literally every chapter is an absolute banger with huge impact on the story and ends in a page turning cliffhanger. Absolutely incredible.
Grinds my gears how many people think he ain't writing Winds. 10 years is not that long a time to write a book as good as these books. It's not a crazy stretch of time at all, especially when you consider like three of those years were spent on Fire&Blood and the rest of them were spent being distracted by HBO executives and random offers all flashing millions of dollars before his eyes. What is crazy is that he wrote the first three books over a span of like five years. That's absolutely insane.

>>18853070
I want to read a wuxia book like they're writing in In The Mood For Love. That true authentic shit from the 60s or 70s.

>>18853098
Lack of empathy is also a yuge problem.

>>18853174
Go to bed GRRM

>>18853196
The one I posted is from the 1950s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_the_Condor_Heroes

Thoughts on Memory, Sorrow and Thorn?

>>18852514
>ESL retards are automatically filtered by Bakker
wtf I love Bakker now

>>18853465
But we just had some ESL retard buy a copy>>18853015

>>18853354
>George RR Martin claims it's one of his favorites
ok, a well-known accomplished author whose series isn't complete shit likes it
>Patrick Rothfuss cant help but mention his own book
really wish that guy would fuck off already
>Person who wrote one of the worst fantasy series of all time
...

>>18851596
Malazan is the peak of fantasy, nothing even comes close. Get better.
>>18853354
I read it in german, but its actually good. Very traditional, but very good.

>>18852514
The sorcerer's love is 100% platonic

>>18853620
>y-you just have to get through the first book and then it's awesome
>first book is longer than book of the new sun
Get fucked.

>>18853629
Achamian is bisexual

>>18853701
Gay shit is part and parcel of enclosed male only communities. When he actually got a choice he started fucking prostitutes. Look how it ended for him haha.

>>18853465
ESL fag here I understood Bakker fine that guy's just a retard

Fuck E William Brown

Finally got found to reading the Conan stories, and does any other fantasy even need to exist?
Howard covered the entire genre in the 1930s. He did it all.

>>18853831
>and does any other fantasy even need to exist?
yes, he didn't do it all it's good sword and sorcery but it doesn't provide the scale or depth some other series do.

>>18853663
anything is longer than new sun, anything of substance anyway.

>>18853620
>Malazan is the peak of fantasy, nothing even comes close. Get better
Lol

>>18853201
>yuge problem.
Your English is a Huge problem, though.

>>18853015
Based.

>>18853033
But I’ve never read the books. You’re the one obsessed with gay scat rape for some reason.

>>18853995
Neither have I, but I have already ordered the first one.

>>18853354
Can't care about the MC enough to actually read the last book. Interesting worldbuilding apart from not-Christianity though

>>18854000
Same. I want to see what the fuss is all about now.

>>18852594
And its because of such a stupid name like that, is why I won't read that trash

>>18852681
Medieval economics with wolfu is good. It also helps that the author actually research stuff for the book as well.

>>18854017
Filtered.

>>18853701
No, not really.

>>18854051
>Has a male lover
>Completely straight trust me bro

>>18854017
Before being able to properly read an author, you need to learn how to write first. Any author, not just Bakker. You should definitely work on your grammar.

>>18853701
The "bisexuality" (actually a misnomer given the setting's archaic, Greco-Roman-biblical attitudes towards sex and gender, not modern globohomo alphabet soup) of all the main male characters in Eärwa clearly reflects repressed sexuality and polymorphous perversity synonymous with the psychic urges that operate within the blind brain and the larger motifs of lust and damnation that characterize the oeuvre.

>>18854069
No, he doesn’t. Have you even read the books?

>>18854113
> he cries about "globohomo" while spewing the same shit.

>>18854117
It says he had a male lover right here >>18853701. Have you read it? What does this mean?
>The older boy fixed Achamian with his dark, always-laughing eyes--eyes that would make them lovers for a time.

>>18854123
poor tu quoque rebuttal kek

>>18854109
I wouldn’t engage with the schizo. He’s clearly still seething about being filtered. And I’m an ESL myself. I do not understand how someone can be filtered by Bakker desu.

>>18854128
The quote is from The Warrior Prophet chapter 12 by the way.

>>18854128
Yes, you were definitely filtered by the prose. The other anons weren’t joking. I thought this “filtered” thing was a meme, but you are something else.

>>18854162
Tell me specifically what it means when it says that Achamian and the other boy were lovers.

