/lit/ - Literature

>>18866868
I bet you're like 20.

>>18866868
What was the groundbreaking new idea?

>>18866923
dividing the world into the feminine and the masculine...

>>18866958
>be young toddler
>proclaim to cousin why can't boys just marry boys and girls marrry girls
>she tells her mom
>get questioned if I am a faggot
>cry no
>tfw one of the earliest memories of getting embarrassed simply because I tried too hard

>Reading philosophy.
>Realise I already know everything this person said intuitively .
>Can't tell if it's from my own inner intellect or I just was one part removed from the authors influence on someone else, who influenced me.

>>18866981
Probably just anamnesis

>>18866981
you didn't say who this story was about at the start so I cant comprehend it

>>18866981
meno

>>18866868
Means you're on the right track OP. Keep it up.

>>18866868
lol

>>18866868
KEK OP don't be stupid, and >>18867082 is right, get used to it, if you are understanding a History of Philosophy textbook, you should be able to come up with some schools as you read it. This is normal, I "anticipated" a bunch of schools too. Keep it up and quit bitching over shit.

>>18866868
get the philosophy shit out of your system. it's for young men. don't worry about coming up with novel ideas. the old people who stick with it just engage in intellectual masturbation and don't contribute anything good to the community.

I came up with Monism before I knew what it was

>wake up in the middle of the night
>suddenly have an epiphany
>reconcile thousands of years of human philosophical and spiritual canon into a single neat revelation
>go back to sleep
>wake up
>can't remember

>>18866868
That is how you build any original, storied work that you elucidate —through cogitection.

>>18866868
lol this guy hasn’t read all of philosophy before thinking about it

>>18866981
I feel you bro

>>18867491
I do this too but usually I've discovered (and then forgotten) the secret to time travel.

>>18866868
>reading philosophy
>suddenly have groundbreaking new idea
>keep reading philosophy
>im the only one to have thought of it
>start writing a philosophy book
>halfway in change my mind
Every fucking time

>>18866981
You're recollecting.

>>18866981
>>18866868
>reading philosophy
>suddenly intuit that everything i am to ever read on the matter is a deadend, someone's fiction, and misses the point / full scope of things for worship of intellectualism for its own sake
books on cultivating humility and respect for authority?

>>18866958
How old are you anon?

>reading Summa Theologica
>suddenly acquire intellectual intuition and intellectually intuit the Unmoved Mover and Holy Trinity
>experience beatific vision of God which leaves me in a stunned torpor for 3 days before finally re-descending to the world to spread the Word

>>18866958
Yeah, Weininger already knocked the ball out of the park on that one

>>18868470
>books on cultivating humility and respect for authority?
Joseph de Maistre, St Petersburg Dialogues

>>18866958
Many languages already do that with masculine and feminine words

What's the endgame of reading every philosophy, bros?

>>18868567
To come to your own conclusions.

>>18868557
I doubt he meant grammatical gender, you absolute mouthbreather.

>>18868574
But that's an effective way of dividing the world into masculine and feminine.
Without such a system, how would you define whether a chair is masculine of feminine?

>>18868567
ontological encapsulation regardless of context.

>>18868567
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>>18867888
You'll get back there

>>18866868
>> discover somebody else already came up with the idea
Why are you upset at this? If true, it's a testamdnt to your ability go synthesize new ideas in general.

>>18868093
>>halfway in change my mind
Then write a dialogue. Your old viess can be a mental sparring partner flr a character representing your new, updated thoughts.

>>18867491
this but on drugs instead of sleeping

>>18868567
know the name of who invented which cope

philosophers spend thousands of pages saying what i already knew age 8

>>18869031
This but unironically, but only maybe it depends what the idea was

Is there a good reading order/process for diving into philosophy? My OCD really prefers chronological learning, but i'm willing to break that if it makes sense to jump around from basic ideas to more complex ones.

>>18868586
haha

>>18867491
now I remember that I came up with an idea on how dream interpretations could be useful
We start from the assumption that dreams are just random meaningless data. When we let someone interpret their dreams, we can can analyze how they assign meaning to meaningless stuff. This would give us clues about how they interpret the world at large, what their assumptions about the world are, what prejudices they have etc..

