/lit/ - Literature

>>18952917
No, proving him wrong would be only a fleeting pleasure, ultimately unsatisfactory. It's not worth it.

>the noumenon is ur will lmao

>>18952917
If I ever go bald I'll get his sick Keith Flint haircut.

>>18952917
yes he was inrefutable, but still his insight was shallow.

You can see his veins popping out from sheer intellect.

>>18952917
He was an atheist who denied Christ. Therefore, he was wrong.

>>18952934
Yes. The Will to Shitpost is the noumenon.

>>18953016
excuse me while I put my thing in itself

>>18953037
Phenomenal post, anon. I can't believe it's real.

>tfw you realise nietzsche’s whole oeuvre was just a failed rebellion against his spiritual father

>>18952934
>your will
>not the Will’s you

His metaphysics are 100% correct. But his thoughts on asceticism have no value.

The will to live isn't the foundation of life, the will to avoid suffering is, otherwise why would people commit suicide? In order to avoid suffering. Schopenhauer's philosophy is a poorer version of Buddhism.

>>18952917
Schoepenhauer is the pussy's philosopher, got BTFO by neitzche, pessimism is retarded

>>18952917
He was clearly refuted by his student Nietzsche.

>>18953194
>>18953209
who was it that had the mental breakdown?

>>18953209
Well everyone was so don't hold that against him.

>>18953194
Pessimism is the philosophy only vital chads like Schopenhauer can handle. Nietzsche literally admitted he could no longer afford to be a pessimist because he was so weak and sick, so he turned to coping and most of his work is trying to convince himself.

>>18953224
people associate it with his philosophy/life but completely ignore his syphilis, which fucks up your brain after long enough time, same shit happened to cappone

>>18953242
Pessimism is for defeatist virgins, neitzche was a chad who despite his awful life still managed to love life, the true chad way. Schopenhauers philosophy only contributed to his own misery

>>18953245
idk man I read half of Thus Spoke Zarathustra and almost killed myself

>>18953224
I often wonder if his breakdown stemmed from his “eternal recurrence” fixation. In that moment with the horse—a rather pathetic, lonesome display—he might have pictured his entire life repeating indefinitely. Given how lonely and sickly he was, a glimpse of his eternal recurrence could trigger a psychotic break.

>>18953260
Nietzsche was an incel who got cucked by his best friend and his “love of life” relied on heavy drug use, between periods of deep despair. Zarathustra, his most life affirming work, was writing when he was binging morphine.

No one who has read Nietzsche’s correspondence would have your opinion.

>>18952979
This.

>>18953194
Nietzsche was a pessimist though, a dionysian pessimist. He's just Schopenhauer, but embracing the Will and the tragedy of life rather than rejecting it.

>>18952917
He was irrefutably wrong.

>>18953288
Years of chloral hydrate abuse plus brain cancer probably didn’t help either.

>>18953307
explain

>>18953299
idk if i would agree, ive only read Beyond and Thus Spoke but he writes a lot about enjoying life and shit, sure he accepts that pain and suffering is part of life but thats because as he says, its much more fulfilling to accept all earthly things, including pain and suffering, this is part of his critique of stoics and the religious as well as schopenhauer

>>18953320
>explain

redddit moment

>>18953355
explain

>>18953341
Nietzsche uses the term Pessimism of Strength to describe his views in the Gay Science. He contrasts it with the life denying pessimism of people like Schopenhauer.

>>18953373
like, i said, i havent read that one, so i dont know about that one, but supposedly netizche did change his philosophy with time, zarathrusta and beyond are some of his last books and thats what i got ou tof them so yea