>>18854128
Holy shit. Imagine being this fucking retarded.

I’m so fucking glad that we have low IQ retards like you here to make fun of.

LMAO

>>18854180
>>18854172

>>18854180
It’s fucking unreal. Especially since Bakker isn’t even anything spectacular outside of fantasy. These people are wired to read Harry fucking Potter and think it’s a Masterpiece.

>>18854128
El Filtrado.

>>18854297
>>18854172

>>18854300
Perdona, no hablo mexico.

>>18854305
>>18854300

>>18854109
>Telling me to work on grammar
>On a essosian iron working forum

>>18854315
I accept your defeat.

Bakker is decent but you bakkerfaqgs are fucking cancer Ii hope you faggots all die. For fucks sake stop shitting the fucking thread already.

Mich! Mich! Mich!

>>18854323
That's so nice for you

>>18853620
Seconded, nothing will ever touch Malazan

>>18853354
Are there any gays/trannys/feminists/sjws/blacks/progressive ideology ?

>>18854383
I certainly won’t touch that shit.

Is Sanderson GRI?

>>18851451
Chinese are retarded and suffer from same ills the rest of the world, where the popular stuff is usually just bad because it has had to cater to retards to become popular in the first place
The amateur writer sites also suffer from qidian being total cunts, if you become popular qidian effectively owns the IP and you still have incentive to keep writing for the peanuts they throw at you. There are some stories from qidian that are genuinely good, even after translation process, like release that witch but they just turn to turd pile after couple hundred chapters because it's clear the writer lost interest by that point and keeps going for qidian yenpennies

While we're on the topic of amateur writers, anyone here read spellmonger and liked it? I haven't read the last book, but I feel like the books strayed way too much from what they were and the writer just keeps beating dead horse, even if the story itself is somewhat entertaining. Though the whole 'twist' about humans is retarded in the setting

>>18853620
I quite dislike malazan because each book has new set of people that you should start care about
Also moonspawn looks like that? Shouldn't it be build by and for dinosaurs with blades for their hands

>>18854511
>anyone here read spellmonger
The series shit the bed after the first book.
I dropped it when he dedicated an entire book to his apprentices learning to be knights.

Could have been a great series, but the author didn't continue how he began.

>>18854524
>Shouldn't it be build by and for dinosaurs with blades for their hands
Kek

>>18854524
Of the K'Chain Che'Malle only the Kell Hunters had the blades. They were the warrior caste. Other kinds of K'Chain wouldn't have had the blades.

>>18853620
Malazan rocks. The only reason I'm not reading it now is because I'm reading The Darkness That Comes Before with my buddy.

>>18854605
There are very few valid reasons to read the same book twice. And Enjoyment shouldn’t be one of them.

>>18854384
Just a whiny MC and a fuckton of superfluous pages
>>18854246
Come on guys, you're just pretending to have some mindblowing interpretation, I used to do that all the time at uni

>>18854631
I'm on my first read through. Pumped through books 1-7 of Malazan after starting in May. Taking a break to read Bakker.

>>18853354
Amazing, overall my favourite Fantasy series.
Due to being so old it is ultra generic and traditional. Classical heroes's journey, rags to riches and all that. Conflict mostly containable in good vs evil.
It comes with one flaw, the book is glacial. The pace is so slow that there are philosophers that are easier to read.
However apart from that the execution is perfect, and the pacing gives it some extra weight.
Pretty huge in Germany. Williams said about this series that he wants to write the kind of stories you tell children, written for adults. It gives it a certain Grimm's Märchen feel, which is in high demand here.

Any book which is similar to Roko's basilisk?

>>18854648
I’m almost done with Bakker myself. I’ve read Malazan until he dumped that one book prologue in the middle of the action. It wasn’t bad by any means, but not incredible either.

>>18854673
Is that pepe the frog with a katana?

I started writing a fantasy novel. I’ve sent the prologue to some people who volunteered to beta read. They loved the prologue and were keen to see more of the book. No, I’m not posting any of the book here or in /wg/. Yes, I am a Bakkerchad. Yes, I have no hope for TNG series so I make my own novel about existentialism. Yes, I’m ESL and I have to work on my grammar and comma use but that is okay because the prose was good.

>>18854768
Didn’t ask.

>>18854775
Didn’t sneed

>>18854775
This.

So malanzan isn't shit? I decided to not read it base don anons here telling me it was garbage.