>>18866981
Thats just rationalism anon

>>18866973
>>18868500
>>18868520
>>18868557
t. newfags who haven't read the greatest philosophical work of the 21st century

>>18866868
If you read history of philosophy, you will learn that even the most renown philosophers ran into that problem, for instance Descartes.
St.Augustine already came up with the concept of "I think therefore am I" centuries before and possible other philosophers did too even before him.
You remain proud though because you arrived at some conclusion independently, that means you are a decent philosopher at the very least.

>>18869236
>t I came up with an idea on how dream interpretations could be useful

>>18869070
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_important_publications_in_philosophy

>>18867491
>>18869045
Dreaming is just like drugs. I've come up with jokes inside a dream many times and thought "this is really fuckign genius", I mean literally you think you've come up with the funniest joke in the world ever. So you think consciously "I've got to write this down immediately when I wake up so I don't forget it" and when you do wake up and your counsciousness clears up, it's some retarded shit not even a 6 year old could make up.

The point is inside a dream everything feels so deep and meaningful, just like when you're high but you don't have the context of rational thoguht when you think those things. You probably didn't lose anything of value, the "revelation" was just a product of stoner logic that would've served a good laugh at best.

>>18868567
TO KILL THE FUCKERS YOU HATE. BECAUSE IDEAS ARE IMPORTANT AND THEY ARE TO BE WRITTEN IN BLOOD!

>>18869531
>St.Augustine already came up with the concept of "I think therefore am I"
That's not what Descartes is renowned for. It's just the only thing pseuds can remember about him.

>>18869579
yeah but that clownmode free of the inner critic is necessary to make good comedy.
it's not sufficient, but it is necessary.

>>18866973
If you were a toddler today and did that, they would have cut off your dick an put you on hormones.

>>18866868
Kill yourself you stupid retarded fucking piece of shit, you dumb and pretentious wojak kid thinking you can be the next Aristotle by "coming up with an idea"... Fucking retarded rubbish of the world, bot even understanding the basis of how things work....

>>18868470
Read Confucius and the taoism stuff.

>>18869737
Kys pig

>>18869745
rude!

>>18866958
Literally Taoism does that jfl

>>18868567
Every philosophy? To consider each possible view from every different viewpoint, that you simply wouldn't have the time to conceive yourself.

>>18868567
jerking each other off

>>18869070
Start with Plato The Republic.

Political philosophy is the easier path and you'll gain some general knowledge about real philosophy, so you might start there.

>>18869070
Don't start with the Republic ffs.
Start with Alcibiades I.

>>18866868
Want a hearty chuckle? Look up Wikipedia's "African philosophy" article. lol. Apparently "philosophy" = mythology now.

>>18868567
I do it because it makes me feel less lonely

>>18869236
isn't... isn't that something psychologists have been doing for decades though?

>>18869277
what would that be exactly?

>>18869732
Tell us one original philosophical idea you have, or at least one you came up with independently.

>>18870439
no anon you don't understand im a 190 iq genius.

>>18872091
>philosophy=mythology
Always has been, at least according to Plato.

>>18874126
hes talking about that meme guy on lit
cant remember his name

>>18868586
lmao

>>18866868
Yeah. If you read one philosophy book, you're basically reading them all. they tend to talk about the same thoughts, emotions, and beliefs repackaged in words that make them seem original.
But all philosophy is hacks. but you should read at least one. to carry out pointless conversations like were having right now.

>>18868586
Based

>>18869579
>occasionally have moments of intense understanding and profundity
>the experience is so overwhelming I involuntarily would stop moving or speaking mid sentence
>as it fades I'm left feeling on the brink, suddenly I'm no longer whole with the loss of this new knowledge
>feel exhausted, become moody and irritable
>later discover that it's just me having a seizure

Even though I never thought I was a prophet or some kind of genius the sheer banality of it is still upsetting.

>>18866958
it wouldnt be groundbreaking even if you were the first one to have it

>>18875677
Horia Belcea

>>18875888
there we go.

>>18875920
Man, I miss SOASposting. That book was the best thing to ever come out of this board.

>>18866868
Congratulations you've discovered one of the many reasons to not read
Reading only teaches you what you can't do
Creative people write, uncreative people read

>>18874155
>still being completely unable to understand it's not about "original philosophical ideas"
Keep walking on the path of memes, my little retarded son, you will get nowhere. Literature is not a competition.