>>18854855
It probably is very interesting if your IQ is below 120.

>>18853015
I was about to buy it but now I cancelled my order to even things out.

>>18854858
I don't consider myself overly smart, but I do need good writing and an interesting story to enjoy a book. The wheel of time, for example, is garbage in it's story and pacing so I just couldn't get into it no matter how much it's praised.

>>18854878
Pelle. Paras fantasia kirjasarja vähään aikaan.

>>18854858
>below 120
Midwit...

>>18854878
Not my problem.

>>18854768
Absolutely based, anon. If I provide an email can you please send me what you wish? Also a Bakkerchad, also have lost all hope for TNG, and also working on my own gnostic/Nietzschean fantasy novel.

Hello my name is Prescott D. Dakker, you guys heard of the fantastic fantasy book series called Prince of Nothing? It's the mix of epic adventures, islamic themes and philosophy of mind like nothing before!

>>18854889
Yhdys sana

>>18854955
Didn’t ask.

>>18854919
Sure. Truth shines!

Can I get some truly weird fantasy recs?
I'm tired of notRomes, notEuropes, notBibles etc
I want to visit a truly fucking strange, alien world, something like BOTN

>>18854911
Not mine either.

>>18854955
>It's the mix of epic adventures, islamic themes and philosophy of mind like nothing before!
That’s what they all say. And it turns out that they’re nothing more that cookie-cutter fantasies.

Those are hard to come by though? Any more information on what you want?

>>18855177
It is, thought.

>>18852594
>Anasûrimbor Moënghus
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Cringe.

>>18854511
Yes, I think the large battles in the beginning and all the generals were op, after that it felt like mc just started to disregard all previous story, all male characters, actual fantasy and adventure and the whole premise of spellmonger and started following females instead, the whole plot development regressed to females and became very progressive, female centric and sjw, in the last book I read at the very end when he said 'I am going on this big adventure' and then the last line was his useless sjw roastie of wife saying ...'And I am going with you', I felt at that point that I was patient and it is time to drop the series because it will only get much worse and any further reading will completely ruin it.

>>18851451
The other condor translators are better than the first book one

>>18855546
Link to it?

What the fuck happened to this general?

>>18855616
What do you mean link? I'm talking about the next book published in the same publication of the series

>>18855622
>What the fuck happened to this general?
Several posters who don't read books are trying to make it annoying to read so the people who do read are just not opening the general and are reading instead.
Same story that goes for all of /lit/

>>18855622
Some low IQ schizo had a massive meltdown over R. Scott Bakker.

Does Bakker's book really have gay shit?

>>18855707
Does it trouble you?

>imagine being triggered by GRI in the current year

>>18855622
bakkertranny was arguing with someone and went complete insane, now all of the generals revolve some faggy bullshit

>>18855753
Yes. I avoid garbage like that

>>18855784
I do remember when GRI was /sffg/‘s official seal of approval. Woketards, trumplets, söys, poltards and incels ruined this general forever.

>>18855807
There is nothing wrong with being gay.

>>18855679
don't pretend you bakkerfags weren't as responsible if not more for this shit with your incessant shitposting. If you niggers stopped for a fucking second and didn't reply to him he would be gone in a couple of hours, But you insist on giving him attention and shitposting about bakker constantly. Feck you.

>>18855816
okay faggot

>>18855825
You look upset.

>>18855817
Feck you too.

>>18855817
Didn’t ask.

I'm sick and tired of cugel, now I get what the other anon said a few threads back. He is an absolutely unredeemable cowardly asshole who is also a narcist with delusions of grand intelligence while being ratter stupid.
The world is still very interesting, vance's prose delightfully and the other characters fun, but cugel just ruins it.
I didn't find him this grating in the first of his books, but having to read about him over and over gain just sickens me.

what did he mean by this

>>18855839
I accept your defeat.

This is what surrender looks like.

>>18855273
Not really no.

>>18855932
Didn’t ask.

>>18855863
That's your mother talking. When you get older you'll come to revere Kugel as a wild animal. Like honey badger or coyote.

>>18855956
I don't care.

>>18855963
Cared enough to reply, tranny.

>>18855969
I accept your defeat.

>>18854673
Anything with a doomsday prophecy. Try the Bible.

>>18855959
Ah the good old, "if you have moral and ethics you simply haven't lived long enough, or experienced enough".

Just finished Necromancy in Natt by CA Smith; great story, beautifully written for a pulp tale, also surprisingly touching and didn't end at all like I expected.

>>18855959
AMAZIN

>>18855998
When you recognize substantial flaws in yourself that will never be fixed and learn to forgive crazy people.

>>18856078
based

>>18856078
>Just finished Necromancy in Natt by CA Smith
Was about to read this. Good to know it’s great.

>>18851451
Still better than modern leftist books.

>Fantasy world is actually earth all along.
Any novels like this? I know wheel of time has something like that but subtle but anymore?

>>18856535
lord of the rings

>the year is 2160
>Now that the dust has settled. Scott Bakker is now universally recognized as the most brilliant fantasy writer of the last two centuries and a capable writer of science fiction
>his books have still not been reprinted, the original trilogy now costs over $2000 to acquire, while the great ordeal costs over 5000.
>The first two books of TNG have been released but the supposed final book (working title: Return of the Dunyain) is still unreleased.
>Mr. Bakker's arthritis has advanced to the point where if he completes a single manuscript page it has been a successful, if terribly painful day.

>>18856548
Anymore?

>>18856535
City of Illusions

>>18856588
Should I read the rest of the Hainish Cycle?

hey do any of y’all want to submit to my sf zine. i need writing/poetry
anywhere from 20-200 ish words, depending. this issue is about space specifically a particular moon

>>18856662
No

>>18856662
Anon, advertising is against the rules.

>>18856737
Sorry i didn’t know. i’m not making any money off of it idk if it counts as ad. u can’t collab on here? damn

>>18856703
lol

>>18856662
I only submit to God.

>>18856833
God isn’t real.

>>18856659
The first two are less good, and they're only loosely associated. Plot synopsis until now is: whitey makes space empire, empire makes colony on planet of brown catboy tribes, colony loses contact with empire, whitey becomes able to breed with brown catboys because it's le Guin's fetish, smash cut to a few hundred years later, brown catboy wakes up on a human planet without knowing how he got there, and City of Illusions starts.

>>18856833
"Man would sooner weep before God than his brother. He cowers before the rod that never falls to better convict his brother of pride. To better beat him into submission."

>>18856919
Sounds surreal.

>>18856535
>Dragon Ball was earth all along
What the fuck?

>>18856923
>LOOOOOOOOOOOOKKK!!

>>18856995
Took me by surprise as well considering there was a map about Dragon Ball and it wasn’t anything like earth.

The Map of Dragon Ball's earth.

>>18857063
Is that the entire world or just one continent?

>>18857076
I assume the whole world. This map has existed for a while now that Its canon with Dragon Ball: Kakarot.

>>18857081
God, it has something a hate. The world being too small. Why can’t writers and authors have a sense of scale for fuck sakes? It’s the same shit with A song of Ice and Fire, Westeros is apparently the size of South America. Which makes traveling by land impractical.

>>18852591
psssh, more like the darkness that cooms before amirite?

>>18857093
You forgot that Essos is even Bigger than Westeros. Then you got Sothoryos, which is basically fantasy Africa and "land without end". And Finally you got Ulthos which is completely unexplored.

>>18857063
russia asia and europe are all there, north america is smaller and south america is differently shaped

>>18857108
You forgot that in one of the side stories that explores the world of Ice and Fire, one noble woman became an explorer and found three new islands with even more fantasy creatures. Before somehow making her way to the Jade sea on the other side of the world. And that’s not mentioning the IronBorn and their insistence that there’s more land beyond the Sunset Sea.

>>18855173
perdido street station is nominally weird, but still follows the same story conventions

vance's dying earth?

>>18857113
How?

>>18857108
Here's a second map on Westeros with the Land of Always Winter update.

>>18857145
Oh god, is that meme map going to turn out true after all?

>>18854919
>>18854768
Imagine one fantasy author having such a similar impacts on different individuals. Sweet Sejenus! I hope the books turn out to be interesting.

We world maps now?

>>18853174
God only knows. He's just the greatest fantasy author of all time and ASOIAF will go down in history as a benchmark moment besides LoTR.

And he did it all without sacrificing authentic medieval kino on the altar of either wokeness or dummed down idiocy.
Big George will bring it home with Winds of Winter I know it.

>>18857209
No

>>18857209
Are they islands or continents?

>>18857259
Yes

>>18857209
God, I hate these type of maps. Island nations pisses me off to no end.

>>18851438
Gu Daoist chad... I kneel...

>>18857270
Why?

>>18857279
Because they're stupid as fuck.

>>18857287
Personally, I think they're intelligent as heck.

>>18857287
I mean, the British Empire was the largest in the world and they started off with an island

>>18857291
The United Kingdom is a large island, compare that to the Iron Born who are small, yet somehow, managed to take the Riverlands.

>>18857292
>Sea of Dull Fire
>Great Red Fire Pit
>Vale of Red Fire
>Giant's Kilns
>The Pit of Red Smoke
I think we get it Billy

>>18857300
That doesn't explain why you think Malazan's island nations are done bad.

>>18857308
Look at those tiny fucking things
These islands are too small to sustain large populations, yet we're expected to believe these immortal beings waged war on them for millions of years? LMAO

>>18857311
Screw off. I don't see the point in arguing with a FUCKING FAGGOT who can't engage in discourse without restoring to curses and millenial (aka mentally ill) acronyms.

>>18857313
Not an argument.

>>18857259
Continents. I'm pretty sure Malazan's world is larger than Earth by a good bit too.

It's map posting time. I always liked WoT's. No world map, just the western part of this nameless continent affectionately dubbed Randland.

Tad Williams' Osten Ard. A lovely looking map, if terribly uninspired.

Midkemia, Raymond E Feist's world for his Riftwar Saga and many other stories in the same setting. I believe he has at least one novel set on every part of this map except the southern most reaches of Great Kesh.

All they had to do was walk around...

>>18855863
It probably worked better when you'd likely get the stories delivered via serialization in a magazine, ends up not overstaying it's welcome.

Similarly I've had the Flashman series recommended to me several times because I like the Ciaphas Cain books and just can't get into it because the protagonist is just a reprehensible thug and coward. They're good for showing the colonialist mindset though.

*mogs western trash with sheer creativity and fun*
BUT M-MUH REALISTIC MAPS OF YUROP

>>18857423
Looks like someone dropped a cloth in some water and just copied the pattern onto paper

>>18857423
This is the state of:
>LitRPGs
>Manga
>Anime
>Xianxia
>Cultivation
>Isekai

Literally uninspiring maps. The worlds are never cohesive and lack inner logic.

>>18857436
>The worlds are never cohesive and lack inner logic.
Neither do some fantasy series, so what's your point?

>>18857438
That whatever you like is shit and should be posted in /a/ instead.
sneed

>>18857436
Is it cohesive for fantasy worlds that house 100 different sentient races and apocalypse causing gigadragons to have the geographic features of medieval society and remain in technological statis for thousands of years? Cause thats 99% of western fantasy worldbuilding

>>18857423
But there is no map of the One Piece world. One of the main characters is trying to make one but we don't have it.

>>18857447
I’ll just disregard your straw man as it is just a combination of different series and a huge exaggeration. If you don’t think anyone who appreciates this map >>18857423
is a retard then I have bad news for you.

>>18857423
>>18857488
So a fanmap is the best you could come up with?

>>18857492
I did not post the image. The maps are irrelevant. Every genre I listed in >>18857436
is pure garbage and not even really literature.

>>18857502
Get with the times old man.

>>18855863
Other anon here, I dropped Vance for now and picked up Malazan, very happy with the decision so far. Idk what is going on, but I like it.
Still on the fence about Lyonesse, but now I got enough books before me to stall the decision anyway.
>>18855959
As if it isn't primarily 16 years old who are into the "WOWZAS NO MORALS" type characters.
A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit.

>>18857511
>Idk what is going on, but I like it.
That's the right attitude. You just gotta roll with it and trust it'll make sense the more information you get.

>>18857506
I’m not going to consume shit just because few white bois deal with their personal issues with overconsumption of Japanese pop culture.

>>18857530
>Implying modern fantasy and scifi aren’t even more shit.

>>18857537
Most of it is. Whatever is listed in >>18857436
is 100% shit. There are some readable stuff in Modern fantasy but the best stuff has already been written.

>>18857543
I'll rather read and watch LitRPGs Manga Anime Xianxia Cultivation Isekai than modern fantasy and scifi

>>18857547
I’ll rather support self-publish authors than trad publish ones.

>>18857571
Same, don't know why /sffg/ hates independent writers and authors.

>>18857576
Don’t know, The only reason Incan think of is snobbish behavior.

>>18857576
With self publishing you're reading the slush pile.

>>18857599
Same with trad publishing.

>>18857599
Have you seen what’s being published by publishing companies?

>>18857610
Yes, I read books by Baen.

>>18857610
Why did they go woke?

>>18857619
Modern social trends are the hot new things now. Even though the books are selling abysmally.

>>18857622
>Even though the books are selling abysmally.
The companies don't even shill for the books anymore. I'm pretty sure a few writers have said it.

>>18857447
Fucking finally someone said it. God damn, why is it hard for people to admit this?

>>18857447
It can be tho, if you believe the renaissance or the industrial revolution to be a great filter that humanity aced effortlessly through luck and some genius inventors.
It is not that much of an unreasonable stance to take, takes little suspense of disbelieve to buy into the eternal middle ages.

>>18857656
>It can be tho
No, it cannot.

>>18857660
very deep thoughts anon

Just finished my second book for the month. I'm on a roll.

>>18857669
>Advance through the stone age
>Advance through the bronze age
>Be stuck in a eternal middle ages for no reason
Sure, anon.

>>18857682
It’s even more stupider when there is a renaissance in another kingdom. Braavos is one example.

>>18857687
Eternal middle ages is just a stupid concept from the get go since its never properly explained.

It's actually legit. For example Eastern Europe was pretty medieval in 1600s.

>>18857705
>>18857687

>>18857705
And there's reasons why they were medieval.

>>18857709
The Balkans and Eastern Europe are Real Life Examples on why Eternal Middle Ages is terrible when other kingdoms advance.

>>18857687
You know africans would still be figuring out the wheel without the colonization, right?

>>18857711
The Sub-Saharans knew about the wheel.

>>18857725
What did they do with it?

>>18857727
>Technology of wheeled transport was quite widely known, though put to only very limited use, in the pre-colonial period. The reasons why this technology, although readily available, was nevertheless not generally adopted are, however, very far from being clear.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/africa/article/abs/wheeled-transport-in-precolonial-west-africa/EA4BFAEDA97B73E8201B16D2E0D83D35

>>18852681
Honestly, couldn't stand reading this.
The translation was just so bad, you can feel that there is some kind of cleverness that the writer was trying to get across, but the translator just got confused and misunderstood it...
Just became incredibly frustrating to read.

Really makes you appreciate the skills of actually skilled translators

>>18857731
>The reasons why this technology, although readily available, was nevertheless not generally adopted are, however, very far from being clear.
Oh I think it's pretty clear lol

>>18857742
Fan translation or official translation.

>>18857743
Sure you do, anon.

>>18857748
Oh is there some other reason than the fact they're niggers?

>>18857753
Several.

>>18857753
There it is.

>>18857754
Such as?
>>18857755
Niggers are fucking stupid. News at 11.

>>18857762
>>>/pol/

>>18857744
Was actually the official version
Needed footnotes to explain what the original actually meant, instead it just turned into this confusing frustrating mess

>>18857763
>No answer
Unsurprising. Your pet monkeys must be defended no matter how much it blurs reality.

>>18857767
Go back to /pol/.

>>18857765
>Was actually the official version
Ah fuck, I had some hope for the official version

>>18857769
Lol

>>18857672
Just two?

>>18857781
Some people are slow readers.

>>18857784
Four or five should be the monthly norm.

>>18857787
>Four or five
It's three.

>>18857787
>>18857793
The average is irrelevant, if you read tiny little books you get more, if you read doorstoppers you get less.

>>18857797
I managed to read a doorstopper in the weekend.

>>18857803
Maybe if you got no sleep.

>>18857576
I imagine that if someone goes self publish route it is because they first tried trad and they didnt acceåt because the story was uninteresting, prose shit and grammar incorrect.

There is a reason trad publishing exists. Professional people are there to deny illiterate shit authors like chink webnovels and accept actually interesting books.

I would rather write my own book than read self pub

>>18857803
Well ladideda Mr. Gucci-loafers

>>18857576
Traditional publishers are gate keepers. Yes, it's elitist, but if you wade through enough self published books you start to feel some amount of gate keeping is warranted.

>>18857805
>There is a reason trad publishing exists.
Delusional. Trad publishing has shit quality control.

New thread
>>18857820

>>18857815
Please list us succesful respectable self publised authors.

>>18857823
David Chilton
Michael J. Sullivan
Amanda Hocking
Hugh Howey
sarah j. maas

>>18857831
>Maas
Please end your own life willingly

>>18857839
No, say what you want about her, but don't forget she was a self published author on fiction press.